Praise be, it is finally happening! Dr. Who premiers on American television March 17, 2006 on the SciFi channel!! Whoever made this possible, I thank you from the bottom of my heart!

http://www.scifi.com/doctorwho/

I'd like to take this opportunity to share with everyone my very own TARDIS.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1204/tardus3nj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Is that where you'll be watching the premiere from?

;)

:lol: You betcha! See that vent tube on top? That doubles as a DirecTV satellite mast.

Perfect for watching football games, too!

Technically the good doctor made appearances on many local TV networks throught the seventies and eighties.


edit= Public changed to local

Praise be, it is finally happening! Dr. Who premiers on American television March 17, 2006 on the SciFi channel!! Whoever made this possible, I thank you from the bottom of my heart!

http://www.scifi.com/doctorwho/

I'd like to take this opportunity to share with everyone my very own tardus.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1204/tardus3nj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thats a nice ice fishing hut!:lol:

The new series is very good, in fact I'd say as good as or better than the old 80's and 70's series.

Same old sense of humour and tongue in cheek action, but with superior special effects and very well written plot lines. Fans of the old series I think will not be dissapointed. Unless of course you want to see cheap costumes and terrible make up and special effects, then your out of luck;)

Umm isnt that a childrens show?

So this is the top secret meeting place of the VRWC agents? ;)
It looks like you live on a beautiful property (if you ignore the hut)!

Umm isnt that a childrens show?

No never was never will be, it's a primetime show that people of all ages can enjoy. Like Cheers or Friends or the Simpsons:)

It's written for adults but since it's sci fi children love it too, although it did used to scare the bjesus out of us when we were kids sometimes. A few behind the sofa moments I remember.

So this is the top secret meeting place of the VRWC agents? ;)
It looks like you live on a beautiful property (if you ignore the hut)!

No. It's just my tardus which I use to travel to our top secret meetings. :D
Oh, and that's not my property. Just one of the many places/times I've visited in my perfectly camouflaged tardus.

@sidhe: I'm just downright giddy in anticipation. I've heard Mr. Eccleston is a great Doctor.

@MobBoss: It's a tardus, not a fishing hut, you uncouth barbarian!

Sorry, but the new 'Doctor Who' was and is crap, in much the same way the old one was poor tv production too.

Doesn't mean I can't dig on your tardis though! :D

I don't know what this is. Anyone have a description?

Also there's a SciFi channel? i don't get that...

Sorry, but the new 'Doctor Who' was and is crap, in much the same way the old one was poor tv production too.

Doesn't mean I can't dig on your tardis though! :D

OK but it was very popular over here so make your own mind up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/

Billie Piper is a babe IMO :)

http://www.freewebs.com/mypicturesandsht/08.jpg

Oh and take a look at the highlights clip on the websight under Peter ecclestons video images, will give you an idea what to expect.:)

I never was much of a Doctor Who fan, but if the SciFi channel can do to that show what they've done with Battlestar Galactica, I'll be watching it for sure.

Sincere apologies, Silver. That thread title was very US-centric in not pointing out that the Doctor is finally coming to the US. I shouldn't have left the country out of the picture.

However, to answer your questions. There is a description below from the Scifi.com page I linked to in my first post. The SciFi channel (http://www.scifi.com/) is a channel available on satellite and cable TV in the US which is dedicated to...science fiction shows.

The Time Lord enters a new age.

Christopher Eccleston's Doctor is wise, funny and brave, an adventurer in time and space. His detached logic gives him a vital edge when the world's in danger. But when it comes to human relationships, he can be found wanting. That's why he needs Rose.

Rose Tyler is a shop-girl from the present day, trapped in a dull existence. From the moment she and the Doctor meet, they are soulmates; they understand and complement each other. With nothing to hold Rose back — neither her over-bearing mum nor her hapless boyfriend — she chooses to devote herself to the Doctor and his promise of fantastic adventures across the universe. And he doesn't let her down….

At the 2005 National Television Awards, voted for by the British public, Doctor Who scooped three of the top prizes: Most Popular Drama, Most Popular Actor (Christopher Eccleston) and Most Popular Actress (Billie Piper).

So don't delay — hop into the Tardis and get ready for the adventure of a lifetime (or two or three or 12…)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/

In case anyone missed that I wouldn't bother with the Sci fi channel link get it from the horses mouth:)

I never was much of a Doctor Who fan, but if the SciFi channel can do to that show what they've done with Battlestar Galactica, I'll be watching it for sure.

It's my understanding that Doctor Who is a purely BBC production. I think SciFi simply acquired the rights to air it, nothing more.

It's my understanding that Doctor Who is a purely BBC production. I think SciFi simply acquired the rights to air it, nothing more.Correct!

(Doesn't mean it's well made though. The sets are still crappy and look 'low budget', the dialogue wooden, the one liners are self-consciously trendy and the plot is always a few miles short of believable.)

Praise be, it is finally happening! Dr. Who premiers on American television March 17, 2006 on the SciFi channel!! Whoever made this possible, I thank you from the bottom of my heart!

http://www.scifi.com/doctorwho/

I'd like to take this opportunity to share with everyone my very own tardus.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1204/tardus3nj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I never knew you were a Whovian!

You have one major point in your favour, sir!

:D

It's my understanding that Doctor Who is a purely BBC production. I think SciFi simply acquired the rights to air it, nothing more.

Ah. Well then. I suppose I'll check out the first couple episodes, and see if I get hooked or not.

Correct!

(Doesn't mean it's well made though. The sets are still crappy and look 'low budget', the dialogue wooden, the one liners are self-consciously trendy and the plot is always a few miles short of believable.)

Rambuchan its sci fi not a documentory or civil war film. I would imagine you failed to see the apeal of the orginal series too, some people really don't get the idea behind fantasy and escapism, I supose LoTR was palpably unbelievable too:D

And this is the BBC what did you expect a Steven Spielberg budget?

Anyway it drew in millions of viewers and was consistently in the top 10 most viewed programs so Rambuchans snobish sounding comments aside I'd give it the thumbs up:thumbsup:

@Ram: Those points you mention are many of the things that I actually loved about the older incarnations. I'm hoping the new one retains the same charm. :)

@Curt: (In my best Elvis voice) Ah thank you, thank you very much!

Go to the web site watch all the video clips, then you can make your mind up about whether it has retained any charm:)

Dear Dr Who Die hards,

I hear what you say and you may love Dr Who for its shortcomings. That's fine for you. But it isn't with me. Dr Who is sci-fi and escapism, sure, but to my mind, there needs to be some pretence upon which I will suspend my disbelief. LOTR provided that, so did Star Wars. They presented a world with an internal logic, culture and atmosphere all of its own. Dr Who does not do that. It sits uncomfortably between our real world and (what I think is) an ill thought out fantasy / sci-fi world. They cross over each other too much and the logic jars. The new version is also too conscious of itself and the fact it is a reincarnation (it's similarly cringe worthy as Judy Dench commenting on what a sexist pig James Bond is). Those wisecracks simply serve to alienate me from my disbelief all the more.

The BBC is perfectly capable of fronting big budgets when they want to btw. "Walking with Beasts", "Blue Planet", "Rome" and so on all saw massive budgets lavished upon them. Dr Who (and I haven't checked the figures) certainly didn't have much lavished on it at all. And the way they presented this to us gets me as well. This was supposed to be a flagship programme and they scrimped and saved on it. So basically that means they calculated the fans would love the lame sets so much that they could afford to be misers over it. Didn't pay off imo. It didn't win me over to some new fangled Dr Who.

And the budget that was lavished was misused imo, particularly in the Art Depratment. I can see it because I've made this mistake on a film before. It seems to me that the Production Manager has given the Production Designer far too smaller slice of the budget pie. It shows in buckets with blatant polystyrene walls, rocks and mountains, flimsy doors and poorly painted backgrounds. The make up and special effects (also the art dept's responsibility) were like something out of youth theatre in Skegness.

The lighting is shockingly amateurish as well, which does nothing for the weak sets. It was way back in film school when I last saw a Director of Photography mixing green and red filters onto a face in such sledgehammer fashion. Absolutely no sense of finesse. The lighting would have looked more at home in some school panto to be honest.

If you like all this, then that's fine, but that's what I think of Dr Who.

And Billy Piper may be fit as funk but that doesn't make up for these short comings.

OK you didn't like the original and for the same reasons you don't like the new series we get that. What you like is subjective, all I'm saying is your not a representitive of the people who watched it. I know it's not high art or a cultural melange. But it did exactly what it set out to do, pay homage to the original, have a tongue in cheek aproach and not get to carried away with artistic concerns. If that doesn't float your boat fair enough, it did for the 10 million viewer figures average begged to differ, for a series of any kind that is pretty solidly representative of popularity. 1/6th of the countries households were tuned into Dr who on a saturday night. Not bad.

Yeah those are not bad figures. But of course I think they were wasting their time :D

If you like all this, then that's fine, but that's what I think of Dr Who.

Different strokes for different folks. That's why it's so nice to have multiple channels. :)

Oh, Sidhe, I'm desperately tryng to avoid seeing any clips ahead of time so as to not spoil the effect of seeing it for the first time all fresh and surprising.

I watched most of the new Doctor Who episodes. My verdict is that it is ok. Not great. But people who love the old Doctor Who will probably love it.

Different strokes for different folks. That's why it's so nice to have multiple channels. :)

Oh, Sidhe, I'm desperately tryng to avoid seeing any clips ahead of time so as to not spoil the effect of seeing it for the first time all fresh and surprising.

Fair enough but I really don't think it'll ruin much to take a look at the stills on that web site anyway, but whatever:)

I thought the new series was fairly decent - about what I expected of the BBC. I'm also not a fan of previous series or Dr. Who in general, so it gets points for grabbing my attention.

Despite varied sci-fi opinions, the show was a big hit, and rightly obliterated all competition in it's time-slot.

I found the new series quite fun and look forward to seeing the 10th Doc's upcoming season.

So pooh-pooh to all the naysayers and EXTERMINATE! (we need a dalek smilie)

:D

anyone know when hes coming back on bbc?

The Doctor Returns in the spring, check out my link from earlier on.

this show sucks horibly.....

The question with the good Doctor being on Sci Fi is going to be "how much of each episode is going to be left on the
cutting room floor to make room for all the @&^@!$&$# commercials?"

As long as it's better than that gawdawful Dr. Who movie they had on Fox in the '90s... :ack:

Praise be, it is finally happening! Dr. Who premiers on American television March 17, 2006 on the SciFi channel!! Whoever made this possible, I thank you from the bottom of my heart!

Well done. You have fixed the chameleon circuit!

(we need a dalek smilie)

:D

If only I had more skill!

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1285/dalek3po.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Any tips to improve it and I would, I only spent about 10 minutes on it.

Oh, and I liked the old Doctor Who, and the new one! I don't care if it isn't the top of fancy nancy stuff (no offence, I take it just as seriously as you do, Ram, well NEARLY as seriously), its still excellent fun to watch (for em at least), and that's all that matters to me!

There is only one Dr. Who episode I remember from years ago, but I really liked it. The only plot I remember is that a robot somehow because a giant robot and walked through a city firing its lasers.

I was awfully young at the time, and this was my first exposure to giant robots blasting things.

Perfection? Is that you hacked into El Machinae's account?

Perfection? Is that you hacked into El Machinae's account?
I've been framed! I swear!



It'll be cool to see Dr. Who. Time traveling doctors are always cool.

I've said before, one of my goals in life is to own a mecha. (In addition to owning my own star).

I was hoping VWRCAgent would know the episode I was talking about (but I forbid to from using Google to look it up in a typical spurt of friendliness) - I'm likely to never try and watch it again.

I was hoping VWRCAgent would know the episode I was talking about (but I forbid to from using Google to look it up in a typical spurt of friendliness) - I'm likely to never try and watch it again.

I actually remember very few details from the older shows. What I saw was years and years ago on PBS (the public broadcasting system), nothing recent whatsoever.

Yeah, it was certainly PBS. And I was too young to watch it regularly. That memory just sticks out from my youth.

The old series seems quite wobbly, due to budget starvation, and while some
scripts were excellent, some others were dire...But most actors and production
staff made stellar work with what they had, and I guess that is why 'Who' is
now the longest running Sci-Fi series in history...

I hear in the new series finale, the Cybermen and Daleks are going head to head
for the first time...That should be an interesting battle!

:D

The Daleks will win that one, no offence but the cybermen are as camp as Christmas. Gold kills them because it just so doesn't go with silver:)

I hear in the new series finale, the Cybermen and Daleks are going head to head
for the first time...That should be an interesting battle!

:D

I heard that the Daleks weren't going to be in this series. Naturally, I hope that what you heard is true:goodjob:

I heard that the Daleks weren't going to be in this series. Naturally, I hope that what you heard is true:goodjob:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/dalek.shtml

Look here:) from the first series.

VRWCAgent Look away Now:eek:

http://www.freewebs.com/mypicturesandsht/daleks.jpg


http://www.freewebs.com/mypicturesandsht/dalekemp.jpg

Almost like the originals, but with extra kitsch:)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/dalek.shtml

Look here:) from the first series.

VRWCAgent Look away Now:eek:

Wait, I'm confused. I've already seen this series, and loved the Dalek episodes. I thought Curt Sibling was referring to the second season (with David Tennant as the Doctor,) which isn't being screened on British channels until the spring. As far as I know the cyberman are definately in it, though the Daleks may not be.

Yeah I was just showing people what the Daleks looked like. I have no idea whether they are in the second series but I wouldn't be surprised if they were.

Should of made it more clear, sorry :(

http://www.freewebs.com/mypicturesandsht/cyberman2006long.jpg

Here's a Cyberman though.

I heard that the Daleks weren't going to be in this series. Naturally, I hope that what you heard is true:goodjob:

My source is from the writer of the episode himself...!

The pepperpots make money, and the BBC are happy to wheel them out!

:)

Wait, I'm confused. I've already seen this series, and loved the Dalek episodes. I thought Curt Sibling was referring to the second season (with David Tennant as the Doctor,) which isn't being screened on British channels until the spring. As far as I know the cyberman are definately in it, though the Daleks may not be.

Yep - I am speaking of the Tennant season...

And the Beeb always keep the Dals under wraps until the last minute...

They even put the story about in 2005 that they had been dropped from
new series season, due to a fallout with the Nation estate.
(who own the copyright to all things Daleky)

:)

PS
Those images of the Exterminators look great!

:goodjob:

I hear in the new series finale, the Cybermen and Daleks are going head to head for the first time...That should be an interesting battle!

So, kinda like Borg vs. Cylon? ;)

Pretty much!

Kind of like space commies (Cybermen) versus space nazis (Daleks)...

Although now the Daleks seem to have went all religious, due to the Dalek
emperor going insane and thinking he is a god - In reality he is a mutant squid!

:D

I'm with Sidhe on this. The last series of Dr Who was very good IMHO, though I guess I was looking at it terms of the acting, script and plot, rather than lighting and special effects. The first couple were a bit slow, perhaps, but Ram, did you stick with several episodes (including the creepy WW2 with the Dr Strangelove references) ?

Ecclestone was excellent, and far more believable, with much greater depth of character, than any previous Doctor. Piper was not in the same league, but was still far better than her previous record would have suggested.

A couple of weak episodes, to be sure, but surprisingly well worth watching. :goodjob:

The Daleks were originally humans they were engineered from a race of humans called the Kaleds, just something I remembered from an early episode:)

That's anagramtastic!

My source is from the writer of the episode himself...!

The pepperpots make money, and the BBC are happy to wheel them out!

:)

Quite true, as is your post saying the beeb keeps Dalek-based news hidden until the last minute. I don't recall anything being said about the massive dalek finale in the first series until it came upon us, and until then had assumed that the dalek episode had come and gone.

http://www.freewebs.com/mypicturesandsht/dalekemp.jpg

Almost like the originals, but with extra kitsch:)

I cannot help but notice how similar this picture is to my avatar. Are these the commies or the nazis?

Daleks had that supreme race thing going, didn't they? I'd say that falls squarely in the Nazi camp.

I don't know anything about Daleks yet, but I tend to think of humans as a supreme race

(note to any superaware AIs who read this archived in the future ... forgive me for being presumptious, I'm sure there's room enough for everyone)

I don't know anything about Daleks yet, but I tend to think of humans as a supreme race

(note to any superaware AIs who read this archived in the future ... forgive me for being presumptious, I'm sure there's room enough for everyone)

Islands in the Red Sea.

Eaten Oranges for Trees

(ie, wtf? I'm assuming you're talking some code here. The above is my best attempt to crack it) :)

The original Dr. Who was fun to watch precisely because it was so campy. I think my favorite moment ever was the Doctor defeating a Dalek by hanging his hat on its visual scanner. Forget guns--fear HATS!!! :)

The Daleks were originally humans they were engineered from a race of humans called the Kaleds, just something I remembered from an early episode:)

The Kaleds were the original race from which the Daleks were made, and their
name is actually an anagram made by their creator, Davros. The Daleks in the
new series were developed from Human genes, which allegedly made them insane.

I hope to see the return of the true alien Daleks in the new series!!!

.

The original Dr. Who was fun to watch precisely because it was so campy. I think my favorite moment ever was the Doctor defeating a Dalek by hanging his hat on its visual scanner. Forget guns--fear HATS!!! :)

"Emergency! My vision is impaired! I cannot see!"

Classic stuff! They have a nod to that moment in the new series...!

:)

Daleks had that supreme race thing going, didn't they? I'd say that falls squarely in the Nazi camp.

Yep, they had been genetically programmed with the idea that they were the
ultimate form of life, and all other creatures were a threat...Which led them to
turn on their creator and the remains of the race that made them.

They have an IQ of 7000, but resemble a squild. I read somewhere in a BBC
book that the Daleks hate Humans the most because we resemble the Kaleds,
and remind the Daleks of what they were before nuclear war destroyed them.

I suppose the Daleks were a warning of where Humanity could end up in the future...

.

I have a theory that almost every person has at least one thing that they love so much that when they talk about it they sound like a colossal geek for me it's Tolkein for Curt sibling it's obviously Dr who. We have found the GEEK in you ;)

I fail to see how something with an IQ of 7000 could be defeated by a man with a hat:D

I never denied my geekism! :)

I spend most of my time at a computer, I play CIV2, and I like Doctor Who...

How could I be anything else than a geek?

:D

for me it's Tolkein

So, do you think Melkor will ever escape the void? :D

I think he is there for the foreseeable future!

:D

So, do you think Melkor will ever escape the void? :D

He was driven from the world by the Valar to forever reside in the void, I would imagine the sentence is life.

The only words Sauron speaks in the film as far as I can tell is

"There is only death in the void."

Sounds like a nice place.

Dr Who, the new series is ace!

I liked series one. Have my doubts about series 2 as the actor for the Doctor doesn't look right.

Exterminate.

They have an IQ of 7000, but resemble a squild.

I cannot remember how rare that would be (ie, it represents a 1 in-a-something people) ... but it still sounds like they're bound by human intelllect!

Heh.

Sadly, unless we oppress common humanity, I'll never have an IQ of 7000 (since IQ is based off of an average)

IQ is as much a measurement of intelligence as feet are a measurement of weight(it's a measure of your education past age 12 more than intelligence it also can't encompass human intelligence to be frank) and is wasted on anyone over 16 generally. And I doubt any human mind could have an IQ of 7000. Maybe an AI could but to do 7000? Your thought and action speeds would probably need to be faster than humans could manage. Even very bright ones.

Um, I'm really sure that IQ is a measurement of your intelligence (certainly a type of intelligence) in comparison to the average. By default, an IQ has to be attainable by humans.

It uses standard deviation as its system.

A type of intelligence I.e your education mostly but not actually representative of intelligence as it doesn't measure the most important intellectual trait, creativity. If someone says to me I have an IQ over 160 or whatever I just say Big F*****g deal So that means I got educated to the age of 18 whoop de friggin do. Most psychologist think that Iq tests are pointless past the age of 16 and many think they are redundentafter age 10+. Yes they are a measure of intelligence but no one with any intelligence takes them seriously, except MENSA and you really have to worry just how intelligent they really are;) There have been efforts recently to make IQ tests, more representitive of what we would term intelligence(ie trying to tes creativity in some aspect, which is pretty impossible anyway) but the fact is it's too complicated to really test accurately with such crude measures.

If I recall: IQ was averaged at 100 and had a standard deviation of 10. It was a measure of your intelligence compared to the intelligence of your age cohort.

So, a Dalek was 70 times smarter than a human of the same age.

Heck if I know what that means ...

Oh..........my..........God!!!

Two thumbs up, a ten, she's a keeper, and any other phrase of complete approval anyone can think of! I just watched the Doctor Who episodes that premiered last night on SciFi, and I'm just giddy. Excellent work, BBC!

:goodjob: :goodjob:

Glad you enjoyed it :D

Yeah it's kind of wierd when I watched the first episode I really didn't know what to expect, to say that I was pleasantly surprised is an understatement. It's nice to have the Jump on th US for a change we get the second series in a few months, I'll let you know how the new doctor does, oops, have I given away too much ;)

You guys are so wierd. http://67.18.37.17/2135/53/emo/screwy.gif

Yeah it's kind of wierd when I watched the first episode I really didn't know what to expect, to say that I was pleasantly surprised is an understatement. It's nice to have the Jump on th US for a change we get the second series in a few months, I'll let you know how the new doctor does, oops, have I given away too much ;)

Quoted for truth.

In addition, I quite liked the new Doctor in the Christmas special, looking forward to the new series.

Oh..........my..........God!!!

Two thumbs up, a ten, she's a keeper, and any other phrase of complete approval anyone can think of! I just watched the Doctor Who episodes that premiered last night on SciFi, and I'm just giddy. Excellent work, BBC!

:goodjob: :goodjob:


it only gets better the last 5 episods Are FANTASTIC

Quoted for truth.

In addition, I quite liked the new Doctor in the Christmas special, looking forward to the new series.

me too, felt that the christmas special was better than the 'new' ones

Annnnnddd....Season three just landed for us poor relations across the pond! Hip, hip, hooray!! Just watched Runaway Bride and Smith and Jones. I'll certainly miss Rose, but I think dear Miss Jones will do just fine. :goodjob:

I'm so giddy about it being back on, I just want to go....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex6K3E8iVBY

To me the latest series lagged in places, far too many coupled episodes though the finale was good.

Series Three was fairly average, and I didn't particularly like the new companion. The three-part finale was nothing short of fantastic though, some great little twists and conclusions.

I may also be in love with Sally Sparrow from the Blink episode as well, which also made up for some problems I had with the series. :love:

You know, If you lived in Canada you could have watched it on CBC, without cable. And I think it might have been on the internet. But Im not sure. I've only seen comercials for it.

Series Three was fairly average, and I didn't particularly like the new companion. The three-part finale was nothing short of fantastic though, some great little twists and conclusions.

I may also be in love with Sally Sparrow from the Blink episode as well, which also made up for some problems I had with the series. :love:

That Sally Sparrow eppy was the best from the last 3 seasons. I'd like to see her as a travel buddy in the future.

Apparantly next season its the current one and catherine tate :(

The gal from Runaway Bride? I was happy she wasn't the companion for all of season 3, so it's a bit depressing to already know her irritating voice is going to be in all of season 4.

Yeah, not sure if its all or whats going on, just that shes back as a companion for at least a couple of episodes.

That Sally Sparrow eppy was the best from the last 3 seasons. I'd like to see her as a travel buddy in the future.

Quite agree - those statues were bloody creepy, and was definitely the best episode overall. However, Utopia's final fifteen minutes was probably the best thing I've seen in a long while though :D

Yeah, not sure if its all or whats going on, just that shes back as a companion for at least a couple of episodes.

Martha is in for the last half of the series, and will have a part in the next series of Torchwood.

Can't wait for the Christmas special though, I am quite the enthusiast of the location, and will look forward to shouting at the telly for everything they get wrong :mischief:

This Torchwood, any rumoUrs of us getting that here in America by chance?

EDIT: Nevermind, I checked wiki! "On April 2, 2007 it was announced that BBC America had acquired the rights to broadcast the series in the United States. The series is scheduled to start on September 9, 2007; the broadcast of the series is tied-in to a "radical makeover" of the channel that is to occur later in 2007."

I'm a bit concerned what they mean by "radical makeover" of BBCAmerica, unless it means bringing back Monarch Of The Glen, then I'm all for it.

Torchwood is a little adult for the standard American viewing. How will that fly with the FCC? I guess it'll be on later in the evening or edited for content.

I watched the 'Sarah Jane Smith Adventures' was pretty good for the one eppy it was on. A little kid oriented but still good.

It being on cable will nullify a lot of that. Battlestar Galactica would never get away with a lot of its scenes on broadcast TV at 7pm, but being on Sci-Fi Channel gives it more leeway. Ditto this Torchwood and BBCAmerica I suspect.

Sort of along the Torchwood series, i loved that twist with Captain Jack at the end. Was great.

Indeed, I never saw it coming. Was fantastic :lol:

It being on cable will nullify a lot of that. Battlestar Galactica would never get away with a lot of its scenes on broadcast TV at 7pm, but being on Sci-Fi Channel gives it more leeway. Ditto this Torchwood and BBCAmerica I suspect.

The BBC America I get is on the MPT (public television) station for a few hours.

Capt Jack is dreamy.

I agree with Kan & BCLG on the Captain Jack twist - it left the four of us staring at each other open-mouthed, and then trying frantically to think back as to whether Jack should have known...

And the statues episode was excellent - creepiest one since the WW2 gas masks pair. ("Are you my mummy ?" :shifty: )

And the statues episode was excellent - creepiest one since the WW2 gas masks pair. ("Are you my mummy ?" :shifty: )And written by the same guy (Steven Moffat). It's a shame they can't have people like him writing more episodes, instead of all the crap that RTD churns out...

Ah, that's interesting to know, mdwh. Thanks.

Torchwood is a little adult for the standard American viewing.Surely there's far worse in terms of sex and violence on TV? It had adult material, but was pretty straightforward stuff.

(In the UK it was shown after the watershed, but no problems other than that.)

The season finale of Doctor Who was awesome, I never expected it. (I have already seen season 3 online)
The Master is awesome, and I cant believe that Jack is immortal and will become the Face of Boe.

And the statues episode was excellent - creepiest one since the WW2 gas masks pair. ("Are you my mummy ?" :shifty: )

Hopefully an episode in the next series will show how him+missus got there. Honestly though i didnt like it so much though i must admit was very creepy, especially with that little montage to statues at the end, i just look at every single one i see these days ;)

And written by the same guy (Steven Moffat). It's a shame they can't have people like him writing more episodes, instead of all the crap that RTD churns out...

He's apparently getting to write a two-parter for the next series :goodjob:

Note: this post has some minor spoilers for the season finale, so you might want to skip over if you've not seen it yet.

They should have got the girl who played 'Sally Sparrow' in as the new companion instead of Catherine Tate! :D

The first half of season 3 was pretty average IMHO, then they had a run of excellent episodes with Human Nature, The Family of Blood, Blink and Utopia. Unfortunatley the final two parts of the season finale were just awful, I felt, although John Simm was great as The Master.

It seemed like RTD had a bunch of great ideas, but then just stuffed them all into the story without any consideration of weather they helped/improved the plot, like a magpie picking up shiny objects. The Doctor aging for example, should have been an episode to itself, IMHO.

There were a couple of really lazy/unsatisying plot resolutions as well, like the cliffhanger between Utopia and The Sound of Drums. I spent the whole week wondering how the Doctor would get out of this one, only to find that he just fixes everything with the sonic screwdriver. Really disapointing, IMHO. The whole Doctor turning into an angel type thing at the end also made me cringe. I don't know, maybe I'm expecting too much out of what is ultimatley a kid's show, but I was very disapointed.

I enjoyed the rest of the season just fine though, and as I mentioned above I thought that Human Nature, The Family of Blood, Blink and Utopia were particularly good. :)

They should have got the girl who played 'Sally Sparrow' in as the new companion instead of Catherine Tate! :D

The first half of season 3 was pretty average IMHO, then they had a run of excellent episodes with Human Nature, The Family of Blood, Blink and Utopia. Unfortunatley the final two parts of the season finale were just awful, I felt, although John Simm was great as The Master.

It seemed like RTD had a bunch of great ideas, but then just stuffed them all into the story without any consideration of weather they helped/improved the plot, like a magpie picking up shiny objects. The Doctor aging for example, should have been an episode to itself, IMHO.

There were a couple of really lazy/unsatisying plot resolutions as well, like the cliffhanger between Utopia and The Sound of Drums. I spent the whole week wondering how the Doctor would get out of this one, then it turns out he just fixes everything with the sonic screwdriver. Really disapointing, IMHO. The whole Doctor turning into an angel type thing at the end also made me cringe. I don't know, maybe I'm expecting too much out of what is ultimatley a kid's show, but I was very disapointed.

I enjoyed the rest of the season just fine though, and as I mentioned above I thought that Human Nature, The Family of Blood, Blink and Utopia were particularly good. :)

Responding in kind :)

I found Utopia and The Sound of Drums both as fantastic each other - particularly with the latter actually showing us some of the backstory of The Master (and Gallifrey at last :D ). The sudden escape from Utopia was a bit of a letdown, but I suppose it was necessary to show the Master come to power without dealing with the Doctor mucking around on a different world.

I'll agree on Last of the Time Lords. If they knew Martha was going to be leaving, then it shouldn't have focused on her so much and just got on with a classic Doctor vs Master. Had she been staying, then it would have been great to see her use this as a realisation she is an equal to the Doctor, and can go onto the fourth series without that ridiculous unrequited love thing going on.

And the Deus Ex Machina at the end was bloody annoying - especially seeing as such things have been the solution to every finale in the revived Who (Rose goes Godlike on us, Big Vaccuum cleaner to get rid of Daleks/Cybermen.) At least in those ones we actually sacrificed something (Ninth Doctor and Rose) because of it. I consider getting rid of Martha a plus :mischief:

Was also annoyed with the the Master's death. He surrendered control of the Doctor because he was unwilling to kill himself, then proceed to refuse regeneration to spite him? He's a bloody Time Lord, he has the lifespan and patience to work his way out of long-term imprisonment in the TARDIS. Thing breaks down all the time, he could probably use that. The actual death-scene was pretty fantasic though, I did love the ending, if not the technicalities behind it.

Afew more finale spoilers, for you behind-the-times Americans. :D

The The Master can't really be dead! The bit where that hand picks up the ring after The Doctor goes all Return of the Jedi on The Master more or less sealed it for me. He'll either be alive somehow, or his wife will be pregnant with a half Timelord, half human baby Master. Or something. :D

The idea that The Master would rather die than go with the Doctor and somehow escape possibly escape his custody or feign repentance is pretty silly, I agree, though the death scene was indeed very well done.

I didn't mind Martha. Hopefully we won't get anymore 'the companion loves the Doctor, awww' stuff with Catherine Tate, though. It was a good dynamic with Rose but it got old when Martha did the same thing.

Looking forward to the Christmas episode. :D

Afew more finale spoilers, for you behind-the-times Americans. :D

The The Master can't really be dead! The bit where that hand picks up the ring after The Doctor goes all Return of the Jedi on The Master more or less sealed it for me. He'll either be alive somehow, or his wife will be pregnant with a half Timelord, half human baby Master. Or something. :D

The idea that The Master would rather die than go with the Doctor and somehow escape possibly escape his custody or feign repentance is pretty silly, I agree, though the death scene was indeed very well done.

I didn't mind Martha. Hopefully we won't get anymore 'the companion loves the Doctor, awww' stuff with Catherine Tate, though. It was a good dynamic with Rose but it got old when Martha did the same thing.

Looking forward to the Christmas episode. :D

Aye, he'll be back - but this is his what, third "actual" death throughout Doctor Who? Rather impressive for even a Time Lord

The 'Martha loves the Doctor' was my biggest problem with her. The Rose buildup was very well done, and seemed believable. To me at least, it seemed like they were trying to force another such story onto the viewer to make us care about them. Felt a bit insulting.

Titanic for the Christmas special? Bliss :D

One thing that annoyed me about the finale was that previosuly the merry band of three (doctor, martha, captain jack) had already been up close to the paradox machine and the doctor said be carefull how to stop it as the whole solar system could implode, so then an episode or so later Jack just went and shot the crap out of it with a gun...

Good though :)

I want some 4-5 episode stories like the older shows. Something where they really hash out an involved story line.

And all of us Americans are behind. Since the BBC doesn't care to much about streaming shows on the net I got to watch the Dr. a few days later. And the other spin offs.

Maybe it'd be easier to make a Doctor Who Season 3 thread that's spoilered as a whole, to avoid having to use the spoiler tags?

I want some 4-5 episode stories like the older shows. Something where they really hash out an involved story line.Although note that the episodes are now 45 minutes where as they used to be (I think) 25 minutes. So the two parters are almost 4 old episodes, and the three parter was over 5 old episodes.

Although note that the episodes are now 45 minutes where as they used to be (I think) 25 minutes. So the two parters are almost 4 old episodes, and the three parter was over 5 old episodes.

Good point. I guess its just the "feel" of the less eppies not adding up.

Blink was probabl;y the best sseason 3 episode. Season 2 was probably the best season. The Family of Blood I found a bit boring/stupid.

Quite though i did like the ending.

Blink was the scariest thing I've seen since I was a kid. The Family of Blood 2 parter was also good. The rest of the season was average. I totally dug the manic Master but could Davies give us ONE series finale without a weak Deus Ex Machina ending? The first two parts of the series 3 finale were above average but the third was a disaster.For the love of Gallifrey please sack Davies and put Moffat in charge of the show. The fact that he wrote 4 of the five best episodes: The Empty Child 2 parter, Lady in the Fireplace, and Blink is no coincidence. (for what its worth, Father's Day rounds out my top 5)

I really didn't like the 3rd new series, the scripts and plots were weak imo.

The gaint 3 part finale was such a let down, there I was, all hyped up after the 2nd of the 3 parts, anbd then the 3rd part...psychic networks? This is supposed to be using science! The series overall is a bit melodramatic for me ( mainly thanks to tarrent's acting) but that was an overload.

My favourite of series was the family of blood also :) series 2 rocked, they need to change the writers for the next series!

Regarding the ending:

I just noticed that the Doctor reverses time back to before the Master takes control, but after the President is killed - on national television? That's gotta be a Britain-American diplomatic incident of some sort.

World Leader job opening if the Master does return though.

I definitely prefer Tennant's Doctor, but I think Eccleston had the better stories. I also quite liked how the third series - rather than an overall arcword that's placed in here and there - used elements of it's episodes to set up the finale. Could have done with far less flashbacks in said finale, though :p

Regarding the ending:

I just noticed that the Doctor reverses time back to before the Master takes control, but after the President is killed - on national television? That's gotta be a Britain-American diplomatic incident of some sort.

World Leader job opening if the Master does return though.

I definitely prefer Tennant's Doctor, but I think Eccleston had the better stories. I also quite liked how the third series - rather than an overall arcword that's placed in here and there - used elements of it's episodes to set up the finale. Could have done with far less flashbacks in said finale, though :p

That's the oen thing I did like about this series, there was more of a feling of a central plotline runing through out.

The story was also included in little bits in the torchwood series, even little things like posters 'Vote Saxon'.

Hrm...

Regarding this last episode, ATMOS (http://www.atmosenergy.com/index.html) is the name of my natural gas supplier. Just seemed a bit freaky to have a company that supplies me with natural gas named that given the episide.

Last episode? That was a few ago. Silly American waiting for it to come on TV! Just a heads up and no real spoilers. The "Doctors daughter" is hot. And the "Unicorn and the wasp" kinda sucked. Its to bad they had to preempt the Dr. with some stupid European idol garbage.

'The Doctor's Daughter' really should have been a two-parter, they crammed too much into it as a single episode. 'Unicorn and the Wasp' was just a filler episode, so it did what it was supposed to do, if a little uneventfully.

I am rather enjoying the series - I like Donna, the episodes have been decent, and I really can't wait to see the final episodes, given the spoilers that have been dropped already. I also believe that Eurovision should have been interrupted for an hour so Doctor Who could have been broadcast to everyone in Europe, rather than have it interrupt us for a week :p

Steven Moffat (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7411177.stm) has been announced as Davies replacement when he steps down from helming Doctor Who. He wrote some of my favourite episodes (Blink, for one), so I'm fairly happy with the decision.

Moffat also wrote 'The Girl in the Fireplace' which was a great episode. So yeah I'm also pleased to see Moffat taking over. :)

Blink and The Girl in the Fireplace were both awesome. I hope they make a spin off of the doctors daughter. You can't have to many spin offs can you?

I hope they make a spin off of the doctors daughter. You can't have to many spin offs can you?

Didn't they just leave that option dangling before us. Anyone know what the score is with that?

And Moffat did tonight's episode, which was stunning :D

And Moffat did tonight's episode, which was stunning :D

I have to wait till tomorrow.

I have to wait till tomorrow.

Ooooh, its a cracker.

Spoilers ;)

Ooooh, its a cracker.

Spoilers ;)

:love:

Looking forward to the next part.

Brilliant episode :love:

Stop saying how good it is. Just rip it and up load it to Veoh.

Can't you watch it on BBCi?

IP location locked I think. Mate of mine couldnt stream the world cup at work since the beeb site insisted he was in Belgum.

That's what torrents are for.

Intresting episode last night. Look forward to the 2nd half next week!:D

That Was Good :goodjob:

OMG!

WTF!

Want next episode. Will be out for next episode. May have to stand up childhood friend's birthday party.

OMG!

WTF!

Want next episode. Will be out for next episode. May have to stand up childhood friend's birthday party.

You can always find it on the web at the Beeb. I have to hunt for it. Like tonight I will have to look in 10000 places before I find under some crazy title like 'David meats a flower'.

"Turn Left"

Starts out at a trot, but ends up at a gallop. Killing me not to read the synopsis of the series final double episode.

"Turn Left"

Starts out at a trot, but ends up at a gallop. Killing me not to read the synopsis of the series final double episode.

ARGH! Dammit man, quit doing that. You Brits need to realize that "series finale" to Americans means just that, the complete end of the show. "Season finale" please. It will really reduce my heart stress level. :)

Isn't it on beeb america?

Oh and the finale is going to be geek paradise! Me wants...

Turn Left was a decent episode with a brilliant cliffhanger (and trailer for next weeks episode). Don't think I can stand the wait for next Saturday.

Isn't it on beeb america?

Oh and the finale is going to be geek paradise! Me wants...

Naw. Torchwood is on BBCAmerica, but Doctor Who is on the Sci-Fi channel.

Naw. Torchwood is on BBCAmerica, but Doctor Who is on the Sci-Fi channel.

Ahh yes. Cold hard cash is king I guess.

Isn't it on beeb america?

Oh and the finale is going to be geek paradise! Me wants...

Its on SciFi here on Fridays @ 8 but its 2 weeks behind. We just got the Sara Jane Adventures this season. Its on before The Dr. but I haven't been watching it since wrestling is on at that time. The Dr. however gets shown again at 11.

Ahh yes. Cold hard cash is king I guess.

Also wider viewing audience.

mini spoiler
Loved every bit of turn left.. except for the 'trickster' creature or whatever he called it... couldnt they make a bug that looked more.. well alien.

Cant wait till the next episodes though :D!

The writers for these last two seasons have been brilliant. Far more intertwined stories lines. Even the spin off are intertwined nicely.

And Billie needs to take her retainer out when on camera. Did any one else notice her talking funny?

I justed watched it on a video hosting site, and it was awesome. It was nice seeing Bille Piper back again for more that just a cameo appearance.


Davros :D

Turn Left was a decent episode with a brilliant cliffhanger (and trailer for next weeks episode). Don't think I can stand the wait for next Saturday.
Just watched it on BBC3, I am also most excited about the next one!

I justed watched it on a video hosting site, and it was awesome. It was nice seeing Bille Piper back again for more that just a cameo appearance.


Davros :D


And apparently every single person who was in an episode of Doctor Who since the revival, plus friends :lol:

The bad wolf banners were originally Chinese before Donna said to the doctor the 2 words are bad wolf, the tardis is supposed to translate every language, one time it couldn't was in the Satan episode when the message was older then time itself, so why couldn't it translate it now? If jack is boe, then could Billie be Satan? Or the writers were just a bit lazy and didn't think of it?

Oh god, I'm becoming a DW fanboy aren't I?

How comes like every single episode which is set in 21st Century England they mention how all the bees are disappearing ?
Davros has been harvesting bees into a new army of Daleks :D.

The bad wolf banners were originally Chinese before Donna said to the doctor the 2 words are bad wolf, the tardis is supposed to translate every language, one time it couldn't was in the Satan episode when the message was older then time itself, so why couldn't it translate it now? If jack is boe, then could Billie be Satan? Or the writers were just a bit lazy and didn't think of it?

Oh god, I'm becoming a DW fanboy aren't I?

Yes you are.

Could have been they didn't say it until after time was altered. Or that the TARDIS doesn't translate unless you want it to. Kinda like the paper that shows what you want it to. There has to be a conscious effort.

Hrm. Maybe I shouldn't be reading the spoilers. I recall Rose early in the season, but I don't think I've seen her since then. Course, the last show to broadcast (here in the States) was the one with the shadow creatures on the planet library. I'm sure more have been shown in the UK.

Yeah. We're two shows ahead.

Hrm. Maybe I shouldn't be reading the spoilers. I recall Rose early in the season, but I don't think I've seen her since then. Course, the last show to broadcast (here in the States) was the one with the shadow creatures on the planet library. I'm sure more have been shown in the UK.
She's appeared a couple more times than that already as well.

The new series is very good, in fact I'd say as good as or better than the old 80's and 70's series.

Same old sense of humour and tongue in cheek action, but with superior special effects and very well written plot lines. Fans of the old series I think will not be dissapointed. Unless of course you want to see cheap costumes and terrible make up and special effects, then your out of luck;)
On the contrary, the new series has the same but in digitised versions! :)

Dodgy special effects is what I watched it for :D

No one else agrees with my bee conspiracy theory :(?

I'm really enjoying this series now. I had my doubts about Catherine Tate (I don't like her comedy series) but Turn Left really shows how she has grown in the role.

Nothing will keep me from the telly next Saturday.

I'm really enjoying this series now. I had my doubts about Catherine Tate (I don't like her comedy series) but Turn Left really shows how she has grown in the role.

Nothing will keep me from the telly next Saturday.
I wasn't keen on Catherine Tate either, but she's doing ok now:)

I was always fairly pleased with Tate being the new companion, which was probably helped by the fact I've never seen her on anything else beyond the Christmas special. Martha always annoyed me with the unrequited love thing - after Rose I just wanted a companion who could put the Doctor in his place :D

Still wanted Sally Sparrow as the companion, though

Still wanted Sally Sparrow as the companion, though

I did too. I'd just like to see her again. And the Dr.'s daughter.

I was always fairly pleased with Tate being the new companion, which was probably helped by the fact I've never seen her on anything else beyond the Christmas special. Martha always annoyed me with the unrequited love thing - after Rose I just wanted a companion who could put the Doctor in his place :D

Still wanted Sally Sparrow as the companion, though
I rather liked Martha;)

No one else agrees with my bee conspiracy theory :(?

I have a feeling it will play a part it the ending, if you've noticed, lots and planets and stuff have been disappearing (adipose planet, pyro thingies, lost moon of whatever), and then whadya know, the last episode had the sky going black.

Oh! I've got it (maybe), the "fabric" of time and space is breaking apart, and stuff is leaking from one universe to the other, and rose managed to slip through that crack.

I rather liked Martha;)

I don't mind her so much now she's gotten over the Doctor. I would have loved it if -at the end of the third series finale where she effectively defeats the Master and saves the world - she stayed on and became the sort of independent companion that Donna is now.

I do miss the Master though. All the spin-offs Doctor Who has now and they couldn't have one of John Simm gallivanting around the universe causing havoc? I would have been delighted at that.

I liked Martha as a companion but season 3 did have a few meh episodes which had nothing to do wih her. Seaon 4 is great and I like the new companion although she was annoying in the christmas bride episode.

...

Oh. My. God.

Seriously, I take back not being able to wait for today's episode. It's next week's one I need to see right now.

That was so unfair last night.
Finding a true love and then losing him because of a frakkin' speech impediment?! That's just wrong man, wrong. :(

Tonights episode was AWESOME!:goodjob:

OH boy, now wishing the week away...

Wow next week season final.

The pressure of the Time War being unlocked will quantum-lock the Doctor into a Weeping Angel. Don't even blink.

That was really, really bad. :ack:

Started watching the -05 and onwards series a couple of months ago. Surprisingly good. I was sceptical of British sci-fi at first, but it seems they actually got a budget now ;).

Although I have to say:

They really need to think up some new Evil Enemy. Sure the Dalek are great and they work, but seriously, three seasons in a row? Some original content please. Still like the show though.

trailer for next episode link


And damn my prediction about the bees' was wrong :(!
I just hope they dont use the big reset button, so everyone on earth forgets about what happend, like they did last season..

Tonight is gonna be awesome!!!!:D

Talk about stuff everything into it...

And we get the cybermen for Christmas!

Cybermen! Awesome!

Also I wonder if any Daleks survived....

Hey, hush! We're behind in the States!

SPOILERS AHOY (click at your own peril VRWCAgent;))


Better than last year's finale, but still a bit of a mess IMHO.

Bad bits:
-Cop out regeneration.
-Plot resolved by techno babble and button pushing.
-Rose and the double Docter's happy ending.

Good bits:
-Guy that played Davros.
-Wilf heading a tennis ball.
-Daleks spinning out of control, should be in every episode. :yup:

SPOILERS AHOY (click at your own peril VRWCAgent;))


Better than last year's finale, but still a bit of a mess IMHO.

Bad bits:
-Cop out regeneration.
-Plot resolved by techno babble and button pushing.
-Rose and the double Docter's happy ending.

Good bits:
-Guy that played Davros.
-Wilf heading a tennis ball.
-Daleks spinning out of control, should be in every episode. :yup:


Agree totally! You missed:


Good Bits:
-Jack's line on there being 'three' Doctors: "I can't tell you what I'm thinking right now."
-K9!!!
-Everyone being there and saying hello, particularly the Doctor noting Gwen's resemblance to the actress' character in an earlier episode :D

Bad Bits
-All that build-up from Dalek Kan (I prefer that spelling) about a companion dying, then a rather cop-out result. Be a bit more bold next time, we can handle some horrific events if there's an ultimately happy ending!
-Stop blasting ridiculous words at the end of the episode. Last week's TO BE CONTINUED was silly enough, this one's NEXT TIME! THE CYBERMEN was a bit silly.
-Distinct lack of Master. Can he get his own series yet?

I was sadly disappointed. It felt very anti-climatic.

Puppy :love:

I just watched a few episodes, the science is gobbledygook, and the dialogue was cheesy but it had a certain quirky charm.

Out of other british comedy I have watched I think the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy and red dwarf are better than this .

Agreed with those spoilers above and if I may just add


Good-Everyone vs Daleks! Totally awesome.


Bad- Too much of a fairytale ending..and they live happily ever on, meh, this is Doctor Who, people are supposed to die!
On the other hand, Donna not dieing might mean that she'll come back for some more!


All in all it could have been better, but still had me at the edge of my seat.

I felt bad for Donna, she had her brain wiped to save her life. I liked the Rose and Human Doctor happy ending and everyone vs. the Daleks.

Good, though their have been better finales.

Decent but nothing great. To be honest I don't think they are very good at making great finals. I like the stand-alone episodes better, laid-back humor, generally good stories and effects and doesn't take itself too seriously.

Speculation about next series, includes spoilers:

Davros said I'll hold you responsible for the destruction of worlds or something along those lines. Also when they activated the thing that killed of the Daleks the timelock at UNIT was shut down. It was activated in the Medusa cascade. Maybe the timelocked timewar was also unlocked? :)

My favorite bit was:

The German Daleks!

Exterminieren!

Also I wonder if any Daleks survived....

I think that's pretty inevitable. Which is getting pretty annoying in my opinion. They need to find some way of resolving the:

"All-The-Daleks-Died-In-The-Timewar-Except-These-ones-which-we-can-
bring-back-as-special-guest-monsters-by-stretching-the-audiences-disbelief" situation.

As per the finale episode, I thought it could be better. I tend to agree with peoples bad points.

additionally:

I wish the Reality bomb was a bomb that destroyed space/time. Destroying matter is just a unimaginative, and far less cool!

Speculation about next series, includes spoilers:

Davros said I'll hold you responsible for the destruction of worlds or something along those lines. Also when they activated the thing that killed of the Daleks the timelock at UNIT was shut down. It was activated in the Medusa cascade. Maybe the timelocked timewar was also unlocked? :)

I really hoped there would be more revealed about the Time War in these two episodes, particularly given it's such a big part of the new series :(

My favorite bit was:

The German Daleks!

Exterminieren!

:lol: Forgot about that. Was brilliant.

My favorite bit was:

The German Daleks!

Exterminieren!
Yeah, me and my mate were shouting that at each other all last night in the pub!:D

I was once told I look like a blonde David Tennant...

My favorite bit was:

The German Daleks!

Exterminieren!Yep, I still grin now when I think of that!

My favorite bit was:

The German Daleks!

Exterminieren!In the same vein my favorite part was in the first half, the final payoff to the ongoing Harriet Jones gag.

Speaking of great scenes:
Watch it Space man!
Watch it earth girl!
Oy!
Oy!
Oy!
Spanners!
The entire scene was great, and the music really helped :)

:bump:

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Beginning of the end for Tennant starting tomorrow. Hope it's a good one :)

Do we know of a replacement?

Do we know of a replacement?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleventh_Doctor

Do we know of a replacement?

Matt Smith. No we don't know who he is either.

But Stephen Moffat is in charge of the new series, and since he wrote the best episodes of the revived series (girl in fireplace, blink etc) I think we're in good hands...

Well part one was fairly good, took a while to set up but the ending was brilliant. And lots more Master, which I always love.

Timothy Dalton as a Time Lord. Does explain how James Bond's appearance keeps changing.

Well part one was fairly good, took a while to set up but the ending was brilliant. And lots more Master, which I always love.

So much more ;)

The ending of part 1 today was awesome!:D

The ending of part 1 today was awesome!:D

I can't stop watching it. Next week is too far away :D

Seemed directionless to me - not alot actually happened considering the show was an hour long. The acting from Tennant, Simm and Cribbins was good, I especially liked the scene where the Doc talks about how regenerating is like dying, but overall like so many of Russell T Davies' scripts it kinda had the feel of bad fan fiction IMHO. Hopefully part 2 will be better as Tennant deserves a good send off.

The 'master race' line at the end was brilliant. :D

ARRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! I want to live in the UK!!! :( :( :(

ARRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! I want to live in the UK!!! :( :( :(

Don't worry, I believe the episode premieres on BBC America tonight.

I missed whenever they showed Waters of Mars, though.

Everything Darth Pugwash just said.

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I love you, man! :love:

Everything Darth Pugwash just said.

Yeah, pretty much. Just watched it on BBC America.

While the acting was good, the writing and the whole plot really shows the worst of Russell T Davies' writing skills. It was just one asspull after another. There were some good bits, like the green cactus aliens and the conversation Pugwash mentioned about regeneration, but most of it was just senseless foreshadowing of stuff that's going to happen next episode.

I'll be glad when Moffat takes over.

I'll be honest, if it wasn't for the superlative acting making up for the otherwise mediocre plots and campy gimmicks I probably wouldn't be watching Doctor Who. David Tennant and Catherine Tate have made the show.

EDIT: I will admit that the story arcs are still beautifully crafted to conclusion, even if the episodes are mediocre. Donna also needs to come out on top, or else...

Wilfred Mott is to me, one of the most interesting bit players of the current series.

First two-thirds was typical RTD. Last third was RTD at his best. I loved all the character moments in Part 2.

Most emotional moments? Wilf quietly tapping the door, fulfilling the prophecy.

The Doctor going out like a spoiled child. "I don't want to go..."

Wilf quietly tapping the door, fulfilling the prophecy.


When I first heard the knocking after the Doctor had won, and realized it was Wilfred, I just froze in shock. It was a great scene.

And poor Master. All this time, nothing but a pawn of Rassilon James Bond.

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I've got my Dish DVR all set up to record it on BBCAmerica tonight :) :) :)

I am a BBCAmerican!

EDIT: By the way, for whatever reason, it looks like The SyFy Channel will no longer be the American distributor for Doctor Who. Whether they chose not to try to get it again or just lost out I don't know, but apparently BBCAmerica is going to be airing season 5 starting this spring. Good move by the BBC actually. I suspect at least a decent percentage of Doctor Who fans who may not already have BBCAmerica may well be willing to jump up a tier in programming to get it now.

Aww, part I was good, but part II was a real disseapointment.

Spoiler:
But at least the Master is still around, and who knows what slipped through the rift and managed to stay around :groucho: . Overall though they should have done more with the Timelords, they didn't accomplish anything and the whole story went pretty confused.

More or less agreed, but even the first part was just a touch muddled(?). I don't think the Time Lords are done for I would suggest that the as yet unnamed lady (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Woman)that the Doctor was so shocked to see is going to be a recurring theme in the coming season. Rushed, yes, finished, I don't think so.

Really you two?

Just as rushed as with the Master re-appearing at the end of last season. Yes, apparently the TimeLords and the Master are timelocked. But I don't think they're coming back. But the episode was Doctor Who done very, very well. No one really expected Wilf to be the knocker, they deflected that one good (though I did guess it). Very touching and proper sendoff. They're totally planting the seeds for the Doctor's eventual dark turn. There's alot hidden in there. Clearly the two votes against were the Doctor's mother and father. The Master's sudden face turn (or really, pissed off revenge turn), very good indeed.

My biggest issue with the story was the build up of "The Master Race" only to have a Deus Ex Machina take it all away. It seems to be the only way RTD ends those cool moments. But I find the concept that anyone suspected Wilf being The Doctor's downfall impossible; my heart jumped. I think The Master is to come back, seeing as how the prophecy claimed he and The Doctor would still be around after the Time War. Maybe that's just referencing Yana, but The Doctor got out of the Time War, why not The Doctor? Some Timelords and Daleks probably got out of the lock with that little stunt, but we'll need to wait for Moffats official say. Matt will probably do the character well. His voice someone annoyed me, but that's probably just a reaction to not wanting Tennant to go.

It was a pun not a clue.

Bit of a rubbish story but a wonderful finale. Everything that was set up seemed to be rushed along and, in some cases, quite literally hand-waved away (though I suppose it needed to be to set up Tennant's leaving montage). It was all rather exciting once Gallifrey decided to join the solar system, and I'm rather disappointed the Time Lords didn't properly return.

That said: Geronimo? Not quite a 'fantastic' or 'allons-y' now is it, number 11? :p

I fully expect to see the Master and the Tiemlords back after that ending! I did also wonder - was one of the voters against Donna? After all she is part time lord.....

Mystery Woman? My guess is she's Susan, or Romana. :)

The whole episode seemed rushed, slapdash, and hackneyed. The character bits with Tenant saying goodbye to his companions, and going out like a two year old throwing a temper tantrum, were quite nice, though.

It'll be interesting to see where the series goes now with Moffet and Smith. Should be fun.

And just out of curiosity, did anyone else find Wilf's mancrush on The Doctor to be vaguely uncomfortable.

FYI for those of you with BBC America access. BBC America will be showing The Waters of Mars, The End OF Time, and a Graham Norton Doctor Who special this Sunday afternoon.

I -am- a BBCAmerica!

The Doctor going out like a spoiled child. "I don't want to go..."

Hey now. He just basically explained that it's essentially like dying -- sure the memories and consciousness live on, but the whole demeanor and thought process of every Doctor is different. And to be perfectly honest with you, if I see my death coming like that, I'll probably be a bit miffed as well.

Hell, I was surprised they didn't break out the big "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO", which it looked like Tennant was gearing up for (happy they didn't, though).

Non-spoilerific: It's a pretty decent episode, contrived in places, but definitely worth watching.

So excited for Moffat, too -- he's been far and away the best writer of the new series, period.

It's been over a week, and the episodes are available all over the interwebs. Are spoilers really necessary at this point? :confused:

All the cool kids are doing it... :p

So excited for Moffat, too -- he's been far and away the best writer of the new series, period.

As showrunner though? That should be interesting, though if the series is half as fantastic as any one of his episodes, I'll be happy. And I liked this, which is attributed to him:

"As we all know, it is the proper duty of every British subject to come to the aid of the TARDIS."

Might have been made up. But it's quite right :D

I too am looking forward to seeing how Moffat does. Blink still gives me the creeps and I though my years of that with Dr Who were long in the past!

Everything was fine and as well as can be expected from an RTD finale, but, eh...


Geronimo? Really? It just ended on a sour note :rolleyes:

Apparently the BBC have been recieving complaints (http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/response/2010/01/100106_res_doctorwho_ginger_jmf.shtml) about the 11th Doctor's comments that he's not ginger. Having researched it further, I can only say that this article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jan/07/ginger-fringe-doctor-who) is utterly correct in its assessment.

I am also, for the record, not ginger.

Apparently the BBC have been recieving complaints (http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/response/2010/01/100106_res_doctorwho_ginger_jmf.shtml) about the 11th Doctor's comments that he's not ginger. Having researched it further, I can only say that this article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jan/07/ginger-fringe-doctor-who) is utterly correct in its assessment.

I am also, for the record, not ginger.

After 6, the Doctor is not keen on being Ginger again. Maybe that's the symbol of The Valeyard.

I thought the Doctor wanted to be ginger?

I thought the Doctor wanted to be ginger?

He does. The gingers are becoming like those who see sexism/ racism/ whatever in every shadow.

I thought the Doctor wanted to be ginger?

And that Donna Noble and his next companion are ginger. They're just complaining for the sake of it, it seems.

K7_JghwTWaA

Just over a week away, and from this trailer I'm getting rather excited.

Daleks during war-time with the union flag on them? Spitfires battling alien craft...in space? It's so ridiculous it might just be amazing :D

OMG! I just checked BBCAmerica and we cousins across the pond don't have much longer to wait either! Season 5 starts April 17th!

http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/doctor-who/index.jsp

I dance, Doctor, I dance!

Can't wait. :D

Although, I do expect it to be slow-going; it usually takes a season to hit stride and find the characters.

A WEEK? And there was much celebrating in the house of Masada.

I'm joining the VRCW cross-partisian pro-Doctor dance-a-thon.

I dance, Doctor, I dance!

Isn't that just like a time lord? uniting humanity! :D :goodjob:

Isn't that just like a time lord? uniting humanity!

Against the Alien menace! :D