Ukrainian Mod v.0.3 for civilization 4 (for patch v1.52).

Ukrainian Mod v.0.3 (01/09/2006)
Features:
- Fixed teamcolor: make more largest symbol
- Remove old leaders
- Added four new leaders:
Svyatoslav (Aggressive, Expansiv) Favorite Civic: Hereditary Rule
Bohdan Khmelnitsky (Spiritual, Organized) Favorite Civic: Police State
Mykhailo Hrushevsky (Philosophical, Creative) Favorite Civic: Representation
Yulia Tymoshenko (Financial, Industrious) Favorite Civic: Universal Suffrage
- Ukrainian starting techs change to Hunting and Mysticism
- Diplo Music for all four leaders: Intro "Ihaly Kozaki"


Ukrainian Mod v.0.2 (01/05/2006)
Features:
- Make mod as individual mod
- Ukraine flag replaced
- Fixed teamcolor
- Fixed color Pomarancha
- Fixed Civ Adjective


Ukrainian Mod v.01b (01/03/2006)
Features:
- Ukraine Civilization added as 19th civilization
- Ukraine cities added
- Two new leaders, Khmelnitsky (Aggresive, Spiritual) and Hrushevsky (Philosophical, Spiritual) are available with their own traits
- Ukraine UU Cossack is introduced, they use Calavry graphics
- Ukraine flag is added
- Ukraine flag as a button added
- Civilopedia entries for Ukraine and Cossack added
- Civilopedia entries for Khmelnitsky and Hrushevsky added
- A new color Pomarancha is added, however needs further adjustment and tweaking
- Ukrainian starting techs are added as Hunting and Mining
- This mod is mainly for English version as Civilopedia entries for other four languages have been cut to save uploading space

Download: 1.8M
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/ukrainian_mod_v0.3.zip
http://rapidshare.de/files/10733442/UkrainianMODv.0.3.rar.html

no link to download.

change
hxxp:// -> http://

:cool: Not needed now.:cool:

any screen shots?

Why not use this sites upload service, I just get bombarded by adds from this rapidshare (what an oxymoronic name) thing and cant even find the darn file anyware on their site. Zip the file yourself and upload it like everyone else

Screenshot 1 (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/ScreenshotUkrMod2.jpg)

v.nice ... maybe a better uu with time?

You should call UU zaporozhsky cossak

deadcat
yes, i think about this, but this long name :(
Cossack better but busy Russian civ.
maybe Getman? :)
or new UU Ukrainian "Kolchuha" anti-stealth-aircraft radar? :)

What about that Dmitru Vyshenevetski(did I spell it right?) as leader?

You should call UU zaporozhsky cossak

Agree. Or, maybe, "Zaporozhets"? Though, it sounds like a legendary soviet car ;)

Excellent. I'm of Ukrainian descent - glad to see this made.

Anima Croatorum
in new mod version only leaders:
Timoshenko (Financial, Industrious) :)
Svyatoslav (Aggressive, Expansiv)
Khmelnitsky (Spiritual, Organized)
Hrushevsky (Philosophical, Creative)

NeverMind
maybe, "Zaporozhets", most likely :)
or "Strilets"?

update version to 0.3

.. You maked Timoshenko and no maked Great Volodymyr...
Now Timoshenko no present in Ukrainian history as Great Peaple...
But mod is very Good!
...but some moments...
Ukrainian in REAL HISTORY fast discovered agricultural...
and Tripilya-Cultured ... fastest writings...
...unical unit from Great Volodymyr's time ... "vityaz" as swordsman ....

Wy we don't put picture of Kravchuk or other on oure money?
History - only History make peaple as GREAT PEAPLE...
I nice Tymoshenko too, but ... this is politic's oure times.
What make hisrory about Tymoshenko....? ... More year ago ...

Aqueelone
agricultural? maybe.

Russia, Ukraine and Belorussia has common history a long time and this history
have many common kings, monarchs and leaders.

Such leaders as the Great Volodymyr and others, possibly,will be done in historical scenarios.

This mod was done for players to have an opportunity to play for Ukraine.

Iimho, Kravchuk and Kuchma are not capable to be include to this mod.

Tymoshenko because ... because she seems to me the best representative of modal policy against the grey society(bulk) of the rest politics ... because she women ... and "just good human" :)

are somebody working on this mod?..................................

Aqueelone
agricultural? maybe.

Russia, Ukraine and Belorussia has common history a long time and this history
have many common kings, monarchs and leaders.

Such leaders as the Great Volodymyr and others, possibly,will be done in historical scenarios.

This mod was done for players to have an opportunity to play for Ukraine.

Iimho, Kravchuk and Kuchma are not capable to be include to this mod.

Tymoshenko because ... because she seems to me the best representative of modal policy against the grey society(bulk) of the rest politics ... because she women ... and "just good human" :)


Please DO NOT call my country "belorussia". Its modern name is BELARUS.
Thanx.

Well done!

I was about to make Ukraine by myself, I leave it now ... Just my thoughts below

My leaders were

Bogdan Khmelnitskiy - Aggressive & Spiritual
- Favors: Nationhood
Ivan Mazepa - Creative & Financial
- Favors: Representation

I decline idea to make Kiyevan Rus leaders to be Ukrainian leaders, because of ... Montezuma is not Mexican, and Ceasar is not Italian but Roman, and so on. About Hrushevsky I decided his role in our history was too time-short. Timoshenko, khm ..., to use modern leaders is not usual, it just up to you, [hazyain-barin] :)

UU was Sichoviy Cossack, it was not Cavalry but Musketman replacement . In that time Ukraine was very short in cavalry, that is why tatarians cavalry were our allies by needs. Ukrainian cossacks were foot musketmans, not mounted warriors. One drawback to be a Musketman replacement - unit become obsolete were quickly. Be repl-Rifleman is historicaly incorrect.

Thanks xvector!!!

I think Kievan Rus is a good predecessor to modern Ukraine; in medieval times countries very often lose their identity, independence and changed borders.
More important are people. And they were the same. Even if Rus nobleman were in fact polonized and thus there is no political continuum, the common people can derive their unique culture shape from this period - identity, language, even faith, which was orthodox first.

Why should we strip Ukrainians of their heritage?
I feel especially sensitive of this fact, because if Polish noblemen and kings would have accepted their cultural and ethnic difference, we could become one nation or at least federation. But they wanted to change Ukrainians in Poles, and treated them so. Rus knezh families become polish nobles, and the rest was put in serfdom...unsuccesfully, what ended up in many tragedies - but its a long story.
Ukrainians fought for their identity, and they deserve it. They didnt jump in there from the Mars, they lived there for centuries.

What? No Makhno?

http://www.nestormakhno.info/images/makhno_seul.jpg

http://www.nestormakhno.info/ (http://www.nestormakhno.info/index.htm)

Nestor Ivanovich Makhno (Philosophical, Aggressive) Favorite Civic: Emancipation

I suppose he was too anti-nationlist. He never did care for Petlura.

To Eskel:
Nobody argues about heritage of Ukraine. I just meant the rule in Civ4 for selecting civs-leades (Monty not Mexican but Aztec etc).

To Nicollo:
I think Nestor Makhno would be good barbarian leader, because of his anarchist sights, he refused goverment in any kind. With treat Anarchical OR anti-Organized: maintenance doubled + 2 happiness :)

I think Nestor Makhno would be good barbarian leader, because of his anarchist sights, he refused goverment in any kind. With treat Anarchical OR anti-Organized: maintenance doubled + 2 happiness :)

Sort of. Not all settled societies have been states. I really don't like the vanilla Civilization interpretation of anarchy. One day, I'll get around to making an AnarchismMOD and replace civic switching unrest with "Chaos" instead of "Anarchy", add unique units like CNT-Milita, Tachanka, add leaders like Makhno, Durruti, Zapata, and Kim Jwa-Jin as leaders for the Free Soviets of the Ukraine, CNT-FAI of Spain, and the Korean People's Association in Manchuria, respectively. Also add some different civics for Free Soviets/Libertarian Communism, Anarcho-Syndicalism, Social Ecology and Participatory Economics. Or maybe GarretSidzaka will get to it before I do.

While Makhno was an anarchist, and the Makhnovshchina were very influenced by anarchism; most participants in the movement identified as Makhnovshchina; with a significant minority calling themselves anarchists as well as others who were Left Social Revolutionaries or even Bolsheviks.

Perhaps Makhno would be better for a World War 1 or Russian/Soviet Revolution scenario.

The Revolutionary Insurgent Army of the Ukraine (Makhnovitsi) was accountable to the regional congresses (held 4 times in 1919) of the free soviets of peasants and toilers.

Capitol: Gulyai-Polye

Cities:
Velyka Mykhailivka
Aleksandrovsk

Unique Unit: Tachanka Machine Gun Cart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachanka): It consisted of a Maxim M1910 machinegun placed in a light horse-drawn cart or wagon and was used to provide fire support for infantry and cavalry units.

http://www.koza.kiev.ua/img/tachanka.jpg

Good Job :goodjob:
Could I use this civilization for my own modpack?

I have a similar request as PW90, I'd like to take you already fine civ and put it with my CIS mod when my computer starts working properly

What about 1.61v patch compatibility?

i may actually attempt to do this myself... but this is how i think the ukrainian civ should be.

CIVILIZATION: Ukraine; flag should be tryzub, blue symbol on yellow background or vice versa
UNIQUE UNIT: Cossack
STARTING TECHS: Agriculture, Mysticism
LEADER(S):
Khmelnitsky TRAIT1: Organized TRAIT2: Philosophical
Petlyura TRAIT1: Industrious TRAIT2: Philosophical
FAVORITE CIVIC: Emancipation

I could defend for quite some length but briefly:
unique unit: http://www.cossacks.kiev.ua/
starting techs: agriculture- duh; mysticism- except for hunting and possibly mining, nothing else really applies to the geographical region of ukraine, thus my argument is this, the mysticism tech allows for advancement down some of the roads that are relevant to ukrainian history
leaders: as mentioned in earlier posts, i too think there is/should be a distinct difference between what is/was ukraine and what was kievian-rus
Timoshenko nor Hrushevsky ever really "ruled/led/governed" ukraine
Svyatoslav although he was a ruler of the region, it was during the kievian-rus era
the traits are kind of my opinion, but i will try to defend them briefly:
Khmelnitsky was organized in that he established a lasting rapport with the scattered territorial leaders of the region; and philisophical in that along with his personal struggles he tried to fathom an independant ukraine, which is more philosophical than spiritual, especially when applied to his governing tactics
Petlyura was industrious in that it was the period of the world during his "governing" and ukraine somewhat defined its borders, and the capitol was kharkiv at some point, which can not be denied as an industrious metropolis; and philosophical in that he was actually involved in the movement for ukrainian independence

creative could be applied to khmelnitsky, possibly as it would create a unique trait combination not seen in the other "original" leaders, but definitely not petlyura...
the other traits: aggresive, expansive, financial or spiritual
just are not applicable to these to historical figures

i should not have to even think about explaining the civic of emancipation, but i will. no other civic so applies to the region and the peoples of ukraine more than emancipation! from historical beginnings and even through to today...
vassalage, serfdom, and especially nationhood come close but the benefits of vassalage and serfdom do not apply to the historical progress of ukraine, and while nationhood does more aptly relate, let's face it, ukraine has never been known for their succesful campaigns or significant military achievments, which is what the effect of that civic would allude to.

a short novel, perhaps, but i just thought i would share...

p.s. the zaporizhets, if utilized, could be the unique unit. it would be used deceptly by employing the "give this unit" command. the catch is this: it is extremely expensive to upkeep (like maybe double what everything else is), it does not have any defense or attack, and it costs to destroy the unit, but it is really inexpensive to develop and produce.