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Primus Motor
Dec 30, 2005, 11:42 AM
Hello

I have now made the first release version (0.5) of the USSR mod for Civilization IV.

However, I don't have handy webspace available, so it is yet available on Yousendit and Filefarmer (both really slow):

Download (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=1643)

This civ has new graphics, its own unique unit, some kind of Civilopedia entries and new music. The leaders are Joseph Stalin and Mikhail Gorbachev (from two different eras of the Soviet history) and the unique unit (at least for now) is a Soviet MiG fighter (better chance to intercept aircraft and withdraw, as well as a 12 range instead of 10).

I know this mod might seem modest (hopefully not trashy!) but it's still just the version. In the future I plan to add 3D leaderheads (if we ever get to do that... also I can't do that alone, might need help though ;) ) as well as improve some aspects and add new campaigns to support the mod.

I really hope you like this and feedback would be extremely neat.

Screenshot 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/garosaon/woosh/woosh3.jpg)

Primus Motor
Dec 31, 2005, 01:49 AM
Here's more screenshots:

Screenshot 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/garosaon/woosh/woosh4.jpg)
Screenshot 3 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/garosaon/woosh/woosh5.jpg)
Screenshot 4 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/garosaon/woosh/woosh6.jpg)
Screenshot 5 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/garosaon/woosh/woosh7.jpg)
Screenshot 6 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/garosaon/woosh/woosh8.jpg)

Wyz_sub10
Dec 31, 2005, 02:12 AM
This looks really cool. Good job! I love that you chose Stalin and Gorby - excellent choices as it really makes for a different game.

I would only suggest renaiming it to "Soviet Empire" to remain consistent with the other naming conventions. And be aware that air/sea unique units are kinda ineffective compare to land ones.

Seven05
Dec 31, 2005, 02:21 AM
You can always leave the Mig in as a flavor unit since you've reskinned it, just revert it back to the default values. I would definately recommend that as air UUs are not as handy as they may seem. Also, when I think of the soviets (unit wise) the first thing to come to my mind is not a MiG, perhaps a replacement for modern armor would work well. You could also do unique infantry, conviently enough the existing marine model uses a rifle that bears a striking resemblance to an AK-47 :)

Anyway, cool civ... slow download. An alternative download option is to go to loadedinc.com (see my sig) and send a PM to rush he can host it there for you.

Primus Motor
Dec 31, 2005, 02:34 AM
Thanks!

Yes, I had trouble thinking of a new unique unit, so I chose MiG for now. As for unique infantry... perhaps Spetsnaz (special forces)? You know, I originally had Spetsnaz, which was just NAVY Seal with new logo... I took it off because it was just a NAVY Seal.. any ideas how to make Spetsnaz really unique? :)

Red Threat
Dec 31, 2005, 02:57 AM
Can you post the screens? The links don't work to me.

Primus Motor
Dec 31, 2005, 03:04 AM
Here's some screenies,

Tompskij
Dec 31, 2005, 04:19 AM
No Lenin? :sad:

I agree that Spetsnaz should be the UU......good idea. :goodjob:

NeverMind
Dec 31, 2005, 04:25 AM
Nice shots!

Eventually, I'm working on the Soviet civ, too :D. As for UU, MiG Figter seems good, but my choice would be T-34 for sure. Probably, the most effective weapon of WW2.

For Lenin, you can check Rulers of Russia mod in my sig ;)

Primus Motor
Dec 31, 2005, 04:46 AM
:)

You know, I was wondering if the MiG Fighter could be a soviet-only unit yet still having Spetsnaz as the unique unit... or would that mean two unique units? I wonder if it's even possible :D

Rulers of Russia mod also looks really sweet ;)

Coberlv
Dec 31, 2005, 07:30 AM
Thanks!

Yes, I had trouble thinking of a new unique unit, so I chose MiG for now. As for unique infantry... perhaps Spetsnaz (special forces)? You know, I originally had Spetsnaz, which was just NAVY Seal with new logo... I took it off because it was just a NAVY Seal.. any ideas how to make Spetsnaz really unique? :)

1. Great Job.! Now how about a Latvian civ.? ;)
2. You could give them ak`s and the ability to ignore the city defense bonus. For god`s sake, It`s the Spetsnaz.! They don`t jsut attack the frontline.. They flank.! :D

Kissamies
Dec 31, 2005, 02:50 PM
MiG Figter seems good, but my choice would be T-34 for sure...
Agreed. T-34 replacing tank. Unlike german panzer, this should just get a solid strenght bonus, I think. Replacement for modern armor (T-80?) could be another possibility, but it comes so late in the game...

Red Door
Dec 31, 2005, 02:55 PM
T-34 would be much better choice for UU.

Primus Motor
Dec 31, 2005, 03:17 PM
You know, T-34 sounds like a good idea now, but I would need someone who can create models to make me a new tank model which looks like the T-34. I have to admit, the MiG was a temporary choice... T-34 seems to fascinate me more than the Spetsnaz now too.

Coberlv
Dec 31, 2005, 04:06 PM
If you get any trouble choosing you can just make a cold war mod or something by adding united states and putting trough the whole 20.th century weaponry. That would of course require a new tech tree but if you reaally get into it.. :D

Tunch Khan
Dec 31, 2005, 05:19 PM
Why did you pick expansive for Gorbachev? He kinda shrinked the Soviet Empire, no? ;)

Primus Motor
Jan 01, 2006, 01:10 AM
Yes Coberlv, when I get to know the basics of making proper campaigns I shall work on some :)

Tunch Khan, his intentions were to reform the USSR but he failed :P I might think of a better trait to next version though ;)

Chuey68
Jan 01, 2006, 01:51 PM
I have been working on this also. I was thinking of using Lenin or Marx as the leader and have learning communism trigger a revolutionary phase. I was thinking a GA or a short duration where your GP output would be boosted or instead of the MIG maybe having workers becoming a variation of Indian fast workers, the workers under communism could have some kind combat skills. (dictatorship of the proletariat).

Robo Magic Man
Jan 01, 2006, 06:08 PM
Looks great, but I'd really love to see Lenin as a leader. If he hadn't died, Russia would be a true communism, Stalin wouldn't have made it a totalitarian dictatorship, and there'd probably be less fear of communism in America.

Kaiserguard
Jan 02, 2006, 08:27 AM
I much agree with him, besides, Lenin's regime didnt had any form of Racism; Stalin did discriminate Jews, Chechens and Middle-Asians which is actually more like fascist than communist. And I think that Racism is part of Fascism and Radical-Capitalism and not in Communism. (It supposed to be racism free)

Sadistik
Jan 02, 2006, 08:31 AM
I much agree with him, besides, Lenin's regime didnt had any form of Racism; Stalin did discriminate Jews, Chechens and Middle-Asians which is actually more like fascist than communist. And I think that Racism is part of Fascism and Radical-Capitalism and not in Communism. (It supposed to be racism free)

Ideals are not the ideal thing to go by. (Heh)
Stalin was as fascistic and nationalistic as one can be while still being a communist. His antisemitism was legendary and he attempted to counteract Israel by moving all Soviet jews to the Chinese border -- in eastern Siberia.

Primus Motor
Jan 02, 2006, 10:01 AM
Hmm, I chose Stalin and Gorbachev mostly because of the differences Soviet Union had on Stalin's and Gorbachev's regime... sure, Lenin's and Stalin's regimes were different... but can you have 3 leaders per civ? I would add Lenin in that case. :)

Kaiserguard
Jan 02, 2006, 12:15 PM
That would absolutely be possible, you can have 10 leaders if you like!

Primus Motor
Jan 02, 2006, 12:33 PM
In that case... I need another 3D leaderhead to be made in the future ;)

Primus Motor
Jan 05, 2006, 12:26 AM
Hmm, I have added Lenin into the mod now, but haven't changed the UU yet...

It's now up, though :)

Supreme Shogun
Jan 06, 2006, 01:40 PM
Awesome. GJ!! :king:

samwag
Jan 07, 2006, 04:53 PM
great job on the mod! Hope the 3d leaderheads turn out ok

Mumin
Jan 07, 2006, 05:10 PM
I think it should be possible to re-skin Mao Zedong into looking decently like Gorby if someone is in for a try.

Undeadas
Jan 07, 2006, 07:37 PM
Looks great, but I'd really love to see Lenin as a leader. If he hadn't died, Russia would be a true communism, Stalin wouldn't have made it a totalitarian dictatorship, and there'd probably be less fear of communism in America.
Well actually Lenin was the first to build working camps (the death rate here was high), he sent all "communism enemys" there. And gues who? Anyone who disobeyed Lenin, o got any other thoughts other than his became the "enemy of comunism". Event political police was founded by the decree of Lenin. The main purpose of it was to sweep "communism enemies".
So really Stalin was the same like Lenin, just several times worse, but they both were totalitaristic dictatorships.
In USSR anyone in power was a dictatorship (yes after Stalin it was less totalitarian as person, but the same totalitarian rule existed in the hands of Communist party and everybody was afraid of secret police, every writen book, news paper, or film made was reviewed and controlled by strict Moscow's hand).

Tompskij
Jan 08, 2006, 06:54 AM
Well actually Lenin was the first to build working camps (the death rate here was high), he sent all "communism enemys" there. And gues who? Anyone who disobeyed Lenin, o got any other thoughts other than his became the "enemy of comunism". Event political police was founded by the decree of Lenin. The main purpose of it was to sweep "communism enemies".
So really Stalin was the same like Lenin, just several times worse, but they both were totalitaristic dictatorships.
In USSR anyone in power was a dictatorship (yes after Stalin it was less totalitarian as person, but the same totalitarian rule existed in the hands of Communist party and everybody was afraid of secret police, every writen book, news paper, or film made was reviewed and controlled by strict Moscow's hand).

Yeah, its truly is terrible. But you should remember that USSR was in the middle of a civil war between the reds and the whites + the worldwars. It was not a good time to try start a communist regime with all the problems in the world....

Undeadas
Jan 08, 2006, 07:10 AM
Yeah, its truly is terrible. But you should remember that USSR was in the middle of a civil war between the reds and the whites + the worldwars. It was not a good time to try start a communist regime with all the problems in the world....
Yes and no. USSR lasted for 70 years. The bad situacion was only for 5-6 years (WWII plus civilwar), but the totalitaristic dictatorship was for the whole period of time.
It's just the face of russian communism - it really can't exist with free speech and personal freedoms. When Gorbaciov with his words "publicity, free speech, don't be afraid to critisize goverment" destroyed the brachn of dictatorship - USSR instantly colapsed, because only the regimen power and secret police were keeping that country together.

AngryPants
Jan 08, 2006, 07:13 AM
Yeah, its truly is terrible. But you should remember that USSR was in the middle of a civil war between the reds and the whites + the worldwars. It was not a good time to try start a communist regime with all the problems in the world....

Its never a good time to start a communist regime. They invariably devolve into paranoid totalitarian states with horrendously broken economies. I'm restraining myself from going off on a rant, so rather than point out the many fatal flaws of communism, both in its theory and practice; I'll leave it at the following sentence. You can judge any nation or political system on 1 question: Are people trying to get in or are they trying to get out?

NeverMind
Jan 08, 2006, 02:07 PM
... instead of the MIG maybe having workers becoming a variation of Indian fast workers, the workers under communism could have some kind combat skills. (dictatorship of the proletariat).

Good idea! Mainly It's not labour camps, but real enthusiasm (spell?) of working people, that makes soviet industrial breakthrough real. Though there was no enthusiasm at all in Brezhnev's USSR-)

Tompskij
Jan 09, 2006, 08:49 AM
Yes and no. USSR lasted for 70 years. The bad situacion was only for 5-6 years (WWII plus civilwar), but the totalitaristic dictatorship was for the whole period of time.
It's just the face of russian communism - it really can't exist with free speech and personal freedoms. When Gorbaciov with his words "publicity, free speech, don't be afraid to critisize goverment" destroyed the brachn of dictatorship - USSR instantly colapsed, because only the regimen power and secret police were keeping that country together.

Yes + building up communism in a country that never had capitalism. I think thats important before try starting something. Russia was the last country in the world with feodalism.

Tompskij
Jan 09, 2006, 08:53 AM
Its never a good time to start a communist regime. They invariably devolve into paranoid totalitarian states with horrendously broken economies. I'm restraining myself from going off on a rant, so rather than point out the many fatal flaws of communism, both in its theory and practice; I'll leave it at the following sentence. You can judge any nation or political system on 1 question: Are people trying to get in or are they trying to get out?

I dont think you can judge anything by that, there will always be people that wont agree with what you're doing. Hey, I dont like how the sovjetunion was working but I think its stupid to blame the communist ideology when it really was the leading men that got extremely corrupt. If I would to like you ALL political systems would be a hell. There have never been a system without corruption, murder and un-equality.

(Btw; Sorry about my English :D )

ahigh
Jan 09, 2006, 01:28 PM
I think the Spetznez troops should take less time to bring a city out of anarchy after you take the city. Perhaps they cut that time in half.

My other suggestions would be that the spetznez can treat hill squares as roads (think afghanistan experience) or that they ignore terrain defense modifiers.

Just suggestions.

Footen
Jan 10, 2006, 11:58 AM
I dont think you can judge anything by that, there will always be people that wont agree with what you're doing. Hey, I dont like how the sovjetunion was working but I think its stupid to blame the communist ideology when it really was the leading men that got extremely corrupt. If I would to like you ALL political systems would be a hell. There have never been a system without corruption, murder and un-equality.

(Btw; Sorry about my English :D )

I find the communist ideology offensive as it has murdered and enslaved millions of people (billions). Communism is also a highly offensive religion with holy relics and icons that are equally offensive. I am disgusted by the worshipping of Lenins corpse and the constant rebellion against the communists own society only for the sake of rebellion, as the current society already is a social paradise for it´s people with no starvation, good homes, transportation, running water, clean beds and clothes for everyone. All you can ask for is never enough for a true communist.

True equality is not desirable, as that would be like playing civ4 with cheating enabled, no goals, no high-score, no desires. The only thing I can´t stand is a rich politician in a poor devastated country, like Arafat in Palestine, or Stalin, Kim Jun Il, Castro, Göran Persson or Mona Sahlin. They all live on welfare and are totally unaffected by their own political descisions, this makes it hard for them to tell right from wrong.

That is why communism will never work because it´s an extreme religious cult who can only make descisions formed in a book a hundred years ago, it´s a cult who reward friends, comrades and greed rather then wisdom, knowledge and skill. The result is a religious society based on fear from thinking outside of the book and speaking your own mind. That´s why you Tompskij can´t accept people who use the German language, beacuse you believe them all to be nazis, you can never be friends with or tolerate someone who doesn´t love the book like you do, you and your countless of communist politicians can never accept advice from someone who haven´t bowed at Lenins corpse.

That´s why true communism will always fail, because it can´t accept anyone who isn´t a comie. To me, when you praise communism, you´re nothing more then another fascist, a true nazi and equally offensive. I know you can accept that and I appreciate that you will never again remind me of communism or the oppressive murderous regime of the USSR.

I usually have no problem with studying either communism, nazism, Hitler or Stalin, their tanks, their tactics, even their ideology. But when you came around shrieking at the sight of some german language and found it offensive and demanded censoring, then I demand censoring from you. If you can´t live by and respect your own rules then you should just shut the hell up.

Primus Motor
Jan 10, 2006, 01:30 PM
Even though I'm not really fond of communism discussion in my mod thread, I must say that Finland's doing quite a good job mixing capitalism and socialism.

ahigh, that's a good suggestion... :)

ZedderZulu
Jan 12, 2006, 12:21 PM
Hey, I'm reading through this thing and it gave me the idea of doing a Spetsnaz skin for the Navy SEAL.

It's just a little WIP pic (for instance, please ignore the gun!) but incase you do decide to have a Spetsnaz UU :)

Primus Motor
Jan 12, 2006, 01:56 PM
That looks like a good skin, I certainly keep it in my mind when I get back to work with the mod :)

Captain2
Jan 13, 2006, 02:46 PM
btw how do i get it into the game? i tried extracting into the custom folder directly and it didnt work, then i tried each seperate section, didnt work either

Juliusan
Jan 30, 2006, 04:48 AM
I have a suggestion related to the USSR idea... Did anybody think of addidng Nazzi Germany in the game? Hittler could be the one and only leader and instead of UU it could have Unique Building - labour camp, which could be built only in city with judaism and could double the production rate by lessening population by one per three turns?
Yes its rude, but I think you can get the point... :)

AngryPants
Jan 30, 2006, 08:00 AM
I dont think you can judge anything by that, there will always be people that wont agree with what you're doing. Hey, I dont like how the sovjetunion was working but I think its stupid to blame the communist ideology when it really was the leading men that got extremely corrupt. If I would to like you ALL political systems would be a hell. There have never been a system without corruption, murder and un-equality.

(Btw; Sorry about my English :D )
Then you are wrong. There will always be disagreement, the point is how does the country handle it. If people think the situation is so bad when a country is at peace that they will risk their life to flee, that tells you all you need to know. Also, if that same country tries to shoot the people who try to leave, that is even worse. If you give any group of leaders absolute power and they will become absolutely corrupt. Install a "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" and you wind up with Dictators, somehow this surprises people. Also, you may not have noticed, but Communism IS the "leading men". There is a reason that we call its various forms Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Trotskyism, and Castroism.

Kypchak
Feb 07, 2006, 03:00 PM
Probably Soviets UU should be Tachanka - kind of chariot with mashine gun. Tachankas is famous units of Red Army in Civil War. It have so soviet flavor.
Why not?

Kale Borroka
Feb 07, 2006, 06:35 PM
Install a "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" and you wind up with Dictators, somehow this surprises people.

Of course it does, because the dictatorship of the proletariat has nothing to do with the form of government, it has to do with the class arrangements of a society. The US may be a federal republic, but it is also a "dictatorship of the bourgeoisie" as Marx might say. So a society in the DotP could be anything from democracy to dictatorship.

Also, the USSR was not a DotP. Lenin broke with Marx on that and believed in the neccessity of an intellectual vanguard to conduct the revolution. This meant that intellectuals were the primary actors, effectively creating a slightly altered class structure that continued to keep proletarians down while also repressing the more bourgeois elements.

mumpdog36
Feb 11, 2006, 03:06 PM
hey i had trouble trying to get this mod to play. i extracted it from the zip file to the mod file and it still doesnt show up when i load the mod. any comments to help?

Primus Motor
Feb 12, 2006, 12:33 AM
Just to make sure, have you extracted it under Mods folder (like Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Mods) and not the CustomMods folder?

mumpdog36
Feb 12, 2006, 03:54 PM
yea i extracted it to the mods folder, however it came out as a .rar file and i was wondering if that has to do with it not working because the other custom civs i downloaded are .rar files?

mumpdog36
Feb 12, 2006, 03:56 PM
yea i extracted it under the Mods Folder however it was a .rar file and i was wondering if that had anything to do with it not playing?

Primus Motor
Feb 12, 2006, 11:48 PM
You have to extract the folder (the Soviet Union folder) inside the rar file to the Mods folder to get it work.

civaddict098
Mar 19, 2006, 06:46 PM
when i think of soviets i think infantry.

How about a unit called the conscript, It can be pumped out at extreamly low costs but maybee have a little less streangth.

SteveU
Mar 20, 2006, 07:22 AM
when i think of soviets i think infantry.

How about a unit called the conscript, It can be pumped out at extreamly low costs but maybee have a little less streangth.

extremaly low cost = very expensive upgrade to mechs, more units = high supply costs, conscript is historically truly but such UU is more likely disadvantage

What about Katyusha - artillery with + 2 strength or/and free Barrage promotion?

Leif
Mar 20, 2006, 10:23 PM
While I love the discussion, we're getting off topic here.

I believe that the T-38 tank or the Partisan infantry,

vitalie
Apr 03, 2006, 03:02 AM
What about Katyusha - artillery with + 2 strength or/and free Barrage promotion?

Katyusha should also be non-capturable, since they always had a self-destruct mechanism to prevent falling into the enemy's hands. Range should also be increased relative to ordinary artillery

But personally, T-34 sounds better as a UU.

Primus Motor
Apr 03, 2006, 08:20 AM
Thank you all for your suggestions.

I wish at some point I could continue this mod, even implement 3D leaderheads (even though Stalin will be at the expansion :p), but now the mod's on hiatus :/

Until next time ;)

turquoiseninja
Apr 03, 2006, 04:01 PM
I think it would be cool (but probably not possible) to have some sort of super spy unit for the UU. Whenever I think of the USSR I think of spies.

senwiz
Apr 06, 2006, 11:47 AM
Thanks, Primus. :) I'm working on a mod myself, at this time. And this one will, definitely, be in there. ;)

griderjn
Jul 01, 2006, 08:25 AM
first of all, i am truely looking forward to this mod.
personally for the UU, i like the soviet Mi-24 helicopter http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/mi-24.htm
but the MiG (or Su), spetznas (i like that quicker no anarchy thing), and artillery (that self destruct thing is cool)are intrigueing.
maybe there should be a special unit per leader-
like lenin gets the artillery, stalin gets the MiG, and gorby gets the chopper
you know, roosevelt would get the marine, and washington could get like a skirmisher or militia man or something?
just some thoughts

and now for communism:
i hate to burst your bubbles, but in theory communism IS definitely a good thing! think about it, you do not like to, or can not cook, then you do not cook. maybe you like to work outside, and do not mind a little physical labour, you are a farmer. the catch is this: there are some people who are not good at anything (think disabled, mentally OR physically); so now you have someone who is not disabled, a capable person, who is quasi intelligent, and they are thinking, i don't want to do anything, except for maybe, oh, i don't know, like, drink vodka or something?!? and drinking vodka is not productive for the community (although watching extremely drunk people can be entertaining), so this leads to who does not need intelligence thinking- well, if ol' boy over there does not have to work, and he gets to eat the same food, wear the same cloths, sleep in the same type bed, etc., then why should i have to work all day? which in effect leads to the breakdown...
i used to think that it was man's natural aggression to be better than his fellow man that was the flaw of communism, but i was wrong, it is man's natural desire to do as little as possible for the maximum result. that is just my opinion.

and finally, several of you should realize that engrish is not the first language of quite a few people in this thread; meaning this: translation to and from english from several different languages can lead to some interesting misunderstandings... so be a little less harsh. let opinions be opinions. no one has malicious intent here, at least i hope not.

--something about gaining from philosophy, and fear of the law, and doing stuff?

turquoiseninja
Jul 01, 2006, 09:51 AM
Well said griderjn! I defianetly agree with you about the communisim thing, communism in therory is great, its just humans that always mess it up. Silly humans!

viguier
Jul 01, 2006, 06:51 PM
Sorry but this civilisation exist in the last version ? Or it's possible to play immediatly ? And I don't know why but when I want to Download this civilisation I can't.
Si vous povez répondre en Français bhein faites le SVP? Je sais je me répéte mais bon ...

icemanjsg
Jul 02, 2006, 11:10 AM
“Artillery is the god of war” - Stalin

If you are going to Make the USSR around Stalin and not Lenin

I think a great UU would be this ;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyusha

Stalin loved Artillery and was always pushing for new ways to thrash the Weirmarcht into submission!

Just thought i would throw in my two cent

Primus Motor
Jul 04, 2006, 02:57 AM
icemanjsg, that would be an excellent UU ;)

I sure have to get more time to work on this mod... seems like its host, The Civ IV Mods Community Site, is down... hopefully it will be back soon enough.

icemanjsg
Jul 04, 2006, 10:37 AM
Yeah if you have watched/studied operation Bagration for Many reasons Stalin did have the same size air force as the United States or for a matter of fact Britain. Instead he just used Artillery the likes the world had never seen to the same affect as strategic bombardment.

Every time Stalin came to city which stood in the way he lined up his artillery bombed the city to hell then the Army would mop up,

The Footage from the war of these Rocket artillery is insane! Ill try and find some.

zulu9812
Jul 22, 2006, 08:21 AM
Could someone please upload this to CFC? The download link in the first post is done, and looks like it will stay that way.

GhostOfStalin
Jul 29, 2006, 09:37 PM
WHY WONT IT DOWNLOAD *crys*

Primus Motor
Aug 03, 2006, 02:00 AM
Civ 4 Mods Community site has been down for long...

I could reupload the file though, but I'd have to take the musics off to comply with the 4 MB limit.

zulu9812
Aug 03, 2006, 02:40 AM
That's not necessary. PM the site admin, Thunderfall, and ask for a temporary FTP account to upload your file. Limit is 100 MB.

Primus Motor
Aug 04, 2006, 12:50 PM
Upload complete, hopefully it works now :)

zulu9812
Aug 05, 2006, 04:00 AM
thank you :)

Mongolia
Oct 19, 2006, 06:07 AM
I would only suggest renaiming it to "Soviet Empire" to remain consistent with the other naming conventions.

What!? The name he has given it is great! I almost never here the "Soviet Empire" term used to describe the USSR, it is also factially inaccurate, the technical name of the Soviet Union is the USSR and thats the name it should be given.

Huayna Capac357
Dec 08, 2007, 10:16 AM
Yes, well you never here people talking about the "American Empire" the "Celtic Empire" or the "Maya Empire" either.

Wyz_sub10
Dec 11, 2007, 03:04 PM
Exactly. Firaxis has tagged "empire" to all the civs as part as naming. That was the only point I was making, not whether it used in fact.

Xenomorph
Dec 17, 2007, 11:42 PM
What!? The name he has given it is great! I almost never here the "Soviet Empire" term used to describe the USSR, it is also factially inaccurate, the technical name of the Soviet Union is the USSR and thats the name it should be given.
Wouldn't the technical name be CCCP (Сою́з Сове́тских Социалисти́ческих Респу́блик)?

FriedrichEngels
Jun 22, 2010, 08:33 PM
Then you are wrong. There will always be disagreement, the point is how does the country handle it. If people think the situation is so bad when a country is at peace that they will risk their life to flee, that tells you all you need to know. Also, if that same country tries to shoot the people who try to leave, that is even worse. If you give any group of leaders absolute power and they will become absolutely corrupt. Install a "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" and you wind up with Dictators, somehow this surprises people. Also, you may not have noticed, but Communism IS the "leading men". There is a reason that we call its various forms Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Trotskyism, and Castroism.

Marx didn't lead ;) He was a poor Prussian man who died at his desk. I'm happy to say I'm a communist, although obviously I'm no Stalinist. I want nothing more than a society to pull off Communism without any Five Year Plans or anything of the sort, I want a happy communist society, sadly though in order for communism to work proper, a smaller population is needed.

Stephen24
Oct 14, 2010, 08:57 AM
I've got no experience whatsoever modding for Civilization but I have an idea of what is possible. I love the concept of a Soviet civilization but it seems like something that could be a lot more involved.

Depending on how ambitious you want to be, you could take the Soviet way of life considerably further in the game. The first concept that springs to mind is the Gulag. Considering the remarkable effect they had on Soviet production, it would be neat to see them in the game.

For example, under Communism only, you could construct a limited number of Gulags anywhere within Soviet territory as a unique ability for a worker (consumes one or more worker units), then use captured workers or captured military units during wartime (requires some gameplay changes similar to enslavement), or sacrifice Soviet population (simulates purges) to man those Gulags. As Gulags are manned for significant periods of time, they produce hammers for the Capital.

Gulags could regularly lose numbers due to starvation or overwork (perhaps regulated by sliders, the Soviet leader could push his Gulags harder for a while to meet wartime demands and so on) and require support in the form of investment. Gulags would make Communism the only realistic form of government for the Soviet civilization and would allow the economy to produce a tremendous number of hammers if managed well.

Pretty neat unique building in any case, it's not even a building in a traditional sense, it resembles an outpost or a camp with an industrial flavour. It would also make waging war an interesting concept against the Soviets considering your own forces if captured could be put to work in Gulags and then used to empowered the industrial machine and fuel the military force being fielded against you.

Well, there's my first post.

PPQ_Purple
Oct 14, 2010, 09:30 AM
Would it not be simpler to have a building that produces a bonus to :hammers: but also a lot of :yuck: representing bad sanitary conditions.

Alternately, and perhaps better. You could make a building that works like the Calabim UB from FFH2. Have it give +1 :hammers: per point of :mad: Representing forced labor of the citizens and perhaps have it give some sort of :yuck: representing bad sanitary conditions.

Cr0wz
Mar 13, 2011, 09:57 AM
Anyone know if I can get USSR in modular format? I so don't feel like converting this to my mod.

G-Max
Mar 13, 2011, 09:33 PM
What is the point of this? We already have Russia...

Cr0wz
Mar 17, 2011, 12:21 PM
What is the point of this? We already have Russia...

Communist Russia was very different to Tsarist Russia.

On a side note, I managed to convert this to my mod. Request no longer fresh.