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PreTzeL_22
Feb 07, 2002, 03:12 PM
Um, yeah, that about sums it up.

N.B. Difficulty no lower than regent. Also, we could take away the yanks, aztecs and iroquios (or howsoever you spell it) to emulate european colonisation of the Americas and of course Australia (which should be a civ if you ask me. In my opinion Australia.....). Tell me if you like it.

EmprorCoopinius
Feb 08, 2002, 03:42 PM
I'd like to play, been playing a lot of world map games lately with Marla's map, Romans and Germans. It would be interesting to actually get to colonize North America.

Civanator
Feb 09, 2002, 08:07 AM
I've been waiting for a succession game. u can count me in
:D ;)

joespaniel
Feb 09, 2002, 08:19 AM
Since its an open SG, I'll play a turn or two. :D

One suggestion:

Leave Iroquois and Aztec in North America. I agree the Americans could be left out in 4000 BC, but why the others?

America was occupied by those tribes since the Ice Age over 10,000 years ago. There were lots of people here when colonists arrived in the 15th Century.

Unfortunately for them...

Start it up, Pretzel. :goodjob:

xrang
Feb 09, 2002, 06:55 PM
may i play, too? one quick comment, why choose an open game? :confused: :)

donsig
Feb 09, 2002, 07:00 PM
Well, start it up!;)

PreTzeL_22
Feb 09, 2002, 10:13 PM
Sorry I've been a while. I'm having incredible difficulty loging in. Righto, I'm starting with the aztecs and irisomething. We should have fun pacifying the barbarian natives. :egypt: :tank: !

PreTzeL_22
Feb 09, 2002, 10:18 PM
America was occupied by those tribes since the Ice Age over 10,000 years ago. There were lots of people here when colonists arrived in the 15th Century.

I know, I know... :)

joespaniel
Feb 09, 2002, 11:11 PM
Sorry...:D

EmprorCoopinius
Feb 10, 2002, 09:14 AM
Hehe, we can see how pretty the Iroqoius and Aztecs are without Americans before we start to kill hem. :goodjob:

PreTzeL_22
Feb 10, 2002, 03:38 PM
Erm, call me stupid and absent minded after you've read this, but I spent the time I had on the computer trying to run the correct starting positions for Marla's map, but for some reason when I tried to play the game it crashed, over and over again. :confused:

Now, what I didn't notice is that I was running the wrong scenario. Oops! :rolleyes: :mad: :cry: (starts whistling in an offhanded manner..) Sorry guys! I wasted all my time trying to work out what was wrong! Doh!

Now it's Monday here and I expect I'll be tied down with homework till thursday, so why doesn't EmprorCoopinius start (he has the map) then civantor, myself, joe then xrang.

We'll play either Monarch or regent, that's all I feel capable of. Let The Game Begin! :hammer:

EmprorCoopinius
Feb 10, 2002, 05:01 PM
Alright, here we go, on Regent level. I played 30 turns to get us going. My first succession game, so be kind. =)

4000 BC - The German tribesmen band together and found a new city, Berlin. The leader of the new nation is a despot, ruling with an iron fist, King Freidrich von Cooper. After the new city's most learned men are gathered, research is begun on iron working.
Our worker begins a road to a nice city site in Denmark

3850 BC - first warriors leave Berlin and head north into Denmark, another unit is ordered by the king.

3650 BC - Second warrior unit is mustered, leaves Berlin and heads west. A spearman unit is begun.

3450 BC - contact with the French in our west. Joan of Arc is ploite, but unbending concerning technology trades, so the King sends her emissary away quickly.

3350 BC - first spearman unit is complete in Berlin, production changed to settler.

3200 BC - A friendly Angle tribe teaches us of ceremonial burial. The Romans contact us about trading it, and we do, trading the tech and 12 gold for alphabet. The Romans are cautious towards us.

3150 BC - contact with the English, trade them ceremonial burial and 3 gold for pottery.

3050 BC - settler finished in Berlin, heads north into Denmark. Berlin begins building a temple.

3000 BC - friendly Marcomanni teach us about masonry.

2900 BC - Leipzig founded, begins producing a spearman.

2850 BC - Our warrior angers some primitive Angle tribes, but defeats three untis without a scratch and becomes Elite.

2800 BC - road to Leipzig completed, new Eastern Way being cut outside Berlin.

2750 BC - the loyal German people expand His Majesty's palace.

2710 BC - King Friedrich von Cooper dies suddenly while in Berlin. The nation mourns, but also looks for a new leader in these unsure times.


And the game...

EmprorCoopinius
Feb 10, 2002, 05:08 PM
Alright, here we go, on Regent level. I played 30 turns to get us going. My first succession game, so be kind. =)

4000 BC - The German tribesmen band together and found a new city, Berlin. The leader of the new nation is a despot, ruling with an iron fist, King Freidrich von Cooper. After the new city's most learned men are gathered, research is begun on iron working.
Our worker begins a road to a nice city site in Denmark

3850 BC - first warriors leave Berlin and head north into Denmark, another unit is ordered by the king.

3650 BC - Second warrior unit is mustered, leaves Berlin and heads west. A spearman unit is begun.

3450 BC - contact with the French in our west. Joan of Arc is ploite, but unbending concerning technology trades, so the King sends her emissary away quickly.

3350 BC - first spearman unit is complete in Berlin, production changed to settler.

3200 BC - A friendly Angle tribe teaches us of ceremonial burial. The Romans contact us about trading it, and we do, trading the tech and 12 gold for alphabet. The Romans are cautious towards us.

3150 BC - contact with the English, trade them ceremonial burial and 3 gold for pottery.

3050 BC - settler finished in Berlin, heads north into Denmark. Berlin begins building a temple.

3000 BC - friendly Marcomanni teach us about masonry.

2900 BC - Leipzig founded, begins producing a spearman.

2850 BC - Our warrior angers some primitive Angle tribes, but defeats three untis without a scratch and becomes Elite.

2800 BC - road to Leipzig completed, new Eastern Way being cut outside Berlin.

2750 BC - the loyal German people expand His Majesty's palace.

2710 BC - King Friedrich von Cooper dies suddenly while in Berlin. The nation mourns, but also looks for a new leader in these unsure times.


And the game...

EmprorCoopinius
Feb 10, 2002, 05:18 PM
Uhmm, maybe this time...

Civanator
Feb 10, 2002, 06:00 PM
I'll go next for a couple of turns. i'll hav a post by tommorow.

Civanator
Feb 10, 2002, 06:23 PM
hav the game here. i played 4 turns cause i suck

T1 2639 b.c.- spearman in lepzieg finished, ordered to barracks

T2 2590 b.c.- nothing

T3 2550 b.c.-french settle orleans outside of berlin's borders, we get mysticism, found russia

T4 2510 b.c.- lepzieg finishes barracks, temple ordered

and the game.......

attachtatuk
Feb 10, 2002, 08:13 PM
I' m taking it for a couple of turns to see what I can do

xrang the II
Feb 11, 2002, 07:48 PM
This is xrang's new screen name. I couldn't log in before(what?).

PreTzeL_22
Feb 11, 2002, 09:39 PM
Could anybody post a screenshot of our glorious empire?

attachtatuk
Feb 12, 2002, 12:15 AM
sorry guys still got the game

I got a lot of problem with my computer if I'm not finished tomorrow I'll send the game

BTW how to take a screenshot ????

EmprorCoopinius
Feb 13, 2002, 06:51 PM
Hey man, how's the game looking?

PreTzeL_22
Feb 13, 2002, 09:54 PM
BTW how to take a screenshot ???? To be quite honest, I ummm, I don't know. :blush: I'll play this afternoon if someone could attach it....

Anyway, shall we settle with the current no. of players?

attachtatuk
Feb 13, 2002, 11:03 PM
Sorry guys I cannot be part of the empire, have to much problems with my computer.

Here's the file

PreTzeL_22
Feb 13, 2002, 11:21 PM
All right, starting the game. For the full story, tune in in16 hours.
BE THERE! :D

xrang the II
Feb 14, 2002, 04:03 PM
in order for you to make sreenshot: click the 'print screen' key directly above the 'insert' key on the keyboard. live long and prosper. :lol:

xrang the II
Feb 17, 2002, 08:32 PM
16 hours came and went btw:lol: np, really:rolleyes:

PreTzeL_22
Feb 18, 2002, 03:23 PM
Sorry guys, I've been trying to get this *&-^# forum to work for me for a few days. It doesn't seem to work with the game attached, so I'll have to email it to the next person.

Anyway, the game: Played twenty turns (a few days ago) and it became alarmingly apparent that we're being sandwiched by the french and romans. Also, WE HAVE NO IRON :mad: . iT HAS BEEN greedily monopolised by the evil french (who don't even realise what they have. An invasion is in order, methinks :viking: .

Whoever wants to play next, just say so.

xrang the II
Feb 18, 2002, 04:15 PM
I'll take it. Aren't we going to post a summary of what we did? I thought that was the plan....np, really. I'm next (IT'S ABOUT TIME!):mad: E-mail it to me I suppose...

PreTzeL_22
Feb 18, 2002, 09:59 PM
E-mail it to me I suppose

You'll have to tell me your address, the forum won't let me view it.... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Darn these accursed forums, it works fine on others. :mad: :mad:
(I'm somewhat angry) ( :mad: )

xrang the II
Feb 19, 2002, 11:27 AM
let me first see if yours works :mad:

xrang the II
Feb 19, 2002, 11:29 AM
oh you don't have urs up on the forum......:mad: ranguskhan@aol.com, here it is btw

PreTzeL_22
Feb 20, 2002, 09:59 PM
I've posted the game off to Xrang, here's a summarry:

The Romans founded a city in Spain. I founded two. Researched Iron working and we HAVE NONE! But the French do.... hmmm....
Completed barracks in Leipzig. Beginning mobilisation for a war against the french to gain some much needed Territory, Iron and some wines.

Good luck against the evil French and their evil *cough* 'Saint' ("We Love the Saint Day" :rotfl: :lol: ) Xrang!

BTW, are Joespaniel and Donsig still playing?

xrang the II
Feb 21, 2002, 11:05 AM
i'm playing, i'll have it ^ soon:p

xrang the II
Feb 22, 2002, 12:32 PM
dude, i have way too much on my plate right now. could u skip me? I'm sure u can do it without me....:(

donsig
Feb 23, 2002, 10:08 AM
Are there two games going at once on this thread?:confused:

donsig
Feb 23, 2002, 11:36 PM
I grabbed the last posted sav and here's what happened:

2670 BC: Barracks built in Berlin and Leipzig.

2470: 2 archers formed.

2270: Our forces (3 vet archers, 1 elite warrior, 1 vet spearman) march on Paris.

2190: War declared on France.

2150: Siege of Paris begins. Germans begin making iron weapons.

2110: Paris razed.

2070: March to Lyon begins.

1990: Lyon destroyed.

1870: Our forces stand outside Orleans.

donsig
Feb 23, 2002, 11:40 PM
This is a crowded world! I suggest we finish off France then turn on Rome. We must rid ourselves of Ceasar before he starts making legionaries!

I think we should research towards map making so we can take out England as well.

Note that Greece is nearby. Shouldn't tangle with the hoplites just yet.

We should raze the cities and build our own.:)

PreTzeL_22
Feb 24, 2002, 03:28 PM
I suggest we finish off France then turn on Rome. We must rid ourselves of Ceasar before he starts making legionaries

hmmm, seems what I did counts for nothing,sigh, Ohwell. By the way, nice work donsig. I didn't get that far anyway....

We should raze the cities and build our own.

Why? I agree on paris, we should found the new city right on the english channel, one square up from the original site, but why so for the rest? Ohwell.

I guess we should make some sort of order for our turns....
How 'bout: 1st empror
2nd civantor
3rd xrang
4th Myself
5th Donsig
6th Joespaniel?

EmprorCoopinius
Feb 24, 2002, 07:39 PM
Sounds fine.

donsig
Feb 24, 2002, 08:01 PM
hmmm, seems what I did counts for nothing,sigh, Ohwell. By the way, nice work donsig. I didn't get that far anyway....

I think two games were started in this thread. The first start was posted and is the one I picked up on. The second one was getting e-mailed around. Both can still be played but one should be put into a new thread so they don't get tangled.

donsig
Feb 24, 2002, 08:05 PM
Why? I agree on paris, we should found the new city right on the english channel, one square up from the original site, but why so for the rest? Ohwell.

I would raze the captured city if we could locate a new one in a better position. If not then I'd keep it.:) In any event what I said is only a suggestion - in succession games whoever is currently playing makes all the descisions for his or her turns.

donsig
Feb 24, 2002, 08:07 PM
I guess we should make some sort of order for our turns....

We could or we could just leave it as an open game as advertised. (In an open game anyone can play. All you do is post that you are playing then post your summary and sav file within 24 hours.)

I will play either way.:D

LKendter
Feb 24, 2002, 08:19 PM
Please confirm this is an open game, as I just downloaded the game :crazyeyes

With the intention to play, of course :p

LKendter
Feb 24, 2002, 10:33 PM
Pre-turn -
I immediately switch Berlin to Pyramids. This is a hugh world. The value of ALL wonders goes way up with a hugh world. I switch Leipzig to settler, so that we can get our third city.

1830 BC - Talk with Rome, they have NOTHING to offer. Cheapskates will only give $20 for pottery, why bother :(
They have 3 cities already.
1790 BC - Orleans drops to size 1, the must have whipped another defender.
1750 BC - Our elite warrior, barely beats a French archer on attack. He dies in the French counter attack.
1725 BC - We lose 1 archer, but take Orleans. France is still alive somewhere, since it could be a respawn in South America, I get a peace treaty gaining $100, and a worker. I was right, France cracked the whip. Orleans frozen at size one for a while, but we have a source for Iron [dance]
1700 BC - Greece forms a city close to my target for our settler.
1675 BC - OK, wish me luck, I am going to try the good hut.
[dance] The Gepid tribe teachs us mysticism.
I spot England, and sell them Mysticism for the whole treasury, $49. I am surprised I can't sell them any communcations. Nice good hut, wasn't it?
I then sell it to Rome for there whole treasury, $54.
Greece can only offer $13, so why bother?
1625 BC - :eek: Russia is already on our doorsteps. I spot minsk. They are broke, techno losers.
1600 BC - Hamburg is formed. A second source of future Iron. It is near Greece, so it starts a temple. I buy wheel from France, I might as well know where the horses are. That WILL affect the choice for my next city.
1550 BC - Well I know the next war target, Greece.
1525 BC - Well back to normal - angry warriors from a goodie hut.
1500 BC - The Greeks are moving away from the double horse spot [party]
1475 BC - Russia secures an eventual source of horses, I don't know where the greek settler went. England ALREADY completes the colossus.
1450 BC - We have wines on-line. The people are drunk. Greece switch to the Pyramids.
1350 BC - Orleans can finally grow, now that the wines are connected.
:eek: England knows about Egyptians, Indians, Persians, Babylonians, and Chinesse already.
Interesting, France hasn't a clue, yet.
Give England $80 for communcations with the world.
Give Rome $45 for just the Zulu. That price is a bit high.
Of course, we sell it right back - England gives us $18, Greece $14
Babylon is incredibly backwards and broke.
Thank god, Persia doesn't have Iron yet.
Buy horseback riding from France for $64.
1325 BC - I buy writing from Zululand for $125. The AI is already building the Great Library :(
France has some cash. I sell France writing for $64 (Hmm..., isn't that what I just paid for horseback riding?)
I buy literature from Zululand for $65 & $1/turn.
Berlin switches to Great Library.
1225 BC - Why I pushed 20 turns, Konigsberg is formed, we have horses [party]
1200 BC - :( Berlin should have been build a space south, as is it NOT considered on a river.

Summary - Iron being connectted in 2 spots. More workers heading toward Konigsberg to connect the horses.
Once done, slice and dice in Europe.
GL due in 10 turns. That will let us ignore science until the middle ages

xrang the II
Feb 25, 2002, 10:58 AM
so...it's open? if not you know that you can change (wow!) the Thread subject...

joespaniel
Feb 25, 2002, 04:58 PM
I am taking over! :whipped:

;)

I got your PM donsig. I will do my best.

donsig
Feb 25, 2002, 06:16 PM
Open games tend to move along faster and can accomodate more than the customary 5 or 6 players.

Sorry for over-stepping your play preTzel_22. I thought you had started a new game and was e-mailing it around. Didn't realize you were playing the 2710 BC sav that was posted!:blush:

What's the word on setting up turns versus leaving it an open game?

This game has lots of potential. I hope you're all still here to play!!

xrang the II
Feb 25, 2002, 06:31 PM
I will play the game even if it's open...I'll play like it's closed...that didn't make sense, now did it...I personally think it should be closed. But that my 31,000 Turkish lira (aka $00.02). I'll play whenever you want me to!



-Richard

joespaniel
Feb 25, 2002, 07:04 PM
Not much sense in a summary, heres what I did:

Great Library finished.

Established embassies with Greece, Rome, Russia and England.

Finished temples in some cities, others close.

Started swordsmen and horsemen in cities with temples and barracks.

Established the city of Liege, which needs a temple ASAP!!!
It will flip to England without one.
The next player should change it to library, I didnt think of that in time. It will be finished faster, and generate more culture.

Sold writing to China and Egypt for a total of 76 gold. They are both backwards in tech.

Renamed our cities. :D

joespaniel
Feb 25, 2002, 07:06 PM
Military build up is underway. We need alot more troops.

The Romans should be our first target! They must go!

donsig
Feb 25, 2002, 07:37 PM
Still there xrang? If you are just grap the game and play now. Post and let us know you're playing. In an open game you have to step up and play when you can!;)

xrang the II
Feb 25, 2002, 08:58 PM
I'm playing. 24 hrs...be there! thanx donsig 4 the heads ^!

PreTzeL_22
Feb 25, 2002, 09:53 PM
Hmmm... seems this game is leaving me behind :( (I can only get on once a day for half and hour... that's if the computer works... :( sigh) Ohwell.

When I wrote the title of this thread I actually meant 'open spots', not 'open game as in anyone can play'. Ohwell. (that's how I seem to finish every paragraph these days. Ohwell.)

Anyway, to phrase it bluntly, this game is closed (BANG). No new peoples to join.

Also, since I hardly get the chance to visit this thread, would somebody be able to post a roster and update it. If so, thank you in advance (sounds a bit cynical... Ohwell (bang! falls over and starts gagging, people in the background cheer).

by the way
This game has lots of potential. Somebody likes this game. Golly. That just makes my day, no really, I though nobody liked it. I'm touched :love: .

xrang the II
Feb 25, 2002, 10:01 PM
The updated roster is:

donsig
joespaniel
me (xrang)
lkendter
EmprorCoopinius

EmprorCoopinius
Feb 25, 2002, 10:08 PM
Me, me, the game starter. :goodjob:

joespaniel
Feb 25, 2002, 10:23 PM
When you name it "open SG" that means anyone can play.

;) Just for future reference.

xrang the II
Feb 26, 2002, 11:31 AM
Listen, I have an idea (first time for everything):
I'll start a new thread and I'll entitle it 'German Succession Game on World Map'. I'll then cut 'n' paste each turn summary that has been completed in order. A player roster and turn order will be done as well. So think of the turn order and I'll be posting tonight!:scan:

PreTzeL_22
Feb 26, 2002, 03:19 PM
When you name it "open SG" that means anyone can play


Geez! I know alright! Stop addressing me like I'm dimwitted!
:mad: It was just a mistake!

By the way, just bein' funny :D

The updated roster is: blablabla
Oh great, I don't suppose I get to play... :mad: :(

I'll start a new thread and I'll entitle it 'German Succession Game on World Map'

Fine by me.

donsig
Feb 26, 2002, 03:47 PM
If you start a new thread would you please post a link to it on this one?

xrang the II
Feb 26, 2002, 07:39 PM
Turn 1, 800 BC
Indians are building The Pyramids. MMOW (Management of Workers). Since Rome is our next target Veteran Archer outside Bucharest moves to ‘the front’. Warrior and Swordsman both are moved to ‘the ‘front’. I’ve changed the production of two cities that were producing Horseman to Swordsman.

Turn 2, 775 BC
Our prophets have mastered the secret of Polytheism while we were trying for Construction, kewel.

Turn 3, 750 BC
Berlin produced Temple...now Swordsman. Innsbruck completed Barracks, perfect for the new Spearman. Greek Hoplite and Settler are both by Bucharest...not anymore.

Turn 4, 730 BC
The Greeks are still moving in our territory but before I tell them, our great sages have discovered Map Making, another kewel. I told Alexander to get out and he did without a scratch. MMOW.

Turn 5, 710 BC
Alexander wants a territory map and 27 gold...I know we could take him down so I say no. Our prophets have discover Currency! Alborg produced Swordsman, now Galley so that we can explore. Swordsman moved to the front. MMOW. We’re waiting for Innsbruck’s Spearman then we’re OFF TO WAR!

Turn 6, 690 BC
Berlin produced Swordsman, now Library. Some unit movement.

Turn 7, 670 BC
The French (?) Have requested an audience...they want a territory map for our world map. We accept. Am I dreaming things? The French, I thought were destroyed...now they’re down south somewhere. PLEASE clear this up for me... Krakow has produced Swordsman now Granary.

Turn 8, 680 BC
Innsbruck has produced Spearman! WARTIME! Innsbruck is now producing Granary. Bucharest has produced Temple, now Granary. MMOW.

Turn 9, 630
The English have requested an audience..they want 70 gold, World Map, and Map Making for their messily World Map. NO WAY! The Chinese wants territory map and 25 gold for their territory map. OK. The invasion force has assembled! Let the war begin! MMOW.

Turn 10, 610 BC
Caesar doesn’t like that we’ve moved into position...TOO BAD! War is declared on Rome. Berlin made Library, now Marketplace. Alborg has produced Galley now Granary. The Iroquois have completed the Pyramids. The first battle of Rome was won by Veteran Swordsman against Spearman. The second battle of Rome goes even better, Vet Swordsman defeats Spear. The third and last battle of Rome was won and we now control Rome! There’s one resister in Rome, a Warrior will take care of that. Troops are moving to Cumae. MMOW. Galley does some exploration.

Turn 11, 600 BC
Ghandi offers us contact with the Japanese for 11 gold, we take it. Tokugawa wants territory map for our territory map, ok. A Roman Warrior in the Alps is hiding I take him out with Sword.

That’s all, for now! I'll make a new thread btw with a link to this one and Pretzel will be in the roster list

donsig
Feb 26, 2002, 07:50 PM
I'm not sure about the French. Do civs respawn like in Civ II?

It is customary for the first post to list the playing order and should be updated to always reflect whose turn it is.:)

xrang the II
Feb 26, 2002, 08:01 PM
Could someone tell me the player order? I made the new thread...

LKendter
Feb 26, 2002, 08:02 PM
France did respawn.

Did you see all my references to trading with France????

Please post a link to the new thread in this one ;)

xrang the II
Feb 26, 2002, 08:09 PM
Here is the location...player order anyone? Please, the post looks like crap! Nothing's there!
German Succession Game on World Map (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15889)

joespaniel
Feb 26, 2002, 10:33 PM
Xrang, you posted a link to this same thread.

This is the correct link:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17334

donsig
Feb 26, 2002, 10:43 PM
Here is the order played so far:

Empror Coopinius
donsig
lkendter
joespaniel
xrang the II

PreTzel_22 started the thread, played a round but wasn't able to post the sav. I then played the same he had played. (I offer my apologies for that again.)

We could keep this order and it would be PreTzel_22's turn.