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stocktracker
Feb 26, 2006, 12:32 PM
As promised, I have started on my Emperor game. This level should be more of a jump in difficulty compared to the Monarch game. Since the image limit is now 12, it will allow for more flexibility for my story.

Here are the first two games, you can look at them to figure out my play style.

Japan on regent -
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=145623
Japan on monarch -
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=156471

I have decided to play on an archipelago on a standard size map. That way, I doubt I will win before the AI gets into the Industrial Age.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/411/e1000b6nw.jpg

This time I have put Cultural Conversions on, since I now know what it is. But other than that and the difficulty level, everything else is the same.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7919/e10012pw.jpg

This starting position doesn't look too bad, it is a flood plain with a wheat food bonus.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6998/e10021xg.jpg

After I built my first city, I have realized that I will soon have a luxury in my borders, which is a big help in the early game.

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/6515/e10036ql.jpg

Building a good road network in this game is very important.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1932/e10046zo.jpg

First settler comes out at 3200 B.C., I expect that is how fast the AI is going with its expansion.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5835/e10050en.jpg

I get this list, I see that the Mayans have come back to cause trouble. The Germans and the Portuguese have come back from the last game. I haven't played a game with the Hittites and the Americans.

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/6385/e10068op.jpg

Over the next nine turns, I built two new cities, found a volcano, and found more useless land to the east.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6067/e10071ek.jpg

That doesn't mean much, but I did find horses south of my capital.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7429/e10082rq.jpg

By 1950 B.C. I have five cities, and I am doing very well. I still have not found anyone yet, so I think I may be on an island.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1232/e10092ee.jpg

But if I am on an island, there is hope, more land has been found.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9605/e10107kx.jpg

Well, I guess I am on an island, but I am getting Alphabet in one turn. With Curraghs, hopefully I can find someone else.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9303/e10113vs.jpg

Here is the first game save, I guess you could see how you could do on this start.

117767

Next time - Will I find anyone else, or will I be alone for a good part of the game?

conquer_dude
Feb 26, 2006, 12:35 PM
:woohoo: It's back and first to reply! Good luck Haha that's not the freatest starting position. But you can win it. :goodjob:

Mirc
Feb 26, 2006, 12:41 PM
:woohoo:Second to reply!
Good luck!
Looks like you'll finish emperor faster than me.

Congrats, cd, for your 1100 post!

Sima Qian
Feb 26, 2006, 12:45 PM
Not a bad start (Kyoto would make a good settler farm). Having so much desert on your island isn't particularly helpful, but at least there's fish nearby to offset that.

FYI, you can find out which civs you will be playing against on the first turn, by opening up the Space Race screen (F10) and clicking on the button to view the space race.

I'll be watching this one, good luck!

Ansar
Feb 26, 2006, 12:46 PM
Mazel tov on finally beating two levels, good luck on emperor level.:thumbsup:

Ansar
Feb 26, 2006, 12:48 PM
FYI, you can find out which civs you will be playing against on the first turn, by opening up the Space Race screen (F10) and clicking on the button to view the space race.



You can see in his 6th pic that it shows the rival civs.;)

Sima Qian
Feb 26, 2006, 12:56 PM
You can see in his 6th pic that it shows the rival civs.;)

Yeah, I was just telling stocktracker how he could see it earlier than that :)

conquer_dude
Feb 26, 2006, 12:58 PM
Wow everyone is pouring in replies. :D Stocktrcacker should try an AW game.

stocktracker
Feb 26, 2006, 01:14 PM
FYI, you can find out which civs you will be playing against on the first turn, by opening up the Space Race screen (F10) and clicking on the button to view the space race.

I would have done that, but one of those histories of the world came up and it was easier. I'm surprised 4 people posted on this thread in 30 minutes, thanks!

conquer_dude
Feb 26, 2006, 01:27 PM
I'm surprised 4 people posted on this thread in 30 minutes, thanks!
That's why we're here.:cool:

Takeo
Feb 26, 2006, 01:34 PM
Good luck! You should do just fine on emperor, with your skill.

tupaclives
Feb 27, 2006, 04:49 AM
A alrite start there stocktracker, I have a feeling you will have no trouble with Emperor.

Mirc
Feb 27, 2006, 11:57 AM
IMHO the start is pretty bad, but probably I am too used with too good starts.

stocktracker
Feb 27, 2006, 05:55 PM
I get Alphabet, which will allow me to see if anyone else is by me. I am heading straight for Map Making, so I can colonize different islands.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4167/e10128ij.jpg

A few turns later, Kagoshima is built and a Curragh will be produced in one turn.

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/5134/e10138jr.jpg

The Curragh heads north, and it finds a brown border. I am assuming it is Russia.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3927/e10144os.jpg

I have Alphabet over them, which means I am ahead of them in getting to other islands.

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/2205/e10150of.jpg

To the east of me, another Curragh finds China. I never like playing with China or the Mayans, they always cause problems for me.

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/248/e10163rs.jpg

I have gold that I need to spend, so I buy two techs from China. They have Alphabet, but I am getting Writing in four turns.

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/7460/e10178si.jpg

Of those two nations and myself, I am currently the leader.

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/7025/e10181nq.jpg

As I explore, I find a good island with no other civs on it. I think I can put about four cities on it.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4759/e10198ho.jpg

China is still expanding rapidly, hopefully they don't have more land than I do.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8299/e10205yh.jpg

Currently I know of a civilization to the east and north of me, but I still haven't explored towards the west.

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/1587/e10214hu.jpg

Next time - Will I be able up with the AI in terms of expansion?

Sima Qian
Feb 27, 2006, 06:04 PM
Neat! Do you plan to settle the really tiny islands (4 tiles or less), or will you let the AI build cities there, and get them from peace treaties when you beat them up?

conquer_dude
Feb 27, 2006, 08:39 PM
IMHO the start is pretty bad, but probably I am too used with too good starts.
Spoiled. :p Congrats on the 1200 posts btw.:)



Nice update, stocktracker. Do you plan to go to war once you get map making?

stocktracker
Feb 27, 2006, 09:43 PM
Do you plan to settle the really tiny islands (4 tiles or less), or will you let the AI build cities there, and get them from peace treaties when you beat them up?

I want to get as much land as possible in the early game, so I want to settle everything.

Nice update, stocktracker. Do you plan to go to war once you get map making?

I need to colonize more land first, and then I can start the wars.

Mirc
Feb 28, 2006, 08:45 AM
Thank you, c_d. (may I call you c_d? conquer_dude is too long).

I think Russia is more powerful than China (not only from the Histograph, but also because of the lands they have). Good luck with beating them!

conquer_dude
Feb 28, 2006, 09:04 AM
Yeah you can call me cd. :D

I think Russia will be harder to take out because they do look like they have more land. But of course none of these will be hard for stocktracker to take out. :rolleyes: :)

stocktracker
Feb 28, 2006, 04:12 PM
The first wonder of the game is built, and guess who builds it? After playing these games, I see why people like to play as the Mayans.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1853/e10225qa.jpg

I find a blue border while trying to explore in the west. It is either Germany, or the Mayans. Both are civs I really don't care to deal with.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1482/e10238no.jpg

With my next-to-nothing military guarding in cities, and my one luxury, it seems better than what the AI has. Of course, the AI at this point doesn't have to worry about unhappiness that much.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3995/e10241li.jpg

It was the Mayans that I found, I am soon to be three techs ahead of them in the race to settle on other islands.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4827/e10251bi.jpg

The Mayans have a higher score than the Russians and the Chinese, but they are weaker than they are.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4671/e10261ox.jpg

From what I am seeing, the Mayans don't have very good land, which is a relief.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4779/e10275uy.jpg

Over the next ten turns, five settlers will be completed. Galleys have been built to secure more land.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3491/e10280li.jpg

There is some nice land towards the north, but Russia is in the way.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2850/e10294yi.jpg

The Russians get the Pyramids in four turns, but it is not a big wonder on an island.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/281/e10305od.jpg

The Right of Passage is signed, and that land to the north is as good as mine.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/316/e10318nl.jpg

Next time - I find another civilization, and it is the strongest one yet. Who is it?

Sima Qian
Feb 28, 2006, 04:27 PM
Well it said Hittites in the pop-up box earlier, I'm sure they're still on top. Quite hard to beat Expansionist + Industrious... only Maya can possibly top that, but you've already met them.

conquer_dude
Feb 28, 2006, 09:43 PM
Haha you met the Mayans! :p

J/K

Nice update. You do seem a bit behind in tech, though... Do you plan to steal some techs?

azzaman333
Feb 28, 2006, 11:27 PM
Well it said Hittites in the pop-up box earlier, I'm sure they're still on top. Quite hard to beat Expansionist + Industrious... only Maya can possibly top that, but you've already met them.

Hittites are expansion and commercial, not Expansionist + Industrious. America is Expansionist + Industrious. Hittites probably popped a town/setler with a scout.

Sima Qian
Feb 28, 2006, 11:38 PM
Hittites are expansion and commercial, not Expansionist + Industrious. America is Expansionist + Industrious. Hittites probably popped a town/setler with a scout.

Oops! I stand corrected.

stocktracker
Mar 01, 2006, 09:36 PM
You do seem a bit behind in tech, though... Do you plan to steal some techs?

No, it took forever to get those three expensive techs (Alphabet, Writing, and Map Making). The rest of the ancient age should be downhill.

Three wonders are finished within four turns, they aren't very useful.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1032/e10326ie.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/594/e10332fb.jpg

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/9708/e10345qk.jpg

Two nice islands are east of Russia, I want to get as many cities as possible on them.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2599/e10353ng.jpg

My current empire, I plan to build a city on that island southwest of me next turn.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1728/e10360vt.jpg

On technology, I am catching up. I can get techs in under ten turns now, which is enough to keep up with the AI.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5742/e10378fw.jpg

China is second to me, but Russia is lagging. I wanted to declare war on China first, they are close to me and pose no threat to my expansion by Russia. Russia is weaker, so who should I go after?

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7035/e10388tw.jpg

One of my Curraghs found a border, it is easy to figure out who it is.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3807/e10399fz.jpg

It is the Americans, which currently are ahead of everyone else, except for me. They have Map Making, which they are in the race to get more land.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9931/e10406qb.jpg

Next time - Will I get frustrated with the Americans after I realize they are also setting up colonies?
And later in the game, wars will start from likely and unlikely targets, and a superpower awakens from its shell. (It is not me, or America!)

conquer_dude
Mar 01, 2006, 09:41 PM
Yup. The colony wars! The commonwealth :lol: of Japan has overhtrown the Americans and then took that town! :wow:

Just havin fun. :D

DAv2003
Mar 02, 2006, 02:29 AM
I'd go for Russia meself. Then you'd be in a better position to attack China and America.

BuckyRea
Mar 02, 2006, 08:46 AM
My current empire, I plan to build a city on that island southwest of me next turn.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1728/e10360vt.jpg


Looks like Sicily to me. Better hope the Americans don't get GL Patton!

IronMan2055
Mar 02, 2006, 03:32 PM
the mayans are close and it looks like they have the least power

stocktracker
Mar 02, 2006, 04:56 PM
The Germans get their first wonder, and the Mayans get another one, making three. The Mayans will probably get the award for building the most useless wonders.

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/7180/e10418pr.jpg

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/7056/e10423iq.jpg

I send an ambassador to Washington, and it looks like they share their island with someone.

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/8233/e10436xv.jpg

To be nice to the Americans, I sell a Right of Passage to them, while making some money in the process.

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/4145/e10441av.jpg

My solution to American expansion, putting boats I don't need anymore in the way so they can't get across.

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/1187/e10454ro.jpg

I renew my RoP with Russia, I got more money out of it.

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/1083/e10468sh.jpg

And my solution to American expansion becomes worthless in four turns, but I will leave the boats to sit there.

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/2420/e10477sc.jpg

Four cities have now been built on those two islands, I hope I can fill them up!

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/8955/e10480yj.jpg

Doing some trading to catch up to other civs, I give Currency to the Mayans for Code of Laws and Literature. The Mayans are not much of a threat to me right now.

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/6568/e10497jp.jpg

And with China, which is now far behind in some areas. Getting Construction will get me to the next age.

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/4140/e10500zq.jpg

Next time - A war breaks out, will it make my decision of who to take out first?

The 777 Hoax
Mar 02, 2006, 06:24 PM
Awesome job so far... keep it up!

carmen510
Mar 02, 2006, 06:45 PM
Go on!!!!!!

conquer_dude
Mar 02, 2006, 06:52 PM
Kill the Mayans. They give lotz of room for cities up there. ;)

azzaman333
Mar 02, 2006, 10:25 PM
Kill China before they get Riders, then kill the Mayans after their Jav Throwers are obsolete.

stocktracker
Mar 03, 2006, 03:59 PM
It now looks like someone is competing with me for that island by Russia and America.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4928/e10514ix.jpg

A German boat comes by, hopefully they don't have settlers on it.

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/9645/e10528qo.jpg

The Germans have 10 cities, and have the same level of technology that I do.

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/787/e10532tz.jpg

The Russians and the Mayans are now competing for that land, hopefully they don't get more than a city on that island.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/193/e10547jz.jpg

The Germans are now in the race, it seems relations with them are coming off to a bad start.

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/6375/e10556rw.jpg

The Chinese decided to land a warrior on one of my islands, and they declared war against me.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8731/e10569xf.jpg

The Chinese took the city, but it may have been culturally taken eventually by Russia.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4720/e10573gn.jpg

That is all the Chinese sent to battle me, I am not very impressed.

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/5121/e10581yi.jpg

The civs by me are weak, but the ones far away are very strong.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/764/e10597vg.jpg

I get a new Right of Passage with Russia, but I do not ask them to help me. I feel that I can take this war alone.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/570/e10605bs.jpg

Next time - What will I win (or lose) in the first Japanese-Chinese war?

conquer_dude
Mar 03, 2006, 04:02 PM
Uh oh. That's the second city you've lost in all of your story collections. :lol:

stocktracker
Mar 03, 2006, 04:11 PM
I think this is the third.

Japan on regent - Game 2 (Yes, the Chinese have got a city from me before.)
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7964/civ236stock9ce.jpg

Japan on regent - Game 3
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4936/civ7926ky.jpg

And I don't think it will be the last.

conquer_dude
Mar 04, 2006, 08:25 AM
Yes you're right. Still, just 3!! :lol:

Sima Qian
Mar 04, 2006, 11:31 AM
What if you had kept the warrior on Ise's island on the other tile instead of inside the city? Wouldn't the Chinese have been unable to land?

Or do you consider that an exploit?

Mirc
Mar 04, 2006, 11:51 AM
Yes, you could do that!

Lord_Iggy
Mar 04, 2006, 12:43 PM
Nice work so far Stocktracker!

stocktracker
Mar 04, 2006, 05:34 PM
What if you had kept the warrior on Ise's island on the other tile instead of inside the city? Wouldn't the Chinese have been unable to land?

I would be much happier if the AI picked off my colonies, instead of my core cities. I did gain something out of this, so it is not a bad thing.

The Germans have managed to build a city on one of my islands, maybe I can get it by culture.

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/2958/e10611ce.jpg

Back at my home island, China is sending a boat near us, but there is nothing in it.

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/2276/e10628wf.jpg

The Americans get a city on that tundra island, and Russia gets a city on the island that I am trying to get.

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/8751/e10639ua.jpg

I may decide to launch an attack on China, if they don't give me something good for a peace treaty.

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/551/e10646iu.jpg

I get Monarchy from the Mayans, that is the government I want to switch to soon.

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/165/e10659sk.jpg

The Chinese want a peace treaty, and I get something good out of it.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6061/e10663oq.jpg

Macao, which is very close to the Chinese border, will probably flip within 30 turns. Tinentsin, on the other hand, may become a permanent addition to my empire.

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/3417/e10678mw.jpg

It is now time to switch to Monarchy, it will take two turns.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1464/e10689kb.jpg

And my people do not look very happy.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4797/e10695dm.jpg

Next time - Another war breaks out on my home island, will I survive?

conquer_dude
Mar 04, 2006, 08:23 PM
Um... yes.

The 777 Hoax
Mar 04, 2006, 09:45 PM
Yeah definitely lol.

stocktracker
Mar 05, 2006, 04:49 PM
What is Germany doing that they are so close to one of my cities?

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1668/e10708bf.jpg

I guess they need something to do.

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/1672/e10716yn.jpg

And here is another city lost, so that puts us at...
2 China
1 Germany
1 Mongols

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/5959/e10721rw.jpg

I renew my Right of Passage, I can't believe America is stupid enough to do it every time!

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9862/e10731er.jpg

Germany is starting to dump units on my territory, but I have units to handle them.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/741/e10741es.jpg

More units! I need to get a peace treaty signed, and fast.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8733/e10754ft.jpg

That will help the struggling Mayans to catch up in technology.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6874/e10769lu.jpg

Germany dumps a unit by one of my colonies, but I manage to take care of it.

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/2776/e10779oh.jpg

I got a settler on that island, so I am going to rebuild.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7341/e10781nx.jpg

I held on to that for 11 turns, at least I got 33 science beakers out of it.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4460/e10794wb.jpg

Germany is taking its time to meet with me, but I am sure they will accept to a peace treaty sometime.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3389/e10804ap.jpg

Next time - Another very long war blows up, who am I going after?

conquer_dude
Mar 05, 2006, 04:58 PM
I dunno but you really should try to take that German colony on your land.

Mirc
Mar 06, 2006, 09:42 AM
Sorry, what I posted is stupid. I misread what conquer_dude said.

conquer_dude
Mar 06, 2006, 06:27 PM
What post??

stocktracker
Mar 06, 2006, 09:47 PM
The war with Germany ends, and I did get something decent out of it. I wanted to get that city on one of my islands, and they wouldn't budge. I am going to focus my military on a new war soon.

http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/391/e10817kh.jpg

Bonn is close to Portugal, Germany, and the Mayans, so I doubt it will ever will make much of a difference.

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/4405/e10821ho.jpg

I don't want to meet the Hittites after I saw this, which is the only civilization left that I haven't found.

http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/4836/e10835nf.jpg

I still have the score lead, but I want to increase that by going after someone soon.

http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/144/e10844xc.jpg

Although I may never need Republic, it is good to get it out of the way. And Portugal is very weak anyways.

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/5599/e10852yv.jpg

I had that for 17 turns, getting me 51 beakers. It seems like this upcoming war will have to start earlier than expected. I can't keep my troops on that island anymore.

http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/4796/e10861fc.jpg

A good reason to declare war on China is that they are so far behind in technology, and that I have superior units. The best the Chinese have is Swordsmen.

http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/102/e10877oj.jpg

So the call is made, and I start the second Chinese-Japanese war. It could be the end of China or they can tear my military down.

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1084/e10889gn.jpg

I get the city back easily, but they only had one Spearmen to defend it.

http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/5231/e10893rd.jpg

During the next turn I realize that I may have gone a little over my head here... I have ten good attacking units over there, but it looks like they may be sending dozens my way. Xinjian is the first target of the war.

http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/2272/e10906ol.jpg

Next time - The war intensifies, will I pull ahead?

conquer_dude
Mar 06, 2006, 09:56 PM
WOW. The challenges of emporer my friend. :)

Ansar
Mar 07, 2006, 06:39 AM
1 archer, 4 spearman, and 4 warriors!:eek:

:rotfl: :joke:

Mirc
Mar 07, 2006, 09:43 AM
I mean thaat I edited my post because it was stupid. I didn't know what colony you were refering at when you said "Take out that German colony...". When I understood I realised my post didn't make any sense, so I edited it out.

I've seen a stack of 35 units on Monarch :eek:! End the biggest I've ever seen was when I tried to get a Diplo win at Deity and France was attacking Egypt with 48 units!

The 777 Hoax
Mar 07, 2006, 04:27 PM
Dang. Emperor? Man, you are doing really well. I'm still shaky on Regent... lol.

G.I.JOE08
Mar 07, 2006, 05:42 PM
Believe it or not, I'am this guys neighbor! We play hotseat all the time :crazyeye:

The 777 Hoax
Mar 07, 2006, 06:39 PM
Haha are you serious? Dude that's awesome. I've never even played a hotseat game before... no one will play with me! :sad:

Takeo
Mar 07, 2006, 08:59 PM
China must not have iron. You will run right over them.:D

stocktracker
Mar 07, 2006, 10:30 PM
China must not have iron. You will run right over them.

They do, Swordmen quickly rush the cities that I try to go for.

It is a good idea to avoid a war with the Americans at this point, they are second to me, and they have better technology than I do.

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1322/e10917uc.jpg

Getting Xinjing is almost certain, but I am worried about Tientsin.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1930/e10929gi.jpg

I get rid of it, more than seven units were going to come at my three defensive. Even if they did survive, the chances of culture getting it are also high.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6680/e10930ct.jpg

I take Xinjian and the Americans keep getting more science wonders, that is not helping me.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9568/e10948rt.jpg

I sell of my Right of Passage for 30 gold, while America still has 5 to 6 techs ahead of me.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6072/e10959zu.jpg

Xinjian is secure, and I plan to head east with a stack soon.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7784/e10967mi.jpg

I'm still in the lead, and China's score still hasn't fallen through the floor yet.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6849/e10978gh.jpg

At this level, I have to trade technology with someone, and in this case, Russia. Germany, the Russians, and the Mayans are about equal to me.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/2494/e10995um.jpg

I buy America's world map, I could use a better one.

http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/1892/e11028al.jpg

Next time - Will America's world map tell me where the last civilization is hiding?

Lord_Iggy
Mar 07, 2006, 10:56 PM
The crowd is on its feet!

Mirc
Mar 08, 2006, 02:37 AM
Don't worry about being behind in Middle Ages. It's the best time to recover, because the AI's almost never resarch Chemistry, so you can very easily get ahead them and get Cavs faster than them!

Edit: 1300th post![party]

Ansar
Mar 08, 2006, 06:46 AM
I guess the chinese think they're gonna make a comeback seeing as their score isnt going downhill.;)

I cant wait to see the world map.:)

IronMan2055
Mar 08, 2006, 02:12 PM
in civ 4 my computer freezes for two minutes when i get a world map.

Takeo
Mar 08, 2006, 02:24 PM
Next time - Will America's world map tell me where the last civilization is hiding?

:yup:
I would say yes, cause you probably wouldn't ask the question if you didn't already know.;)

We want to see a worldmap!:)

The 777 Hoax
Mar 08, 2006, 03:08 PM
Um, thank you IronMan? lol

conquer_dude
Mar 08, 2006, 04:00 PM
^???

Excelent story stocktracker. Internet was down yesterday so I got no time here. :sad:

G.I.JOE08
Mar 08, 2006, 04:30 PM
Good luck may you win again!:goodjob::D :p

stocktracker
Mar 08, 2006, 10:23 PM
I got the world map, but it didn't reveal the Hittites. The 40 gold wasn't a complete waste, however, I did get the map of Germany, Russia, America, and the Portuguese. The map also shows that Portugal is very weak, it may be a good idea in the future to pick off some of their colonies.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6859/e11039pq.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7641/e11041ta.jpg

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/2741/e11059hu.jpg

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/5457/e11064he.jpg

I need to get more cities on China, so they don't rebuild. Even worse is another civilization that comes along and builds something.

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/4341/e11077me.jpg

10 Medieval Infantry are heading west to strike at the first Chinese city I can find.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4985/e11083nl.jpg

How long will Russia sign this agreement, it doesn't benefit them!

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1236/e11094ep.jpg

I found Canton, it is small city so the chances of it flipping is much lower.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7587/e11115fb.jpg

I take the city, and China doesn't seem to be very happy.

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/7538/e11121zv.jpg

Next time - More wonders are picked up, who will get them?

tupaclives
Mar 09, 2006, 12:00 AM
The AI!

Great story stocktracker :goodjob:

Sima Qian
Mar 09, 2006, 01:43 AM
A lot of the wonders that give continental effects (Pyramids, Sun Tzu's, Temple of Artemis) are quite useless on archipelago maps, and often cost a lot more shields to build than actually building the improvements themselves. But the AI will be dumb enough to build them anyway, and I'm sure you'll have much better sense than that.

The only exception I can think of is the Hoover Dam, since the power plants are pretty expensive, and you can get the effects of a hydro plant even in the cities that are not on a river.

Mirc
Mar 09, 2006, 08:52 AM
Great!

A one pop city like Canton with so much culture :crazyeye: !

And BTW in my current Emp game I'm in 700 AD and I'll discover Chemistry in 7 turns! I'm just one turn behind :lol:. I'm not spending so much money though

conquer_dude
Mar 09, 2006, 02:38 PM
Great update, probably wont get to stay here long cause the wind is picking up and tornadoes might come around so. *sigh* Dont worry about me.

Canton probably has lots of culture because it builds settlers and workeres so it keeps staying at a low population.

The 777 Hoax
Mar 09, 2006, 06:16 PM
Tornadoes? Really? That stinks. Those are my greatest fear, so yes, I will worry about you. Who will finish the crazy hotseat game???

BTW, nice update... stinky Hittites, where could they be? :crazyeye:

conquer_dude
Mar 09, 2006, 06:55 PM
Tornadoes? Really? That stinks. Those are my greatest fear, so yes, I will worry about you. Who will finish the crazy hotseat game???

BTW, nice update... stinky Hittites, where could they be? :crazyeye:
Nah, weather passed no prob. The hotseat game can only be updated on weekends, and I'm going out of town this weekend too. :lol: But Friday I hsould get an update.

My guess for the hitties would be under Portugal.

Lord_Iggy
Mar 09, 2006, 07:06 PM
Well, still looking forward to the update anyway. I love conquests into the unknown.

stocktracker
Mar 09, 2006, 10:15 PM
The wonders for this era are starting to be built, with Russia getting one that doesn't give a huge benefit to them.

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/8665/e11132yi.jpg

In the last few turns, the Chinese have rebuilt a city on where another one of their cities once was. It is a good idea just to clear them out.

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/6576/e11145kl.jpg

China wants a peace treaty, about the only thing they can give me is a city that I can keep for 10 turns, then it flips back to China. China is now sending a few units at a time, which is something that I can control. The war will continue.

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/4590/e11154xz.jpg

The Mayans get another useless wonder for them, how long will they keep this up?

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/383/e11167qj.jpg

I don't know how large Germany's military is, so I don't know if that will help them very much.

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/9047/e11177wv.jpg

That wonder is good for the Americans, most of their big cities are on the central island. The Americans have the most developed homeland.

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7660/e11185xt.jpg

The war has made some progress, I cut China off from its only iron supply, stopping the training of new Swordsmen. I take Nanking, which may have a decent chance of flipping after some time.

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/7626/e11192nj.jpg

Western China is gone, but the capital is in the south or the east. I did find a huge Chinese city, which has a size of 10. That will be hard to keep for very long.

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7168/e11202wd.jpg

Japan needs to keep up in technology, so they need to trade with someone. Germany probably will not declare war on me again, after building a large military to go after China.

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/6527/e11218nf.jpg

And again with Russia, they are nice to me.

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/3470/e11224nr.jpg

And compared with America, the gap may be shrinking, but I can't tell for sure.

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/9681/e11235uc.jpg

Next time - The war with China continues, but at what price?

Lord_Iggy
Mar 09, 2006, 11:04 PM
Death to China!

FascistRepublic
Mar 10, 2006, 07:33 AM
A fine story Stocktracker!

Ansar
Mar 10, 2006, 01:35 PM
Why dont you get a world map isntead of a territory map?:confused:

conquer_dude
Mar 10, 2006, 07:42 PM
Ask someone for communications with the Hitties.

stocktracker
Mar 10, 2006, 10:40 PM
Ask someone for communications with the Hitties.

I figure the Portuguese may have it, but it never comes up.

Why dont you get a world map isntead of a territory map?

A world map is too much for them, so I get a territory map instead, it may tell me if they have built any more cities.

China is starting to give up in this war, they can't produce the amount of units that I have.

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/4234/e11247ki.jpg

I sell my RoP to the Americans for the most ever, 43 gold and a territory map.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5526/e11251gi.jpg

I lost Nanking from culture, and I need to get it back.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1743/e11281am.jpg

I get one of the largest Chinese cities, Tsingtao. I doubt I will be able to hold on to it for long.

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3892/e11292ne.jpg

Chinese Swordsmen come up to attack my city, and I get my first Great Leader!

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/7218/e11307do.jpg

I kept that out of Tsingtao, for the fact I was going to lose it soon.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2873/e11312mx.jpg

You only need to kill one Spearmen to get back the city from culture, so two units can do the job.

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/4863/e11323bk.jpg

I got another world map, it revealed the Mayans and the Chinese. Now I can see where I am going.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3232/e11334wo.jpg

They have only five cities left, and a luxury I want to get soon.

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3008/e11348wr.jpg

I take Macao, which is a city that I had before for 11 turns.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5430/e11357sg.jpg

Next time - I meet with the Hittites, are they stronger or weaker than I am? Has their isolation put them behind in the science race?

Sima Qian
Mar 10, 2006, 10:51 PM
Why didn't you raze any of the cities? Did you expect to wipe out the rest of China so quickly that you could keep their population around after all possibility of culture flips were gone?

DAv2003
Mar 11, 2006, 10:34 AM
Best to rush the capital before any other culture flips happen.

The 777 Hoax
Mar 11, 2006, 07:45 PM
Yeah, :goodjob: keep it up!

stocktracker
Mar 11, 2006, 09:59 PM
Why didn't you raze any of the cities? Did you expect to wipe out the rest of China so quickly that you could keep their population around after all possibility of culture flips were gone?

Culture flips are not a major problem, I have a stack of units outside the cities to take care of it. I have to make new settlers, so I don't want to raze and rebuild.

As time goes on, I am getting closer to Military Tradition.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7480/e11367bq.jpg

I sell it to the Mayans to get banking, I want to get out of this age soon!

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1158/e11374tg.jpg

And again with Germany, that world map still doesn't reveal the last civilization I have left to find, the Hittites.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2936/e11383fh.jpg

This tech is proving to be valuable, I got three other techs for it!

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4261/e11398gn.jpg

I send a boat to eastern China to try to find the Hittites, and I found a border.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3263/e11405gg.jpg

I meet with them, and trade maps. They appear to be behind in technology, which is something good for me.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6442/e11412ii.jpg

They are huge, it took two screenshots to reveal their entire starting island, they are very lucky.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2428/e11428tk.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1672/e11436xr.jpg

And now, they are the score leader, I am not behind by much.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/783/e11440dx.jpg

In a move of desperation, the Chinese have sent their best offensive units to gain some ground against me, but they fail.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4954/e11458hx.jpg

Next time - Will China live long enough to see other nations get into the industrial age?

Sima Qian
Mar 11, 2006, 10:17 PM
Next time - Will China live long enough to see other nations get into the industrial age?

Against armies? Heck no.

Do they even have contact with all the other civs?

Ansar
Mar 12, 2006, 05:38 AM
Damn, them Hitties are big!:eek: Gonna be lots of dead Hitties, aint it?;)

Mirc
Mar 12, 2006, 05:41 AM
7 turns to go! ;)

conquer_dude
Mar 12, 2006, 07:36 AM
Entering the industrial age a bit soon! Hoorah! [party]

I KNEW THE HITTIES WOULD BE UNDER PORTUGAL :woohoo:

carmen510
Mar 12, 2006, 06:17 PM
Continue! I hope China lives for a moment, then dies!

conquer_dude
Mar 12, 2006, 06:20 PM
Continue! I hope China lives for a moment, then dies!
That doesnt make sense

The 777 Hoax
Mar 12, 2006, 07:58 PM
Haha, yeah, it doesn't. :lol:

Good job in the war... man, you are tearing it up on emperor! That's amazing!

stocktracker
Mar 12, 2006, 10:16 PM
Gonna be lots of dead Hitties, aint it?

I may never even get to them in this game, it may be a race for space!

This is not helping me in trying to catch up to America in technology.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6682/e11460kk.jpg

The Chinese get that city back again, but I believe this is the last time.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7500/e11478yx.jpg

I take the city back...

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5771/e11483bi.jpg

...and another right by it to reduce the chance of flipping.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2599/e11492yi.jpg

The Chinese have three cities left, with their best defensive unit, Spearmen.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3074/e11506ju.jpg

China is attempting to rebuild, something that I am not going to let happen.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8439/e11512me.jpg

I block China's chance to build that city, and I take the capital.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/648/e11526bz.jpg

After I got Military Tradition, I sold it for a few old techs.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7479/e11534ak.jpg

The Russians and the Americans are into the Industrial Age, it will take me seven more turns.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9971/e11546vx.jpg

And by A.D. 1000, China is gone, and that is one less civ to deal with.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9954/e11551gb.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9533/e11565nf.jpg

I realize at this point that I am moving much slower than I thought I was, compared to my Monarch game. Domination victory is not certain, and my chances at winning the space race later in the game is also low. But, the AI moves slower in the Industrial Age, which should give me a military edge.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/6463/e11577fw.jpg

Next time - Who am I trying to go after next?

DAv2003
Mar 13, 2006, 05:02 AM
The Portuguese look pretty weak, perhaps you could go after them.

Ansar
Mar 13, 2006, 05:33 AM
Arent you glad that the AI is stupid in the Industrial Age and goes for Nationalism-Communism-Fascism?:)

Mirc
Mar 13, 2006, 12:27 PM
I don't know about him, but personally I am glad.

Good job, stocktracker.

The 777 Hoax
Mar 13, 2006, 04:54 PM
Yes! Yes! I love the Industrial Age! Keep going :)

conquer_dude
Mar 13, 2006, 06:52 PM
Next time - who am I trying to go after next?
Mayans, definantly! they suck, dude!

Ansar
Mar 13, 2006, 07:28 PM
Whens the next update?:)

conquer_dude
Mar 13, 2006, 07:45 PM
He usually updates late.

stocktracker
Mar 13, 2006, 10:25 PM
Mayans, definantly! they suck, dude!
The Portuguese look pretty weak, perhaps you could go after them.

The Portuguese are the weakest, they have a few isolated cities, and they are not into the industrial age.

I'm trying to keep relations with the Americans up, but it many look like they may try to go after some of my colonies soon.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1/e11586sw.jpg

Here is a more useful wonder on this type of map, Russia is slowly becoming more powerful than the Americans.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8287/e11596sv.jpg

The Mayans are still behind China, while I am still in the process of catching up with the Hittites.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/317/e11601ok.jpg

On demographics, I am only #1 on one thing, land area.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6167/e11612yc.jpg

Only seven turns left in this era...

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3928/e11627hd.jpg

...and I move into the Industrial Age.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7356/e11633ja.jpg

Although the Hittites were behind in technology, they have caught up.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9238/e11644tw.jpg

I accepted this, the Portuguese will never become a huge power at this point.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5220/e11654wy.jpg

And a better deal with Russia, where I get a luxury and gold.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5268/e11668ex.jpg

Twenty turns have passed in this update, and it is time to renew this agreement again. (I get 4 gold less than last time, the American economy must be suffering.)

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3460/e11670zs.jpg

Next time - As usual, complex alliances form from this point on. Will this game be an exception?

Ansar
Mar 14, 2006, 05:51 AM
Go for Replaceable Parts, that will give you the good industrial age units before tanks.;)

Mirc
Mar 14, 2006, 08:56 AM
I think you should never sign MPP's.

DAv2003
Mar 14, 2006, 12:38 PM
They are quite helpful, so long as you're careful. I think you should invade Portugal as soon as possible, before they find a way to sign a MPP with anyone.

Lord_Iggy
Mar 14, 2006, 02:26 PM
Congrats on the conquest of China stocktracker! And on entering the industrial age.

FascistRepublic
Mar 14, 2006, 02:49 PM
Ya industrial! Portugal's destruciton should be done asap tho so u can get ahead of the hittites.

conquer_dude
Mar 14, 2006, 04:53 PM
I think you should never sign MPP's.
Well, you should if you have a crappy civ game, (unlike sticktracker's) but the AI usually dont do fighting. They get peace then the next turn they have to go back to war. :lol:

The 777 Hoax
Mar 14, 2006, 08:49 PM
I don't really like MPP's until much later in the game when all the civs are done expanding and then one tiny dumb civ desides to declare on a civ 20 times bigger than them... World War III baby!

conquer_dude
Mar 14, 2006, 08:50 PM
What's hilarious is once I signed a mpp with three of the four remaining civs and that one id didn't have a MPP with attacked me and boy was that a mistake!:lol:

stocktracker
Mar 14, 2006, 10:26 PM
Steam Power comes around, I got it after everyone went after Nationalism.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8066/e11680fv.jpg

I will soon surpass the Hittites in score in the next few turns, and the Russians are pulling ahead of the Americans.

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/3039/e11693vg.jpg

Russia gives me the best offer for coal, and since America doesn't have any, they would ask for it anyway.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8180/e11707jj.jpg

85 gold for a RoP, looks good.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2044/e11712sb.jpg

I get a good deal from the Mayans, I can easily set the research rate at 100%.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5375/e11727jm.jpg

I have decided to sell off my various luxuries and resources, so no one ever asks for them.

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/756/e11733uu.jpg

At the victory screen, it shows my culture is very poor. It is about 1/7 of the Americans.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5892/e11748ba.jpg

And the Americans are coming after me, my colonies are at risk.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3185/e11759xv.jpg

With a warrior attacking, I had at least a 50% chance of winning with my warrior in the city.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/156/e11760ot.jpg

And the Hittites are now leaning against me, #2 and #4 are going after me.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8789/e11772om.jpg

So I decided to get #3, who is Russia, to help me.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3185/e11781rb.jpg

Next time - Will any more nations get involved in this mess?

Sima Qian
Mar 14, 2006, 10:35 PM
Was Catherine willing to do any GPT deal for the alliance? I'd be a bit nervous if Russia signs peace in 5 turns or so...

Ansar
Mar 15, 2006, 05:54 AM
Dang, that sucks when a warrior beats another warrior.:mad: :scan:

Nevertheless, you will overcome it.:goodjob:

conquer_dude
Mar 15, 2006, 04:34 PM
Yes, of course he will overcome it. But you are pretty far away from domination. :wow:

The 777 Hoax
Mar 15, 2006, 07:00 PM
Yay! War! Go get 'em, stocktracker!

Takeo
Mar 15, 2006, 09:01 PM
It looks like the Hittites are the superpower among the AI.:wow: Gang up on ol' Mursilis.:ninja:

stocktracker
Mar 15, 2006, 09:38 PM
For another luxury and to help my friend Russia out, I sell them Saltpeter.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8463/e11797cb.jpg

Now the sides are three against two. And with the Portuguese making their small impact, they are the most powerful alliance.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3757/e11804sd.jpg

It may be a good idea to draw someone else into this alliance to avoid a war with the Hittites. Germany is now in the alliance, and we are the most powerful.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1151/e11815zv.jpg

The Mayans join on the American-led side, making 4 against 3. The sides are even. A world war will start if the Hittites declare war against us.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3990/e11827vc.jpg

The Americans got another city, at least my chances of winning was about .5%. As you can tell at the bottom of the picture, the cities to the south have been better defended.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/875/e11836gu.jpg

Now four nations are against the Americans, and our alliance takes the lead (again).

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8869/e11841kt.jpg

This had to expire, they are a member of our alliance now.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/70/e11853sb.jpg

America wants peace after Russia has been moving in, but I say no. The world's technology rate will slow down if everyone is at war, but I will remain unaffected.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7729/e11868lb.jpg

The Russians may be getting too powerful, they captured the American cities that I once had.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6780/e11879da.jpg

This is bad, I don't want Russia to get any more cities out of this war! They may compete with me soon.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3382/e11888ve.jpg

And the world is a mess, but I do have plenty of allies to sell things to.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1628/e11892az.jpg

Next time - Will Russia get more American cities?

Ansar
Mar 16, 2006, 05:51 AM
Great update, though it would have been better to attack the cavalry, you would have gotten a higher chance of killing.;) :p

I doubt Russia will get more American cities, they are probably going to sign peace.Or ... well, thats what the AI's normally does, take a few cities, and sign peace, thats how I know it.:hmm:

Mirc
Mar 16, 2006, 11:41 AM
Great update, good luck with the game!

BuckyRea
Mar 16, 2006, 02:02 PM
Man, Lincoln is TOAST. Might as well send him to the theatre at this point. Do you think you can whittle his empire down to nothing, or is a simple contraction all he's in for?

conquer_dude
Mar 16, 2006, 03:54 PM
I think you really need to get the world against Mursilis to nock out the AI superpower, and you will probably get all the cities.

FascistRepublic
Mar 16, 2006, 04:50 PM
This world looks like a carnival!

stocktracker
Mar 16, 2006, 09:53 PM
I am making good money after selling most of my luxuries and my resources.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/516/e11904ig.jpg

And Russia drops out of the war, that may encourage me to get out as well.

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1319/e11914yq.jpg

That made my decision, I don't want to lose any more cities.

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/2278/e11924ci.jpg

Ten gold a turn for peace, not too bad. The Americans have a much better chance of survival after the Russians backed off.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1840/e11930qy.jpg

Relations with Germany have fallen because I got out early, but I will sell products with them to keep them happy.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8540/e11951gy.jpg

The Hittites are against the Americans, two against one!

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/9109/e11964hq.jpg

This had to end, it never did anything. The Hittites do not offer enough for my technologies.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4606/e11974ht.jpg

And Portugal sides with the Americans, leading to Portugal and the Americans are against the Hittites and the Germans.

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/9508/e11985ql.jpg

Germany gives me a joke offer, I don't even need democracy.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6946/e11997sp.jpg

And the sides are even again. America is safe. I am getting lost in how quickly things are going!

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7290/e12001pe.jpg

Next time - Will the mess of the alliances continue, and is the world in a stalemate?

conquer_dude
Mar 16, 2006, 09:57 PM
Let the AI's fight like peas in a pot then attack and crush them all.

stocktracker
Mar 17, 2006, 09:41 PM
The Russians give me this horrible deal, but they are willing to give much more for it.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6666/e12018mx.jpg

The Russians have money, although they don't want to spend it.

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4636/e12026ct.jpg

I don't know why that ended...

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5874/e12036nn.jpg

Until I see this, another war against America?

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2349/e12048oy.jpg

In the Industrial Age, America has been at war with everyone at least once. America started on me, and it blew up into a huge incident.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2874/e12052kx.jpg

I get Medicine, and the Americans are willing to give something good for it. Getting Sanitation for the Americans is a good idea, since most of their cities are at size 12.

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4829/e12067cd.jpg

I get Nationalism from the Portuguese, they are suffering and I am not worried about them.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4315/e12075mu.jpg

I get Espionage from the Germans, but they also have big cities.

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/6895/e12083yt.jpg

The Russians gave me good money, they did offer less, but I increased it.

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7736/e12090mq.jpg

The Hittites are bad trading partners, they never seem to offer anything worthwhile. They may take the lead in science, but relations with other nations is poor.

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/1839/e12109da.jpg

Next time - Will I go after Portugal after I take a closer look at the world map?

Ansar
Mar 17, 2006, 10:10 PM
Yes, death to Portugal, end it once and for all.:devil:

Are you planning on switching to Communism?:mischief:

conquer_dude
Mar 17, 2006, 10:34 PM
I would definantly kill Portugal. They are only worth killing. That's why the guy was born. BUT wait for the war with Portugal and America to win, I wonder how many cities the sides would get.

Just some suggestions. ;)

azzaman333
Mar 18, 2006, 02:01 AM
Hitties dont have Replaceable Prats yet so they dont have infantry... :mischief:

Mirc
Mar 18, 2006, 06:40 AM
Kill anyone, but kill!

FascistRepublic
Mar 18, 2006, 07:07 AM
I would definantly kill Portugal. They are only worth killing. That's why the guy was born. BUT wait for the war with Portugal and America to win, I wonder how many cities the sides would get.

Just some suggestions. ;)

Henry wasn't born to die. It's just He was recreated to die.:goodjob:

stocktracker
Mar 18, 2006, 10:14 PM
Are you planning on switching to Communism?

No, then corruption is shared, and cities far away from the capital have one more trade at the most while my core cities have even slower production. I am not hitting the unit limit under Monarchy, so switching to Communism is unnecessary.

The Industrial Age wonders have started to be built, the first is by Russia.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8269/e12117sf.jpg

The Portuguese are losing ground against the Germans. I realize that I need to get a piece of the pie before Germany gets everything.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/766/e12123ga.jpg

Now Portugal can be all mine!

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4899/e12136dq.jpg

Attacks will start on a small colony island that is east of the capital.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1232/e12147he.jpg

At least the Americans did not get that one, since they have the culture lead.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8645/e12157kq.jpg

Six Cavalry should get both cities if Spearmen are defending.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2963/e12167ou.jpg

Both of the cities are taken easily next turn, and looking at some of the boats coming towards me, a peace treaty may be a good idea.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5614/e12171qo.jpg

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8199/e12182qb.jpg

Germany gives me a good price for a luxury, and I am making good money off a 100% science rate.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3127/e12196mt.jpg

The war ends, but I got another city, and I was happy.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3718/e12203ep.jpg

The city is very far away, and I may not be able to hold on to it for very long.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9035/e12214rb.jpg

Next time - A great technological leap comes for Japan, how will it happen?

Sima Qian
Mar 18, 2006, 10:26 PM
With 1 turn on scientific method, I think it's pretty obvious...

conquer_dude
Mar 18, 2006, 11:08 PM
Go for it! Take out Portugal! :thumbsup:

FascistRepublic
Mar 19, 2006, 04:54 AM
Good job. This looks like it will be your first wonder to.:goodjob:

DAv2003
Mar 19, 2006, 08:29 AM
I think it may have been a bad idea to make peace so early with Portugal. A prolonged war would have really stuffed them with so few cities. Other than that, doing good so far!

stocktracker
Mar 19, 2006, 02:54 PM
Using scientific method, I am getting some of the techs that I am missing out on. America gives me a great offer on this, it was much more that I thought they would give me.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1883/e12232fu.jpg

I give three big techs for two smaller ones and some more money. The Hittites are not the fastest in technology research.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6599/e12242wb.jpg

Portugal is so weak at this point that technology will not help them, but I get another small tech.

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/9118/e12251kf.jpg

I built an embassy with the Mayans, they have techs that I may want to steal.

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/475/e12269ir.jpg

I steal Refining from the Russians, remember that I have plenty of money.

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/7650/e12272jp.jpg

And I steal Steel from the Mayans, now I am one of the frontrunners in technology.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7428/e12280yi.jpg

Oil and Rubber have been found on that colony island that I recently took over from the Portuguese. I have no other source of these two resources, so I was very lucky!

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9201/e12297fg.jpg

Russia is developing faster than the Americas, and I am still distancing myself from the Hittites.

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/7950/e12307dw.jpg

Russia is the new target for war, several civilizations are at war with them.

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/7231/e12315vc.jpg

Next time - I have helped Russia for a long time, what will be the consequences for this?

conquer_dude
Mar 19, 2006, 03:01 PM
Defeat them.

Sima Qian
Mar 19, 2006, 03:05 PM
Eh, you can build settlers in a city with a bunch of Portuguese citizens? How does that work?

stocktracker
Mar 19, 2006, 03:39 PM
Eh, you can build settlers in a city with a bunch of Portuguese citizens? How does that work?

I rush built it, I don't see how that couldn't work.

Sima Qian
Mar 19, 2006, 03:49 PM
I rush built it, I don't see how that couldn't work.

No, I meant that I thought the citizens would have to be Japanese in order for you to build a settler. It just doesn't sound right for you to be able to get a settler out of there who is actually Portuguese in nationality... how would you build a city with that?

Ansar
Mar 19, 2006, 04:03 PM
It would make the settler portuguese and then, when you settel the city, the first citizen will be Portuguese.:crazyeye:

stocktracker
Mar 20, 2006, 10:11 PM
This is one of the few times that I have got through my entire city list twice.

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/2149/e12321mj.jpg

I guess I am still doing okay on my 6% literacy rate, and I am still #1 in land area.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1338/e12331aw.jpg

Russia's and Portugal's war was not much of an event, they were too far away to do anything to each other.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8367/e12343al.jpg

I sell another luxury off the Russians, I need to get all of the money I can out of them.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5582/e12358qn.jpg

I figured my Mutual Protection Pact would come to haunt me, Russia and Germany have been fighting for at least 10 turns. Russia appears to be ahead.

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/9121/e12366dv.jpg

This city will become a target in the war, so I have a plan so I can keep it.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/907/e12376ae.jpg

I will give it to the Portuguese for free, then I can take it back when I need to.

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/4365/e12385mx.jpg

The Russians have this and I steal it off of them, stealing is becoming important to keep up.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4026/e12399ns.jpg

The Russians have about 7 luxuries by now, and at this point, they need them. I am still worried about Russia becoming more powerful than other nearby civilizations.

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/9273/e12402yk.jpg

The Americans and the Russians are having the biggest problems right now, with at least three wars going on.

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/7254/e12416jl.jpg

Next time - Alliances are still causing a huge problem, how will that ever be fixed?

DAv2003
Mar 21, 2006, 03:43 AM
By destroying everybody! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

stocktracker
Mar 21, 2006, 06:56 PM
Those Germans are still causing problems for me, thanks to the Russians.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/563/e12428iv.jpg

I am not getting my end of the deal on this, I'm at war with two civilizations because of them!

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7312/e12435xr.jpg

America is now in better shape, they have been a target lately.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7093/e12443ke.jpg

Someday Russia will fall for causing some many problems in the world, that is usually my job!

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/4756/e12456cg.jpg

Knowing that the Russians won't get into anymore wars anytime soon because they having problems with their current wars, I resign the deal.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/903/e12467ni.jpg

This came up one turn later, and I wanted to make a statement to Russia, so I cut the deal. Peace with Germany is a good idea, they are a technological leader.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/6933/e12479gz.jpg

Meanwhile, the Mayans have put troops on my land, but I have enough troops to take care of it.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1708/e12485vg.jpg

My spies are going to go to Germany next, with two new free techs!

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/4299/e12497xw.jpg

Although this deal seems unbalanced, the Americans are less of a threat and I need another luxury.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/6786/e12505cm.jpg

I get Flight, this is actually the farthest I have got in technology in any of my games.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8268/e12513yx.jpg

Next time - Japan becomes an economic power, how will I get all of that money?
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/1392/e12609mh.jpg

The 777 Hoax
Mar 21, 2006, 07:13 PM
Obi-Wan comes and uses the Force to give you all that money.

conquer_dude
Mar 21, 2006, 09:00 PM
Great update! :goodjob: You really ahven't been conquering lately. You seem a little "hesitent" on attack right now... :hmm:

Ansar
Mar 21, 2006, 09:54 PM
Nice update, the fact that you are not in war right now is because you are preparing for a big war right...?:cool:

So, that us readers, can get back for all those stealing updates of no-war.:D

azzaman333
Mar 22, 2006, 02:32 AM
Great update! :goodjob: You really ahven't been conquering lately. You seem a little "hesitent" on attack right now... :hmm:

You'd be more hesitant to attack too if you were playing on higher levels.

Mirc
Mar 22, 2006, 04:50 AM
You never got in the Modern Age?

xurol
Mar 22, 2006, 11:02 AM
That'd be a shame. Modern age warfare is fun...especially when you get to nukes :nuke:

killerkid
Mar 22, 2006, 06:57 PM
This has nothing to do with the last update, but i didn't see you use ANY samurai. No GA yet, you might want to whip a couple samurai out to kill a cavalry and start it.

Takeo
Mar 22, 2006, 08:32 PM
Next time - Japan becomes an economic power, how will I get all of that money?


Well, you gpt is around 70 to 100 gold per turn while researching. So, you turn off research and enter a golden age?

stocktracker
Mar 22, 2006, 09:32 PM
You never got in the Modern Age?

No, but this is the first game in my series here that I am getting close to that point.

The money seems to be rolling in, the Hittites have plenty of it.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3357/e12524ho.jpg

I will steal Germany's other tech from the Theory of Evolution, making us even.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1043/e12538vb.jpg

And the Hittites offer a nice cash sum for it.

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/3881/e12549yb.jpg

I need to end the war with the Mayans, I could use another trading partner to make money off of.

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5153/e12553bc.jpg

Japan's core cities are growing, in order to increase production.

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/406/e12569hf.jpg

I am getting a 130 gold per turn from the Hittites, so this a drop in the bucket compared to that.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6281/e12577xv.jpg

Germany is trying to get a spy in my capital, but I don't know why. Maybe so they can "check up" on the space race that is likely to start soon.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6643/e12589pk.jpg

Germany gives all of their money to me, making me very wealthy. As long as I stay out of war with the Germans and the Hittites, I should be okay.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3145/e12591me.jpg

Recently, Portugal has been in several wars with different civilizations, and they are down to this. At least it will not be taken by culture, since it is their capital and last city.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4743/e12610sg.jpg

As you can tell, I am going after it. It will be easier than a cakewalk.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2311/e12628jk.jpg

Next time - Will problems come up if I declare war with Portugal?

azzaman333
Mar 22, 2006, 09:38 PM
Will problems come up if I declare war with Portugal?

Only if they have MPP's.

from looking at the minimap in your last screeny, Get an ROP with Germany, build up an army a put it on the German-Mayan border and attack the Maya. They appear to be the weakest civ that actually matters.

Sima Qian
Mar 22, 2006, 10:40 PM
Just be careful not to get a reputation hit and move out before declaring war. Heh, they can't even draft from that city, so you're in no hurry.

conquer_dude
Mar 23, 2006, 05:10 PM
I would just knock them out without second thought.

stocktracker
Mar 23, 2006, 09:40 PM
Yes, the Mayans did declare war on me, but I doubt they will do much.

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7360/e12637hw.jpg

With no military units in that city I gave them, I got their capital and last city easily.

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/2682/e12648at.jpg

One less nation, but one more war to deal with.

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/4376/e12651ot.jpg

The Germans have lost Stuttgart to the Russians. With Russia's high population, they are quickly drafting units.

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/3347/e12663vv.jpg

Although this tech is not necessary to get into the Modern Age, I bet I could sell it for some money. The Germans are still the technological leader.

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1695/e12676dx.jpg

I am now 100 points ahead of the Hittites in terms of score, while a big gap is still between second and third place.

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4785/e12682eu.jpg

Over 1500 gold for that tech if they do not go to war with me anytime soon.

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8482/e12699jz.jpg

I could easily afford to set the science rate at 200% if I were allowed to.

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/6575/e12700vz.jpg

I am still not doing the best on Demographics, I am #1 on one important category.

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4848/e12719ot.jpg

It would be in my best interest to let the wars continue, it slows everyone down.

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4595/e12726qt.jpg

I was trading with Germany for techs to begin with, and their money is all that I need from them.

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/3097/e12738rw.jpg

Next time - The Russians get into war with everyone except for me, how will that affect them?

conquer_dude
Mar 23, 2006, 09:51 PM
It will make them die and you will laugh.

azzaman333
Mar 24, 2006, 04:09 AM
Attack those Mayans!

DAv2003
Mar 24, 2006, 05:11 AM
If Russia declares war on everyone, you may as well join in and get a slice of the pie.

Takeo
Mar 24, 2006, 07:03 AM
That was an awesome chunk of change you got from Germany for Atomic Theory!:wow:

FascistRepublic
Mar 24, 2006, 06:24 PM
I'd just take out the maya, there weak and utterly usless, then if russia survies, take em out. At that point, go for space race.:)

azzaman333
Mar 24, 2006, 07:52 PM
Take the Mayan Lands, then push hard for a space victory. The ex-Mayan and ex-Chinese land will be perfect for scientist farms.

stocktracker
Mar 24, 2006, 09:37 PM
The pressure against Russia is starting to build, the Germans, the Mayans, and the Americans are after them.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4071/e12742ex.jpg

The Mayans want to end this war, they have to focus on the Russians.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8443/e12757an.jpg

Russia is now at war with everyone except for me, and my reputation with them is barely anything. Still Russia will not start a war with me, they are going to be busy. Bombers attacked that transport, so the AI are using airplanes now.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8816/e12766fd.jpg

At this time, the only nation that I can safely declare war against is the Mayans, they are not very strong, and I have no deals with them.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3773/e12778jx.jpg

Former China is now full of my cities, and it is providing about 150 beakers a turn out of them.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6465/e12788ev.jpg

The Mayans give me a good deal, hopefully the next twenty turns will be peaceful!

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3093/e12795cf.jpg

The Russians, who were once a technological leader, has fallen behind me, Germany, and the Hittites. Russia still has money, something that I always welcome.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/96/e12804nc.jpg

And here is a picture of the global campaign against the Russians, there are no other wars even going on.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6740/e12815yk.jpg

Next time - Several nations enter the Modern Age, and the Americans are at 1/3 of the 100K culture limit. Can my low producing core cities make anything fast enough to win the space race?

conquer_dude
Mar 24, 2006, 09:42 PM
How did Russia get furious with you??

The 777 Hoax
Mar 24, 2006, 09:44 PM
Yes they can. Because America is dumb (in the game...)

Sima Qian
Mar 24, 2006, 10:28 PM
Yuck, you don't have oil or rubber? How are you ever going to get tanks?

azzaman333
Mar 25, 2006, 02:07 AM
Yuck, you don't have oil or rubber? How are you ever going to get tanks?

He has 2 oil and 1 rubber, just they arent connected.

Dowhook
Mar 25, 2006, 02:15 AM
This is a really interesting read. Keep up the good work and stick it to the AI!

Sima Qian
Mar 25, 2006, 02:16 AM
He has 2 oil and 1 rubber, just they arent connected.

Ahh right. I forgot about that silly little Portuguese island, I'm sure you'll have those hooked up soon.

Good luck!

stocktracker
Mar 25, 2006, 09:25 PM
Other civilizations are slowly backing off of the Russians, that is good because they are taking a beating.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1284/e12820lr.jpg

I am currently pulling in 734 gold per turn from other civs, it may be the highest it will ever get.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1630/e12833wj.jpg

I still have a culture that is about 1/7 of the Americans, but I doubt the Americans will win by a cultural victory.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/6704/e12843ql.jpg

After one deal with the Hittites expired, I get another one going to keep the money supply up.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1278/e12853gw.jpg

The Hittites may be my next target for stealing technologies, so I build an embassy there.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7151/e12866ri.jpg

The Russians are poorer, but I don't want them to die at the expense of the other civilizations gaining ground.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/8224/e12873qn.jpg

Germany has now hit the Modern Age, and as a scientific civilization, they get a free tech at the beginning of each era.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3585/e12885mu.jpg

And Japan is only 2 turns behind, I am going after Germany's free tech.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8472/e12892cb.jpg

I get this message on the first try, but I still have plenty of money.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3626/e12909dy.jpg

But I did get it, off to the Hittites.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7137/e12916jf.jpg

Over 7000 gold, pending if we are at peace for 20 turns.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9652/e12926zz.jpg

Next time - What has Russia gained and lost in the global campaign against them?

The 777 Hoax
Mar 25, 2006, 09:47 PM
Yeah! The Modern Age! Here we go, baby!!

Lord_Iggy
Mar 25, 2006, 09:55 PM
Ka-chinga-chinga! Modern Age! Woot!

FascistRepublic
Mar 26, 2006, 06:04 AM
Gonna be a race to space, alright!

conquer_dude
Mar 26, 2006, 01:15 PM
Nukes First!!! :D

stocktracker
Mar 27, 2006, 10:05 PM
Nukes First!!!

I am trying to keep this peaceful, although it is different from my usual habits. In a war, I would lose some of my colonies because I am not very prepared.

Russia's losses in the wars against them were tremendous, they even lost a city that is right by the capital.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/941/e12930cz.jpg

Edo is shaping up to be my biggest manufacturing city, is currently producing 36 shields a turn. After a power plant is built there, it should be over 50.

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/7739/e12946vb.jpg

The Russians got their city near the capital back, and the Russians are in a little better shape.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3205/e12959uh.jpg

Still, Russia is one of the most populated nations of the world, they are far ahead of me, but that may change soon.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4198/e12961zt.jpg

Russia gets out of another war for a turn...

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/310/e12977za.jpg

...but the Americans start the war again a take a big reputation hit with everyone.

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/1378/e12980yp.jpg

If I am getting over 100 gold per turn off of the Hittites, would it make any sense to reject this?

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2884/e12994np.jpg

The Russians did make some gains on the Americans, this is good since the world is keeping in balance. As long as one superpower does not form, I have a decent chance of winning.

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/6061/e13009ot.jpg

This may help Germany's future in the space race, when they get the technology to start it.

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3690/e13018hh.jpg

And the Russians have advanced into the Modern Age, and they are scientific, so I need to steal a tech from them and sell it to other people.

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/8913/e13028ft.jpg

The Germans give a decent offer, that will be enough to recover the cost.

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/204/e13032hg.jpg

Next time - The Manhattan Project and the United Nations is built, will this affect the game by calling for a UN vote?

Ansar
Mar 28, 2006, 06:22 AM
No, because you will raze the city with the UN.:D

conquer_dude
Mar 28, 2006, 07:09 AM
No, because you will raze the city with the UN.:D
Good point.

How far ahead is America in culture now?

DAv2003
Mar 28, 2006, 12:28 PM
Best bribe everyone if the U.N. is built.

Vind2
Mar 28, 2006, 03:13 PM
Just read everything :D gonna follow this one :D

The 777 Hoax
Mar 28, 2006, 03:53 PM
Geesh, that Lincoln. What a bum.

Ansar
Mar 28, 2006, 06:19 PM
Also, I've never seen the Hitties in the Modern Age.:eek:

Seeing as how they always never reach the Modern Age.

conquer_dude
Mar 28, 2006, 07:31 PM
Also, I've never seen the Hitties in the Modern Age.:eek:

Seeing as how they always never reach the Modern Age.
That makes me crack up. :lol:

Vind2
Mar 28, 2006, 09:42 PM
Also, I've never seen the Hitties in the Modern Age.:eek:

Seeing as how they always never reach the Modern Age.
A real shock is Joan de Arc in the modern age
:eek: :eek: :eek: :cry: :eek:

stocktracker
Mar 28, 2006, 10:23 PM
How far ahead is America in culture now?

They have a little over 40,000 culture, which I doubt they will make it to 100K by the end of the space race.

And the Mayans give me a better deal for Computers than the Germans. The Germans have more money floating around somewhere.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7190/e13048nl.jpg

I sold this to the Russians to make sure they can't declare war against me, they can't live without it.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3332/e13055or.jpg

The Americans have fallen in power since the Middle Ages, so I let them have it for cheap.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8849/e13066qi.jpg

Another MPP with other nations, when will the wars ever end? This is still good for me.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7171/e13079wi.jpg

And another war starts, and they are wasting resources on the war instead of getting ready for the upcoming space race to end the game.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1061/e13081lz.jpg

Four wars are going on, it is a little better than it was in the late Industrial Age.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1688/e13095sm.jpg

Ugarit may be a good production city for space components soon, so I need to keep an eye on it. But to those who are watching, I doubt a nuclear war will every take place, unless I am behind on the space race and try a last ditch effort to get the capital.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/572/e13108ht.jpg

Germany builds the UN, and so they control the elections if they want to hold them. I am on the UN ballot, but the Hittites may or may not be considered for the vote.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2134/e13116vc.jpg

Next time - Will Germany want to hold elections? (Remember that most of the nations do not get along very well.)

Ansar
Mar 29, 2006, 06:17 AM
Yes, they will, but all nations will go abstain, except the 2 candidates, so, a tie.

conquer_dude
Mar 29, 2006, 08:21 AM
I think you would win the election. It migt be time to raze Berlin. :(

The 777 Hoax
Mar 29, 2006, 04:46 PM
I think you would win the election. It migt be time to raze Berlin. :(

I agree. Take 'em down!

Sima Qian
Mar 29, 2006, 05:53 PM
I highly doubt Germany will hold elections, but if they do, everyone is quite angry with you! Hopefully they'll mostly abstain, or split votes among the 3 candidates so there's no majority.

Does any other civ have space flight yet?

FascistRepublic
Mar 29, 2006, 07:25 PM
Wekk, I think it will be "super abstainer 3000" if theres an election.

stocktracker
Mar 29, 2006, 08:42 PM
Does any other civ have space flight yet?

No, I am trying to get it and I will sell it to no one. Even if I only get a 10 turn lead, it will be enough to start ahead of the Hittites, which is my main rival.

The Mayans finally have money, so I sell them another tech. Germany has decided not to hold elections, considering that it is in 2 wars right now. The world doesn't get along at all, so what will the UN ever do?

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4307/e13121xh.jpg

Germany is starting to take all of the wonders instead of the Mayans, could they be a rival in the space race?

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/4488/e13130be.jpg

Another war against the Maya, I doubt they will be a serious contender in the space race, but the have a few highly productive cities.

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3497/e13146ej.jpg

Peace? That is terrible, lets keep the world at war!

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4744/e13152se.jpg

No!!! Germany needs to waste money on its military!

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2448/e13165nx.jpg

The next few turns are better, it is a reverse of the last few. I wonder how low some reputation ratings are going?

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2110/e13171ki.jpg

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/940/e13180wm.jpg

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6509/e13197gr.jpg

The Hittites have a tech I want, and even though it is not shown here, they want about 18,000 gold for it.

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/610/e13208km.jpg

I steal it for 1/5 that, and I am on my way.

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6031/e13213sp.jpg

Next time - The Apollo Program is started, will I be the first one done?

Ansar
Mar 29, 2006, 08:51 PM
Sabotage or destroy by razing.:evil:

conquer_dude
Mar 29, 2006, 08:56 PM
Yeah, duh you're gunna kick butt.

The 777 Hoax
Mar 30, 2006, 06:43 PM
Yes! Space Race! I have a feeling this is going to be exciting...

stocktracker
Mar 30, 2006, 09:29 PM
After I stole Nuclear Power from the Hittites, I decided to sell it to two nations that have little chance of winning the space race. I got 140 gold per turn out of it, that isn't bad for those two nations.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8619/e13226et.jpg

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5576/e13230tp.jpg

Germany against Russia is a good fight, I was sad to see it end.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/3415/e13240jk.jpg

The space race will begin in 8 turns, after Edo completes the Apollo Program. And yes, that is my most productive city.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/3636/e13254dp.jpg

Although the Hittites give a good offer, I feel that I have enough money the way it is. They are my main rival, so I can't give them a head start.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8370/e13264pg.jpg

Another war comes up, and it is wasting time for the Germans, they could also be a threat.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8938/e13277jj.jpg

Two luxuries and 215 gold per turn, you can't beat that!

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4316/e13284aa.jpg

Meanwhile, the another tech gets discovered by the Hittites, and I decide to get it.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9671/e13292bj.jpg

I should get at least half of my investment back.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2199/e13302pa.jpg

Next time - The Apollo Program is projected to be done in three turns, can I get a decent head start?

conquer_dude
Mar 30, 2006, 09:37 PM
Yes you can. You will rule. :evil:

The 777 Hoax
Mar 30, 2006, 09:41 PM
Yeah, I was right. This'll be good.

Ansar
Mar 31, 2006, 05:59 AM
You havent built the Forbidden Palace?:dubious:

Build it in Edo, that will make it none to extremely little amounts of corruption.:)

FascistRepublic
Mar 31, 2006, 05:21 PM
This looks like youll win. You can crank out like parts from edo and a few others and really destroy. Good going!

stocktracker
Mar 31, 2006, 09:22 PM
You havent built the Forbidden Palace?

I wondered how I played through this part of the game and not notice that, thanks!

Finally, the Apollo Program is finished, it is time to start building space components.

http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/673/e13318pn.jpg

I get another good deal from the Americans, they have more money than I thought. (The Americans have fallen in power and have been overshadowed by the Germans and the Russians in the last age.)

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2424/e13328gq.jpg

I thought this could be useful, I need to send a spy to the Hittites right away.

http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/8294/e13331xz.jpg

As with any espionage mission, getting anything from Hittites is easy. Stealing from the Russians and the Germans is a bit more difficult.

http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/2847/e13340yp.jpg

I was hoping to stay out of wars for the rest of the game, but Russia declared war on me and started to pick on my colonies. Once my friend, the Russians are now my worst enemy.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4606/e13351hk.jpg

They threaten to attack New Satsuma and Omi, I got an easy way so the Russians don't get it.

http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/6612/e13369cu.jpg

I give seven cities to the Mayans, it is not a huge loss, as they do not produce much, and they have no good resources. The Mayans are under attack from the Hittites, and they may not live much longer.

http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/5778/e13378ud.jpg

The Mayans have it now, that will make for a huge drop for my power and score.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7689/e13383aq.jpg

And to make the Hittites mad, I slow their production down of the Apollo Program by a few turns.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3776/e13393rv.jpg

In the space race so far, I have a decent lead over the Hittites.

http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/5539/e13407ie.jpg

Next time - Will the Russians slow down my progress in the space race, and will the Mayans be completely taken over by the Hittites?

The 777 Hoax
Mar 31, 2006, 11:03 PM
Yeah! The Space Race begins, as well as espionage!

FascistRepublic
Apr 01, 2006, 04:54 AM
I'd say you will win. Good job!

conquer_dude
Apr 01, 2006, 10:52 AM
You will rule all! You can't be beat now!!

The 777 Hoax
Apr 01, 2006, 11:15 AM
Are you the tech leader as of now?

stocktracker
Apr 01, 2006, 08:38 PM
Are you the tech leader as of now?

Yes, and it should stay that way for the rest of the game, as long as people pay good money for my techs.

The weak Mayans do not give me much of a reason to do this, I can't afford a war with the Hittites at this point.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9273/e13414rq.jpg

I want these wars to continue, these nations need something to do.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4958/e13420un.jpg

Even though I am providing Germany with Oil, it is worth it for two luxuries.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8426/e13432md.jpg

The Americans are appearing to be in much better shape than they were before, could they be a possible threat?

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8973/e13440ji.jpg

I am only one turn away, and I could spend it to do better things.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9809/e13452md.jpg

At least the Hittites did not get this money, I could always use it for something.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8828/e13462fb.jpg

In less than ten turns, my spaceship will be halfway done, and the Hittites have not even started.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6483/e13471nx.jpg

As for the Mayans, they were lucky to get my cities, otherwise they would be out of the game quickly. The Hittites are still going after them.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6255/e13489xt.jpg

I don't like the Russians, and the Mayans are harmless, so this won't do anything.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9609/e13498ep.jpg

This is from the Russians, what do you expect.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3112/e13507hm.jpg

Finally a peace treaty is signed after they started to dump units on my main island. The capital is well defended, so that shouldn't be a problem.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3429/e13510fc.jpg

Next time - The Hittites start to build space components, will they catch up to me?

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2797/10009745fs.jpg
(Picture of Mars taken on 2004/07/31.)

conquer_dude
Apr 01, 2006, 08:49 PM
:D Awesome screen of Mars! As for the Mayans, they're out of it.

Sima Qian
Apr 01, 2006, 10:33 PM
Well, let's see Mursilis get 10 great leaders and rush his ship!

(kidding)

conquer_dude
Apr 01, 2006, 10:39 PM
Well, let's see Mursilis get 10 great leaders and rush his ship!

(kidding)
The AI would probably be too stupid to rush it with a leader. They would make a 1-unit army as usual. :lol:

FascistRepublic
Apr 02, 2006, 06:46 AM
I'd say only the Hittes and Japan have a chance now.

stocktracker
Apr 02, 2006, 08:36 AM
Well, let's see Mursilis get 10 great leaders and rush his ship!

Even if he had 10 of them, it wouldn't matter because I am still technologically ahead of them. I am using the Palace prebuild to get ready for all of the new components.

DAv2003
Apr 02, 2006, 08:48 AM
I think you may have this game in the bag...

Eltrai
Apr 03, 2006, 02:21 PM
Nice Strategies and great play you deserve this win!

stocktracker
Apr 03, 2006, 10:27 PM
Another war, it finally time for America to take over its continent. Currently the Hittites have one city on it, and the Germans have 2.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5685/e13526rm.jpg

The Mayans are down to five small cities that I gave them, they should thank the Russians for that.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/828/e13530sx.jpg

The Hittites have completed one component, but they are still behind me.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/9530/e13540jp.jpg

Half of my ship is done, and the Hittites are getting another one ready.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6130/e13550tk.jpg

They complete it, so it is now Japan 5, and the Hittites 2.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8553/e13565qg.jpg

Germany and Russia make a equal fight, but I doubt peace will last for long.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6323/e13574yi.jpg

Another nation against the Hittites, it may hinder their progress scientifically.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/3159/e13580jd.jpg

The Americans are slowly starting to come back, and they have the money to show it.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5652/e13598jf.jpg

The nation is booming, the economy is doing very well with no unit support costs, and low maintenance costs. Foreign money drives the economy to the world's best.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8914/nikkei4kq.jpg

I complete my sixth part, but for the rest of it, I need better technologies to continue.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5336/e13608pk.jpg

Although Ecology is not needed for any space parts, it is needed to get to Synthetic Fibers, then I can build Modern Armor, but I doubt that will make much of an impact in the game.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/3049/e13611tt.jpg

Same with Miniaturization, but I can build the Internet from it, and it is being built in Edo. It should trigger a golden age, in which I can end the game quickly.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3763/e13621aw.jpg

Next time - Three techs are left, will the AI research any of them so I can steal them for next to nothing?

Ansar
Apr 04, 2006, 06:43 AM
You havent had a golden age?:dubious:

Does Edo have a nuclear plant for mass shield production?:)

Takeo
Apr 04, 2006, 02:22 PM
Bring on that Golden Age!!!

This is getting pretty close to the end. Could there be a 'Japan on Deity' anywhere in the near future?:mischief:

Ansar
Apr 04, 2006, 05:11 PM
I think stocktracker needs more emperor games before he moves up. No offense, stocktracker.:blush:

The 777 Hoax
Apr 04, 2006, 05:53 PM
The Golden Age should help out A LOT. Are you going to get a spy into any other civs and see how far along they are?

conquer_dude
Apr 04, 2006, 06:23 PM
I think stocktracker needs more emperor games before he moves up. No offense, stocktracker.:blush:
Actually, I can't see how that could be offensive to anyone. It's best if you play more games so you'll get better.

Just like he did with regent. ;)

Looking good, and you've got it in the bag and I think this one's yours!:)

Takeo
Apr 04, 2006, 08:46 PM
I think stocktracker needs more emperor games before he moves up. No offense, stocktracker.:blush:

Yes, I played on emperor many, many times before moving up.:)

stocktracker
Apr 04, 2006, 09:27 PM
Are you going to get a spy into any other civs and see how far along they are?

I will soon with two other nations that may be ready to build space components.

Does Edo have a nuclear plant for mass shield production?

No, it has a hydro plant, I don't want it to blow up and ruin my last chance at getting my golden age!

You havent had a golden age?

No, and I think all of the AI nations have had their Golden Age, so no one will be able to catch me.

Could there be a 'Japan on Deity' anywhere in the near future?
I think stocktracker needs more emperor games before he moves up.

I will play some more emperor games before moving up to deity, probably one on Pangaea. I don't think I will post them, this game alone will have over 400 images, and that takes a long time to get up.

Despite the fact the Russia gets a free tech when they get to a new age, they have fallen significantly in technology over the last 50 turns.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7732/e13635og.jpg

And the Victory Status screen tells me that I am only #1 on score, and I did lose my #1 on land area after the last war with the Russians.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/4025/e13643mi.jpg

Japan's power is declining, while the Hittites' are advancing. It is a good thing this game won't last longer than 50 more turns. I am also very happy that the Hittites have not to declare war on me yet.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1776/e13656of.jpg

My military is fifth ahead of the Mayans, and Productivity and Manufactured Goods are also near last.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/911/e13669kp.jpg

After that war, the Mayans are in trouble, they better hope that the Americans or the Russians do not go after them.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4905/e13676nq.jpg

Although Germany could be a threat in the space race, I think they are behind the Hittites, and I am getting all of the new techs right away to keep me in the lead.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3336/e13681yo.jpg

For the Americans it was common sense, no threat in the space race, and over 5000 gold, even wealthy nations like Germany can't keep up with that.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7058/e13691jo.jpg

And how does this change the game, Germany getting the rest of the Mayans cities won't do them much good.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2679/e13701ut.jpg

The Hittites add their third part to the spaceship, and I still have a good lead.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/2720/e13717vl.jpg

I now have seven parts done, and the Hittites are on their fourth.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/5235/e13720ra.jpg

Next time - A competition comes up between two cities to get the last wonder built in this game, who will it be, Rostov, or Edo?

conquer_dude
Apr 04, 2006, 09:47 PM
Edo of course. :D

The 777 Hoax
Apr 04, 2006, 09:49 PM
Dang. I wanna know which wonder it is. :lol:

Lord_Iggy
Apr 05, 2006, 12:45 AM
Woot! Go Takeo!

Ansar
Apr 05, 2006, 06:23 AM
Woot! Go Takeo!


You means stocktracker right...?;)

popewiz
Apr 05, 2006, 08:33 AM
First of all, great journal. I've only just started my first game at monarch, but I was wondering how useful ICS is in corrupt areas? I saw that after you took out china you started building cities every other square, does it make a significant amount of money? Also, what improvements (if any) do you build in those cities?

azzaman333
Apr 05, 2006, 08:42 AM
First of all, great journal. I've only just started my first game at monarch, but I was wondering how useful ICS is in corrupt areas? I saw that after you took out china you started building cities every other square, does it make a significant amount of money? Also, what improvements (if any) do you build in those cities?

Best way to use corrupt lands is to ICS it, irrigate everythings, turn as many of the citizens into scientists as possible without starving, non buildings in the city, except for the rare temple and or aquaduct.

stocktracker
Apr 05, 2006, 08:47 PM
First of all, great journal. I've only just started my first game at monarch, but I was wondering how useful ICS is in corrupt areas? I saw that after you took out china you started building cities every other square, does it make a significant amount of money? Also, what improvements (if any) do you build in those cities?

I did an experiment to determine how much my colonies were producing. With my colonies, I could get a tech in 12 turns, but without them, it would take 19 turns. Everything that azzaman said is right, but since I was in Monarchy, I never bothered getting the colonies past size 6, unless they were on a river. In Republic, you get three unit support for a city, so it is a good idea to build an aqueduct to get the city to size 7 to get that support.

The Germans are developing in technology, and they have a few highly productive cities, so I think they will start to build space components.

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/9318/e13732jt.jpg

The Americans failed to get that Hittite city, but they did manage to get one German city.

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/637/e13745is.jpg

The Hittites are continuing on their ship, but it they were smarter, they would declare war on me. With enough damage, some resources could be gone and the tech rate could slow down enough to let them win.

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/289/e13753zf.jpg

The Russians have built plenty of wonders, and they have also caught up enough in technology to start building for the space race.

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/8218/e13768le.jpg

Noticing that the city of Rostov was about to steal my golden age, I sabotaged production for 15,000 gold. I have money, I need to use it somehow!

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/6590/e13773bq.jpg

The next turn, Edo completes the Internet and my golden age begins. With only two techs to go that will take less than 20 turns to research, it looks like the golden age will last through the end of the game.

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/1352/e13783ti.jpg

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/3413/e13793qg.jpg

Every other nation in the space race builds one space component, and I am still waiting for better technology.

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/4703/e13808lf.jpg

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/6345/e13818su.jpg

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/4492/e13825aa.jpg

Next time - Will a nuclear war with anyone kill my chance at winning the space race?

conquer_dude
Apr 05, 2006, 09:14 PM
Nah, I don't think so because you ahve your golden age, unless some spy sabatoges your production, which would really suck.

azzaman333
Apr 06, 2006, 01:24 AM
I'd be very worried about the Hittites starting a nuclear war.

conquer_dude
Apr 06, 2006, 04:00 PM
But stocktracker also is making ICBM's so he can return the favor. :nuke:

The 777 Hoax
Apr 06, 2006, 08:14 PM
The Hittites are continuing on their ship, but it they were smarter, they would declare war on me. With enough damage, some resources could be gone and the tech rate could slow down enough to let them win.

If the AI were smarter? HAHAHAHAHAA!!! :lol: You make me laugh!

Just kidding. :goodjob: Great job so far! The race to space is really looking good!

stocktracker
Apr 06, 2006, 09:10 PM
My first ICBM is built, and it is a start if anyone declares war on me, I can strike back.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/2237/e13837pm.jpg

At this rate, it will only be 12 more turns until the game is over, unless my tech rate slows down.

http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/1035/e13846yh.jpg

I still need one component to win, and no one else is getting close enough to steal my victory.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9327/e13859qq.jpg

The next ten turns are self-explanatory with the pictures, nations are building more space components, and ending wars.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/245/e13864ia.jpg

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1906/e13876nr.jpg

http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/9272/e13881qy.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2489/e13896yb.jpg

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7342/e13901ho.jpg

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8051/e13919nh.jpg

And now with only one turn on Robotics, the victory is coming into sight. The planned ending year is A.D. 1884.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5820/e13928et.jpg

Next time - With no obstacles left in sight, will this be a quick victory?

EDIT: Images are now fixed.

conquer_dude
Apr 06, 2006, 09:15 PM
I think so! But I'll find out tomorrow night! :D

Mirc
Apr 07, 2006, 04:15 AM
I can't see some of the pictures.
BTW, good luck!

azzaman333
Apr 07, 2006, 07:03 AM
If anyone has nukes, BE VERY CAREFUL.

FascistRepublic
Apr 07, 2006, 12:24 PM
Just fire that icbm for the hell of it. Make sure u do it on the maya tho since its very unlikley they have nukes.

The 777 Hoax
Apr 07, 2006, 01:57 PM
Just fire that icbm for the hell of it. Make sure u do it on the maya tho since its very unlikley they have nukes.

I'll have to disagree here. On Emperor, you don't want to anything just for the heck of it. There are many things that can go wrong without adding to the list :).

FascistRepublic
Apr 07, 2006, 02:34 PM
I'll have to disagree here. On Emperor, you don't want to anything just for the heck of it. There are many things that can go wrong without adding to the list :).

Oh, thanks for telling me. I play Regent so i wouldnt know.

conquer_dude
Apr 07, 2006, 08:33 PM
Even on regent I wouldn't. Maybe on the last turn, when the next button your gonna press is that shiny, wonderful, glorious, awesome button that says "launch"

stocktracker
Apr 07, 2006, 09:29 PM
Make sure u do it on the maya tho since its very unlikley they have nukes.

I tried that after I was done with the game, every nation declared war on me except for Germany.

A last minute war is taking place, but why are they not attacking me?

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/7924/e13937jj.jpg

The last space component only costs 320 shields, and I have about 700 built up from the Palace prebuild.

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/2649/e13944ka.jpg

The Hittites and Germans add another part to their ship, but it won't make a difference.

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/9527/e13958fz.jpg

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/8875/e13960kz.jpg

At the end of the space race, the Hittites got close, but I was technologically ahead of them.

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1650/e13977xk.jpg

I hit the "Launch" button and I ended the game. I'm surprised that it only took 13 hours, it seemed much longer.

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6780/e13988ay.jpg

Update continued on next post

stocktracker
Apr 07, 2006, 09:33 PM
One of the things you can tell off of the final map is that the Mayans don't have long to live with the Americans after them.

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/7740/e13994ue.jpg

And I won the game with no #1's in Demographics or none of the top five cities.

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/4057/e14005ns.jpg

Things have not changed since I last looked at this, but culturally I caught up a little bit.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/741/e14018dx.jpg

My score in this game is lower than my Monarch game, but that also ended much sooner.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/34/e14020ix.jpg

Towards the end, Japan's power was fading, so at least the game does not continue until the Hittites declare war on me and take me over.

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/4610/e14037ep.jpg

This is a far cry of my Chieftain games I used to play, I used to kill everyone culturally.

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/7662/e14043yt.jpg

Any score about or above 3300 gets the best rating, which I have got for my last three games.

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/856/e14058ex.jpg

Although my Palace was never completed, I wouldn't mind living there.

http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/6344/e14067qi.jpg

And the final game save, which is located in the first post, it would be interesting to see if you got into a war with anyone, but I do not want to handle that mess.

Some of my biggest mistakes of this game were -
1. Not being aggressive enough early on
2. Not building the Forbidden Palace
3. Breaking a MPP in the Industrial Age to drop relations with everyone significantly.
Because of this, the game was a little closer than it should have been.

I don't have plans to make another game for awhile, it will take some time until I build up to Deity.

azzaman333
Apr 07, 2006, 09:46 PM
Do another Emperor game, but make it a pangea or continents. That way you'll need to worry a lot more about your neighbours early in the game.

carmen510
Apr 08, 2006, 12:17 PM
Nice game! I only got to 3rd rank on that bell thingy.

The 777 Hoax
Apr 08, 2006, 07:01 PM
Very nice! I only wish I could do that on Emperor... Great job! :goodjob:

Lord_Iggy
Apr 08, 2006, 11:03 PM
Yes, I meant Stocktracker. :p

Nice work!

FascistRepublic
Apr 09, 2006, 09:16 AM
Congradz man, what's next for you?

azzaman333
Apr 09, 2006, 09:21 AM
[shameless self promotion]If you liked stocktrackers story, see Hiawatha, Emperor of the Iroquois (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=164600). Its just getting good. :D[/shameless self promotion]

Congratualtions stocktracker. I can only hope my Emperor game goes as well.

Mirc
Apr 09, 2006, 11:23 AM
Congratulations!!!

conquer_dude
Apr 09, 2006, 11:51 AM
Congradz man, what's next for you?
I believe he said earlier on that he was going to play a game himself, without posting it. Then he will build up to (demigod?)

Very good!:D I wish I was that good. :rolleyes:

Takeo
Apr 09, 2006, 05:18 PM
Good game!!:goodjob: Looking forward to next one, whenever you are ready.:)

Teutonic Knight
Mar 08, 2008, 03:55 PM
WHEN U GONNA PLAY ME IN HOTSEAT AGAIN (fyi i am his neighbor i used to be g.i.jo08):confused: :cowboy: :trouble:

Teutonic Knight
Mar 08, 2008, 03:57 PM
MAYBE IN JUNE OR SO BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE HAve:p :dubious:

Teutonic Knight
Mar 09, 2008, 01:50 PM
This world looks like a carnival!

sounds like someone been smoking and drinking FEW
things:smoke: :beer: :cowboy: