View Full Version : New Civ: Modern Norway


jorrtappen
Dec 29, 2005, 03:50 AM
This mod is close to completion apart from the AI, and UU which I hope I can reskin. It is Norway based on our last hundred years. A good way to celebrate the 100 years since we became independent.

As leader I chose Einar Gerhardsen ( creative and financial ) and the UU is the HVsoldier ( needs to be tweaked a little. )

I've sent a beta to my brother for gametesting and will realease the final version of the mod when its done.

The screenshot should be attached.

useless
Dec 29, 2005, 11:24 AM
i liek it. what will the uniqe unit be?

SuperBeaverInc.
Dec 29, 2005, 12:42 PM
He said it was the HVsoldier

jorrtappen
Dec 29, 2005, 02:10 PM
There was a question about HV and I realise that the unit deserves a better description as it is likely to be unknown to people outside Norway and scandinavia.

The HV-Soldier is a regular conscript from the army who after the obligatory 12 month service return to the civilian life. Contrary to the other conscripts who is basically enrolled into service again on the case of mobilization the HV is given all the equipment and his weapon and stores this at home. He is assigned to a unit in his homearea. These soldiers are not equiped in other ways than regular armymen.

This gives however the HV three great advantages:

1.: He can mobilize and be operational in the field within a few hours after orders are given.

2.: The unit operates on their own hometurf. They know the terrain like their own pockets.

3.:The HV-soldier are spread all over the country and is therefore always everywhere.

In real life the unit is not an attacking unit. It is intended for defensive action against an invader. To slow down and sabotage as much as possible for the enemy until NATO forces arrive. Remember that the only enemy Norway have faced since WW2 is the potential invasion from Soviet and against such a large enemy Norways stratagy was to defend until help came along.
Today with Soviet gone HV is trained more towards securing objects in case of terroristattacks or their threats.

To portrait this ingame I plan to give the unit defensive bonuses, so that it is other units more tempting to use for agressive purposes.

Hope this clear some questions.

majk-iii
Dec 29, 2005, 11:24 PM
A good way to really encourage defensive use, would be to maybe lower the owerall strength a point or two... and then giving it every defensive promotion you can find, making it a beast to attack, but not very strong on the offensive.


...somewhat like a CivIII-infantry, but a little more balanced.

VizlaN
Jan 02, 2006, 08:41 PM
Thanks.
Up until now I had just picked a random and tagged it Norway. This gives it abit more of a homie touch :)

Plauge
Jan 06, 2006, 01:25 PM
How is this mod going? As I now live in Austria, so It will be nice to play my mothercountry.

jorrtappen
Jan 09, 2006, 07:50 AM
At the moment I am waiting for my brother to finish testing the mod for bugs. So far none.

It is now playable and as you're Norwegian I'd like to offer you to help metest it if you'd like.

if so, take contact with me

Ani
Jan 10, 2006, 12:15 PM
Looks real good :)

Halmboy
Jan 10, 2006, 01:28 PM
Great I Love Norway:d

Halmboy
Jan 12, 2006, 12:28 PM
When can I download it:(?

Nedkjemp
Jan 14, 2006, 07:38 AM
@jorrtappen:First of all they have similar units in several countries, both in Europe and the United States. The U.S. National Guard is in many regards similar to the Norwegian Heimevern (HV), as is the German Landwehr. In the United Kingdom the variation is the Territorial Army, which also incorporates SF-type units like the 23. SAS Regiment. This is also true of the Norwegian HV as it has a unit called 016 (HV-Spes).

Not all HV-soldiers have completed 12 months of service in the armed forces. Before there was a unique national service which lasted 6 months for those intended to join the HV. During their training they specialized in various military skills depending on what kind of HV-unit they would join, but most specialized in ranger skills. Today, many of those who get discharged before they have completed their 12 months of service are transferred to their local HV-unit.

Even though most HV-soldiers will use traditional infantry equipment, their equipment has been upgraded in recent years - reflecting an overall change in equipment for the Norwegian armed forces. In addition the HV have quite alot of 12.7 mm sniper rifles (Barrett M82A1 "Light Fifty") and the Carl Gustav M2 84 mm Recoilless Rifle.

Halmboy
Jan 14, 2006, 05:09 PM
I wanna download it !

jorrtappen
Jan 15, 2006, 01:51 PM
Even though most HV-soldiers will use traditional infantry equipment, their equipment has been upgraded in recent years - reflecting an overall change in equipment for the Norwegian armed forces. In addition the HV have quite alot of 12.7 mm sniper rifles (Barrett M82A1 "Light Fifty") and the Carl Gustav M2 84 mm Recoilless Rifle.[/FONT][/QUOTE]

Yes. That is true in all regarrds, but there is little else that is unique about the norwegian army ellsewhere. Besides I feel thatr the comparison with the US National Guard is slightly off as they are , as far as I know, for internal use as norwegian HV is for defensive purposes in an invasion. I might be wrong.... HV is spillting into two layers st the moment. One elite and one regular.

Frostyboy
Jan 15, 2006, 03:59 PM
Real good :)

I am a HV soldier myself. This could be fun :)

Halmboy
Jan 16, 2006, 06:54 AM
jortappen: When will this mod be downloadable :P ?

Frostyboy
Jan 16, 2006, 10:29 AM
According to you Halmboy, perhaps they should make a union-civ of Sweden and Norway. I liked the medieval mod in Civ-conquest, where you could play Norway, Sweden and Denmark :D

jorrtappen
Jan 16, 2006, 11:01 AM
jortappen: When will this mod be downloadable :P ?

Well, you see. I got a little carried away in the Rome:Total Realism mod. ( Brilliant btw, highly recommended. )
So things have been going slowly for a while. Now I've got to edit the AI files (the interact Player/CPU diplomacy thing) to make Norway act reasonably similar to the real Norway and to change the skin for the unique unit. This is the first attempt at Civ4modding so I have to learn as I go along and thats makes for a lot of browsing through forums for answers.

But I am working at it at the moment and should be finished at the end of January.

Halmboy
Jan 16, 2006, 12:13 PM
According to you Halmboy, perhaps they should make a union-civ of Sweden and Norway. I liked the medieval mod in Civ-conquest, where you could play Norway, Sweden and Denmark :D

YES! THAT WOULD BE GREAT:D And the leaders could be King Oscar II or something like that:D I would love that:P So instead of Scandinavia, maybe I should demand the Norway-Sweden union as a civ :P
yeah, I loved that scenario too! I love to play as Norway:D I want that map back:( I really miss it! I want that back, with all the civ you could play as in the Civ 3 scenario! I hope that map will come back :(

OKej, so i'll have to wait some more...

Icenor
Feb 06, 2006, 05:12 PM
Hows it going? Was woundering if you could release it and if theres still any bugs we could do the rest of the beta-testing for you. Planning on starting a new huge game in Maraton speed, where I remove the US from the world map and replace it with Norway (as the vikings where the first europeans to travel to america), but I need a Norwegian civilization :)

Frostyboy
Feb 07, 2006, 03:36 AM
I can't wait unntil the vikings appear in next expansion. Then we have more stuff to use for the mod as well.

My guess for the berserk unit is this: Substitutes maceman (can't know of any macemen in scandinavia - and it's the right era): Strength 9 and ambibious promotion.

Sir John
Feb 09, 2006, 09:36 AM
This is the awsome but get it done ;) its well into february now ^^

pippo160
Feb 15, 2006, 08:53 AM
common make it downloadable now please!!....Can't wait!!!

Wei-Yan
Feb 15, 2006, 09:16 AM
common make it downloadable now please!!....Can't wait!!!
yeah ive been wating a month for this mod:aargh:

Lord Sankra
Feb 15, 2006, 09:23 AM
C'mon. I want to kick some aztec butt with my HVSoldier...

Snerk
Feb 18, 2006, 02:20 PM
Havent this mod stood undone for like ages now. I remember i wantet to download this mod for about two months ago. Whats the hold-up!?

Hahaha så det er hær alle normenn samles? Er jo en del da...
Menneh, få moddn klar da.

pippo160
Feb 26, 2006, 05:32 PM
very tired of waiting for this now.....but anyone able to make leaderhead for Jaques Chirac of France??

jorrtappen
Sep 27, 2006, 12:04 PM
This is very embarassing, and I really apologice to you all.
I've been neglecting this mod and didn't have the brains to tell you people that I was not working on it at the moment. Thus: Keeping you waiting for no reason and I am sorry.

But now that I've gotten my game back from a friend that borrowed it and is already working on finishing the mod, although I will not give any dates.

Working on implementing a few other civs as well, but their ID is a secret.

Again I'm sorry!!!!!!!

yours truely

dazman92
Oct 01, 2006, 08:06 PM
make it warlords compatible, if possible.

jorrtappen
Oct 05, 2006, 09:12 AM
Sorry 'bout Warlordz compability. I've only got vanilla Civ4, and at the moment I'm cashstrapped so I won't be being Warlordz for a while.

Wyz_sub10
Oct 05, 2006, 10:11 AM
Sorry 'bout Warlordz compability. I've only got vanilla Civ4, and at the moment I'm cashstrapped so I won't be being Warlordz for a while.

I can help you with that once you are done. I'd love to include Norway in CIV Gold once you are happy with the final product. Post in the CIV Gold Dev forum if you are interested.

Snerk
Oct 05, 2006, 12:20 PM
I can help you with that once you are done. I'd love to include Norway in CIV Gold once you are happy with the final product. Post in the CIV Gold Dev forum if you are interested.

That would be great! I'd love to see norway in Civ Gold. So yay to that!:goodjob:

jorrtappen
Oct 06, 2006, 04:59 AM
Civ Gold!! Cool! Bit I ain't got no animated leaderheads. Just stills. But the civilopedia entries are pretty long and good. UU's graphics is coming along well too.

I guess that in a weeks time I will be ready to get testers for the mod that will be Modern Norway, 3 Reich ( the nazis ) and post '47 Israel.
The graphics are all done, just a few hours with xmlcoding and debugging left. Well, atleast thats what I think at the moment.

=Sio=
Oct 11, 2006, 07:20 PM
According to this mod norway will be good at defending and having more gold at plains with two Coins on it. Well in the REAL world norway finance is standing becuse of the oil, basicly. Norway is digging up oil for million of dollars and thats a strenght worth this mod!

If possible Norway should have a bigger chance of finding oil, or producing 100% more oil from a oil rig. (getting two oil recourses from one)I dont think this will make Norway too strong compared to any other civ. Norway too got some good ships but few. I dont think Norway should have better ships, just unique.

This is my ideas. Wreck them or use them, i would love to test your mod ASAP! :goodjob:

jorrtappen
Oct 12, 2006, 02:37 PM
To --SIO--

You are right on your asessment of norway and the reason for it's financial trait. And I'd really liked to achieve the plan you outlined with more out of every oilresource on the map, but I could not find out how to do it, sadly.

About getting it ready ASAP, I will start debugging it when this busy weekend is over, and bring in some testers to check it for strange AI behaviour etc....
Once they are done I will add the improved 3D leaderheads ( currently just 2D ), fix whatever testing revealed and probably that's it.

It is taking time but that is because I've got house, wife, kids, job and then just a few hours in the evening with the computer. But I'd really liked to see it done soon as well.

Strange actually that nobody has made a naziciv yet, but I'm getting there. Just need to get Hitlers AI right and our favourite FPS cannonfodder is ripe for the slaughtering.

=Sio=
Oct 13, 2006, 04:25 PM
Just a quick reply to the naziciv thing. I think people are arfraid of making a nazi sim. I rememberd i said the word "Nazi" on holiday when i was young(er). My parents got really mad at telling me not to mention it and that it is a national word. But south they cant even mention the word mafia without regreting at the night. Therefor I dont find that very strange.

jorrtappen
Oct 19, 2006, 03:29 AM
All right. Debugging is coming along fine, although the process of getting it 1.61 compatible made it more difficult.

However, I've decided that the mod Modern Norway has crawled up and died in some dark corner. This mod, together with the two other civ's I've worked on will be resurrected in " Jorrtapp's Mod " which I will create a new thread for in this forum.