Deity Huge Map – Conquest only.

It’s been a while since I played a real Deity game. And It’s also been a while since I last played on a Huge map. Probably for both more than a year (or even more) ago. It’s time to do that, so I’ll play a Deity level game, Huge random map, as the Iroquois and with the only possible victory being conquest.

I like screenshots more than text, so not a lot of text from me. The screenshots will hopefully be sufficient in itself. Click on them to enlarge.

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^ Start is good, so I settle on the spot. 1st tech: Ceremonial Burial on lowest speed to minimise the chance of getting a cheap tech from a hut. I choose a granary for early settlers. I won't win with units, nor techs; but with enough settlers and land I have a chance. In the same time I build up some money that I can use in trading and for embassies -if it doesn't get demanded away.

3450 BC: Meet dark red guys. Hello Byz. I can’t trade with her yet as all her techs are too expensive and mine, well, non-existent.


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^ This sucks !! Instead of my settler factory going to size 3 it went to size 2. This forces me to build an in-between warrior to let Salamanca grow again.


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^ And this sucks as well; a lot of money gone. 37 gold


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^ Sparta builds the Colossus in 2350 BC – not that early; I expected it to be build earlier. Perhaps the AI doesn't have really good land. I do have good lands.

I meet Egypt in 1870 BC . We do this trade:
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It doesn't take long for the first demand to happen. It's the Byz who mean Bis.
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But some good trading can be done as well :) (yes I know it's expensive; but my money will be demanded away anyway... ) And I didn't find any huts either, so the CB-gamble did not pay off.
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^ The good news is: I can block off Theadora completely. And since there are no others on this siode of the blockade; My fertile and large land is virtually uncontestedly mine !! :) I can freely expand Southwards and Eastwards. Not until Mapmaking can my lands be claimed by others. Unfortunately on Deity that doesn't take long.

There is a disadvantage with blocking off the AI. Especially on the setting "raging Barbarians".
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^ In 1500 BC I get a lifesign from the others. Also: notice that I am building curraghs and see how fertile my lands are in my core. Also: notice the warrior about to plunder Tonawanda -again-


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^ This is interesting !! Rubble north of Chalcedon. If this means the Byz and the Egy's are at war than I am in a good position.


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^ Especially when I spot borders to my south. My 20 turn gpt payment to Egypt is nearing its end so I might be able to pull something off here. Especially when I see the Aztecs lack Alphabet :) V
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I spot a n-fer-1 in 1300 BC. V
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When the time is right I will take it. And the time will soon be right.

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^ And when finally the payments end in 1200 BC I strike. The Byzantines (tech leaders) also have Mapmaking, but I don't have enough money yet to get that. The cost might go down with an Embassy, so:

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No, not enough. Then I'll scrape more cash still.
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Still not enough to break her monopoly on Mapmaking so I buy Maths of Egypt.
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:mad: Still not enough. Oh well; I’ll just drain the AI then.
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And the cash is used on:
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http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/8323/0323dw.th.jpg (http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0323dw.jpg)
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/5937/0338lh.th.jpg (http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0338lh.jpg)
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/6630/0347fh.th.jpg (http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0347fh.jpg)

Which results in this information: V

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I like what I see !! War between the AI. But not for long as the next turn I get this pop-up: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/036.JPG
Oh well.

And now begins a large period of building. I fill my land and build up my military. I research towards The Republic, noticing that the AI I know don't have Philosophy yet. And the unexpected happens. It really does.

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/6839/0422qk.th.jpg (http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0422qk.jpg)

:eek: WTF ?? I researched Philosophy first. On DEITY. And after going on a 50 turn ceremonial burial research first ... :eek:
I chose Code of Laws as free tech (although it wasn’t the most expensive tech) because I really want to be in Republic ASAP. And when I get in Republic I want my Golden Age.
I trade the techs around to prevent demands.

I continue my buildling up. Settlers, Mounted Warriors, workers, barracks, the usual stuff. My research is 70% onto Republic. I can't do a higher setting (despite me having 1318 gold in 775BC) as I only havre 1 luxury.
My blockade is compromised with a Byzantine Spear-Settler landing in my backyard. V

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^ The purple circles were my planned cities. The dark-red circle is the site the Byz settler goes to. It doesn't -really- interfere with my pattern.


I meet Carthage in 730 BC. He's to the West of Egypt, Northwest of Byzantium and he’s not doing well. V

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A suicide curragh (promoted to elite by barbarians) tries to suicide to unexplored lands. It sinks. V

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Byz demands 84 gold. I'm gladly paying it as a 20-turn deal usually stops war. To prevent a too early war I buy Byz dyes for Incense + 7gpt.

A different Curragh meets the Maya, who are directly north of Egypt. I had spotted their borders a lot earlier, but my curragh couldn't survive 3 barb galleys. I make a good trade for Polytheism. V

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I also sign a 20-turn with my southern neighbour, the Aztecs.

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Things are looking excellent, when you look at my F11 screen. Number 1 in the most important cathegories. on DEITY !!! V

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Of course; it couldn't last ...

Woah, this thread is going really fast. Did you already finish the game, and are you writing the story based on old saves/screenshots?

I played yesterday till about 190 BC. I'm now writing the story.

Wow, great! Waiting for more... BTW, I always forget what I did in the game if I don't write the story immediately after playing.

Ooooo Deity. Good luck and happy pwning. :thumbsup:

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OH NO !! - I am weak compared to her. This is not good. And she broke our dyes deal for that - I think. Fortunately she doesn't have a lot of units close to my lands. Only her 2 colonies have some free units they use. No real damage though. And then it's my turn: V

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I still need help. I'm buying in Egypt (on Byz flank) to assist me. V

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Look at the size of my pitiful army:

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And on top of that; this happens ....

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And Aztec swords landed in my lands and they aren’t there to help me. I sign a gpt for gold deal + MA’s against my enemies and then demand them to leave. ... Go away !!

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Oh oh... :help:
I do kill the Aztec units easily. But I need to keep them busy and I need to stop more enemies coming in. So I make some deals:

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In order to get the Maya and the Carthaginians on my side; I build embassies. V

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And of course I do this:

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Will that be enough ??? Only time will tell. Only time will tell. I hope. Or do I ??? :sad:

Nice update. Can't wait til the next one. :goodjob:

With their help and Golden Age production I repel all attacks and conquer my east. The unpleasant thing is that I have (part of) my Golden Age wasted in Despotism. And Leader-fishing is not succesful.

In 270 BC I conquer the annoying Byz city in my flank.

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If it keeps going so well; I’ll try to capture a part of Byz core.

But I really really dislike that I have The Republic-tech and I am in Golden Age, but I can't use it as the anarchy would kill me. The MA's are preventing me from making peace first as I cannot afford to have a shattered reputation either. Thus I am forced to enjoy a Despotic Golden Age. :(

I have no MA’s against the Aztecs and I want out of this war quickly; so I make peace with them in 250 BC, earning me 40 gold. I'd rather not think about how much this cost me... I buy Furs of him for my Incense + 7 gpt.
The Next turn I learn Literature.

And my Forbidden Palace finishes.

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If only I could enjoy the Golden Age with a Forbidden Palace in Republic instead of Despotism. The Golden Age is nearly over (about 6 turns remaining) so if I revolt now, I get an anarchistic Golden Age and perhaps 0 turns Republican Golden Age. ** SIGH **

I'll take it out on the Byzantines.

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My plan is to fight and conquer / raze the Byzantines till the moment I can make peace without breaking MA's. Then revolt to The Republic. And then we'll see.

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I will not have time to play soon, so this is the last update this week.

Wow your really flying through the updates here! Good stuff, Deity is where the game starts to get interesting for sure.

Wow tons of updates. :D

I see some ICS in your core... Is this what you should do on deity?

Arent the Byzantine walls annoying? Or do your Mounted Warriors seem to not notice? ;)

Mr. David: It's what I am using in the game, and then only in several regions. It's not a "must do", it's a choice. I actually wanted a loose build as I will be playing a long time in the modern age due to "Space race" and "Diplomacy" victories disabled.

Ansar: The only Byz city I attacked I conquered on the first turn. It seems my MW's are not impressed by walls.

Great updates! Good luck with the game!

:bump::bump:

But I really really dislike that I have The Republic-tech and I am in Golden Age, but I can't use it as the anarchy would kill me. The MA's are preventing me from making peace first as I cannot afford to have a shattered reputation either.

Help a noob, here. What's an MA?

Rik is probably talking about a Military Alliance against another civ. Those are supposed to last for 20 turns, and if you make peace early, you suffer a reputation hit. (I think your former ally immediately becomes furious with you, or something like that.)

In this case MA means Military Alliance. But it can mean Middle Ages or Modern Armor.

Thanks. I still struggle with some of those HOCA's

(hopelessly obscure Civ acronyms)

Like what you just posted? :p

Update lurking anywhere, Rik??

Military alliances.

It's now tuesday-noon for me. The first chance of playing some turns is wednesday-night. And I'm not even sure I will play then (unless it's with my girlfriend ;) )
Let's take it slow, but extensive. :)

Rik is probably talking about a Military Alliance against another civ. Those are supposed to last for 20 turns, and if you make peace early, you suffer a reputation hit. (I think your former ally immediately becomes furious with you, or something like that.)


Also, all other AI that have contact with the one you broke the deal with will hear of your reputation as a "cheat and a liar," and will be less likely to make deals with you.

Go Rik!

Marsden: I try to honor my deals for 2 main reasons.
1: As soon as you broke a deal you can count on it that no AI will sign deals with you again, unless it really really favors them.
2: I play honorably because that is my style. I don't use exploits, dastardly acts etc. A deal is a deal for me.

I've played yesterday night a lot of turns and I'll be updating this thread in a couple of hours. -I hope-

Unfortunately my last chances for quick contact sink. This means I'm stuck with who I know for the next hundreds of years. They are my "friends".
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And this is no way to make friends V

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I reach the middle ages in 110 BC with the discovery of Currency. I am the only one there; the others are -far- behind. I go for Feudalism, slowly.

With still 4 more turns to go before I can cancel all military alliances; I move towards Constantinople. V

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9530/0704rm.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0704rm.jpg)


The attack fails. I retreat while my Golden Age ends in 30 bc. In 10 BC all MA's expire and I sign this peacedeal:

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can get Hercalaea or Septum for peace. Although Heraclea has more value it is a bad choice. It is in Constantinople’s first ring and it will flip back immediately.

I also sign peace with the Hittites and traded for a luxury with Egypt.
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And then: REVOLUTION !!!

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Almost immediately: :mad:

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Goodthing I didn’t keep my army in the city. Bad thing it happened just before I was too abandon it (frankly I forgot to do it).

The Aztecs smell blood and my weakness- they demand Literature from me during Anarchy in 10AD. I give in, despite thinking: "I can’t give away a monopoly tech.... Although; the Byz have it. I concur then.".
I also sell them Polytheism for their Iron + 65 gold. A 20turn deal is a way to increase the chances of lasting peace.
But the Aztecs are not only bad; they are still at war with the Byzantines. They manage to capture Adrianople. V

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In 70 AD the anarchy ends and the Iroquois Republic is founded. Quickly builds finish and with many cities with (or working on) libraries, courthouses and markets; I use my big cities like Salamanca on Wonders. Goal #1 = Leonardo's. Goal #2 = Sun Tzu.

In 150 AD my furs deal with the Aztecs end, I trade them The Republic for their furs + a worker. This is again to keep them friendly.

170 AD: Feud comes in. As the Byzantines reached the Middle Ages, they got a tech for free - Engineering. A trade is made. Next tech: Invention

I disband Ganogeh as it is too crowded in my core. V

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After trading for the Byz free tech; I decide to gift –weak- Greece into the MA for their free tech. They get Engineering. Not good.

Relative uneventful turns pile up. I build markets, libraries and courthouses and I build up units in cities that already have those buildings. Salamanca is on a Wonder Pre-build. The good news is that the Byzantines keep losing -and retaking- cities. V

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In 300 AD Invention is learned and I set research to near 0 on Gunpowder. I switch Salamanca to Sun Tzu. – mainly for denial. I don’t have techs (or money) to upgrade my MW’s yet. Carthage and the Byz make peace in 310 AD. And I make war in 320 AD.

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This one I will fight alone. But I do extend some luxury deals.
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YES !!
I raze the city and already have a new settler in place. V

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I raze Heraclea and capture Trebizond. V

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Here goes my chance to ever capture the Great Library. It’s too far into sea to be able to use galleys and better ships need Astronomy or Navigation, which both require education which cancels the Great Library. V

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But I don't really need it. I am tech leader. As the below screenshot also indicates. I win the race for Sun Tzu. V

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That means I can safely trade Feudalism around. I've killed the Wonder cascade, so I can safely asume Leonardo's will be mine as well.

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This is a lot safer way to claim land. Nearly no flip-risk. V

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Remember Trebizond ??? I captured that city a few turns ago and ... : V

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To be honest: was expectable. I’ll stick to razing from now on. Also notice the settler on the southern coast; it will build a city there soon. Also: notice the stack of MW's on the mountain near Constantinople. They are ready to strike Constantinople.

The update of that is here:

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:)

Gunpowder is learned in 440 AD. There is Salt in my lands (previous Byz lands) but not connected yet. The next level of War weariness kicks in.

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The war goes slowly and in 460 AD I decide to call it a day and offer peace. Next goal: Leonardo’s ; cavalry and strike again. In the meantime I’m going to try to contact the others by galleys. Later on by caravels.

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I am already preparing the next war with the Byzantines. The war of their destruction. West Coast - For now is located so I can reach Nicea quickly, with Mounted Warriors or cavalry. V

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Here a view of my lands a couple of turns after the war. Chemistry is learned, on to Military Tradition (ignore the "monotheism" choice in the shot). I'm building galleys, libraries, granaries, harbors, markets and units. V

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And this is really cool !! V

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In preparation of launching the decisive Iro-Byz war I do some trades. Mainly to get possible interferers off my back. The 23 gpt was a bit overdone and it did hurt me later on.

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Because when Metallurgy came in and I went for Military tradition I had to keep it at such a high level of research that I went virtually bankrupt. I needed to research so quickly to have Military tradition around when the Byz and I started fighting again.

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Signing some deals to scrape in cash. Notice my cash-flow and research-rate. :eek:

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While I was just taking care of business of giving the Byzantines a 1 way ticket to kingdom-come I get this message. It seems I am not the only aggressor in the world. I didn't even get to meet them.

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At the beginning of the attack, the world battlefield looks like this. The Western Mounted Warriors attack force will strike at Nicae and continue to Smyrna, while the Eastern Mounted Warriors attack force will assemble on the mountain and next turn strike at constantinople. They will then converge onto the last mainland Byz city of Chalcedon.

(I don't know what artist decorated Theadora .... :mischief: )

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Nicae falls immediately.

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Next turn:

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And the turn after:

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The Byzantines still have 1 city. Here:

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I'll sail towards there as this means there is some land there. I am really eager to get contact with the missing civs. And I am now ready for peace with the Byzantines. They refuse to talk. And they continue to refuse for many turns.

Random events. I trade Engieering cheap to Montezuma, to be able to use my Invention to get Monotheism. Plan is to go to Education ASAP to eliminate the Carthaginian Great Library and to get to Astronomy. I have several galleys ready in port to be upgraded. In the previous (and coming) turns I've lost nearly 90% of all galleys through sinking.

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Remember that Byzantine city up north ? In 740 AD I reach it and win a sea battle against a Dromon. This is my reward:

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/1706/1280qa.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1280qa.jpg)

The Portuguese. Perhaps they can help me further through tech-trading and resources-trading.

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/7663/1292kp.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1292kp.jpg)

I guess not .... :( Well, let's build an embassy with the Portuguese.

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/4992/1303ns.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1303ns.jpg)

:wow: Braga ??? BRAGA ??? Where is Lisbon ??? :eek:
And see the light-red borders in the Embassy screen. What on earth happened here ???? :confused: Time to find out !!

The red borders are of the Babylonians. He's a little backwards. What on earth has happened in this corner of the world ???

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3613/1318di.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1318di.jpg)

And that's about it for now; my money is drained to near 0 and I can't build an embassy.

Wow. Bands of updates. Makes up for all those days. :D

I finally can talk to the Byzantines. Peace is made.

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And furs are bought again from the Aztecs.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/133.JPG

I finally have enough gold to sign the Embassy with the Babylonians and immediately do so in 810 AD.

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/3131/1349qs.th.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1349qs.jpg)

:wow: What happened in this section of the world ? There have been really weird things going on. If you look good into the embassy-screenshot you'll notice something weird.

All units are veteran, but Babylon has no barracks.

I promissed to fight the Egyptians as soon as I had peace with the Byzantines. Due to a small click-error I ended my turn before that, so it's 1 turn after. But still: WAR
The Egyptians are weak compared to me, in the F3 screen.

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/6138/1356fs.th.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1356fs.jpg)

It takes some turns to walk through the jungle, but then:

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7223/1365yi.th.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1365yi.jpg)

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/2869/1370hj.th.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1370hj.jpg)

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/8624/1388qf.th.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1388qf.jpg)

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/2332/1401pt.th.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1401pt.jpg)

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Who can make me a nice dotmap out of this map ?

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4426/1390ej.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1390ej.jpg)

More to come later

By the looks of the walls, I'd say Babylon faced barbarians, thats why they built a lot of units...

Quite a wealth of updates. Good job on smashing the Byzantines!

Good job taking out the AI. The river in the last map is pretty strange-looking, I've never seen a river cross a one-tile choke point.

Ansar: possibly; but that doesn't explain why they have only veteran units, but no barracks.

Takeo: I'm not going to detroy them yet. I'm going to harvest their free scientific ability to obtain their free tech in the Industrial age.

Sima Qian: I hadn't seen it yet, but indeed a weird river.

I love those little Panama-like locations. I only wish the AIs did so I wouldn't have to destroy cities just to move them a tile or two to build my canal cities. I always thought Panama Canal ought to be World Wonder, perhaps allowing ships to move across one or two adjacent land tiles.

For those interested (or doubting the randomness of the map):
Map seed = 565080. Huge, 80% sea, Archipelago.

Great updates!:bounce: I read them all (finally).

Great updates!:bounce: I read them all (finally).Prepare for more updates soon. I played till 1330 AD last night. ;)

1330? Wow, this is gonna be one big update.:scan:

:wow: You're playing really fast. Or is it that I play really slow?:crazyeye:

Just 3 pages and game is almost done :dubious:
I usually can't play more then 20 turns, or I will forget about MM and other usefull stuff :crazyeye:

Some people in civ4 sections post one update serving the whole game...

But anyways, so this doesnt get [offtopic]

Update? :)

While my troops heal, I learn Education. I gift it to Carthage fairly quickly to cancel out the Great Library. They don't have Military tradition yet and I'd rather keep it that way. I start many cities on Universities. Research to Music Theory for Bach's. I am so far ahead tech-wise that I can afford this sidestep. I will make more sidesteps later on.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3047/1425qj.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1425qj.jpg)

And the Egyptians are getting it hard.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2726/1436jh.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1436jh.jpg)

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1876/1441na.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1441na.jpg)

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5019/1459rz.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1459rz.jpg)

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3402/1462pi.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1462pi.jpg)

Till death do us part - in 900 AD

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2744/1487wa.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1487wa.jpg)

Now is the time to buildup. Fortunately my scouting galleys meet others in 910 AD - in 2 locations.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7019/1498ko.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1498ko.jpg)

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9879/1505wz.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1505wz.jpg)

France is not so scary:

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6117/1512ps.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1512ps.jpg)

But look at the Mongols. Their city-list includes Lisbon, Oporto etc. And they appear strong.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5706/1529kb.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1529kb.jpg)

Time for an embassy with the Mongols.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1042/1535jg.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1535jg.jpg)

swords, MDI's, horses, all buildings ... http://67.18.37.17/2135/53/emo/nervous.gif - Could get ugly

What a start the Mongols have!
But the AI advantages at Deity can turn this start into a great one.

I learn Music Theory, start on Astronomy and build an Embassy in Paris.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6545/1554ub.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1554ub.jpg)

cats, pikes, knights, Wonders. Full happyness without any luxury ... 15 shields per turn. But pink borders in the south.

But the pink is not the pink of the Inca, whom I meet next.

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/2481/1561xf.th.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1561xf.jpg)

Same drill - meet, talk, compare situation and I build an embassy.

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4200/1578xn.th.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1578xn.jpg)

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/9023/1588cb.th.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1588cb.jpg)

They don't look as strong as the Mongols or the French.

Poor Babylonians ....

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/159.JPG

And poor me. (or is it poor Aztecs?? ) It's 970 AD

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/8776/1626tt.th.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1626tt.jpg)

It's the same turn I lear Astronomy in. I choose banking next. I want my economy florishing before I start to really conquer nations. Astronomy allows me to do sea-trades, so I do them.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2496/1656ge.th.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1656ge.jpg)

2 more luxuries -from weak nations- that allow me near 0% luxury-slider. But let's not forget the Aztec-war declaration. I'll let you show how much impaqt that declaration made to my buildqueues. Have a look:

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2139/1665hn.th.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1665hn.jpg)

I keep exploring of course. And I meet the mysterious pink civ. It's the Arabs.Despite them having only few cities; some of their cities are Sumerian cities.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/4184/1672nn.th.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1672nn.jpg)

Not that their capital scares me though..

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1917/1692ln.th.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1692ln.jpg)

Oh yeah, let's not forget the Aztec war declaration. Other nations decided to join.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5584/1700dn.th.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1700dn.jpg)

Honestly: I had nothing to do with that. See the Aztec galleys? We'll get back to them later. Just in case I had a cavalry SoD following their fleet just to make sure any units that landed were taken care of.

And I took another sidestep -> after banking I did Economics. Smith's is just nice to have.

This will be a good game competing with the mogols. :) They seem to be the strongest.

Economics is learned in 1080 AD. Navigation in 1120 AD. And here is the Aztec fleet again. Also visible are some sites in Egyptian lands that I lost to the Maya and the Byzantines. Not important.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/453/1710uj.th.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1710uj.jpg)

This is the route they took....

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6031/1724va.th.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1724va.jpg)

They were killed intantly. I used mainly elites for them, but STILL NO LEADER !!!

Navigation allows Ocean trade so I buy Incan silks for engineering and Mongolian spices (extra spicy :mischief: ) for Music Theory. I only used Music Theory because there were only 2 turns left on Bach's.

I also bought world maps from Portugal, Mongols and the Inca.

Ladies and Gentlemen; I present you: The world in 1140 AD

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/4540/1751hu.th.jpg (http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1751hu.jpg)

The Aztecs land another stack and:

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3296/1769dx.th.jpg (http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1769dx.jpg)

http://67.18.37.17/2135/53/emo/dance.gif :woohoo:

And quickly after that a 2 cav army is formed. I'm using only 2 as to keep the army transportable with Caravels.

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/6928/1771ln.th.jpg (http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1771ln.jpg)

Another sidestep on the tech-path is Free artistry. No use really; but I can afford it and Shake's is nice to have as well. Especially the Capital has many unused floodplain-tiles. It can grow so much bigger.

And my core still isn't impressed with the Aztec war declaration -at all- . The cities that are building cavs only build them because they already have all buildings they need.

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/387/1791bj.th.jpg (http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1791bj.jpg)

1160 AD - Printing Press learned - Democracy next.

1180 AD - luxury deals expire. Rebuy Portuguese Ivory for Theology and Greek wines for Monotheism.

1200 AD - Democracy is learned - Free artistry next.

And then suddenly in 1210 AD I get news from the Aztecs (my war-partner)

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3231/1841gy.th.jpg (http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1841gy.jpg)

So the cascades does:

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8158/1854vs.th.jpg (http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1854vs.jpg)

:lol: Mongol city of Lisbon ...

But I also have some activities on the Wonder-side of things.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/971/1867wk.th.jpg (http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1867wk.jpg)

Other than that, not much is happening. Free artistry comes in in 1240 AD (as planned). Inca declare on the French in 1250 AD. This happens in 1255 AD.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/6816/1899qr.th.jpg (http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1899qr.jpg)

I micromanage Salamanca for food - lots of it - and steal tiles from cities around it.
In 1265 AD Physics is learned. I notice the Mongols already have Magnetism and I am too lazy to research it as well. So I make this deal.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/2833/1918ke.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Which leads to the Industrial age in 1290 AD, with the discovery of Theory of Gravity. Let's have a look at the power graph of the moment.

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/482/1931yj.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1931yj.jpg)

I decided to gift the Scientific civs into the Industrial age with me. Babylonians, Greeks and Byzantines are very backwards, some are even still in the ancient age, missing Masonry .... :eek:

Byzantines get Nationalism.
Greece gets Medicine.
Babylon is still ancient .... he gets STEAM !!! :)
Byz doesn’t want to sell her Nationslism to me. I buy Steam from the Babylonains for all contacts they lack, All optional techs (except economics and military tradition), and Saltpeter, dyes and incense + 473 gpt. This is one of the worst deals I've ever made.

I get Medicine for all contacts + steam + optional techs (not economics or Mil trad) horses, dyes, incense and 13 gpt from teh Greeks.

I have Coal enough and connected as well. I had already repositioned my workers around my capital so they get busy straight away.

And some trades:

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2024/1956hd.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1956hd.jpg)

That's the Koreans. I didn't realise there were more civs around. Let's look at their capital.

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2237/1962bf.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1962bf.jpg)

Ain't that cute ??? BUT it's WRONG!! don't be ancient age technology in a conquest-only game. :rolleyes:

I do gift them into the Industrial age for their free tech. Steam - I already have that....

Now, do you still remember the Aztec war declaration of 970 AD?? I'm finally beginning to build cavalry + galleons + settlers + rest of the stuff to wipe them off their island.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2127/1978su.th.jpg (http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1978su.jpg)

In 1320 AD I learn Industrialism and the war-effort gets another setback due to the need for factories. I'm sorry Aztecs, you'll have to wait a little longer for your destruction. Also the Military academy is completed in 1330 AD.

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And now I've run out of updates. Playtime again

Hmm, is Tyendenaga really going to get that aqueduct in your last screenshot? It doesn't seem like a size 5 city in the middle of an ICS-like section of your territory would need it, especially when other cities around it are starving, but I suppose you have your reasons for it.

Love the bunches of updates. You should really think about eliminating the Aztecs.

Yes it will. It can get enough food from irrigated plains to grow above size 6 - allowing more specialists and a reduced unit-support cost.

You are the most powerful in the world!!!
1330 is a great year.

That's around when stocktracker beat his monarch game. :lol:

Updates? :)

In fact I mean that it has a historical meaning for Romania and for me, because I won my first game in that year (Chieftain - Conquest, 4 months ago)
Yes, stocktracker won his Monarch game in 1380 AD.

I got up to 1445 AD. Will create an update soon (-ish).

:woohoo: then! :D

Still doing the build up of my nation. Research set to nearly 0 on electricity. I use the cash to cash-rush factoried in my core and culture in my north. And a lot of workers are ordered up to railroad my lands. And to mine irrigations or irrigate mines. Salamanca is full time on Army-production.
But not every nation does the same thing. Some are preparing for (or already active in) war. Carthage and Byz sign a Mutual Protection Pact in 1330 AD. Good, that saves me 1 declaration later on. In 1350 AD the Babylonians declare on Portugal.

In 1365 AD I finish an important Wonder.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3839/2020yy.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2020yy.jpg)

1370 AD - Byz and Aztecs sign a trade embargo against us. Big deal; I am at war with the Aztecs (and will never make peace with them) and the Byz are as good as dead anyway.

This is a lot less fun.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8674/2049ke.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2049ke.jpg)

Once every 200 years some Aztec forces land near my stack of elite cavalry.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4742/2053cu.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2053cu.jpg)

In 1390 AD Byz and Babylon sign an MA against Portugal. And in 1405 AD Carthage follows the dog-pile on Portugal.

This is unpleasant, but insignificant for the large picture. I would have liked to have it, but not having it is not bad. Especially since the Greeks are reduced to 2 core cities + some island colonies.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8069/2085wb.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2085wb.jpg)

I decided to pay the Portuguese some useful stuff for their wars. His "It's cutting my throat" - remark is probably referring to the dog-pile on him, not the cost of my Saltpeter, Metallurgy etc. I gave him Military Tradition as well.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8867/2109dk.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2109dk.jpg)

In 1415 AD I secure wines from the Hittites. Obsolete techs are so nice to have. :)

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5531/2121wi.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2121wi.jpg)

Unimaginable Bastard !!!!!

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4646/2131mm.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2131mm.jpg)

The Aztecs are showing their favourite landing place to the Mongols. :lol:

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2329/2148de.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2148de.jpg)

Cornplanter shows the Mongols why it is a bad place to land.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3082/2150yi.th.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2150yi.jpg)

He is turned into an army. My stategy will be to upgrade some muskets to Infantry and place them in armies. I will ship my Inf armies and cannon and cavalry to a mountain in Aztec lands. The ships will return and pick up a stack of cavalry, settlers, workers and other useful units. I will raze all Aztec cities - except the last ones when the flip risk is reduced.

So in 1440 AD Replacable parts is learned and I can't upgrade because I have no Rubber. The only available rubber is reachable, but I need Carthaginian help, so I do this deal and after that I walk a settler + defense + workers through the Marshes. I also took the chance of obtaining Nationalism.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8523/2182qs.th.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2182qs.jpg)

The attack on the Aztecs (who are still strong compared to me) will start as soon as I have Infantry armies. War is just around the corner.

Nice. Should have signed an alliance with somebody to help take out the Hitties while you worry about the Mongels

Nah; I'm going to do it alone from now on. Only if I am under threat of dying I'll ask for help. Since my death isn't very likely I don't think I'll sign an alliance anymore in this game.

I am now in 1510 AD. War with the Aztecs has seen some (ok a lot) action. I hope to write an update tomorrow.

:woohoo: Great! Good luck!

I am now in 1510 AD. War with the Aztecs has seen some (ok a lot) action. I hope to write an update tomorrow.
:woohoo: More action! :woohoo:

There are some random war declarations, MA's and peaceoffers flying around, when suddenly:

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2695/2213ap.th.jpg (http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2213ap.jpg)

(Red colored means = riotting.)

Time to buy more luxuries !!

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/222.JPG

And even more, 1 turn later.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/225.JPG

Here you can see the Mongols learned the lessons the Aztecs taught them; they land in the perfect place to be annihilated. Also spot the city-location of my soon-to-be rubber city. In the northeast you can see a Byz and a Maya city in former Egypt. Back to them later.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2040/2266qs.th.jpg (http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2266qs.jpg)

In 1460 AD the Byzantines choose unwisely. And Sanitation is learned. I'm still sidestepping ... Espionage is next.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/8619/2281tm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And the Mongols follow the Aztec example.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8950/2299xt.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2299xt.jpg)

The Byz are no match.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7274/2308xf.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2308xf.jpg)

And then, the Wonderful year 1465 AD.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/120/2321ic.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2321ic.jpg)

And I also like 1470 AD.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4494/2338sz.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2338sz.jpg)

But I don't think the Portuguese like 1475 AD...

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6803/2340bq1.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2340bq1.jpg)

1480 is a busy turn as my fleet sets sail.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9395/2357bs.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2357bs.jpg)

And my invasion force lands in 1485 AD. 104 units. The core is 3 Infantry armies and 4 Cavalry armies (formed after landing so they could be transported with Galleons. And of course they aren't attacked as they have undamaged armies outside cities.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/452/2363cq.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2363cq.jpg)

It's PARTY TIME !!!

That's some awful terrain the Aztecs have there. Are you going to raze most of it?

:bounce:Great!
Wasn't Ivory too expensive?

2 cities are razed, but my objective of getting my city spot (marked with a red circle) out of the green cultural borders isn't achieved. So Instead I move a settler (+ an Inf-army) to it. When the city is build next turn I can attack Tzin + rush a harbor (by sacrificing an Aztec slave and cashrushing) to connect it to my traderoute. The turn After I plan to Slave-abandon/cashrush a barracks there.

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/2039/2371gr.th.jpg (http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2371gr.jpg)

Here you see the plan in motion. Azteca Grand river is formed, Tzin razed and a settler + Inf-Army is send to Tzin's location to build a city that rakes in the furs. The fleet is send home to collect workers, workers, workers, settlers, and cavs.

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/863/2401zf.th.jpg (http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2401zf.jpg)

I plan to quickly raze as many towns as I can, until I see this and realise that I need my units close to counter the Aztec counter attack ...

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/586/2410gs.th.jpg (http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2410gs.jpg)

1500 AD. Espionage is learned, switch to Sci Meth. War weariness is already kicking in hard. Fortunately I connect furs. And my reinforecements are ready to be unloaded in Azteca Grand River next turn.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8205/2431pc.th.jpg (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2431pc.jpg)

What's this ???
Maya picking a fight ?? Aztecs have shown them where to land for maximum effect. I tell them to leave, but no.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3749/2444ld.th.jpg (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2444ld.jpg)

Fine, have it your way. I raze the city as it is too close to Mayaland.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4053/2463hc.th.jpg (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2463hc.jpg)

The Byzantines are OCC-ing on a completely Carthaginian island. Portugal used to be there. To get rid of the Byzantines I do this:

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/6621/2484jk.th.jpg (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2484jk.jpg)

The Mongols don't seem to like that ....

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/982/2502zm.th.jpg (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2502zm.jpg)

Meanwhile; in Aztec lands:

They blocked my harbour !!!!!! I can't unload and immediately use my reinforcements. I am forced to sail furhter south and unload manually into Aztec Fur town. That means I cannot use them this turn.

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/7906/2490cr.th.jpg (http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2490cr.jpg)

And see what my units are facing.

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/2284/2515xq.th.jpg (http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2515xq.jpg)

That wouldn't be so bad if War Weariness wasn't so terribly high yet. And I already have Universal Suffrage build. This is my capital:

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/2504/2520po.th.jpg (http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2520po.jpg)

Perhaps I'll be going Communistic a lot sooner than I anticipated. We will see. (Or is it: We will C) ??

Wow, even more updates!

:bounce:Great!
Wasn't Ivory too expensive?I am willing to pay a lot of gpt for luxuries for several reasons:
- 10% on the lux slider is about 200 gpt. If I can afford to spend 10% on luxuries by buying a luxury then that means that luxury is worth 199 gpt for me.
- I hate trade embargoes. Trading with the AI prevents them signing TE's on me.
- As long as I have deals with AI, they are not so likely to declare war on me.

I have played a session last night. So many dead ...

And you are getting 1000+ gpt. The Aztecs must be good at persuading. The mongolsjust do the same as them. :lol:

I try to get some war weariness down by making peace with other enemies. Only the Hittites and the Mongols want to make peace. Treaties signed.

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8652/2602gx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I can't really buy luxuries because of many trade embargoes against me. And then I notice this:

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/6661/2596hh.th.jpg (http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2596hh.jpg)

By having the Byz and Hittites at war with eachother, their Embargo ends, opening up Hittite wines for me. Worth a shot.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/261.JPG

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/262.JPG

Yes, it is expensive, but I prefer to pay in techs than in cash or gpt. Let them go to Democracy, I don't care.

Maya's get peace 1 turn later - in the IBT.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/263.JPG

And while we're at it in the F4 screen...

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/264.JPG

For some reason the Byzantines (2 cities on opposite ends of the map - actually only 1; they just lost their northern city to the Carthaginians) feel suicidal...

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/1223/2654hl.th.jpg (http://img445.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2654hl.jpg)

And I am again painfully reminded by the fact to NOT MAKE PEACE IN THE IBT !!!! :wallbash:

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/1365/2663lq.th.jpg (http://img445.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2663lq.jpg)

So: back to the Aztec war. The previous few turns I spend killing Aztec Ancient Age units around my cities, while shipping over mountains of workers, settlers, infantry and cavs. And a few turns later I get a success:

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/5466/2679qc.th.jpg (http://img445.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2679qc.jpg)

I then take it slowly on the military actions and use the next turn to heal, move and position myself. Not that nothing happens that turn though...

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/4295/2719eo.th.jpg (http://img445.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2719eo.jpg)

But the next turn is simply more entertaining:

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/4269/2737fl.th.jpg (http://img445.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2737fl.jpg)

Time for a fullscreen screenshot. I'm not researching because I am building Theory of Evolution.

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/5431/2741ag.th.jpg (http://img445.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2741ag.jpg)

Next turn:

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/5857/2799zk.th.jpg (http://img445.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2799zk.jpg)

Next turn:

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/383/2829lp.th.jpg (http://img317.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2829lp.jpg)

I kept some Aztec cities since I expect to get rid of the Aztec Empire quickly now. And if a city flips it isn't bad as I will leave no units inside cities at all.

Cattaraugus builds Intelligence agency. I buy Ivory again, at a really high price but I don't care. I have enough money and this way I virtually guarantee no trade Embargoes against me plus I have some certainty Carthage will not declare on me. Although; nothing is certain in Civ 3.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/284.JPG

Theory of Evolution finishes in Salamanca and the usual Atomic Theory and Electronics are chosen. Some more trades are done.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/289.JPG

I'm moving my fleet towards the last Aztec holdings. Of course; a former Aztec city flips, but is easily retaken. In the last picture of this update you can see the Aztec's last stand as well as my invasion fleet.

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/5745/2908rn.th.jpg (http://img317.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2908rn.jpg)

More later

And I am again painfully reminded by the fact to NOT MAKE PEACE IN THE IBT !!!! :wallbash:


Sorry, but I don't understand what your saying. Why was that bad?

Sorry, but I don't understand what your saying. Why was that bad?The MAya's declared on me, thus giving me War-happyness (= reversed War Weariness). By making peace with them the war-happyness vanished, thus making some happy citizens content or some content citizens unhappy. Since this was done in the In-Between-Turns phase (IBT) they count as "unhappy the previous turn" and since some of my unhappy citizens were "unhappy the previous turn" I get rioting in my cities.

Look at the screenshot of my city-list. RED-colored means riotting.

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/1365/2663lq.th.jpg (http://img445.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2663lq.jpg)

If I had waited with peace till it was my turn; the War-happyness would have been gone in my turn, thus giving me the possibility to change happyness-slider and hire specialists or buy luxuries to counter the unhappyness. By signing peace in the IBT I didn't give myself the chance to adjust happyness.

(OK, I could scroll ahead to other cities as soon as 1 city riotted and adjust them so that they wouldn't riot, but I see that as an exploit (or a dastardly act) and I generally refuse to do that).

But the next turn is simply more entertaining:

<snip>scenes of death and pillaging</snip>

Ah, the screams of the dying and the shackled! So sweet to my ears...

And in 2 turns:

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http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7408/2977md.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2977md.jpg)

Next target: Greece. Well, it was until they sign a MPP with the Inca with whom I have a luxury-deal. And I need luxuries as war weariness is very quickly on 50% due to razing of cities. So I decide to go for the Hittites instead. They are on the same island and also have wines. I'll use my single cavalries to conquer them as I don't have the tech for transports yet.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6884/2984bg.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2984bg.jpg)

The Corp is learned in 1585 AD. I continue in a quick pace towards Combustion and later on tanks.

In 1610 AD the wine-deal with the Hittites end and I do not resign peace. It's war. I sell my Atomic theory to the Mongols for Gems, Spices, Facism, WorldMap, 110 gpt and 998 gold - to be sure I have luxuries to counter war weariness and I land in Hittite lands. A couple of artillery; a mountain of cavs and 1 Infantry for defense. I expect no counterattack at all, so the Inf will not see a lot of action.

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/3717/3031vx.th.jpg (http://img309.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3031vx.jpg)

Sparta is captured without trouble.

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/5338/3044vd.th.jpg (http://img309.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3044vd.jpg)

And then it all goes wrong. I had a mountain of cavs on the Saltpeter hill next to Ugarit and it got slaughtered. And the Hittites are now advancing on Sparta. My 1 Infantry is seeing a lot of action.

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/8777/3053xw.th.jpg (http://img309.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3053xw.jpg)

I get refining in 1625 AD and a Great Military Leader in 1630 AD (after finishing a second Infantry in Sparta) so I form a 2 Inf army.

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/7421/3087lw.th.jpg (http://img309.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3087lw.jpg)

To no avail ... :(

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/2582/3096pq.th.jpg (http://img309.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3096pq.jpg)

So I'll wait till transports are possible so I can fight with Armies. I finish the Hoover Dam in 1630 AD and in 1635 AD I swallow my pride and sign peace.

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/8522/3118sd.th.jpg (http://img309.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3118sd.jpg)

But I WILL be back !! You WILL be assimilated !! :borg:

In 1645 AD I focus on getting factories, stock exchanges and other goodies finished in my cities. The cities that have all the required buildings build Wealth, to fund my research. I don't need that many Infantry when I have tanks and I certainly do no longer need cavalry. And I'm going to shun artillery - for fun. And of course Salamanca (@ 104 shields per turn) is on Armies.

I learn steel in 1645 AD - Combustion next.

1650 AD - Wall Street build.
1655 AD - The Corp sold to Carthage for Ivory. :shake: - I'm ruining the market :hammer2:
1660 AD - Fascism sold to the Inca for Silks, 11 gpt, 190 gold.
1670 AD - Combustion learned - Mass Production next.

And that's my cue !!

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4718/3179ed.th.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3179ed.jpg)

1690 AD - Mass Production learned - Motorized Transportation next.
1695 AD - I experiment with spies (frankly I had forgotten about them) - with mixed results.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5949/3229ji.th.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3229ji.jpg)

Now that I have transports and tanks are 4 turns away; I am not afraid of the Greek and the Hittites.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7149/3234kh.th.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3234kh.jpg)

And Kubilai "Warbucks" Khan sells me goodies.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4606/3240tl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Motorized Transportation is learned in 1710 AD. I'm starting to build tanks; but I won't need them for the Greek and Hittite Province. My 4 Inf armies + 3 cav armies suffice.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9158/3268zf.th.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3268zf.jpg)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4313/3271zx.th.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3271zx.jpg)

And I am using some left-over cavalry to take a Greek island to my south.

http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/8971/3284wg.th.jpg (http://img351.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3284wg.jpg)

A few turns later I make peace with 1CP Greece. I am still at war with the Hittites.

http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/9056/3328ti.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I know from the F3-screen that the Hittites are down to a handful of muskets. I use my spy to investigate whether Tarsus is up for grabs or not.

http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/9269/3309ev.th.jpg (http://img351.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3309ev.jpg)

Yes it is.

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I get to the Modern Age in 1745 AD due to discovery of Flight. I switch research to a 1 scientist - rate on Computers. I have some cashrushing to do in former Azteca, Former Hellas and Soon-to-be-Former-Hittitia. Not that that will last long. But sometimes it gets close. Just look at the 1 hitpoint left on my victorious cav-army. :eek:

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/8113/3351ld.th.jpg (http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3351ld.jpg)

I sell Carthage Atomic Theory for Ivory, 48 gpt and 434 gold. And I take Hattusha and Ugarit.

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/410/3387ap.th.jpg (http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3387ap.jpg)

Only Harran left, which is, unfortunately, not reachable in 1 turn. The Mongols are trying to steal technology from me, but failed and I Sell Communism to the Inca for silks, 24 gpt and 7 gold. Harran of course falls quickly.

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/2381/3424vc.th.jpg (http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3424vc.jpg)

1 turn later - a failed spy attempt:

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9453/3430jb.th.jpg (http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3430jb.jpg)

I had already decided that the Maya would be my next target. And after them, either the Carthaginians or the Babylonians.

I certainly did not do this !!!

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/344.JPG

I was careful to never break a deal with them or to force them into declaring on me due to MA's or MPP's. And I didn't try to put a spy in their capital. Oh dear... The Mongols...

And the Byzantines ...

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/345.JPG

Now; I had a fleet on it's way from the former Greek island to my south to the last Greek city on the planet. With the Mongol declaration and the Byzantine declaration the fleet was at the yellow-point. It turned back to land next to the last Byzantine city to take them out.

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/686/344a6jr.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=344a6jr.jpg)

I hit them hard and I got a leader, with an appropriate name.

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5584/3461xc.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3461xc.jpg)

But the Inca kicked the Byz out of the game, while I take a Mongol city on my southern border.

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/2362/3487oo.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3487oo.jpg)

Next target: Mongol island near last Greek City. And I am assembling a force to remove the Maya from the game. That all (and more) when we return in a couple of days.

You already own many islands!
Are you the most powerful in the world already?

In what way - most powerful ??
F8 - power-graph ??

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/9767/power4ld.th.jpg (http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=power4ld.jpg)

Yes, I mean power-graph.

I learn Computers in 1770 AD. I go for Miniturization for Offshore platforms and The Internet.

Maya's are no difficult target. Only their cities are too far apart for a 1 turn conquest.

http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/9817/3520ag.th.jpg (http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3520ag.jpg)

Inca's join in against us in 1776, costing us a silks-luxury. The forces that attacked the Byzantines now are ready for the Mongol city of Tes.

http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/6493/3551cn.th.jpg (http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3551cn.jpg)

For no reason at all the Arabs join the war against me. And the Babylonians also. I'm not worried.

http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/8316/3580nd.th.jpg (http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3580nd.jpg)

In the East of the picture you can see Arabian borders. What I'm going to do is: send fleets of transports + my armies (full and empty) + a mountain of workers, settlers and cruisers & battleships to Tes. I then airlift mountains on tanks to Tes and use that as a base for operations in Arabia, Korea (who also joined the war against me), Mongolia and the Inca.

Airport "Shenandoah" is build in a flash of an eye.

http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/4212/3593vk.th.jpg (http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3593vk.jpg)

I send a smallish stack to Arabia already for Guerilla tactics and to soften up the Arabs. This is not as nice as it looks; I don't have cities to form an army in.

http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/8458/3610pm.th.jpg (http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3610pm.jpg)

But I have enough power to raze the Arab Capital.

http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/9339/3627se.th.jpg (http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3627se.jpg)

In an unrelated event I finish SETI in Salamanca.
My Guerilla tank forces raze Damascus.

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9992/3644hg.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3644hg.jpg)

The Internet build in 1798 AD.

The relief troops show up.

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7841/3667jy.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3667jy.jpg)

While I research Rocketry, score some leaders and capture some cities, the world keeps turning.
This is how it all looks now.

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4867/3709rq.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3709rq.jpg)

:dance:Great job!

Go Rik!http://thelastwatch.org/forums/images/smilies/cheer.gif

Looking at the power graph I see the mongols are pretty powerful. It's pretty :rotfl: that Greece is still alive and they have the lowest score.

Might want to look out for Carthage too. They have the third most power (including you).

Greece is still alive! :lol:

What's that, Ansar? A smiley? I see it's not in the smiley database from CFC!

Rik, you're making it look too easy. Woot-woot!

("Woot-woot" is a Swahili word meaning "I'm totally jealous")

And we go on happily destroying the Arabs.

http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/5038/3716ac.th.jpg (http://img439.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3716ac.jpg)

Unfortunately the French culture uis quiet large compared to mine. Kufah flips. No problem. I had only fortified it with a token force. And perhaps we'll see our lost Jean-Pierre, Francois, Dennis, Joyce and Stefan and others again soon. Some day I will come over and release them out of the French hands, or whatever hands they are in. They'll have to be safe again back into Iroquois hands some day, but that will take some time.

http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/6132/3726ai.th.jpg (http://img439.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3726ai.jpg)

And in 1818:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1463/3748ia.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3748ia.jpg)

The plans for now are to build up forces, culture and simply the land in Iroquois Arabia, while some tanks and Mech Infs conquer the Inca island + some annoying pockets of Mongolian presence on small islands in the south of the map.
It's going easy at first.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4871/3768ci.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3768ci.jpg)

The only problem with the Inca-island is the forested tundra tiles. Mech Infs and tanks are reduced to 1 tile-movinge units. SO the campaign will last long. I had already experienced 60% war weariness in the -relatively short- Arabian war, so I expect some big WW against the Inca as well. But it's going easy at first.

It's going easy at first.

At first.

At first only.

Since suddenly:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/377.JPG

Oh no !! France literally has hundreds of units and my newly captured Arab lands are weakly-protected, to say the least. I need urgent countermeasures to stop the French.

But first things first. Greece had entered the war a few turns earlier. That was a stupid move, Alex.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/380.JPG

And I make some further gains in Inca's.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/381.JPG

But now the French. Look at them stacks !!! :eek: And to add injury to insult; my core is now riotting. Probably some luxuries deal that either expired or broken.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/382.JPG

The French are advancing with 273 units. To be Precise:
23 pikes
6 rifles
11 Medieval Infantry
10 Longbows
140 Infantry
56 Guerilla
8 Crusaders
12 Cavalry
7 knights.

That's a lot. I have around 50 tanks in the area. And about 18 Mech Infs. And a couple of armies; but by no means enough to stop the French. I hope I don't have to rely on anti-AI-moves such as the knowledge that AI won't attack armies in the field or baiting them with unreachable no-defense cities.

I'm going to have to think this one over.

I am willing to pay a lot of gpt for luxuries for several reasons:
- 10% on the lux slider is about 200 gpt. If I can afford to spend 10% on luxuries by buying a luxury then that means that luxury is worth 199 gpt for me.
- I hate trade embargoes. Trading with the AI prevents them signing TE's on me.
- As long as I have deals with AI, they are not so likely to declare war on me.
This is why I always read your comments. I knew about trading reducing war chances (tho I tend toward mercantilism and being the seller of goods rather than the purchaser). But I never calculated the cost-benefits of using the slider instead of sending in the clowns. That makes a lot of sense... It's sad to think that I'm certified to teach economics in high school.

Thank you for the compliment, BuckyRea.

Why does the AI always build so many infantry?:rolleyes:


btw, nice update! kill the frenchies!:devil:

Did you defeat the Greeks?

Oh and... Medieval Infantry, pikes and longbows. Get with the times Frenchies! :lol:

Yes the Greeks are defeated.

Even if the French have merely Infantry and other foot units; they do have 273 of them, while more could be waiting for next turn. And my forces are not numerous, considering that I just send a large stack to conquer the Inca. If they get next to a city of mine, I will have a hard time preventing them to conquer it. See the parallel with the first Hittite war where the hittites threw me off their lands using medieval infantry and longbows against my cavalry and infantry. I really fear for not being able to hold the cities.

273 is a lot, but not enough to defeat you!

That's a lot of French units!:eek: Eagarly awaiting the outcome of this battle with the French.:hammer:

The last picture of the previous update shows how the situation was at the beginning of my turn. I did my moves and in the next IBT a game-deciding decisive move was made by the French. Stay tuned.

I'll be updating in about 24 hours.

Yeah, um, I can wait twety-four hours. :twitch:

J/K

Are you gonna post the pics like you last did with the French stack screenie or are you gonna keep putting thwm qith the links?

With the links, to not burden the CFC-server.
The only reason the last pictures where not-linked is because I couldn't reach the imageshack server.

The French declared war and marched in a huge stack. I really need to plan the defenses properly; or I will loose the Arabian gains. After a long time thinking I came up with this.
I will send in the empty armies from the Island of Tes; just in case. I prefer to keep them empty, so I can filll them with Modern armors, but if I have to I will fill them and use them. I have about 35 airports and about 100 tanks and 30 Mech Infs in my core; they will be flown in (except 10 tanks; for protection). I decide to switch most cities to Mass Transits as the pollution is really annoying. Ecology is due next turn.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3770/4026ij.th.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4026ij.jpg)

The north: I will bombard away all the roads there, so no good units can attack my city there immediately. That way I free up important units. If a SoD comes towards the city I will have enough time -hopefully- to address the threat. Another big element in my strategy is to use only fully healthy units and give damaged units heal-time.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1669/4006bj.th.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4006bj.jpg)

The Center: The main element of my strategy is to deprive France of quick units. France has 1 horse-resource and once all the cavs and knights are dead, France is stuck with 1 movement units; which can be taken out by my Blitz-tanks. I just hope I can take out enough at little loss, or I will lose cities. As soon as I start losing cities, War weariness + extended French cultural borders makes a defeat likely. That means I must consider Abandoning, but that also has a very negative effect on War Weariness. I just have to make sure I won't lose cities.

Here you see the path 2 (obsolete) cavs will take to pillage France's only horse-resource. That will prevent them from sneaking up to my cities.

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1441/4010sf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The East: I will lightly protect the east as it is not very important to my defense. Even if all cities are taken; France still must capture center-cities to break through. 1 or 2 Mech Infs + some spare tanks will have to do. Of course; I will try to destroy small stacks of units.

Thus said thus done. I destroy all stacks in my north, bombard the border there, pillage the horses-tile, send in the reinforcements and kill the smaller stacks with my tanks.

No screenshot of the east. What is there to show anyway ???

The next turn

This is so disappointing; the pillaging horses had an effect on the AI that lured virtually all units in my territory back into France to "attack the cavs". This meant 2 turns lost for France and that is more than enough for me to make 100% sure I will win. :( I really would have loved a more intelligent action by the AI to really force me to bring out the best in me. This way it is now wrapped up, boxed, sealed and shipped to kingdom come. I delclare myself victor now. This is not the way I wanted to win, but it happened ... :sad:

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1465/4047zm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The rest is simply mop up. Oh yeah, nearly forgot; I was fighting the Inca as well.

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5118/4075qg.th.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4075qg.jpg)

Removed the French city in the south. I could afford to use 2 armies as the French units had moved out....

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/964/4088nz.th.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4088nz.jpg)

And the Inca again.

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/8588/4096uk.th.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4096uk.jpg)

And the French manage to capture a city of mine. In Azteca; I overlooked them.... :blush:

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/729/4112te.th.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4112te.jpg)

Not that they last long...

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/358/4120qp.th.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4120qp.jpg)

I continue conquering French cities on the islands. I have captured the complete Inca core and I need only 1 more Inca city to get rid of them. Preferably sooner than later as 60% war weariness is no fun.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4464/4139gv.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4139gv.jpg)

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8537/4144gs.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4144gs.jpg)

And this is such bad news when you are rushing to kill a civ to get rid of war weariness. I don't care for the lost units; just the 1 or 2 lost turns is very hurtful... I was 1 turn away from finishing off the Inca.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1397/4154vb.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4154vb.jpg)

The same turn I capture the "last turn last city" of the Inca. :mad:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7889/4165xw.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4165xw.jpg)

The good news comes from the French front. After draining all their units that dared to step into Iroquois lands I make a move on their cities. 1st try succesful. Also notice that I increased the bombed area a bit more southward and that I am using Mech Infs in mountains as a border.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3281/4173yd.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4173yd.jpg)

The Next turn:

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1008/4239gr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4508/4243hb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5370/4250gc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And the turn after that I manage to kill the Inca's - killing some war weariness.

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5955/4278fj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And another French city gone.

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/73/4283ol.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I finally managed to plant a spy in Mongolia and I did not like what I saw.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1236/4183lz.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4183lz.jpg)

I decided to make peace with the Babylonians. Just to get rid of some war weariness. I must stay at war with France, Mongols and Korea because I am advancing on their colonies.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2893/4299hk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And France keeps crumbling.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4898/4307us.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4307us.jpg)

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7520/4310uy.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4310uy.jpg)

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8308/4320sk.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4320sk.jpg)

Finally in 1848 AD Synthetic Fibres are learned so I can finally make Modern Armor. I shut down research to get cash for upgrading. But I keep pounding on the French.

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/6922/4341fw.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4341fw.jpg)

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/3714/4350qm.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4350qm.jpg)

But the last city is just too far away to be taken, which indirectly leads to:

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/6626/4363ka.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4363ka.jpg)

I try to see it as practice for my new Modern Armors...

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7520/4377ht.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4377ht.jpg)

And I kick the French out.

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/6311/4389lr.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4389lr.jpg)

And not only from theit mainland. This does the War weariness levels drop to near 0 !!!

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/8563/4413jg.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4413jg.jpg)

And then the Mongols become annoying; they land a party on Greek-Hittite island. I have to draft Mech Infs + fly in modern armors to save the islans. The Mongols are no fun in this game.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6264/4398tn.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4398tn.jpg)

We take a little leap and end up in 1870 AD. The Carthaginian main island is Mongolian.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9210/4437um.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4437um.jpg)

The Mongolian landings -although annoying- are easily countered without heavy losses. The loss of Palenque cost me virtually all my planes (about 50).

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4354/4468xt.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4468xt.jpg)

But when I see this I know I need some breathing time. Could get ugly...

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4242/4474up.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4474up.jpg)

I need Fission to locate my Uranium and -more importantly- the Mongolian Uranium. I decide to do obtain it through spying.

5500 gold down the drain ... Also notice the Stack in Korean lands; they'll be facing modern armour armies.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2733/4487rj.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4487rj.jpg)

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/286/4491gt.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4491gt.jpg)

Due to the lay of the land I cannot capture their cities really quickly; but in a few years they are down. And I manage to steal Fission - finally.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4614/4559kq.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4559kq.jpg)

The Koreans die in 1884 AD, The Mongols finish The Manhattan Project in 1888 AD. I buy Mongolian gems + Spices for 727 gpt in 1890 AD.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/460.JPG

And the same turn the Babylonians declare on me in 1890 AD. Probably over some former Carthaginian lands.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9001/4621fc.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4621fc.jpg)

I decided to send some troops to Babylonian lands, a handful of transports with Modern Armor. Not at all a lot. Most are in North-Korea to land in Mongolian lands as soon as possible.
And in 1896 AD, a Mongolian cruiser cruises over one of my submarines, starting the war.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1123/4651ju.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4651ju.jpg)

Because I was buying Gems and Spices from them (and it of course happened in the IBT) my cities go riotting again... You know me by now, I refuse to scroll ahead to correct the unhappyness.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/872/4670db.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4670db.jpg)

And so my units sail from North-Korea to Mongolia for the battle of the giants. Stay tuned.

You rool!!

That's alot of riots. :wow:

I landed a huge stack on a mountain and struck the next turn. It's 1902 AD.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/8231/4683ho.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4683ho.jpg)

I decided to keep Sagres as I have sufficient units to counter flips and I hope to remove cultural pressure on the city quickly.

And I succeed in razing Guimaraes the same turn.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/4400/4692kp.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4692kp.jpg)

Idem for Tabriz in 1902 AD.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/8787/4709ng.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4709ng.jpg)

Dalandzadgad is just too far for me to capture/raze this turn, but the troops are positioned. The Mongolian attack on the stack generates a defensive MGL. The Mongolians re-settle 2 cities and now It's my turn again.

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4451/4720yp.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4720yp.jpg)

I choose to heal most of my units and boost my defenses with the healthy units. And I make a blunder; I fail to notice these guys.

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6421/4738cf.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4738cf.jpg)

They do quiet a lot of damage to my empire .... New Gewauge is captured and Orleans as well.

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9457/4750aw.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4750aw.jpg)

Of course; it is insignificant as those cities were very corrupt, but it is annoying just the same. The cities are taken back easily, no screenshots of that.

See me conquering the Babylonians:

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5968/4773rf.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4773rf.jpg)

See me conquering the Mongolians:

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9554/4782ta.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4782ta.jpg)

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5994/4794my.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4794my.jpg)

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4296/4807to.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4807to.jpg)

And that's all for now.
I'll continue later.

:woohoo: Nice update! Keep up the :ar15:.

How many MGLs have you recieved so far?

Not that many MGL's. (considering all my fighting). Wild guess would be: about 10, max 20. The early ones went on to become armies; the later ones became airports, mainly.
The Iro's are not militaristic.

Nice updates!

Okay, perhaps in some way they did you a favor in torching Paris. But how could you miss a whole Mongol horde clammoring at your cities' gates? I think it's time to fire your national security advisor, no matter how hawt she is!

"I believe the title of the memo was 'Mongolian hordes rampaging outside the city gates determined to sack Paris' or something like that..." :mischief:
http://www.state.gov/cms_images/2005_01_18confirmation_1401.jpg

The Mongolians take back cities through flips.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6900/4819kk.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4819kk.jpg)

1914 AD:

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6390/4856zk.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4856zk.jpg)

1916 AD: I capture 9 cities. 7 insignificant ones

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6606/4954wy.th.jpg (http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4954wy.jpg)

And 2 important ones. I decide to raze the Manhattan Wonder as I don't really like nukes. In 1 game I had a stack of 25 armies ready to be shipped over to the enemy (Russia) and the turn before I was set to go Russia fired first - 2 nukes; 1 on my capital, 1 on my armies. I had no armies left ....

I don't want that to happen agian. Ever.

Of course Magellan's is nice to have.

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/3310/4904yl.th.jpg (http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4904yl.jpg)

1918 AD:

Bye Bye Babylon.

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4782/4980zq.th.jpg (http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4980zq.jpg)

1920 AD: I conquer Mongolia's heartland completely.

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/5408/4993dm.th.jpg (http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4993dm.jpg)

And 1 turn later their annoying island fortress from where they've sank many of my ships.

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/9923/5003fa.th.jpg (http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5003fa.jpg)

In 1922 I land on the 2nd Mongolian mainland and in 1924 I strike.

1924 AD:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2056/5034ev.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

But the Mongolians take some of my lands as well ...

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4986/5045tw.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5045tw.jpg)

Of course, the revenge is quick, but not satisfactory ...

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3556/5052df.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5052df.jpg)

That is in 1926 AD. Also the same turn:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2267/5080nd.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5080nd.jpg)

1928 AD: another 3 cities added.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1526/5119kd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And 4 more in 1930. And 1 lost.

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4199/5164bu.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5164bu.jpg)

I use 1932 to heal and reposition. And I am on the attack again in 1934 AD.

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8989/5177rc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I try a spy-plant attempt on Carthage and it fails. Not bad news, actually.

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/479/5184ul.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So I capture 3 Carthaginian cities.

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6104/5216jz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And 3 more in 1936 AD.

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/7962/5248ep.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

In 1938 AD the conquest continues. The last 2 Mongolian cities are taken.

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6473/5279uk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And so in 1940 AD it's just me and the Carthaginians. The good Carthaginians as they supplied me with Ivory all game. The war has stopped that trade obviously, but I have a backup now.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/886/5283wr.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5283wr.jpg)

1942 AD: 2 more cities gained.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2504/5309pd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And in 1940 AD the island is mine.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5017/5313yg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And the world looks like this now:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5466/531a5yq.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=531a5yq.jpg)

Carthage is now limited to their own island while I have the rest. It will take some time to get my modern Armors over there but then it will be easy; Certhage is still only industrial, so worse units than Infantry I won't face.

:woohoo: Nice job,I thought the Mongols looked impossible to beat, but you made it seem like child's play.:goodjob:

Wrap up time; 1948 AD:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7782/5349zq.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5349zq.jpg)

1950 AD:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/748/5368lp.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5368lp.jpg)

I have positioned my troops to conquer the last 4 non-Iroquois cities on the planet next turn. Just look at my financial situation - and no trades :D

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8177/5377sl.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5377sl.jpg)

So let's end this game.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1933/5425kv.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5425kv.jpg)

I press enter and:

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/2600/5437yk.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5437yk.jpg)

Wang Kon knows a Sirian quote ..... :lol:

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4807/5440yt.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5440yt.jpg)

Rik the Magnificent ...

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6293/5458au.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5458au.jpg)

And my highest score ever. Not that strange since I never play on huge maps, nor have played Deity for a really long time.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/545/5465ee.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

One more turn ???? No thank you; I've had enough for now ....

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8488/5477hk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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And that's the end of it. I hope you enjoyed the game and the story.

Regards,
Rik

:clap: Congratulations!

Fantastic job on defeating everyone!:clap:

Btw, did you use MapFinder to get that starting position?;)

Well played! I wish I had the patience to sit through 81 hours of slaughter on a huge map.

Good game! Congrats!:hatsoff: :thumbsup:

Great game! Congratulations! :goodjob::thumbsup:

I'm considering doing another one, but with more civs (32) on a large Pangaea map. Huge is just too time consuming for my PC.

Fantastic job on defeating everyone!:clap:

Btw, did you use MapFinder to get that starting position?;)I used no tools whatsoever; I just started a game with the settings I wanted.
Mapfinder is for sissies.