this is a test....

Currently can vote

Urmm, CG - no. This was for Oct. :p I was checking to see how he could see the poll before voting when he's not in the usergroup.

CT, what is this all about?

I can see the poll (it shows as if I have already voted), but cannot vote.

EDIT: It works now, thanks!

yeah. Sign up and I'll accept your request. Then compare the two.

Just did, CT. Thanks! :)

People, please use this link (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=151470) and follow the instructions from Thunderfall. This should make for a smooth transition to the new system.

Here's the text of the thread:

Attention Civ4 Democracy game players!

We have created a new public joinable user group for the Civ4 Democracy Game. This user group permission feature will allow us to see a list of all active Civ4 DG players quickly and most importantly makes it possible to only allow DG players to vote in DG forum polls such as election polls.

In the future, we may use it to control access to certain forums and give DG players little icons or different user name style to indicate DG participation.

Anyone who wants to participate in the Civ4 Democracy Game needs to request to join the group. This can be done in your User CP --> Group Membership (http://forums.civfanatics.com/profile.php?do=editusergroups). The group leaders, Rik Meleet and Chieftess, will moderate the requests. Once accepted, you will be able to vote in polls in the Civ4 DG forums.

Very cool - I like it! Heck - we could get real tricky with this, and require that all citizen registrations happen prior to the start of the election polls. No gaming the system with last second registrations!

-- Ravensfire

And we should still keep the citizen registry up as well as the requirement to register. It keeps a good "2nd paper trail".

Very cool - I like it! Heck - we could get real tricky with this, and require that all citizen registrations happen prior to the start of the election polls. No gaming the system with last second registrations!

-- Ravensfire

RF,

You dog! :lol: I was thinking the exact same thing!

There's no question that this change will affect our ruleset, so we should probably get working on it immediately.

We should also have a "new" Citizen Registry which incorporates the new system. Perhaps we do away with the current, and leave the mods responsible for updating the list via a thread in the Main Forum?

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EDIT: Crossposted with CT.

And we should still keep the citizen registry up as well as the requirement to register. It keeps a good "2nd paper trail".

Keep in mind that it may cause more work for the mods to keep the "paper trail" current with the actual usergroup. Are you going to be able to delete the posts of users who don't sign up to the group properly? What about those who sign up but neglect the Registry? How many PMs are you willing to send to individuals to get it right?

That is why I suggest that you maintain the list. All in all, it would provide the least amount of confusion.

BTW, did anyone notice the name of the usergroup? ;)

Yeah, I wrote that in my reason.

Request Reason: Hey guys. :-D Is "DemoCRAZY" intentional??

This is cool. :)

For the 4th time in a row, you are all coming in (signing up) 2 by 2.... :eek:

Sweet. BTW, is there any way we can view a list of all the DG members? I know I can do it as a leader for the MTDG ones, but I guess I can't if I'm not a leader...it'd be good to see how many 'real' members we have.

not yet... ;) -- on second thought, yes I can. :cool:

This is a great idea, I wonder if it has been brought up before? :mischief:

Edit: BTW, it's a good thing we don't have any official polls currently open... :eek:

not yet... ;) -- on second thought, yes I can. :cool:

This is a great idea, I wonder if it has been brought up before? :mischief:

Edit: BTW, it's a good thing we don't have any official polls currently open... :eek:

Yes it has. I think I asked TF once about 2-3 years ago. That might've been before membergroups could be made on this forum..

There's no question that this change will affect our ruleset, so we should probably get working on it immediately.


Actually, maybe it won't need to affect the ruleset at all. If the user group only affects voting in polls, then it's just a matter of informing folks that they must register to fully participate.

Actually, maybe it won't need to affect the ruleset at all. If the user group only affects voting in polls, then it's just a matter of informing folks that they must register to fully participate.

Either way. But whether by ruleset or mod activation, we should not allow new registrants during the three days of the election cycle. Altering the ruleset would leave things etched in stone, so there will be no confusion about the issue.

Of course there are those who will disagree with this, so I feel a discussion is necessary at some point in the near future.

Just signed up, cant vote yet.

I was so confused until i say this poll. It kept saying i couldn't vote and so i kept refreshing!:lol: :lol:

Actually, maybe it won't need to affect the ruleset at all. If the user group only affects voting in polls, then it's just a matter of informing folks that they must register to fully participate.

Gotta agree with DZ on this one - voting is rather fundamental to what we do. It's an amendment to the Election section of the CoL - All citizen part of the Civ4 Democracy Group when the election polls are posted may vote. This makes the determining easy. If you've been accepted at that point in time - good. If you applied, but weren't accepted, sorry.

-- Ravensfire

I like that idea DZ.

I can't vote yet (as I haven't been accepted), so everything's working well. Although it does feel weird being the one waiting on approval, and not the other way around! :lol:

I can vote here.

But why do I get a "poll is closed" message in the subforum and a "you can't vote here" in the main demo forum?

Sorry but i just had to vote 'no'

Sorry but i just had to vote 'no'

At least, you can vote. :lol:

I'm now a member and can now vote.

I can vote here.

But why do I get a "poll is closed" message in the subforum and a "you can't vote here" in the main demo forum?
Well, the election polls are closed, so no one can vote in them.

i can vote!
how come we dont get the little banners that say the group name on them?

The mods probably reckon there's too many people.

Anyways, I can vote.

I can vote here.

But why do I get a "poll is closed" message in the subforum and a "you can't vote here" in the main demo forum?

In the main forum, those polls were election polls. The polls there are over.

Me can vote now :drool:

Abstain, there is no other option! ;)

How many people in the citizen registry have actually signed up for the group thing, percentage wise?

In the main forum, those polls were election polls. The polls there are over.

But shouldn't it show a "this poll is closed" message, instead of a "you may not vote here"? Why is there a difference?

I want banners!!!!

Some body ask Thunderfall, the god of Admins.

I just clicked and CAN vote now!!! I don't know if I've been accepted already??? If so, you guys are FAST!!! :)

edit: I checked and I am accepted! You guys ARE Fast!!! :D