I'm thinking about putting together some themed resource packs for modmakers. They would include single-era leaderheads, units and any other artwork I manage to put together for that theme, such as popheads, advisors, relevant buildings, perhaps even diplomacy art. The pack would also contain text files covering city lists and accurate historical civilopedia info - in two senses: correct information and in a format and length that fits properly into the section viewed in-game.

I already "owe" Plotinus some African stuff, so watch out for that coming soon. PC number one is too busy for this; it's rendering Greek hoplites as we speak, so it'll be out of action for other things for a while ;) . My other PC is currently being used to test Kinboat's female paperdoll as an Iceni. The two AD Iceni units I made were amongst my first and done with Victoria as the model; these will look a lot better. I'll definately do the spearwoman and swordswoman and am going to give an archer and horsewoman a try. I should be able to do a settler without any problems and maybe even a worker.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/Iceni01.jpg

Sounds like WH amazons are getting reinforcements :mischief:

Thanks for doing this, Rob! :thumbsup:

Sounds like WH amazons are getting reinforcements :mischief:

Thanks for doing this, Rob! :thumbsup:
I guess that she could be used as a WH Amazon if you really want to :) . The real intention is to make sure that the Iceni (one of my personal favourite tribes) get their rightful place in Civ III history :p .

Here she is in action!

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/IceniSpear.gif

looks cool

Thanks Shiro! I even gave her civ coloured knickers after Plotinus commented on that about one of my other units, where it happened unintentionally. Goldflash has requested a slinger (not an Iceni one, but an ancient generic one); I might practice the movement using this model. If it works out, we'll have an Iceni slinger to add to the unit line :) . I'll have to do an axe version, like my Goth unit in Anno Domini!

hentai
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hahaha

jū hachi kin....

Has anyone done any ships in Poser? If so, any tips?

it should be the same right? To animate a ship

I should think it'd be the same principle...but was wondering had any tips on how to do the various movements that's all...I'm sure I can look at other units and work it out from there if not.

I was kind of wondering what the swordswoman looks like... I may be able to use her in the FF mod as an Alexandrian Holy Knight (i.e. Gen Beatrix), which is the last of the Alexandrian UUs I need....

Good job on the Spearwoman.

Thanks for doing this Rob.

I think she`ll look the same as the old one, just made with Poser (same as the spearwoman, just with a sword). Axe! Did I saw axe in there? Yay! :yumyum:

I even gave her civ coloured knickers
:lol:

I found this image online and changed what was white to civ-coloured blue. I thought I might use it as the emblem for shields in my Iceni range. What do you think?

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/IceniBanner.jpg

After cleaning up the image further, to ensure that there was only black and civ-colour blue in it, here's what she looks like:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/IceniSpearwoman.gif

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/IceniSpear01.gif

I was kind of wondering what the swordswoman looks like... I may be able to use her in the FF mod as an Alexandrian Holy Knight (i.e. Gen Beatrix), which is the last of the Alexandrian UUs I need....
She'll have a similar animation to my other swordsfolk, but other than that, she'll look quite similar to the spearwoman model.

If your happy with it I guess, I'm pretty neutral about that shield myself.

If your happy with it I guess, I'm pretty neutral about that shield myself.
There's a couple of advantages (for me); firstly, I think it looks better than the old wooden shield; secondly, it's got an emblem I can replicate on units such as ships and leaders to tie things in nicely and thematically ;) .

Interesting idea you have going there...

One thing I like about you Rob is your always coming up with such creative things...your an asset to the community, you really are..

The Iceni Battleaxe (weapon, not person ;) ) has now joined the ranks of the Iceni units :) .

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/IceniBattleAxe.gif

quick, dont let stormrage see or he'll start humping the screen!

well its a nice unit. But I think i she would need to use both hands to get any power or control out of an ax that big. But it still looks nice

Yeah, I'd make her two hand the thing, or reduce the ax size. Heck, I'd reduce the ax size a little bit regardless, thing is huge.

quick, dont let stormrage see or he'll start humping the screen!
:bounce::bounce::bounce: :lol:

MY GOD, that thing is huuuugee! I love it! :D But I do think it should be held with two hands. And I think it should be a guy holding it! (Did Iceni have any male fighters?) I mean, its huuugee! And I luuuvvv it :yumyum:

I know it's a huge axe guys, but this is a game after all ;) .

Oh, c`mon, even an orc would have hard time weilding that thing! I mean, this is "penguin archer" category :)

Oh, c`mon, even an orc would have hard time weilding that thing! I mean, this is "penguin archer" category :)
Ok. As you guys don't like it, I'll leave this out of the pack I upload :) .

Pah! Don't listen to them. They're clearly unfamiliar with the tradition of the Great British Battleaxe. I think I've known a few women a lot like that.

I like the idea of the resource packs. If it were me, though, I wouldn't make them single downloads containing all the stuff. The reason is that I think that people will want to pick and choose what they want to use, so they might want pedia entries but not units, or LHs, or whatever. So have a single thread containing a number of links or downloads rather than a single one - it makes it more flexible. Although as ever, of course, it's up to you!

I LOVE that Battleaxe swing (though such heavy iron or steel weapons didn't exist back then, when the Iceni were around). I'd love 2 see this one with some later period Germanic or Celtic units... (hint hint) :P

I take the hint, Pat ;) .
Whilst I really like the battleaxe animation myself, I think I need to reduce the size of the axe - the reason being that I've just noticed that in the westerly direction, the axe head almost disappears from the screen for a couple of frames. A pity that; though I can keep the same animation, but just go for a smaller axe to keep it all in-frame.

@Plotinus : I take your point about the download; however, I've found that I can't win with this. If I put it all in one file, people complain that the download's too big; if I split it, people complain that they keep having to download small files instead of one big one. To be honest, it's only the leaderhead that takes up the significant room. If the pack contained a single-era leaderhead, eight or so units and some misc files (such as city graphics, a city list and civilopedia entry), you're talking about 10MB in total - which is less than half the size of the average full leaderhead download. I'd not include a full four-era leaderhead in the pack, but would point to the thread it was in, if it existed. I think 10MB this day and age is a reasonably sized download given what you're getting. I also think that if people are interested in one unit of a specific theme, there's a high probability that they'd be interested in acquiring the others.

Go with the pack. It sounds like a good idea and the size is reasonable. People who are still on dial-up, well....:p

Also, that is one BIG axe and one tough broad. Very impressive (and well done).

A) I liked the big axe...kinda like a female Cloud (from FF7)

B) the packs sound great...I had a similar idea once to "pre package" eintire sets of unit lines...but LH and Improvements as well...it would save newer MODers alot of time digging through all the stuff out there, and keep them interested...it would be a generous contribution regardless of the File size...(I would recomend static LH tho...)

...This has been Spacer Ones...2 Cent$...

The battleaxe unit has been redone. The weapon has been scaled down and amended slightly - there's now also a smaller blade opposite the main blade. Everything fits in the animation frames this time thankfully ;) .

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/IceniAxe.gif

Thanks for the feedback guys. @Spacer One - I appreciate your point of view, however, I wouldn't just do a static leaderhead and leave it at that, though what I might do is provide the leaderhead as a normal 3D animation and include a static version for a wider choice for the Civ III connoisseur.

Question : if I end up doing an Iceni settler and/or an Iceni worker, does the helmet come off or stay on? In some respects, she should have no helmet as she's not in warrior mode; in other respects, losing the helmet could mean losing some of the Iceni identity. What are your views?

give them a basic attack animation along with the settle anim, so it can also be used as a warrior. just like aaglo's orc/ork settler swung the slalf and shot a gun aswell as settle.

and use the clear jungle or clear forsetland for the worker attack. that way, you can have settlers and workers with 1 defence point.

whadda ya think?

Keep the helmet for the flavor. As you said, it is after all a game

give them a basic attack animation along with the settle anim, so it can also be used as a warrior. just like aaglo's orc/ork settler swung the slalf and shot a gun aswell as settle.

and use the clear jungle or clear forsetland for the worker attack. that way, you can have settlers and workers with 1 defence point.

whadda ya think?
Mmmm....I think if I do this, it'll be a unit with a staff who has all the animations of the normal military unit plus settle and the various worker animations - that way, people can choose which ones they want in-game.

Over on the "Greek unit PC," I had to make some changes to the animations as I wasn't happy with some small points. So far, I've fully rendered the first three units (the joy of pallette making and putting the units together is next ;) ) and the last one is in the process of being rendered. I've used textures with blue in them, for example in the last crest, where it's blue and yellow stripes, which should mean the blue stripes go to civ colour, so I'm interested to see what that looks like in-game.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/CarthageSpear.gif

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/IllyrianSpear.gif

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/GreekSpear01.gif

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/GreekSpear02.gif

One thought about how to upload this, ie in packs or in single files: how about me making a thread in the units forum containing all the units for the particular theme, having them uploaded here as separate unit downloads, with a link to evo-games, where I will have a thread containing the various packs?

Ancient (literaly) inspiration (by Kryten):

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5924/civilopeadiahoplitespicture7ud.gif
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=37256&highlight=hoplite

I think the Iceni worker and settler should lose the helmets, and they would still be recognised as Iceni cos they are made in R8XFT`s style and quality ;)

Hoplites looks wonderful!

I've seen and used Kryten's hoplites; they're top quality :) . Also, don't want to go against you here, Stormrage, but I've started the settler/worker WITH the helmet, as (if I can pull it off) she's going to be some sort of basic military unit with the settle/worker anims.

Oh, OK then :)

Here's the swordswoman preview:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/IceniSword.gif

would she be a replacement swordsman for the celts or english?

She'd be a replacement swordswoman for the ICENI :) .
The Iceni were a Celtic tribe in England, so if you were playing the normal "epic" game with flavour units, you could argueably have her for both, but I'd choose England if it had to be just one of those.

Iceni Halberdier reporting for action :) . The shield texture is themed to the other Iceni units. This would possibly be available after a later technological advance.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/IceniHalberdier.gif

Shouldn`t the halberd be held with two hands? I don`t think it would be very effective like this. But the unit looks nice :goodjob:

Shouldn`t the halberd be held with two hands? I don`t think it would be very effective like this. But the unit looks nice :goodjob:
Perhaps so. However, the intention was to do a simple extra defensive unit, using a different weapon and shield to add variety. Perhaps I should call her something different to Halberdier.

Any chance you`ll make units that use 2 handed weapons? Or are you still learning that? You did an awesome job with that bowman. Now I`d like to see some barbarian axemen :evil:

Any chance you`ll make units that use 2 handed weapons? Or are you still learning that? You did an awesome job with that bowman. Now I`d like to see some barbarian axemen :evil:
I started doing units last year when creating Anno Domini. Starting off with utahjazz7's excellent tutorial, I was quickly able to "do" spearmen and learnt swordsmen shortly after. I also did a settler, which was rather a basic one. It's only recently that I've been able to do an archer, a feat I hope to replicate with this Iceni model. When I am able to move onto two-handed weapons, I don't know.

And you "did" them oh, so great :) I like all your units, and hope to see many more. I`m sure the Iceni archer babe will be as superb as the egyptian :)

would ancient celts have the halberd?

Probably not. I might redo this with a spear instead; I suppose the shield change is going to be difference enough.

hm, seems first ones appeared in the 13th century...

hm, seems first ones appeared in the 13th century...
Fair enough; I've been caught out ;) .

The Iceni resource pack is now available - the link is in my signature :) .

Whats next for the great king of assorted graphics aka R8XFT?

Wait, I forgot what you decided - each creation available as a separate DL too, or just packs? Cos I`ve already got Boudicca files in the AD folder, I just need the new poser girls.

Any chance you`ll make units that use 2 handed weapons?


Yep, a new Huscarl or Varangian Guard would be nice...:)

Oh yeah, a Varangian Guard! I think that would be realy nice :) But lets be patient, and let Rob learn Poser at his own pace. He can make hundreds of other units in the meanwhile, if he wants to, we won`t mind :mischief: