We're just here for the beer and snacks.

We like to have fun and raise havoc.

We're educated anarchy peeps.

We don't take ourselves serially unless we have to to win the game.

Idiocy is a calling, not a philosophy.

If you're not sure you belong here, you probably don't.

Our founding fathers are moi, whomp and tubs.

We're all old (but for some deranged reason, we seem to appeal to teenagers), but we do have fun. Several of us have met F2F.

We can recruit like an SEC or Colorado football team.

One is not a complete idiot until all the required parts are found and installed.

As a Major Idiot, I'd like to say idiocy spreads faster than any religion. We span the globe baby. In fact, I'd suggest you have one in your neighborhood.

Let me also say we're old school CFC (LK rules, dastardly deeds etc) so there will be no cheating to gain status and power. We're idiots, we don't know how to cheat.

Remember rule #6 of idiocy "never take yourself too seriously".....and there are no other rules.

One is not a complete idiot until all the required parts are found and installed. For me it works like the other way round. Most of the said parts are lost and forgotten, but I feel very much like a Toidi :crazyeye:

Commander Idiot B reporting :salute:

I am still missing my pregnancy. It shall be found and installed.

I guess I should sign up for this since I apparently helped find idiocy. I think that the idiocy started with AK, then just hopped to Chicago and Virginia to find suitable hosts in Whomp and myself.

We proudly wear our idiot colors (mainly because the crayons don't wash out well).


EDIT:

Members List (19) - We're global
AK (PA)
Whomp (Chi-town)
Daggie (Sweden)
B (Que beck)
Tubs (Beerginia)
Processor (Slovenija)
Iron Gold (Australia)
Smart
IamSid (Middle Earth)
Sadan01 (Australia)
Own (North Carolina)
azzaman333 (Australia)
Vander (Privateering in Idaho)
Furiey (Bedfordshire UK)
gmaharriet (Cali)
akots (Houston & Moscow)
Nomad Bryce (Pennsylvania)
robboo (M-I-crooked letter -crroked letter-I.....)
AL_DA_GREAT (Stockholm)

we have a rival "mischief maker" in the Goatskin Hut (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=153345). Can we declare war on a rival citizen group? or do we just annex his thread?

I recommend we challenge him to the ancient game of "kebaba" (tm some idiot)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=135986

In the words of the Guniess brewers... "BRILLIANT!!!"

I have challenged the Hut people to our time honored and great game....Kebaba (TM some Idiot)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3562870&postcount=4

Can I get a heck yeah?

http://civfanatics.net/uploads10/pint.gif

AK are we AI? Anarchist Idiots?
or
a party that says "who said there's no I(diot) in team"?

Wow, is now there any place without idiocy on CFC? :crazyeye:

Do I have to sign up anywhere?

Yes Processor of the idiots.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=132266&page=12

tubs is designated our leader since he wants to rule a city. we shall devote our efforts to his cause.

Can I become a member ... I brought beer and toilet paper :D

Yay! Irongold Irongold!! WoooOOOOooooT...whatever that means.

Excellent. Now Daggie has a sheep to play with. welcome great pyrotechnician to our humble partee.

In other news, apparently the Goatskin hut is a place for that guy's rants and other nonsene (tm). Sort of like Old Thrashbag from HHGG's Mostly Harmless.

Will you be ruling a wicked city ???

Please tell us more of your grand design

I for one would like pubs, pubs, pizza, pubs, jello wrestling rings, pubs, pubs, dwarf throwing arenas, pubs, pubs, public urinals and pubs ... oh and many breweries, wineries, distilleries :D

The town would preferably have no bell towers nor town cryers :rolleyes: ... lets have a quiet town, especially in the mornings :lol:

not wicked. Just a bit fun.

dwarf-tossing is definately allowed. The last time someone outlawed that fine sport, the drarves were more upset than the patrons because apparently it pays pretty well to be tossed about.

I also think that you mentioned pubs..... well what would a good idiot partee city be without pubs.

Speaking of cities, how do we rest control of a burb? I might have to PM someone who creates worlds in order to find out the gritty of the nitty.

:woohoo: :crazyeye: Idiocy is everywere! :crazyeye: :woohoo:

I should upgrade my computer ASAP to be able to play [civ4]...

I'd like to set up our gambling operation in the backroom if that's ok? You know betting on games like "kebaba" with bushels of grain and rice, sheep...you know stuff and things.

Thanks, WHomp.

Is gambling allowed here? I mean, dwarf-tossing is one thing, but if we spend all our grain and sheep just to bet on kebaba, we may go bankrupt :(

if we spend all our grain and sheep just to bet on kebaba, we may go bankruptNot if your good :D


I got a message back from Chieftess and apparently Governors (managing 3-5 cities) are appointed initially then later elected. We need to swamp a poll when those come out. I'm fine with a mayorship and those are appointed by the governors. So I might try to befriend an opponent in a governor's race and then get him to give us a city.

Pentium we will not necessarily be making the bets. We will be booking the bets for the citizens. We will call this....umm....vigerish. Here's how it works....

Joe Triumverate makes a bet that a warrior will lose 0.6 hps (we'll call this the betting line or the odds) against a lion and bets 50 bushels of corn. Stevie Hawk Dove bets 50 bushels he won't. We take both bets and the loser pays us 10% to take their action aka vigerish. One of them we pay 50 bushels and the other pays us 55 bushels. We gain 5 bushels. Capiche? :D

I've updated my first post in this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3559828&postcount=5)to reflect a members list. This could come in handy when convincing some one to appoint me a mayor.

Oh yeah we need to swamp the polls. And propose a new game of dwarf tossing: whichever player can take a warrior from the city and send him the farthest in a single turn.

Capiche? :DSure. That vigerish thingy sounds cool :)

Tubby it might be useful to show how far reaching idiocy truly is in your post. We're global baby.

Pentium is in Ljubljana, Slovenija (or Slovenia to 'murikans)
Daghie is in a little town in Sweden
Beorn is Quebec City, Canada
Irongold is Tassie, Australia
Smart...hmm...I don't know....

Ummm ... instead of betting with the sheep ... :blush: if they are pretty enough we can raise money through other ... ummm ... :mischief: entertainments ;)

I propose 1gp and all you can catch :lol:

we will have nightly fireworks at the casino :bounce:

If no real money changes hands, can we make book on the outcomes of the official polls? Maybe for votes? i.e., lose a bet, vote for Tubs. :devil:

I would like to join the Partee..

Welcome Sid. It seems the mischief maker doesn't want many friends right now. We are a social crew and thrive on mischief so you're all good here.

What ever you'd like we can help make that so. You ain't seen nothing yet....believe me.

To give you some background most of us are very proficient in civ3 and are learning, like everyone, civ4. Idiots all the same.

And what are our goals?

Tubby would like to be a governor. Our goal is to make that happen. Anyone else who would like to pursue further responsibilites will be supported with conviction by way of our bloc of votes. Our numbers will expand. Bank on it.

We will disagree, rant, fight, kick, scratch and claw at each other but when we come to an agreement we will show the power of that conviction.

My ambitions are modest (running Kebaba) and likely no more than helping the individuals accomplish whatever it is they would like to pursue.
What are your ambitions? Are you interested in a governmental position? We can help.

It would be interesting trying to run a city maybe(its unlikely though.)

So anyway I guess we vote together to get the streighnth of numbers?

As the saying goes....never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups and take no prisoners. :D

whomp, tubs and I gather to write the Idiots' Manifesto:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/idiots.JPG

p.s. Hi Sid :salute: welcome to the madness

3 days, nine members. tubs, we need a graph or chart. Are we growing faster than the other parties?

this was my attempt at a graf:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/graf.JPG

This is my effort on the graph, but actually it's two and their names are Hanna and Magdalena....Graaf :D

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/Graf3_copy.jpg

Hmmm I love Grafs

Hmmm...I dunno B.... I kinda prefer Graafs. :D

That's it, spoil my puns ...
btw I think I made it out of the mess in the OCC, workers are out working and such, but it might just be the uprisings. Oh well.

van der Graafs ... :eek: How Shocking !!

Daghdha = The Babe Generator :D

FWIW, here's (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=153643) the first opportunity to vote since most of us have been registered. It's on the difficulty level.

I voted Prince, but Settler would be fun too.

Tried voting but message said I could not :(

I thought that I had registered by posting on the citizen's list ... Have I missed a step???

You have to join the group much like you did in the MTDG. Here is the link (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=153643) <-bad link.... I guess I could have deleted it, but then fe's post wouldn't have made sense.

Thanks Tubby :wavey:

But the link takes me to the voting poll ?? :(

Crap I forgot to hit ctrl-C after highlighting. I must be getting as old as Whomp!!!

Here is the right link to the user groups (http://forums.civfanatics.com/profile.php?do=editusergroups)

Thanks Tubby :salute: ... I'm actually proud of myself :smug: worked it out myself ... so I guess I await appoval now.

There is also a discussion on Flags, Mottos, etc ... which was an interesting read while waiting for the game to start.

fe, do you have MSN yet? I realize that you have dial-up, but put it on an overnight download.

btw, I've been snooping in the other party threads to get a feel for who has the greatest chance of getting us a mayorship. It seems as though the Hawk-Dove party posted a recruitment message in the Imperialist's thread (AlphaWolf's party). Apparently they have eldars (we just have old Whomp) and 3 out of the 7 people running that party were the DL accounts with the DL accounts holding 4 out of 8 positions of authority. talking about stacking the deck!!!

Do you have room for another idiot to join the partee? I've brought Ipecac for a seriously good time... We won't need the toilet paper :D

Being an idiot as such, I have to ask that I gather I would do the following:

1. Join Team KISS here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/profile.php?do=editusergroups)
2. Register in the Citizen Registry thread.
3. Spread the word of idiocy far and wide for many more to join up...

Is this correct?

Do we need MSN? If so, that is not a problem.

Do you have room for another idiot to join the partee? I've brought Ipecac for a seriously good time... We won't need the toilet paper :D

Being an idiot as such, I have to ask that I gather I would do the following:

1. Join Team KISS here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/profile.php?do=editusergroups)
2. Register in the Citizen Registry thread.
3. Spread the word of idiocy far and wide for many more to join up...

Is this correct?

Do we need MSN? If so, that is not a problem.
1. You're welcome to join KISS, but you need to sign up here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?goto=lastpost&t=124141) first. Btw, Team KISS and the MTDG is for Civ 3 not civ4.
2. correct and join the DemoGame user group here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/profile.php?do=editusergroups)
3. No need it spreads itself ;)

MSN is not necessary, but we get on there sometimes. In Team KISS we have a thread inside there that has everyone's MSN address.



I've looked through the other party threads and the Hawk-Dove party is anemic at 6 members. The Inlightened Imperialist Party has numerous members but only a few non-DL members seem to be active.

G'day Mate :salute: ... blah about KISS, joining MIA is another option :p

@ Tubby ... no I still don't have it, but will consider if required :D

IDIOT EDIT ... what is a DL member?

Welcome Sadan!! Another dude from Oz! :beer:

As far as KISS goes we would love to recruit someone from down under since that's almost the only continent we don't have a player from(MIA has a stranglehold down under). Our team is the most active with somewhere around 20 active posters in our forum.

Most of team MIA is from Aus/NZ and Fe3333au is a team member for them. It's fun so any of the teams would be fine.

what is a DL member?Double login see this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=152528)for what was going on.

Note that the IIP (Inlightened Imper. Party) was started by Alphawolf. They aren't going to "re-organize" under another name.

Well we at MIA have half Yanks and half Oz ... none from the island of the long white cloud :shakehead:

However many share the Kiwi love of all things wooley ... Baaa enough of this, let us to the paddock boldly go :D


Oh the DL is like the dirty dozen lugnuts ... (sorry couldn't find a fine L-word) :blush: ... although that type of behaviour is totally alien as far as I am concerned ...

Change subject to things relivant :mischief:

So do we get to choose a city name?

Do we have an artist ... I'm sure we can come up with a fine design for a colourful rag to hoist up the standards of our fighting and drinking men :salute:

Apparently they in this discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=146702) need a flag, a motto and musical dirge as well ... i was thinking of something with a yodel or a bit Tibetan Throat Chorus

The city names are apparently chosen in the order people signed up. I guess that's fair since they've been here all along.

Here comes a flag :band:. Stylish as always, and groovy...

Whats up Sadan!!!!!
http://www.bitterfilms.com/idiot.jpg

Our Army of crazy idiots:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/crazy_eyes_ava.gif

CFC don't allow to use animated avartars :mad:

I signed up, as grasshoppah own of grasshopolis.

How's it going, Sid? Nice moves there :D

An idiot with a bright idea:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/yet-another-idiot-weblogger.gif

OMG, we're multiplying. :thumbsup:

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:6eOU-P6-NUq17M:http://www.blogfa.com/Photo/idiot.jpg

I have a pet Lemming :blush:

Just Voted Prince in poll ...

Will someone be able to post additional screenies here if requested ... as I cannot run cIV on my system :rolleyes:


Also another poll has been posted ... this about National Sport (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=153836) ... Kebaba is an option :D

Let us start influencing the direction of the nation :mischief:

This party seems much easier to understand than the others, can i join?

I have a pet Lemming :blush:

Lemmings are fantastic when cooking on a bbq. Of course, they have to be fresh lemmings, not frozen, or stale etc. In fact, here is a pic of one that I am cooking up tonight for a group of friends:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/lemming.jpg

:crazyeye::lol:

Sadan's IDIOTs Guide to Texas Holdem' - #1
When dealt a pair of Aces, the correct bet is to go all in and then fold.

@azza (what's with all these 3's down under?)
You are of course more than welcome. Cool avvie btw.

We have already pushed Kabala to the top in the vote for national sport. Idiots rock the vote :D

Kebaba is winning by a margin of 2 votes right now. I also have a ghost write-in ballot of dwarf tossing

Going to update the membership post.

I voted for kebaba. Thanks for the support everyone. If you haven't signed up for this group do it so you can vote.
Tubby has the link here.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3570180&postcount=47

Welcome Azza! Seems there's plenty of idiocy down under too. :wavey:

Kebaba!!! (10 charecters!)

kebaba is now winning 10 votes to 2 of the next closest. I voted for kebaba too. This is something involving beer and pyrotechnics, rights? :crazyeye: :lol:

I feel so ashamed to have mentioned Dwarf Tossing :cry:

I wonder what would have happened if I'd mentioned my second favourite pub game ... Giant Tipping where you sneak up behind a very tall fellow and kick him behind his knees thus tipping him over ... you accumulate additional points if you prevent him from regaining his footing by pushing or knocking him back down. :p

Enjoyed reading comments from fellow idiots :goodjob:

That sounds a little bit like Cow Tipping, where, in the dark of night, you sneak into a paddock and find some cows asleep. Now us idiots know that cows all sleep standing up so all you have to do is to sneak up to one, give it a mighty hard push, and it will fall over and wake up at the same time, all the while MOO'ing like crazy as I doesn't know what the hell is going on. This activity obviously has more appeal after quite a few :beer:

Warning: Never attempt to do this whilst a Bull is in the same paddock. :spank:

Hope some of you folks don't mind me plagiarizing part of your signatures...

Now this is sick. :vomit:

We don't mind your sig if you join Team K.I.S.S :D

Excellent. Now Daggie has a sheep to play with Thank you very much

We don't mind your sig if you join Team K.I.S.S :D
Check my profile :D :lol:

FWIW, the creation event is about to start....

there is a "chat room" link at the bottom of the page that'll open a java window. It's the Turnchat channel

A thread has been started for capitol city placement and name. I suggest the Idiots make a contribution there. Please fill in with your ideas so we can go official on one of them.

City name: The Brewery http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/pint.gif

Keeping with the :beer: theme Barley-Hoppah or Amber-Froth

or for Idiots ... Asylum Dreaming


Will there be screenies ??? ... Surely a shot of our surrounds would also get the creative nomenclature a happening.

EDIT ... Here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3579556&postcount=15) ... There are Pigs nearby.

A guess the straights will be after a name of Egyptian theme ... However what about Boaring Wallow in honour of the resource ;)

Anyway I suspect that we shall have to wait Tubby Town to influence these things.


Tech Reserach discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154158)

Boaring Wallow is an excellent name. The next turn chat is on 1/18 and I'm sure that a poll is coming out of that thread so we need to get that in there as soon as we can

EDIT :: I added Boaring Wallow to my post in the city placement and naming thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154185)

Do you want seconders in that thread or wait for poll Oh Captain :salute:

Edit ... guess I am sheep boy :eek: that scares me ... keep Dags away from me !!!

I'd think that by me mentioning that you suggested the name that that would be the automatic seconding. It would be nice if we came up with the majority of names and then just consolidate behind one. It would make our chances of winning higher.

btw, voting as a block is essential to Idiotic dominance. skewing from partee line is permissible, but frowned upon if not discussed here. I'm not trying to make this a dictatorship, but if we all vote for different things, we'll be no better than any other party

I just hope one of the mods gives me permission to join the Civ4 Demo Game group soon. Been waiting for almost 24hrs for permission and still dont have access :sad:

Been trying to think of a name as good as Boaring Wallow. The only thing I can think of is Pig's Ring but that may be a little too rude :mischief:

They won't tell you ... I just revisited the polls and suddenly I could vote ... so try that Beaker :)

I have voted for Boaring Willow..

Sorry it was my first vote and I was not aware of the Idiot official policy!

It's not an official poll yet. Also there appears to be a couple people that liek to start threads so there are two threads going about the city placement and early strategy

Game Session 1 coordination (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154146)

Capitol City Placement and Name (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154185)


IamSid, policy does not become idiots. so do as you wish. I was just making the point that if everyone votes the same, we could be a force to be reckoned with. I don't think that there is a group as big as we are.

You guys will love this!!! I did a little search on the Egyptians. :beer: These guys were tailored made for idiots!!
LOL!!


Bread and beer were the chief components of the Egyptians’ daily diet, eventually even being depicted as the first offering in the funerary offering formula, or hetep di nisu. Though there are several words in the ancient Egyptian language for grain, one term in particular graphically describes the significance of grain in the life of the people. This word was ankhet, describing corn as "that which gives life."

Most farmers derived their income from a mixture of crop-growing and animal husbandry. The richest were the cattle-owners. Herds were the subject of a biannual census, portrayed in the tomb paintings of Nebamun in Thebes and in models from the tomb of Meketra. Cattle-breeding was the height of animal husbandry in Egypt and beef the most prestigious meat. Sheep and goats were more accessible meat-sources for less affluent households, goats being more adaptable to the available scrub grazing, and were easier to milk than cows.
Workers employed in non-agricultural jobs found pig-breeding a lucrative industry. Pigs formed part of the meat diet, as attested by the discoveries of pig bones within human settlements.
Cattle and goats were also kept for their hides, and sheep for their wool. Cow-skin was used to make the seats of chairs. Oxen were important as draught animals.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/farm.htm

http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/exhibitions/2003/egypt-reborn/ancient-egypt/k4/faqs/faqs

:clap: Brilliant Whomp

Beer :beer: and toasted ham and cheese sandwiches :drool: ... a yummy and regular pub meal :rotfl:

Avatar - Wolf in Sheep's Clothing - ybbor
I had never noticed that. It's quite brilliant. All this time I was wondering what your obsession with Sheep was ;)

:nono: that's private and personal Mr. Tubby :lol:

But here is the raw image before ybbor avatared it for me :salute:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/sheepwolf.jpg

http://www.verysimple.com/jason/images/idiot.jpg

http://www.computeruniverse.net/images2/baepper_idiot_outside_orange.jpg

I'm a 100% behind Boaring Wallow for captiol and Fattieland for nation. Bring me the poll and I will rock the vote. Garee with Tubby that it would be fun if we actually could influence by ganging up in the votes.
As motto I suggest: Walk Like an Egyptian

Edit: Any Party (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=140870) that asks members to function as thought police should be treated with a helthy dose of suspicion. This bunch seems like the complete opposite to our...

I'm a 100% behind Boaring Wallow for captiol and Fattieland for nation. Bring me the poll and I will rock the vote. Garee with Tubby that it would be fun if we actually could influence by ganging up in the votes.
As motto I suggest: Walk Like an Egyptian

Edit: Any Party (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=140870) that asks members to function as thought police should be treated with a helthy dose of suspicion. This bunch seems like the complete opposite to our...
To much reading for an idiot like me.. To many big words. Therefore I do not like them!

Having been endorsed into idiocy by not one, not two, but three former girlfriends, I think this is the place for me. That, and I'm 21, and drink too much (but never enough).

Having been endorsed into idiocy by not one, not two, but three former girlfriends, I think this is the place for me. That, and I'm 21, and drink too much (but never enough).
There is never to much to drink!!

Edit: Any Party (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=140870) that asks members to function as thought police should be treated with a helthy dose of suspicion. This bunch seems like the complete opposite to our...

Umm yeah. They sound remarkably like another real political party of say, 65-70 years ago. The "thought police" statement is one which this idiot personally doesn't agree with as it does go against our :beer: swilling, pig-eating, sheep-stealing (and disguising them as wolves :lol: ), idiotic drunkenness.

:lol: at the suggestion of Fattieland. I am behind both Boaring Wallow and Fattieland. Give me a poll so I can *try* and vote.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154314

Alright what should we vote for capital city placement?:)

Well it seems I'm still not allowed. Geez, what I have done to piss off a mod... :confused:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/Poll.png

From one idiot to many others, let me retrace my steps. I entered my details in the Citizen registry thread and waited for a while. I then found that all of you had membership to the Civ4 Demo Game group itself so asked for membership through the group pages - linking back to my citizen request. There must be something I missed here. Maybe I should read the Demo Game FAQ (for Idiots).

Well it seems I'm still not allowed. Geez, what I have done to piss off a mod... :confused:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/Poll.png

From one idiot to many others, let me retrace my steps. I entered my details in the Citizen registry thread and waited for a while. I then found that all of you had membership to the Civ4 Demo Game group itself so asked for membership through the group pages - linking back to my citizen request. There must be something I missed here. Maybe I should read the Demo Game FAQ (for Idiots).

Dont worry (yet). Your not the only one who's had to wait 3 days to vote in the polls. :(

Glad to know that someone else has to wait too. Hopefully... Soon.. One Day.. This Idiot will be able to take part in the festivities. Something I saw today that I thought was extremely funny - you've probably all seen it before. Maybe she should join our group...

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/idiot_WMTBAM.jpg

Vander! What up there kid? Welcome to our madness. :cheers: Let us know if you need anything.

Sadan...everyone knows the big "kettle" star thingy in the sky is biggest. Duh.
BTW we can PM Rik Meleet in a day or two if everyone's not set up for voting rights.

Ok... those already approved to vote here is the two polls

Startup research strategy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154322) - I voted to go Agriculture
Capital location (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154314) - I voted where it is

I'm not sure which is best. There could be a valid arguement made for any research path. Moving one tile to the right will allow 1 more river tile in the 21-tile radius, but it'll eat up a FP. 2-tiles to the right doesn't make sense to me because I follow the philosophy that inorder to waste a turn on turn #1 you better know why you need to move and know what you are getting by moving.

EDIT:: also there is a vote to amend the constitution to allow impeachment of governors instead of having to be stuck with some yahoo.
CoL Amendment: Section 7C, Impeachment of Governors (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154262)

Good logic Tubs. I'm in for all three.

:band:WELCOME VANDER:band:
I voted settle in place, agri and yes to amendment...ah, the conformity of idiocy :lol:

I votes for the agricultural peaches here and NOW ;)

Sorry I missed you Vander. Welcome aboard the good ship Idiote!! I've updated the membership post.

Welcome Vander, from another new member of the idiots (although I am not new to idiocy ;) ). [party] :rockon:

Good to see you drink a lot :thumbsup: That, as I understand it, is a prerequisite to join this group. I've already had a few :beer: and now onto the scotch :D Just waiting for the chance to vote - so I'll drink myself into oblivion in the meantime. Hopefully tomorrow :)

Side note: Jokes about boozing a lot are fun, but only for as long that real life behind it is also fun.
:beer: --> :dance:/ :lol:/ :rockon: = :thumbsup:
:beer: --> :mad: / :cry: / :spank: = :thumbdown:

So true Daghieboy.

I would like to add a story Tubby tells. It's about "The jar of life" (with a Whompalicious twist)

A philosophy professor stood before his class and had some items in front of him. When the class began, wordlessly he picked up a large empty mayonnaise jar and proceeded to fill it with rocks, rocks about 2" in diameter.
He then asked the students if the jar was full. They agreed that it was. So the professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into he jar. He shook the jar lightly. The pebbles, of course, rolled into the open areas between the rocks. He then asked the students again if the jar was full.
They agreed it was. The students laughed. The professor picked up a box of sand and poured it into the jar. Of course, the sand filled up everything else.

"Now," said the professor, "I want you to recognise that this is your life.

The rocks are the important things - your family, your partner, your health, and your children - things that if everything else was lost and only they remained, your life would still be full. The pebbles are the other things that matter like your job, your house, and your car. The sand is everything else, the small stuff. If you put the sand into the jar first, there is no room for the pebbles or the rocks. The same goes for your life. If you spend all your time and energy on the small stuff, you will never have room for the things that are important to you. Pay attention to the things that are critical to your happiness. Play with your children. Take time to get medical checkups. Take your partner out dancing.

There will always be time to go to work, clean the house, give a dinner party and fix the car. Take care of the rocks first - the things that really matter. Set your priorities. The rest is just sand."

But then... A student then took the jar which the other students and the professor agreed was full, and proceeded to pour in a glass of beer. Of course the beer filled the remaining spaces within the jar making the jar truly full.

The moral of this tale is - no matter how full your life is, there is always room for BEER!

Just stopped in to say hello and join the partee, but it looks like everybody left already. Where are you guys hiding out these days? :p

Sign up here Gram H.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=132266&page=12


The idiot partee is just a place to hang out and get Tubby a governorship, Kebaba the national sport, start a pub/bowling alley and whatever else people want to pursue in the game.

There will be much ado about nothing but not letting people underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups, taking no prisoners and such.

IamSid wanted to run a city. Maybe we could get a whole idiotic province.

IamSid wanted to run a city. Maybe we could get a whole idiotic province.
That I do. If you could help me with that don't worry I will appeal to the rather strange views of the idiotioc population.. Such as*free beer* !!!:D :D

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154351

Another poll.

That is so true Daghdha. Seeing it is the Australian Summer at the moment, and the festive season, some of us Aussies tend to drink more than they would in say, winter. Hot weather is so much better for drinking :beer: and it is party-time for us.

And Whomp, I've never heard that version of the Jar of Life :lol:. Nice twist. I've tested the voting again and I still cannot. I'll give it a little more time but I might PM Rik tonight - 12hrs away at least (or should that PM come from you or Tubby?).

Onto something this idiot thinks is funny, this is something you should NOT do in pubs/clubs. Why not just go to the bar?

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/boozer.jpg

I voted for a warrior/worker build combo somewhere :crazyeye:

and I've been out making friends...

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3588562&postcount=74

The PM can come from anyone. Prolly Chieftess or Rik would be the best. I'll PM themm in a minute

Brilliant Tubby. I now have access to vote. Thanks muchly :)

Towing the party line, we are voting for settle in place, agriculture and yes to the amendment. I'll get my votes in.

I just saw this....Username: Sadan01
Mandate: To be the biggest idiot of all idiots.Does Sadan know what he's asking?? Has he seen AK on a good night? :lol:

Here we can vote for Boaring Wallow making fe godfather of our capitol city :) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154561)

Voted for Boaring Wallow. We need to vote before the start of play session (which is under 24 hrs - just quoting from the thread itself; did you expect anything more or less? ;)). I'm sure sheep-boy will be online soon :mischief:
So far Boaring Wallow leads with 5 votes; Bahir Dar is close behind with 4 votes.

the vote is 7 to 5 now :)

UPDATE::: 17 to 11. The historical people are catching up. But they even admit that the city isn't in Egypt :hmm: Go vote people.

AK - voted
Whomp - voted
Daggie - voted
B - voted
Tubs - voted
Processor - not voted
Iron Gold - voted
Smart - not voted
IamSid - voted
Sadan01 - voted
Own - not voted
azzaman333 - voted
Vander - voted
Furiey - voted
gmaHarriet - voted

that means that we've had 4 other's voted with us. We will win if half of the remaining people vote :) Chieftess voted for the Boar :D

No poll is up on falg and motto so I did this one and pinned it in the flag/motto/anthem-thread.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/flagegypt.jpg

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

:egypt: I just had an 80's MTV flashback. My vote is in for the Wallows.

Wow, Whomper, you have > 4k posts. I'm impressed.

I'm racing Fe and I have him beat by 51 right now. I must like to talk or sumpin. How about I shut up for a month. Could you handle the silence? BTW you talk more than AK so what's up with that? :mischief:

Polls, polls, polls... So many polls...

There's only so much an idiot can do, you know...

welcome to democracy.... that's why most of the world isn't a true democracy ;)

Edit and Update - 4hrs after this inital post: The voting is now 14 votes for BW and 11 votes for BD.

Just an update to the poll: I'd say we almost have this in the bag - Boaring Wallow is at 12 votes and the quite frankly boring city name of Bahir Dar has 9 votes. Just don't call me Frank...

I like the flag Daghdha. It would be bloody awesome for everything we put forward to be voted as what the "people/idiots" want.

Boaring Wallow got my vote :)

I also like the flag, although I will probably now be singing that song to myself all evening!

Furiey will you join us? Please, please...we need you!

@ all - go recruit more idiots. u know who they are and where to find them!

Well I do appear to spend most of my time in this forum reading this thread so I have obviously sunk to where I feel most comfortable ;)

If you can cope with another idiot I think I would fit right in - I'll join :D

At least now I'm singing Walk Like an Egyptian I've stopped singing the Ying Tong song (the Goons) I've been singing that ever since the search started for an idiotic anthem. People at work were getting even more worried than usual about me as a result!

:salute: welcome aboard Furiey.

Of note to long time idiots, given that Whomper and Tubs have surpassed my post count, special promotions are in order.

Whomper is promoted to Major General Idiot for devotion to the cause above and beyond

Tubs is promoted to Surgeon General Idiot and Idiot Geek Meister for zealously producing future idiots and charts and such.

I remain almost literate,
The Eldest

I voted and now we are ahead!!(Boaring Wallow of course)

I've voted, and have been relieved of my previous job of Commander of idiots by someone else who has, too, been relieved of this job recently (person who'll get a spam of not-so-subliminals about this DG in the B06 thread btw), and I'm still wondering what could possibly be my job now.

While this is underway of happening, I'll work on a "how to count in base 12" spreadsheet and suggest that every calculation from this point on be done in base 12 for all official documents of the partee.

Wow!!! Cheiftess voted for Boaring Wallow!

For the flag which should we vote for. Maryilin Moron or Walk like an Egyption my vote goes to Marylin.

Even though I think the Marilyn Moron flag is hilarious, I think we'd have more broad appeal for the "Walk like an Egyptian" flag. Unless we had enough votes from just this party to win a majority anyway. I can't be bothered counting them :crazyeye:

If we don't have enough votes by ourselves, we're near it, and having 2+ competitors kinda gives us free runs at a lot of things. We should try coming up with something of our own, if we don't agree on one. The egyptian walk looks good to me, but I'd like to see something less sensible ;)

I had the greatest laugh making Marylin, but I like the sublime idiocy of the :crazyeye: in the other. I also think we may get stray votes for "Walk.."
When poll is up I suggest we vote for "Walk...", and maybe keep Marylin as the Partee banner.

15 votes to 11 verses the straights ... well done idiots ... Now off we should go boldly, in a somewhat humourous egyptian fashion, to the nearest ale house :D

I joined earlier tonight, but haven't been approved yet, so I can't vote. :cry:

Well looks like PWE is playing his old tricks (see the naming poll) ...

Methinks that certain idiots will have fun in this game ;)

Grandma: Now you can vote. :D

well we have 15 members and according to last count we had 11 out of 15 members vote.

i'd rather us be for the walking flag and leave the manson flag as our banner, but I'll go the other way (no jokes here) if the partee wants

btw, the first 10 turns have been played. I personally was wondering how exactly all of that worked and had to miss the first turnchat due to my wife's b'day. There is a chatlog and saves for turn 0, 5, and 10 here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3593128&postcount=11). There is also a screenshot from turn 5 I believe. Also it seems as though Blkbird is pretty overbearing. He got modded twice in about an hour :lol: He was also trying to circumvent official instructions about the scouting by saying that in the instructions it refers to a "Scout" and not a "warrior". I'll have to try harder to be at the next one to have a little idiotic input mingled in with his napoleonistic comments.

We've met the Mongols on turn 10 I believe. The turnchat was stopped at the meeting. No word if it was Ghengis or Kublai KHAAAAAANNNNN!!!!!

Some random and select quotes from the turnlog for those idiots who can't be bothered reading it :D :


[19:01] <!Chieftess> Boaring Wallow is the name. Nice name, too.


[19:16] <+Blkbird> i call for a spot vote on moving towards the hut
[19:16] <+TSteamer> I second
[19:16] <+TSteamer> (if legal)
[19:16] <!Chieftess> I haven't moved it yet.
[19:16] <+Blkbird> since it doesn't contradict the instructions of the SoW
[19:16] <!Chieftess> Wait for the save. I'm uploading it.
[19:16] <+Blkbird> which is invalid because there is on scout
[19:17] <+uubry> he was refering to the warrior SCOUTING
[19:17] <+Blkbird> i mean "no scout"
[19:17] <!Chieftess> You know, I think donsig would do this... :)
[19:17] <+TSteamer> where are you putting it chieftess
[19:17] <+GeorgeOP> you *think* he was refering to the warrior
[19:17] <+Blkbird> uubry: that's your interpretation, which i disagree
[19:17] <+uubry> i know, i'm just translating
[19:17] <+GeorgeOP> I say go pop the hut, then go white water rafting
[19:17] <+Blkbird> uubry: dz did wrote "Scout" with capital "S"
[19:18] <+TSteamer> its silly to think he meant a scout after seeing the
screenshot
[19:18] <+Blkbird> that's not a short name for "warrior scouting"
[19:18] <+Blkbird> a "Scout" with capital "S" is Scout, period
[19:18] <!Chieftess> save uploaded.
[19:18] <+TSteamer> wow, this is just like the real life american congress.
[19:18] <!Chieftess> getting the link
[19:18] <!Chieftess> :lol:
:lol:


[19:27] <!Chieftess> You people are worse than cyc, donsig, eyrei combined. :p
[19:27] <!Chieftess> (old demogame humor)

[19:43] <+uubry> where in relation to warrior
[19:43] <+Blkbird> where did you move the warrior?
[19:43] <!Chieftess> NW
[19:43] <+Blkbird> why???
[19:43] <!Chieftess> I moved the warrior 1 SW to swing around.
[19:43] <+Blkbird> wait a sec
[19:43] <+Blkbird> you're too fast
[19:43] <+GeorgeOP> how long before warrior is built?
[19:44] <!Chieftess> 12 turns
[19:44] <+Blkbird> where did you move the warrior after save?
[19:44] <+uubry> too fast?!?!?
[19:44] <!Chieftess> I moved the "scouting" warrior SW. He saw a hut to
the NW.
[19:44] <!Chieftess> That's where I'm going. :)
[19:44] <+Blkbird> uubry: yeah too fast for us to intervent
[19:44] <!Chieftess> That's the nature of a turnchat...
[19:44] <+Blkbird> Chieftess: yeah that sounds good
[19:44] <+uubry> just say stop
[19:44] <!Chieftess> You'll get used to it when you start seeing 3 hour
turnchats.
[19:45] <!Chieftess> And even those pale in comparison to some turnchats.
[19:45] <!Chieftess> Right fur? :)
[19:45] <+TSteamer> :lol: scouting warrior
[19:45] <+Blkbird> i don't mind 3 hour turnchat

I think I will try and be there too Tubby, depending on the time involved. I had to laugh at the second warning given to 'Bird and another posted said "Wash your mouth out" :lol: And if there is some bloody special rule about an idiot posting this stuff in these threads, let me know and I'll remove :crazyeye:

no I think that it's fair game since the turnchat was posted. As long as you didn't modify them.

If that is the case then, I'm all ok as I did a straight copy and paste but was just selective as a lot of it was welcome's and goodbyes (and they were complete blocks - i.e. I didnt copy one line and then copy the 3rd line and 6th etc to make it look like one contiguous conversation).

:eek: All these big words.. Too much.. Too.... Much.... Make..... It..... Stop.... :help:

Can we as a party lobby to get the Turn Taker to ACTUALLY REPORT A TURN (or OCCURANCE) SUMMARY and post screenies ... and can it be in an easy to access location preferably stickied ...

At the moment I am having big trouble following the game !!!


I thought the whole point is to learn about cIV ... I'm not learning a damned thing and I hate having everything hidden in chat logs ... is this how other demogames are played ?!!!

One moment we are voting for a capital name and discussing where to build and what unit to produce, research etc ... some were polled others promised ...

AND then next there is an obscure report on a wounded scout and who knows where the warrior that we ended up producing is and what adventures we had ... and what the F are we researching and producing at the moment in Boaring Wallow ... and i'd bloody well like to see a picture of our city ... and the world ... and were we as citizens not going to be consulted to name units and stuff ... and and and [pissed]

... <deep breathing> ... better now after the rave but still WTF :crazyeye:

deep breathing is good.

I'll load the game and post some screenies tonight hopefully.

Here's what I have gathered of the first 10 turns.
Capital is tentatively named Boaring Wallow (subject to change if it doesn't win the election)
initial warrior went to the GH first and popped a scout
warrior is scouting to the north (I think)
scout went to the SE
we were 1 tile away and a Mongolian scout popped the GH before we could get there
scout has 0.7 strength but has a promotion that should boost his strength
research set to Animal Husbandry
BW is working a Flood plain

I posted a thread about the build queue (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154799). Since no one (except beta testers) can claim expertise in starts I think that it's a valid discussion to which I am partial to my idea but am very much open to others. A poll will be posted tomorrow about this. If I have to do it myself. I've been reading up on the polling process and such to make sure that this can be an official discussion/poll.

Yay! My membership is now accepted and I voted for Boaring Wallow!!! :D

Ok here is some screen shots from turn 10.

The scout is 0.3 out of 1 and has 1 movement point as well has a promotion available. I guess where the scout is is where the GH was
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/9398/civ4screenshot00009wc.th.jpg (http://img462.imageshack.us/full.php?image=civ4screenshot00009wc.jpg)

the capital and warrior (presumably going for the GH)
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/3325/civ4screenshot00019uy.th.jpg (http://img462.imageshack.us/full.php?image=civ4screenshot00019uy.jpg)

BW is scheduled to grow to 2 pop next turn and IMO should be changed to a worker after growth
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/4733/civ4screenshot00023lg.th.jpg (http://img462.imageshack.us/full.php?image=civ4screenshot00023lg.jpg)

And the tech situation
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/2903/civ4screenshot00035ig.th.jpg (http://img462.imageshack.us/full.php?image=civ4screenshot00035ig.jpg)

Ok, sign me up for the idiot ranks must be expanded!

Any idea on seizing the power? Anarchistic Idiots must rule or we are all doomed!

You can use me to flame and troll over the political opponents. First, I like it. Second, I probably would not be banned for long since I must post in the PBEM forum, SGOTM forum, and GOTM forum. Third, the idea of protecting idiocity seems appealing. Forth, sometimes it can be useful. Fifth, I forgot.

I'm not planning on lurking too much, since the game is kind of idiotic and I have enough of it at work and at home. But you can count on my vote any time.

Well as far as seizing power, I think that we might have it it 90% of our members vote. We could play it like a SG :D . But just that the DP will play for us :lol: .

I have an idea I always dreamed of: electing Chieftess the turnplayer then impeaching her because of unsatisfactory turnplay. :mischief:

Ok, sign me up for the idiot ranks must be expanded!
How cool. Good to have you Akots! Idiocy spans the globe for sure now. I think Tubby can add Houston/Moscow to our idiocy depth chart.

Anarchistic Idiots must rule or we are all doomed!Gareed.

I'm not planning on lurking too much, since the game is kind of idiotic and I have enough of it at work and at home. But you can count on my vote any time. We will let you know when you're needed!

tubs how bout a motion for autolog as the official summary?

EDIT: Happy belated B-day Mrs. Rower. :blush:

Now, I cannot vote but I have an urge to spam over in the main thread. :nuke:

Don't. -- CT

The way the turnchat works in the Civ 3 game at least is the chatlog forms the detailed every move recorded log, saves are posted at the beginning before pressing the button for the first time, then every five turns then a final save. Screeies should be take of significant events eg: city investigations, war parties etc and a summary of key events posted. The various officials should all post in their government threads all the key information relating to their area. Also if a discussion thread is started it should also present the key facts from the game needed to make the decision. It's quite all right to post excerpts from the chat log and any screenies we wish in this thread. In the chat, the posted instructions should be followed, chat attendees can only provide advice to the turnplayer. At least that's how the Civ 3 game worked. No autolog there though, didn't we decide to use it here? I'm pretty sure there were votes on it.....

@akots you need to join the demogame group in your control panel. One of the mods will then give you access but it may take 24 hours or so.

Oh yes, and we already did the impeach (or CC as it was then called) Chieftess thing....

(..)You can use me to flame and troll over the political opponents. First, I like it. Second, I probably would not be banned for long since I must post in the PBEM forum, SGOTM forum, and GOTM forum. Third, the idea of protecting idiocity seems appealing. Forth, sometimes it can be useful. Fifth, I forgot.(..)Don't be so sure. Forum rules apply in the demogame and I don't care where you think you need to post; if you break the rules we'll deal with you.
If you can't be missed on other sections of the forum; don't get yourself banned anywhere.


I approved your membership to the group, by the way. :)

Happy belated B-day Mrs. RowerAt least I didn't forget it ;) I would have been in trouble :whipped:

I don't recall the votes on autolog, but I came in just as things were getting kicked off.

I found this vote (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=150804) and there's another thread further down in this forum about customising autolog, but I can't find any decision :(

Thanks, Rik. I can vote now!! :dance:

I'll try my best to be more of entertainment than trouble. But the name "Idiot's Partee" (judging by name on its own) still calls for some action sometimes! :mischief:

Edited: But there are no open polls. :sad:

For Tubby, and anyone else that is interested, the next game session is to be held by BlkBird on Saturday, 21 Jan. 24:00 UTC.
See this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=132272) for not much more info :D

Build Queue (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154897) poll has been posted. please vote before 7 pm EST Saturday so that your vote can be counted.

At least I didn't forget it ;) I would have been in trouble :whipped:

I don't recall the votes on autolog, but I came in just as things were getting kicked off.
Happy Birthday Mom!
:bday:

I like the SG idea thing.

I' d like to see if we could have a complete sub-forum for us, I mean, this thread is exploding polynomially (it can't be exponential, at some point we will exhaust our source of idiots (I'd like to see a "this source of idiots has been exhausted" "new source of idiots found" grafic) and it might re-appear in another team, or in OT, or Perfection might just eat the newbs and add them to his post count) and (remember I was talking about polynomials) we will take roots in several more places: the bigger the polynomial, the more the number of roots. Of course we only need one real root, but assuming it's not an entirely complex one (can't really be that complex now can it?) there'll be other threads created (or jacked, or mis-used, or trolled, or whatever other forum jargon there is for stealing the frigging fort) by the partee, and (still notwithstanding the remote possibility of a single-real-rooted polynomial) (despite the déjà-vu feeling it might instill inthe un-initiated mind) could become a (self-opinionastically qualified good) thing we'd look (assuming we're not blind, or visually impaired, and that we read this by our own means rather than have someone lecture it to us) (wow, lectures on this thread, gotta be chuck-awesome) at in the near future (disregarding the event of the apocalypse being closer at hand than the aforementionned). (Just imagine, Whomp, what if I just went french in here, to top it off ... once I'll unleash on your CDZ space by a midsummer's drunk eve and you'll regret having suggested it :lol: )

:wavey: akots and Mrs. Tubs.

Btw, I still haven't found where you promoted me, Admiral (I'm not going to spam this sentence with parenthesis, I just wanted to make an example out of the other - and remind myself of SGOTM8) (Let me remind everyone of the event of IP getting promoted OFF of my PREVIOUS task because he was then too OLD, while I didn't know I was off of it in the first place ;):p). I do not wish to press on this matter, but my not having an idiotic purpose here defeats the purpose of not having a purpose in the undergoing of the deliberately idiotic and follow-sheepy-poll-spammer beahvior I've been incited onto in here. Thanks, and looking forward to report in with an actual status :salute:

I like the SG idea thing.

I' d like to see if we could have a complete sub-forum for us, I mean, this thread is exploding polynomially (it can't be exponential, at some point we will exhaust our source of idiots (I'd like to see a "this source of idiots has been exhausted" "new source of idiots found" grafic) and it might re-appear in another team, or in OT, or Perfection might just eat the newbs and add them to his post count) and (remember I was talking about polynomials) we will take roots in several more places: the bigger the polynomial, the more the number of roots. Of course we only need one real root, but assuming it's not an entirely complex one (can't really be that complex now can it?) there'll be other threads created (or jacked, or mis-used, or trolled, or whatever other forum jargon there is for stealing the frigging fort) by the partee, and (still notwithstanding the remote possibility of a single-real-rooted polynomial) (despite the déjà-vu feeling it might instill inthe un-initiated mind) could become a (self-opinionastically qualified good) thing we'd look (assuming we're not blind, or visually impaired, and that we read this by our own means rather than have someone lecture it to us) (wow, lectures on this thread, gotta be chuck-awesome) at in the near future (disregarding the event of the apocalypse being closer at hand than the aforementionned). (Just imagine, Whomp, what if I just went french in here, to top it off ... once I'll unleash on your CDZ space by a midsummer's drunk eve and you'll regret having suggested it :lol: )

:wavey: akots and Mrs. Tubs.

Btw, I still haven't found where you promoted me, Admiral (I'm not going to spam this sentence with parenthesis, I just wanted to make an example out of the other - and remind myself of SGOTM8) (Let me remind everyone of the event of IP getting promoted OFF of my PREVIOUS task because he was then too OLD, while I didn't know I was off of it in the first place ;):p). I do not wish to press on this matter, but my not having an idiotic purpose here defeats the purpose of not having a purpose in the undergoing of the deliberately idiotic and follow-sheepy-poll-spammer beahvior I've been incited onto in here. Thanks, and looking forward to report in with an actual status :salute:
Ahem...it seems Beorn's back at school.
Nice essay on polynomials and such. Akots any scientific clue what he just said? :D

Akots any scientific clue what he just said? Clear as a whistle, we need a screenie on where to find the Idiot rescourses and we need it now.

Blkbird is the Turnplayer for the next set. I'm scared that he's going to not follow the build queue poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154897) since he's playing offline (btw, that really bothers me that he'll be doing it in secret).

We have had 8 out of our 15 members vote. I don't want this to be a tight race because then he'll waste some turns by not getting the worker out quicker than it could have been.

I find it interesting that a player like Shillen's (check his HOF) first build is always worker and doesn't even start a warrior. Let's face it, early exploration in Civ4 is reasonably worthless. No trades and no resources.

Growth is powah!

Bengeance has posted this (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3598869#post3598869) in the Culturists thread. I posted my support behind it and said I would post it here. Make up your own mind.

BlkBird Is very confident with himself. I think it would benefit the community if we kept him away from power. He needs his ego to be deflated.

Be sure to let me know when you need a vote and what I should vote FOR! I'm an idiot and don't understand what's going on. :D

Welcome to my world, grandma :)

@ gma and everyone else,

here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154897) is the only poll that is currently open. It is on what to build in the capital for the next 10 or so turns. Currently the vote is 11 to 5 in favor of our position on the matter. vote how you wish. Arguements can be made for both sides, but ours is better ;)

Summary of current events:

We have met Ghengis Khan to our south. We've popped a scout out of a GH. The capital is about to grow next turn. We are currently producing a warrior.

It has been asserted by me that if you start a warrior and then switch to a worker (no growth during production), you'll get both units out quicker than if you had finished the warrior before starting the worker. Some people are scared to death that the AI will declare upon arrival. The only time that I've seen anyone (AI or human) die in the first 20 turns is a duel sized 4 player map that WHomp & I started using Pitboss. He didn't have time to get his warrior out before Roosevelt burnt his capital to the ground (and no Whomp I won't let you live that down :lol: )

This post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3596152&postcount=158) has some screen-shots

... Akots any scientific clue what he just said? :D

Absolutely none. You seriously expect me to read THAT post? :confused: ;)

On a sidenote, confident DP is good. Just make sure his play reflects the will of the citizens.

The only time that I've seen anyone (AI or human) die in the first 20 turns is a duel sized 4 player map that WHomp & I started using Pitboss. He didn't have time to get his warrior out before Roosevelt burnt his capital to the ground (and no Whomp I won't let you live that down :lol: )
I'm full of hate and disgust.
Hate you, hate you, hate you! :blush:

To give Whomp some credit, I almost was ran over by Saladin, but his warrior was 4 turns behind the burning of Whomperville. Also Duel maps are REAL tight. 4 civ AW game on them won't last long unless you fortify your initial warrior in capital

To give Whomp some credit, I almost was ran over by Saladin, but his warrior was 4 turns behind the burning of Whomperville. Also Duel maps are REAL tight. 4 civ AW game on them won't last long unless you fortify your initial warrior in capital
I don't think I had a warrior. I had a scout.

Bengeance has posted this (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3598869#post3598869) in the Culturists thread. I posted my support behind it and said I would post it here. Make up your own mind.To my surprise the Chatlog posted has been edited. Here is the version I logged. Search for fun to quickly locate the comments specifically mentioned. Times are in GMT.

By edited you mean clipped? Nothing seemed changed. I appreciate the extra chat that wasnt there before.

I haven't checked it word for word, but I meant bits cut out. The chat can make it difficult to find out what happened sometimes, which may well have been why it was done. I tend to post it warts and all when I'm logging (even with my password in on one occasion :crazyeye:) so that there is a full record of what occured.

Furiey

Thanks for posting the whole chat session. I didn't even think to save it when I logged out of the chat.

So, does this mean that Blkbird violated the instructions? I don't get it exactly. And if I may ask again politely, what is the official appointment of CT not counting forum moderator?

I say we, as being citizens (and idiots), make Blkbird "fly away" next election. He is getting on my nerves and to tell you the truth, I don't think some of the things he has said (or implied, or just arguing symantecs) is in the spirit of this Demo*GAME*. Then again, I am just an old fashioned idiot :crazyeye:

Thanks for posting the entire turnlog Furiey. I quoted some of it earlier when it was originally released and that log you posted has a lot more *interesting* details in it.

CT was the designated turnplayer (DP) for the session, so she was trying to interperet the instructions left by the officials in the turnchat instruction thread and use other polls and discussions to fill in the gaps to determine what should be done if there were no or unclear instructions.

I'm not too sure if there are any differences for this Civ 4 DG, but the role of the attendees is as witnesses and advisors, they can be very helpful to find info in the forum to help the DP interperet instructions but they can not order the DP what to do. Blkbird did not violate any instructions as such and was not in a position to actually do so. He was however very vocal in putting forward his position (which you may or may not agree with) making it clear that his position was the one he would take. This attitude can make it very difficult to DP where you often have to follow instructions that go against the way you would play the game and do things that are sometimes even counterproductive. As DP you are just following (or trying to follow) the posted instructions, incorporating those decisions into your playing of the game, whilst logging as much as you can into the chat. I actually find it more difficult than a succession game session.

We shall soon see whether he follows instructions or not, assuming we get enough of a log to tell that is.

Fellow idiots ... sick of being left in the dark? ... and the last to be told about the party? ... or invited only as an after thought? ... or maybe just forgotten cos you are not sitting in the cool table? ... I know I am ... soooo

So i posted this as a friendly warning to those who are currently running the game ... Here for Free Beer (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3602677#post3602677) :D

Completely agree with fe here, something is not right.

I am concerned about this as well. Am I missing something?

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3603224&postcount=4

Spam PM's??? No wait hes a moderater.... Can we impeach him?

FYI: end of the month is coming up which means a new term. Is there anyone who wants any offices? It would be quite funny if we had a person who had no access to [civ4] become president :)

It's time to change the way things are done around here. This constitution will be changed.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3603363&postcount=89

I'm with you Whomp :thumbsup:

I would also propose that us as a partee of united idiots should do our very best to stamp out the rude and egotistical in the game ... we should see ourselves as the guardians of fun :D

When exactly is this election that you speak of Whomp and how many positions are there ... and most importantly you want to govern our capital oh Tubby ???

Governors aren't appointed/elected (I don't know which) until there is 3 cities I think. When there are nominations, I'd like to see some of us nominated.

There are elections every month for the next Term's positions. You can look in the main DG forum to see the current positions

I found this vote (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=150804) and there's another thread further down in this forum about customising autolog, but I can't find any decision :(

The decision was that we can allow the use of autolog, but we can't require it just yet. If the Idiots feel strongly that it should be required, there's always the option of starting an initiative to that effect. It would be better to use a CoL amendment.

I guess I should officially check in... Grumpy Old Wildcat Idiot checking in. :D

On Blkbird's session: I don't like it either but in a first term with lots of new players it's hard to predict what we'll get. I give him the benefit of the doubt that the reason it's non-interactive is the pain of task switching. So early in the game it will be immediately obvious if instructions aren't followed. We can tell from the ending save of the session where the hammers and food went.

On people not posting information: Anyone up to asking for a JR on that? Also just make sure you pay attention to who does their office well and who doesn't. Nominations will be posted in about 1.5 days. ;) Bad manners will definitely come into consideration. :D

On the deplorable condition of the game, if he who should never again be named hadn't shown the appearance of a rising star I wouldn't have supported him, and I would have probably run for President. The tri system leaves us with an acting President who doesn't seem to be 100% into that role. It's kinda indirectly my fault :mad::wallbash::vomit:
and I can't really do much about it from the CJ position except guide my fellow justices towards the direction that expedites the game.

Did I mention nominations are soon? I'll volunteer to be President Idiot, and would support Tubby for a governor. Anyone want to go for Minister of the Interior so the governor appointments can be influenced? And everyone who has time to be DP needs to be nominated into the pool, and use preferential voting if anyone shows up nominated that we don't trust.

Welcome DS... Now we only need donsig or Provo in here and we'll have all 4 civ3 demo teams represented :lol:

I would like to join the idiocy movement =] On the condition that I remain sober due to my religion =] I officially give my free beer to F333 something =] I would love to help keep information accessible! Next election I would like to run for Minister of the Interior! Cottages on the floodplains is first priority I say =] We can build small towns of idiocy on our little river! And make a lot of gold besides, to fund the progressing of our sciences (So we can use them idiotically)

Welcome NB. Without knowing too much of what you subscribe to, I'm going to pass for now on my support on you being Minister of the Interior. I'll research a little on you and see if it changes my mind before I vote.

We are allowed to have multiple idiots nominated after all.

@Dave and Nomad
WELCOME into the warmth and confusion of the Idiots :D. Hopefully our look upon the civving experience and how to have a good time will suite you well.
This is a very non-besserwisser bunch and if we keep growing like this I hope we can vote away the arrogant and unfun (tm Sid) elements of the game. Looking fwd to the nominations. I'll lay low 4 a while but will support any fellow party member that wishes to take office.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/wildcat.jpg

From one Wildcat to another Wildcat I say Bear down Lute Ol...I mean DaveShack!! :cool: I'm sure you will have our full support for presidency.

Nomad welcome! Use this forum to discuss your plans. Idiocy breeds talented civ players so please expound on your plans.
Also, I highly recommend a new avatar. There are some very talented artists at CFC including our very own Mistfit. Here's where you can request one that fits your fancy.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=99969&page=125

[civ4] :eek: Nominations already? I'd better sort out what I need to do for the [c3c] demogame.

As far as this one goes, I can see floodplains in the fog so have to be very careful if I load the save not to scroll around, that is IF I can load the save as it's very temperamental and don't mention slow..... Not surprisingly I still play more Civ3. I'll have to play a bit more and see if I can get [civ4] running with mIRC. Strangely though I can have Outlook running and be doing a full virus scan without any problem and Alt-tabbing isn't quick but isn't all that slow either.

I had a look in the laws to see what the DPs were required to log and can't find any requirement at all! (relevant post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3579772&postcount=4)). After all the efforts in previous demogames to get people to post information for people who can't open the save we seem to have gone backwards here.

edit: Thanks DS (and welcome) on the autolog answer, with the trouble I've gone through trying to get [civ4] running, coupled with lack of time I haven't taken much notice of this forum until recently.

I would like to be a governer if you could help me with that.. I believe it would be in all our best interests.

In order not to loose focus I think it's time fooooooooor... A Beer Joke

A drunk is driving through the city and his car is weaving all over the road. Eventually a cop pulls him over.
"Did you know," says the cop, "that a few intersections back, your wife fell out of your car?"
"Oh, thank heavens," sighs the drunk. "For a minute there, I thought I'd gone deaf."

http://civfanatics.net/uploads10/pint.gif

@Sid
Sure, but would you consider it rude to ask for some hint about your level of playing?

Wow, the ranks of idiots have really become quite idiotic quickly approaching complete idiocity. Sorry, you must have been tired of all these redundant repetitions but I can't help myself being overwhelmed and bursting with idiocity.

I'm sure there would be a few people who can either run Civ4 in a window and use mirc or who can Alt-Tab and be just fine. That would be a truly interactive and greatly exciting experience and might greatly improve attendance during the turnchats especially coupled with simultaneous posting of screenshots in the official thread to follow the progress of the game! Well, it is 21st century after all, why not then.

IMHO, this might be the mandatory requirement for the position on DP. Whereas President can be more political figure or so it seems according to the current law with certain decision making powers. Another IMHO, but it is not that important whether President actually has Civ4 running.

... As far as this one goes, I can see floodplains in the fog ...

I can also see forest/jungle sometime at the edge after patching to 1.52 but not in the protected saves. :confused:

@Sid
Sure, but would you consider it rude to ask for some hint about your level of playing?
No, it is not rude. I am playing at Prince at the moment.

Just some random thoughts from the founder:

Dave for president. He's got the oofmp and post count and demo experience to run it

Tubs for DP. He can count to ten and do charts and thingys. and he can multitask (believe it or not, he can walk and talk at the same time ;) saw it live

I'd argue against voting out those WHOSE NAMES CAN'T BE MENTIONED What would we do for fun? :crazyeye:

there was another point I wanted to make, but Ive forgotten. Something about whomp and a movie...

there was another point I wanted to make, but Ive forgotten. Something about whomp and a movie...
Yes AK i met Booger on the set of Revenge of the Nerds. He's cool and ate at Sausage Deli. The pie's were good and ultimately this is were my idiocy started.
Big surprise.

Sausage deli can't beat the Soda Jerk in Ak's town

I can also see forest/jungle sometime at the edge after patching to 1.52 but not in the protected saves. :confused:
I think Furiey was talking about seeing floodplain on the other end of the earth, in totally unexplored territory. The T&L doesn't always work perfectly on some computers, and the fog effect is probablly just turning down the lighting -- probably meaning the lighting is wrong on FP tiles so it doesn't get turned down on those systems.

Wait, this isn't the tech support forum. :crazyeye:

Been thinking too much lately, pass me some :beer: so I can put them brain cells back in their places. :lol:

Well, it is in my style and oppinion to build cottages on flood plains since they already produce so much food the ridiculous commerce from towns that cottages turn into make it worth it in the long run. Grasslands I build cottages on, (All of this is subject to change in specific conditions) Plains I build farms on (For growth purposes) hills get mined and forests are allowed to remain if they are the grassland kind which provide 2 food and 1 hammer. Forests on plains I also usually leave for when a more concentrated hammer requirement is needed in a city build. Connecting cities with roads is always a priority. I would be willing to support ANYONES nomination for the minister of interior who favors a strong usage of cottages. If anyone would replace my self-nomination with those ideas, I will surrender my candidacy in favor of that citizen.

Welcome to the party [party] Nomad Bryce ... :beer: I get twice the beer allowance of everyone else :dance:

I support wholeheartedly DaveShack as the Prez :thumbsup:

... and Tubby as first governor :love: cos we need the capital to lead by example and influence the direction of our Egyptusian culture ;)

Perhaps someone <cough> <Tubby> <cough> can start an idiot election ticket :p

Did I mention that I get extra beer :rotfl:

No, seriously, will anyone replace me? If someone wants the job and agrees with strong use of cottages, I will completely back off? You see, I win either way so I really don't mind. In one way, I get to make sure the land is worked properly, in the other situation, I get more life! lol. Any takers? I'll lead your campaign!

Side note, fe3333au, your avatar is scary, so is whomps. And why change avatars? Asoka is one of my favorite historical figures and this is probobly the best modern representation of his likeness. If anyone can find the original Ir-Won Song of Won Buddhism, I will accept it as an avatar, but only the one drawn in black and if it matches the forum skin color for plainess. You will find that I am colorful in my plainess, that is where my color lies. For what is color without plain, and plain, without color.

OK...I'm here...what do I do now? :confused:

OK...I'm here...what do I do now? :confused:

Have fun, relax and have a :beer:

Speaking for myself, I'm still puzzled whether the scheduled turns were played and what was the outcome of these turns. :confused: :lol:

Yes, turns were played. The outcome can be found in this turnchat summary (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=132272) thread.

Thanks a lot for the link. I guess the treads are all clogged and it is very hard to spot the right one. May be it can be a sticky-sticky thread which is always on top but that is probably not allowed by the forum software.

Have fun, relax and have a :beer:
Thanks I will, already relaxed, and I'm underage. ;)

btw, AK, you may want to change that "We're all old" part in the first post.

Nomad, you have a plan with an actual rational (which is not always the case here in the land of idiots). Don't give up the office if you don't have to.

I'm vulgar, abusive and stupid, but not to my team. It appears that goes against your philosophy Nomad, but don't worry about, because I won't disrepect u anywhere.

OT, IP you're now the the Brigadier in charge of SpecOps. Figure out what that means and report to whomp.

Did I mention I'm <censored> at someone who desires to be a linguist. Not fe, not whomp, not nomad, not tubs, not dave, etc.

Free promotion to whomever can identify peewee2 in a PM

Small promotion to anyone who can identify the AFC rep.

I think I am going to recruit emp.

@ IP, post one now edited

Nomad, you have to understand where my first post about you as Min. of Int. You had just signed up... and then requested a position. I know most of the others already here. I didn't know you. I also am a strong supporter of cottages. You got my vote :thumbsup:

Prez -> Dave's Shaking Shack
Dept of Int -> Nomad "The cottage man" Bryce
Dept of Military -> Whomp?
Dept of Science -> B?
Justice -> Iron "Sheep Boy" Gold?

I like tub's roster. based on what I know of all, it should work. although I do worry about fe and the sheep...

How about some DPs?

We could put forward a few of those.

How about some DPs?

We could put forward a few of those.
didn't know that was an electable position.....

Prez -> Dave's Shaking Shack
Dept of Int -> Nomad "The cottage man" Bryce
Dept of Military -> Whomp?
Dept of Science -> B
DP -> Tubby
Governor-> IamSid , Tubby


The reasons for the "?" are because I want the people to accept the nomination.

I'd love to be head of science or anything, I just don't have a whoopin clue about CIV, so it might be misleading. That being said, sure.

Time for a vote. It's a tough call on the one hand this game has been a mess from the beginning it seems and on the other DZ shouldn't have hit the keys he did. The fact that the cheat option was on in the first place seems really stupid to me but whatever I'm just another idiot. I would suggest whatever you feel is right.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=12452

I voted restart before consulting ... this game started wrong (one person's ego of destruction ... even seeing his name on stickied threads as the starter is offensive to me :mad: ) and even with a wordy manifesto, do we even have an official president yet ?!!

So restart and wipe the board ... use this experience as a learning curve ...

I must decline the offer ... I can't get cIV on my system yet ... so am here to have fun ... and hopefully if the reporting element gets sorted out ... will learn about the game ...

The cheat option was was left on as otherwise we couldn't use the autolog. I though autolog was going to be mandated, but now we don't appear to be using it! DS is producing something based on the hall of fame mod that will log with the chaet option off, but it will only work with NTFS file systems, anyone still on FAT32 will not even be able to load the game. I don't know yet whether it can be modded into the game or whether we would have to restart to use it though.

Nomination for DP. I would normally do this as I enjoy DPing, but I have problems with Civ 4 and had to go through a lot of hassle to get round the game insisting I did not have the DVD in the drive even when I did. I have an old GEForce 2 MX400 graphics card which suffers from the problem of being able to see Floodplains in the fog, so I have to be careful not to scroll into the fog which is easy enough to do just looking quickly at a city, but more difficult when playing. I try not to do it in my own games but still manage to. I also have difficulty running other applications while running Civ, although I can run Outlook and do a full virus scan (somthing that causes almost everything else to grind to a halt), I don't appear to be able to run mIRC or anything to create a logfile. Alt-tabbing isn't too bad though if I could run anything else. I would therefore be reduced to an off-line session which I do not think are a good thing. So I must decline.

DPs can hold another position.

Hey peeps! I've been so rational and all in the IIP, I hope I can join you guys to balance myself out with some beer... Can I huh? Can I can I can I...?

Is everyone trying to join up to get a piece of our voting bloc?

Since the moderators have already said (in another parties thread) that parties can't restrict membership I guess we have to accept everyone. That being said. I personally won't vote for people of another "political party". Nomad Bryce may be the only exception to that.

After all who in the real world is a member of multiple parties? There are none and those who have attempted it are shunned by both parties

We have to think this over. Of course we cannot exclude anyone and that's fine, but there is an obvious risk with including (and supporting) anyone that comes along and join. It's obvious that we are soon the biggest (and most powerful?) party in the demogame, and it would be easy for citizens that aspire for an office to just come in and say "hey I'm a member so vote for me". It is also impossible the immediately see the difference between them and those who are made of the true idiotic stuff (so don't take this personal Gloriana). What we could do is to treat members of other parties as lurkers as long as they have multiple party-membership. That would mean they are welcome to read and post (which we cannot deny anyone), but will not be responded to or voted for. If a new member of the party wants to take advantage of our votes he/she must (1) resign from other parties and (2) ,like the rest of us, explaing why a vote on him/her would be a good choise.
Unless we do something like this I see, like Tubs, the possibilty of our party to be hi-jacked by office chasers.

Hey peeps! I've been so rational and all in the IIP, I hope I can join you guys to balance myself out with some beer... Can I huh? Can I can I can I...? Welcome Gloriana. You are in another party, yes? Please explain to us why you'd like to be in both parties. We are a pretty tight knit group and would never exclude anyone but we would prefer to help people that are dedicated to our cause.

Well, it is in my style and oppinion to build cottages on flood plains since they already produce so much food the ridiculous commerce from towns that cottages turn into make it worth it in the long run. Grasslands I build cottages on, (All of this is subject to change in specific conditions) Plains I build farms on (For growth purposes) hills get mined and forests are allowed to remain if they are the grassland kind which provide 2 food and 1 hammer. Forests on plains I also usually leave for when a more concentrated hammer requirement is needed in a city build. Connecting cities with roads is always a priority. I would be willing to support ANYONES nomination for the minister of interior who favors a strong usage of cottages. If anyone would replace my self-nomination with those ideas, I will surrender my candidacy in favor of that citizen.
Nomad I really like the idea of cottages on flood plains as well.

However, I find chopping forests are extremely powerful early game tactic similar to how a 4 turn settler factory would be power in Civ3. What are your thoughts on this? Maybe some others can chime in on this. I know Akots is playing at a very high level and can give his view.

The problem with chopping too many forests is that if you leave some behind they'll spread to other tiles.

I don't mind the chop here and there, but I'd rather to save them until we need speed (ie: racing to a wonder or a surprise attack that we are not prepared for)

The problem with chopping too many forests is that if you leave some behind they'll spread to other tiles.

I don't mind the chop here and there, but I'd rather to save them until we need speed (ie: racing to a wonder or a surprise attack that we are not prepared for)They will spread to other tiles as long as there's connected to forest tiles. I agree that chopping for wonders is a good plan as well but early settlers can increase the number of forest tiles inside the country's radius.

Just for the record, are we the first party to have our Founder and Eldest banned for foul languge 20 turns into the demogame. I mean, it was baaaad and nothing to laugh at or in anyway encourage, but at the same time... a wee bit funny

We do need to chop forests that are on river tiles. That denial of commerce from the river is too important to lose to another sheild or whatever (Depending on what's under the forest).

I'll hereby expose my scientific dept head's campaign stragey: Top to bottom, right to left, as availability comes.

I will need help defining availability, top, bottom, right and left, though. Please, anyone who has the game, enlighten me on that one. But it does sound to me, in princepals, as a fair plan.

Regarding chop: Of course, why not, lets chop some forest here and there. It all depends on the map and health which we need. I'd say that start near the flood plains (somewhat unhealthy) requires at least 2 and may be 3 or 4 forests left intact in the initial city radius to balance the health issues. But it is a good idea to chop forests outside of these 9 tiles imho. The earlier we chop, the more cities we can build. THe more cities we can build, the more units we can build. The more units we can build, the faster we can go and kill somebody out there. The more blood is spilled, the greater is the fun. The greater is the fun, the more beer we can have. The more beer we can have, the more drunk we get. The more drunk we get, the more horrible would be the hangover. So, chopping trees would ultimately lead to a horrible-horrible hangover. :confused:

Am I wrong somewhere here? :crazyeye:

Upon careful review of the facts presented, I think you need to consume, ummm, examine, the evidence again. :beer:

And again. :beer:

And then once more, just in case. ;) :beer:

-- Ravensfire

Chopping with a plan is ok -- clear cutting is a very bad idea.

The kind of hangovers I've been having are the kind where my eyeballs feel like they need to be taken out and washed, after playing "one more turn" all night. :crazyeye: Better living through chemistry prevents me from indulging in the other kind -- just a taste now and then for old times sake. :cry:

Chopping with a plan for sure. The forest's create health (0.4 per tile) but chopping areas where the citizens can't work makes sense and senses are something we have seven of and seven is a very lucky number when throwing dice and dice is something you do when you chop and you chop so you can win the game and drink beer. :beer:

What a nicely rounded sentence you got there, Whopmer. :D

I generally dislike chopping, mostly because it'll produce health problems later on. We should chope one or maybe two, but anything more means smaller cities in the late game.

Forests bring 0.5 health after the patch iirc? :confused:

We can safey chop the forests which are outside of the effective limit for the health bonus but which still bring "full load" of lumber shields. There are a number of these forests which can be chopped usually, not just one or two.