View Full Version : Combat: why does it do this?


A+ombomb
Feb 02, 2006, 02:16 PM
Montezuma's Horse Archer has defeated Tokugawa's Samurai!
Tokugawa's Samurai is hit for 14 (0/100HP)
Tokugawa's Samurai is hit for 14 (2/100HP)
Tokugawa's Samurai is hit for 14 (16/100HP)
Tokugawa's Samurai is hit for 14 (30/100HP)
Tokugawa's Samurai is hit for 14 (44/100HP)
Tokugawa's Samurai is hit for 14 (58/100HP)
Montezuma's Horse Archer is hit for 28 (72/100HP)
Tokugawa's Samurai is hit for 14 (72/100HP)
Tokugawa's Samurai is hit for 14 (86/100HP)
(Combat: -25%)
(Extra Combat: -20%)
Combat Odds: 99.1%
Tokugawa's Samurai (9.6) vs. Montezuma's Horse Archer (4.8)

I am very confused as to why combat functions like this. Why does the horse archer attack so many times and the samurai only once? Why don't they alternate attacking? Is the first strike code bugged, and the horsearcher receives 2 first strikes instead? I think that the combat is severely messed up! Someone please tell me why exactly these sorts of situations happen.

DaveMcW
Feb 02, 2006, 02:21 PM
There is a known bug in the odds calculator, you don't really have 99.1% of winning.

But even if the odds are correct, you should expect this to happen 1 out of 100 battles.

DaviddesJ
Feb 02, 2006, 02:26 PM
This should be in one of the strategy or general forums, not the GOTM forum.

I can't explain all of the details above, but here's the basic idea. Each round, either the attacker scores a hit, or the defender scores a hit. (Except for "first strikes", when only the side with the first strikes has the chance to hit.) There is no alternation. In your example above, the Horse Archer happened to win rounds 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 9; the Samurai won round 7.

See "Combat Explained" at http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=137615 for much more information on how combat works.

pnp_dredd
Feb 02, 2006, 02:28 PM
yeah, I would say that you were just very unlucky to lose 6 rounds in a row when you had 2:1 odds of winning each round.

AlanH
Feb 02, 2006, 02:30 PM
Please do NOT start discussions about the current game outside of the spoilers. A small amount of patience is all it requires to wait for the spoiler to open. Even if your initial question seems 'clean' it can provoke follow up that isn't. It's much easier to just follow the simple rules of the GOTM forum.

Note that even this small question has exposed one of the AI civs!
Thread closed.