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Nerdking Jul 15, 2007, 01:39 AM Just curious, but I've noticed that there has been so much hype for this game for the past two years or so.
Has anyone else ever seen so much hype, when the game still has a year to go before its release?
now i can't wait till its release...again
I know exactly how you feel. Everytime something new comes out I get SUPER pumped up...
and then I forget about it two weeks later.
Till Jul 15, 2007, 04:58 AM Just curious, but I've noticed that there has been so much hype for this game for the past two years or so.
Has anyone else ever seen so much hype, when the game still has a year to go before its release?
Black&White also received an incredible amount of publicity, starting from day it was announced. Like Spore, it had an interesting premise, stunning graphics, and a famous developer.
CivGeneral Jul 15, 2007, 12:47 PM IIRC, there was Duke Nukem Forever that is STILL in development for almost a decade (Since 1997). Somehow, I have a feeling that SPORE is just going to become one of thoes games that are like Duke Nukem Forever that would be on a very VERY long term development.
In other words, I have a feeling that SPORE would become a Vaporware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware)
a space oddity Jul 15, 2007, 04:19 PM I've been following progress closely and a few months ago I would have agreed, maybe.
But not now, the latest info shows no sign of the developing team being scaled down, there's a lot of progress. Scaling down efforts is usually the first sign of a project going the vapourware way.
A large team working means costs remain high, which in turn means it can't be endless, even EA will run out of money at some point. Then Spore has to be released to see at least some of the investment returned.
I think we'll see Spore in 2008.
0d1n3oo3Broad Jul 15, 2007, 04:27 PM IIRC, there was Duke Nukem Forever that is STILL in development for almost a decade (Since 1997). Somehow, I have a feeling that SPORE is just going to become one of thoes games that are like Duke Nukem Forever that would be on a very VERY long term development.
In other words, I have a feeling that SPORE would become a Vaporware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware)
You would be right if we haven't seen anything of Spore yet, but we have. What was the last time you have seen an Ingame-Screenshot or even a Gameplay-Movie of Duke Nukem Forever that shows the actual developement-status?
I follow Spore since it's announcement in early 2005 and i can say, it doesn't look in any kind that this will become vaporware.
I think that in a year from now we all have our Spore at home and are nicely playing :)
thenooblet22 Jul 15, 2007, 05:05 PM IIRC, there was Duke Nukem Forever that is STILL in development for almost a decade (Since 1997). Somehow, I have a feeling that SPORE is just going to become one of thoes games that are like Duke Nukem Forever that would be on a very VERY long term development.
In other words, I have a feeling that SPORE would become a Vaporware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware)
Just curious. Will you actually play this game even though you don't believe in evolution? (I'm not exactly sure if you do, but I know you are Christian)
0d1n3oo3Broad Jul 15, 2007, 06:17 PM Christians do believe in Evolution, but "Creationists" don't.
But Spore is anyway a 100% Intelligent Design-Simulation and not an Evolution-Sim...
btw, why do you came up with this question? CivGeneral hasn't said anywhere that he don't "believe" in Evolution. At least i hasn't read it anywhere...
Nerdking Jul 15, 2007, 08:38 PM WARNING! WARNING! TENSIONS RISING:mad:
Let's diffuse the situation with a dirty joke:
A horse fell in the mud
thenooblet22 Jul 15, 2007, 09:58 PM Christians do believe in Evolution, but "Creationists" don't.
But Spore is anyway a 100% Intelligent Design-Simulation and not an Evolution-Sim...
btw, why do you came up with this question? CivGeneral hasn't said anywhere that he don't "believe" in Evolution. At least i hasn't read it anywhere...
I don't know what sect you are, but my family is Catholic and they don't believe in evolution. I asked because I knew from another thread he was religious, but I put in paranthesis to correct me if he did believe in evolution. Please read what I comment before accusing me of anything.
I didn't know Intelligent design didn't correspond with evolution. I'm pretty sure thats what Will Wright was heading for. You evolve new body parts, you evolve more itelligance, you evolve from a cell, creature, tribe, civilization to a galactic empire.
Nylan Jul 15, 2007, 10:06 PM The more I see the graphics on this. The more I dread it's system requirements.
I know exactly how you feel :(
0d1n3oo3Broad Jul 16, 2007, 03:15 AM I don't know what sect you are, but my family is Catholic and they don't believe in evolution. I asked because I knew from another thread he was religious, but I put in paranthesis to correct me if he did believe in evolution. Please read what I comment before accusing me of anything.
I didn't know Intelligent design didn't correspond with evolution. I'm pretty sure thats what Will Wright was heading for. You evolve new body parts, you evolve more itelligance, you evolve from a cell, creature, tribe, civilization to a galactic empire.
I don't want do debate, but how come you ask me, in what sect i am?! Despite the fact that this questions is purely unpolitely, this question should be asked from me to you. I am catholic, i don't believe in creationism or ID or in any of the other corresponding fantasy-constructions, i see the facts and know evolution happens and has happened all the time and at least, as it counts for us catholics, the pope said evolution doesn't go against christian believe.
Creationism and consorts is antisience, it's purly religious, not christian, but creationistic religious. I mean, come on, creationist propagate that dinosaurs were on the ark!
Btw, i asked you why you asked him this question, i haven't accused you on anything. Please read my reply again.
And no, ID is purely Creationism, well, in fact ID=Creationism. And in Spore you are the intelligent being and you create creatures from the cell to a space-farring civ. If Spore would be purely Evolution, you have to wait and watch how cells are forming, how fish are forming out of the cells and so on and so forth. You wouldn't have any controll of anything, well peraps until the tribe-stage at least.
Btw, Will Wright self said that Spore is pure ID.
That's my comment, i won't hijack this thread, i just wanted to tell my opnion on this.
For me this debate is at least in this thread over and i won't reply on this in this thread. If you want to discuss further, open a thread in the propper section.
Phlegmak Jul 16, 2007, 09:22 AM You evolve new body parts, you evolve more itelligance, you evolve from a cell, creature, tribe, civilization to a galactic empire.
0d1n3oo3Broad is correct. There is no evolution in this game.
salty mud Jul 16, 2007, 10:26 AM 0d1n3oo3Broad is correct. There is no evolution in this game.
What? That is what the whole game is about!
a space oddity Jul 16, 2007, 10:42 AM It seems they succeeded in making it evolution/creationist neutral... :lol:
thenooblet22 Jul 16, 2007, 10:48 AM I don't want do debate, but how come you ask me, in what sect i am?!
Why do you take every question as a damn insult? Your sensitivity really pisses me off because I asked merely just to ask. How dare I ask? How dare I wonder?
Despite the fact that this questions is purely unpolitely, this question should be asked from me to you. I am catholic, i don't believe in creationism or ID or in any of the other corresponding fantasy-constructions, i see the facts and know evolution happens and has happened all the time and at least, as it counts for us catholics, the pope said evolution doesn't go against christian believe.
The pope might have said it doesn't go against the belief, but in my Catholic schools we were taught everything against evolution (even though I myself am not religious). It is quite new to me that every Christian, at least the majority, believes in evolution. I thought the polls were quite the opposite.
Creationism and consorts is antisience, it's purly religious, not christian, but creationistic religious. I mean, come on, creationist propagate that dinosaurs were on the ark!
Btw, i asked you why you asked him this question, i haven't accused you on anything. Please read my reply again.
I heard your reply and I'm going to have to say the same thing for the third time. So here it is, to nail it home for ya. I asked CivGeneral, since I know he is religious, if he would buy the game if he didn't believe in evolution, which I put in paranthesese if he did believe in evolution, to correct me. I don't know why you flame bait me with these pointless responses. I said nothing wrong.
And no, ID is purely Creationism, well, in fact ID=Creationism. And in Spore you are the intelligent being and you create creatures from the cell to a space-farring civ. If Spore would be purely Evolution, you have to wait and watch how cells are forming, how fish are forming out of the cells and so on and so forth. You wouldn't have any controll of anything, well peraps until the tribe-stage at least.
Uh, no. Each generation of beings in this game evolves new body parts or gains intelligence. That's how it works. What do you call going from cell to animal to civilization? It's evolution. You can spin it off anyway you like, it still is what it is.
Btw, Will Wright self said that Spore is pure ID.
Give me a link. I'll be damned if I believe anything from your mouth anymore.
That's my comment, i won't hijack this thread, i just wanted to tell my opnion on this.
For me this debate is at least in this thread over and i won't reply on this in this thread. If you want to discuss further, open a thread in the propper section
No, if your going to attack my comments, I'll do the same likewise. If you want it to stop, never quote me again.
Phlegmak Jul 16, 2007, 02:45 PM What? That is what the whole game is about!
You could say it's about directed evolution, but directed evolution isn't real evolution, since nothing is directing real evolution. Spore is better described as intelligent design.
I found an article discussing this subject. Maybe the article writer is more thorough and eloquent than I.
http://saintgasoline.com/2007/06/01/an-intelligent-design-simulation/
William Dembski, a famous proponant of Intelligent Design, also notices that Spore is about ID, not evolution.
http://www.arn.org/blogs/index.php/3/2006/03/06/intelligent_design_the_game
http://www.uncommondescent.com/off-topic/sort-of-off-topicspore-and-id-continued/
a space oddity Jul 16, 2007, 02:48 PM You could say it's about directed evolution, but directed evolution isn't real evolution, since nothing is directing real evolution. Spore is better described as intelligent design.But a faulty design will fail in Spore, just like it will in evolution. So yes, it's design, but is it intelligent...? ;)
Phlegmak Jul 16, 2007, 03:00 PM But a faulty design will fail in Spore, just like it will in evolution. So yes, it's design, but is it intelligent...? ;)
I sincerely doubt a faulty design will fail in Spore. I watched the videos of creatures that looked doomed, yet they thrived. The three legged creature in Will Wright's first demo. You can't move fast with three legs. Once the three legged creatures eat all the slow prey, they now have to contend with the fast prey. I suspect what happens is their prey animals in the game don't evolve at all. They just remain slow.
It remains to be seen just how easily a poorly designed creature can survive, but I feel strongly that most will do just fine.
0d1n3oo3Broad Jul 16, 2007, 04:29 PM Why do you take every question as a damn insult? Your sensitivity really pisses me off because I asked merely just to ask. How dare I ask? How dare I wonder?
Yeah, my sensitivity :lol:
You asked me in which sect i am, because i don't believe in ID. It seems that you assume that every christian believes in ID in the sense it is taught by the creationists on american schools, as "science" and "based on facts".
The pope might have said it doesn't go against the belief, but in my Catholic schools we were taught everything against evolution (even though I myself am not religious). It is quite new to me that every Christian, at least the majority, believes in evolution. I thought the polls were quite the opposite.
Then I'm sorry for the USA. In Europe most people don't even know what ID is and when they do, then they wonder why the bible is used as a science book and how those people are reading out of the bible that dinosaurs survived the flood in the ark. Even on bavarian catholic Schools, which are very conservative, ID is not teached, not in the reliogious subject and especially not in science-subjects like biology. Sadly this is the case in the only superpower on the globe.
I heard your reply and I'm going to have to say the same thing for the third time. So here it is, to nail it home for ya. I asked CivGeneral, since I know he is religious, if he would buy the game if he didn't believe in evolution, which I put in paranthesese if he did believe in evolution, to correct me. I don't know why you flame bait me with these pointless responses. I said nothing wrong.
I don't flame bait anything. At first i just asked why you ask him this question. I didn't know that he said earlier anywhere that he's religious. Btw: You haven't really asked him if he believes in evolution, but if he buys the game, because of the assumption that he don't believe in evolution because he's christian.
At second i just wanted to show my opinion on this subject.
Uh, no. Each generation of beings in this game evolves new body parts or gains intelligence. That's how it works. What do you call going from cell to animal to civilization? It's evolution. You can spin it off anyway you like, it still is what it is.
Nope. Not the beings evolve new bodyparts, you, the intelligent designer, decides what parts you put on our creature.
Give me a link. I'll be damned if I believe anything from your mouth anymore.
DM: In Wikipedia, Spore is described as a "Teleological Evolution" game. Do you think the game will bring natural selection to the masses?
WW: You can look at it in a number of different ways. What's ironic, really, is it's intelligent design. As a player, you go through an arc of being this lowly little cell, being attacked by pond scum, to eventually becoming a god. At the godlike level, you can almost do the whole creationist thing if you want. "I will create a planet; I will create species; I will put them on the planet." But you're a God without a whole lot of foresight. You put all this stuff on a planet, and it might go kerflooey. You might make a really badly balanced ecosystem. You're not necessarily an omnipotent god. That's even more fun. You have these godlike powers, yet the repercussions of them become totally unpredictable to you.
Link: http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=5781.msg186183#msg186183
No, if your going to attack my comments, I'll do the same likewise. If you want it to stop, never quote me again.
I don't attack your comments per se, i'm discussing (with you) on the subject. At least i thought that.
Reply in red
Elta Jul 17, 2007, 02:20 AM While I haven't read the entire thread, I have watched the video and it looks fantastic, infact I am saving up for a new rig I want by new years just so I can run it to it's full extent ;)
a space oddity Jul 17, 2007, 04:12 AM I sincerely doubt a faulty design will fail in Spore. I watched the videos of creatures that looked doomed, yet they thrived. The three legged creature in Will Wright's first demo. You can't move fast with three legs. Once the three legged creatures eat all the slow prey, they now have to contend with the fast prey. I suspect what happens is their prey animals in the game don't evolve at all. They just remain slow.
It remains to be seen just how easily a poorly designed creature can survive, but I feel strongly that most will do just fine.In a sense you're right because it is you, the player, that drives the creature. We humans evolved to make do with a sub-optimal physical design. :mischief:
Still, I will be disappointed if it will be easy to make a creature survive without a mouth.
thenooblet22 Jul 17, 2007, 12:32 PM Yeah, my sensitivity
You asked me in which sect i am, because i don't believe in ID. It seems that you assume that every christian believes in ID in the sense it is taught by the creationists on american schools, as "science" and "based on facts".
Let's investigate this. Did I really ask for your sect personally? I think I actually led a sentence starting with this: "I don't know what sect you are..." You assume I assume anything, when I was really describing my experience. Maybe you should stop being so defensive and realize I have done none of what you're desribing.
Then I'm sorry for the USA. In Europe most people don't even know what ID is and when they do, then they wonder why the bible is used as a science book and how those people are reading out of the bible that dinosaurs survived the flood in the ark. Even on bavarian catholic Schools, which are very conservative, ID is not teached, not in the reliogious subject and especially not in science-subjects like biology. Sadly this is the case in the only superpower on the globe.
I'm sorry that you're stuck to generalize everything. Following your logic, I guess, since Germany was once a facist state, everyone there are hitler-lovers and hate jews. Again, my experience, my story. May I introduce you to the other millions that live in the United States?
I don't flame bait anything. At first i just asked why you ask him this question. I didn't know that he said earlier anywhere that he's religious. Btw: You haven't really asked him if he believes in evolution, but if he buys the game, because of the assumption that he don't believe in evolution because he's christian.
At second i just wanted to show my opinion on this subject.
If you're weren't flame baiting, then you're are just an idiot. And once again, you come back to this. I have explained this countless times so let me draw a freaking picture for you. "Just curious. Will you actually play this game even though you don't believe in evolution? -here, I ask whether he will buy the game if he doesn't believe in evolution- (I'm not exactly sure if you do, but I know you are Christian)" -here, I say I'm uncertain, that I only know he is religious, and infer him to correct me- So, you see, I was not out of bounds as you keep proposing. You can stop nick-picking what I said, since I just did it for you.
Nope. Not the beings evolve new bodyparts, you, the intelligent designer, decides what parts you put on our creature.
Yeah, sure. I guess the Civilization series is intelligent design too, since you know, we are using our mouses to make cities and war armies. Come on, Spore is regulated by a simplified game version of evolution where after consuming and surviving, you repoduce and collect points to either evolve new body parts or gain more intelligence. Arguing the player does this as an intelligent designer is a weak counter as most games use 'intelligent players' to play the game...
Will Wright interview in Discover magazine a year ago
DM: In Wikipedia, Spore is described as a "Teleological Evolution" game. Do you think the game will bring natural selection to the masses?
WW: You can look at it in a number of different ways. What's ironic, really, is it's intelligent design. As a player, you go through an arc of being this lowly little cell, being attacked by pond scum, to eventually becoming a god. At the godlike level, you can almost do the whole creationist thing if you want. "I will create a planet; I will create species; I will put them on the planet." But you're a God without a whole lot of foresight. You put all this stuff on a planet, and it might go kerflooey. You might make a really badly balanced ecosystem. You're not necessarily an omnipotent god. That's even more fun. You have these godlike powers, yet the repercussions of them become totally unpredictable to you.
As I said, you can spin it anyway you like. However, in this clipping you gave me, it seems he is talking about the galactic gameplay of meddling with planets and creatures. The series of transforming from cell to creature to tribe to civilization is very much a dumbed-down version of evolution. Again, EA will market this game anyway they can to gain more audience. However, it is what it is.
I don't attack your comments per se, i'm discussing (with you) on the subject. At least i thought that.
The way you reacted and responded to my question to CivGeneral was an attack. Assuming that I assumed anything is a kind of thing that ticks me off and I will defend what I've said. I will discuss about evolution vs intelligent design, but if you think you can put words in my mouth or accuse my of thinking anything, then you're dead wrong.
a space oddity Jul 17, 2007, 02:01 PM OK guys, why don't you take your quabble elsewhere, while we watch the new video!
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/146
Including an explanation by Will Wright at TED in march this year.
Phlegmak Jul 17, 2007, 03:48 PM Still, I will be disappointed if it will be easy to make a creature survive without a mouth.
Hey, you know what? There are indeed creatures that survive without mouths, and I'm not talking about amoebas. Tapeworms! No mouth, no digestive system, no brain, pretty much nothing. They're just reproductive organs, mostly. They absorb their nutrients via osmosis.
I think all of the Spore videos contain creatures with mouths though. :) Basically, all of the creatures are simply Earth animal life but with a variety of different shapes. (They all have bones, a spine, hands, legs, feet, eyes, mouth, ears, nose, a head, a torso, a brain.)
Nerdking Jul 17, 2007, 03:53 PM They absorb their nutrients via osmosis.
Nerd Alert!
Osmosis is diffusion of water through a semi-permeable membrane. Unless their vital nutrient is water, they get nothing from osmosis
Nerd Alert Over!
a space oddity Jul 17, 2007, 04:06 PM Hey, you know what? There are indeed creatures that survive without mouths, and I'm not talking about amoebas. Tapeworms! No mouth, no digestive system, no brain, pretty much nothing. They're just reproductive organs, mostly. They absorb their nutrients via osmosis.
I think all of the Spore videos contain creatures with mouths though. :) Basically, all of the creatures are simply Earth animal life but with a variety of different shapes. (They all have bones, a spine, hands, legs, feet, eyes, mouth, ears, nose, a head, a torso, a brain.)So I should have said: Still, I will be disappointed if it will be easy to make a creature survive without a mouth in Spore. Sigh.
Did you at least watch the video? It was posted on the TED website only today, so this is HOT NEWS...! :lol:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/SpaceOddity_2001/TED_name_your_planet.jpg
0d1n3oo3Broad Jul 17, 2007, 04:41 PM Nice video!
But on the top left it says that it was recorded in march '07, so not really hot news, but nonetheless a great video :)
The lavaplanet was great. And the Monolith is something i will use very very often.
@thenooblet22
I don't reply, because i have everything said i wanted to say and i would just repeat me. If you want a reply, read my post you quoted.
As said, i don't want do hijack this thread, so i will end this discussion here and now. If you want to discuss further, open a new thread or pm me, but you won't hear anything new there also.
OK, just one thing: Civilization is a godgame, not ID. You don't create new creatures ingame, just overlasting more than 6000 years as the leader of a civilization.
Phlegmak Jul 17, 2007, 06:03 PM Nerd Alert!
Osmosis is diffusion of water through a semi-permeable membrane. Unless their vital nutrient is water, they get nothing from osmosis
Nerd Alert Over!
This exact same conversation came up between me and a teacher about 20 years ago. I said the same thing that you just said. The teacher in question corrected me and showed me why she was right. I don't remember the exact reasoning. If osmosis is the wrong word, then what is the right word for how tapeworms get their nutrients to the inner part of their bodies?
By the way, there's nothing nerdy about the definition of a word.
Nerdking Jul 17, 2007, 09:24 PM This exact same conversation came up between me and a teacher about 20 years ago. I said the same thing that you just said. The teacher in question corrected me and showed me why she was right. I don't remember the exact reasoning. If osmosis is the wrong word, then what is the right word for how tapeworms get their nutrients to the inner part of their bodies?
By the way, there's nothing nerdy about the definition of a word.
This is an inside joke that only I get
The other day my brother was playing piano to entertain some guests, and he played all of the songs he knew.
One guest recommended that he just put his face on the book and let himself learn via osmosis.
My brother and I correct people all the time for using osmosis incorrectly, and I couldn't pass up this chance, so I proudly stood up and stated, "Osmosis is diffusion of water through a semi-permeable membrane!"
The man whom I corrected then looked me straight in the face and blandly stated, "Who said, 'Chris stand up and say something nerdy?'"
I then began to cry
Truronian Jul 20, 2007, 03:50 AM This exact same conversation came up between me and a teacher about 20 years ago. I said the same thing that you just said. The teacher in question corrected me and showed me why she was right. I don't remember the exact reasoning. If osmosis is the wrong word, then what is the right word for how tapeworms get their nutrients to the inner part of their bodies?
By the way, there's nothing nerdy about the definition of a word.
Perhaps the nutrients are in solution?
Abaddon Jul 24, 2007, 05:46 PM the word you are looking for is diffusion.
BUT what the tapeworms actually use is active transport, id presume.
Lord_Iggy Aug 01, 2007, 11:12 PM Yay! Seeing those videos from early June really got me excited again.
Good thing I still have a bunch of great games to play before then.
Pariah Aug 20, 2007, 09:18 AM WHY ARE WE WAITING?!?!?
SPORE delay's frustrating...
Oh put it on sale soon and let us begin..!
0d1n3oo3Broad Aug 20, 2007, 02:03 PM I read that (perhaps WW and) Spore will be on the Games Convention in Leipzig this week. I'm very excited about that and about the news :)
Pariah Aug 22, 2007, 07:23 AM Further information about Leipzig here (http://www.xspore.com/).
Lord_Iggy Aug 24, 2007, 10:06 PM I hope their info on the Zerg too!
sirtommygunn Aug 24, 2007, 10:54 PM I hope their info on the Zerg too!
:confused:
Lord_Iggy Aug 25, 2007, 12:52 AM I believe that Blizzard is attending the Leipzig Convention as well, and Zerg is the only race with next to no information on it for Starcraft II.
a space oddity Aug 26, 2007, 04:06 AM You can find new videos here (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23832.html).
And I have attached one of the new images. :)
Lord_Iggy Aug 26, 2007, 03:40 PM Awesome!!!
sirtommygunn Aug 26, 2007, 10:16 PM cant... wait... for.... game!
Phlegmak Aug 27, 2007, 04:16 PM I don't know if this one was shown already.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3NA-aKpgFk
It really annoys me that he keeps saying his game is about evolution. Darwin and this video game have nothing in common.
a space oddity Aug 27, 2007, 04:48 PM Here's a new creature:
http://spore.strategyplanet.gamespy.com/hotcold/explorationblogs/SpaceOddity/blogworks/data/upimages/Spider.JPG
You can find more on Hooked on Spore (http://www.hookedonspore.com/forwarder.html?http://www.hookedonspore.com/screenshots/index.php?album=gc-leipzig-additional-creatures).
Follow the link in my sig to see five of the in-game editors.
a space oddity Aug 28, 2007, 03:14 PM More pictures @ http://spore.4players.de/galerie_1_1004.html
http://spore.strategyplanet.gamespy.com/hotcold/explorationblogs/SpaceOddity/blogworks/data/upimages/BeeldjeSmaller.JPG
Luckymoose Aug 30, 2007, 03:54 PM Something about spore has changed and the new look doesn't appeal to me as much. I don't know why.
Catharsis Aug 30, 2007, 05:15 PM Blimey! From the looks of that picture, Spore's graphics are getting worse! :dubious:
They are, ya know. Maybe they got toned down for reasons to do with system requirements.
Lord_Iggy Sep 04, 2007, 12:05 AM Something about spore has changed and the new look doesn't appeal to me as much. I don't know why.
Is it the cartoony look?
Luckymoose Sep 04, 2007, 01:53 AM Is it the cartoony look?
Yes. When it first was displayed 2 years ago it had pretty cool and not childish graphics. And even blood.
Phlegmak Sep 04, 2007, 08:31 AM Something about spore has changed and the new look doesn't appeal to me as much. I don't know why.
Will Wright put eyeballs on the microorganisms. :shake:
salty mud Sep 10, 2007, 03:51 PM Still... The animals are looking pretty sweet!
Luckymoose Sep 14, 2007, 12:41 AM Release date March 8th 2008
a space oddity Sep 14, 2007, 01:35 AM Be careful, that date is not confirmed by EA yet.
Luckymoose Sep 15, 2007, 01:41 AM Be careful, that date is not confirmed by EA yet.
But by the creator.
a space oddity Sep 15, 2007, 11:16 AM Check out my blog (http://spore.strategyplanet.gamespy.com/hotcold/explorationblogs/SpaceOddity/spaceoddity.html?subaction=showfull&id=1189863283&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&) for a new interview about Spore featuring Will Wright at the Maxis offices.
a space oddity Jan 18, 2008, 04:50 PM Four months later and finally they seem to be gearing towards release. EA is stepping up there Spore action and started by announcing that Spore will be released on PC and Mac simultaneously.
This is how it looks on Mac:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/SpaceOddity_2001/SporepediaMac.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/SpaceOddity_2001/ContentBrowser.jpg
Luckymoose Jan 18, 2008, 05:45 PM If its going to be on mac I can finally have an excuse to go buy an iMac.
salty mud Jan 19, 2008, 03:50 AM Any idea on system specs?
a space oddity Jan 19, 2008, 04:12 AM No, not yet, but the game will definitely come out this year, so they'll be known at some point. I'll keep you guys posted. (Or better still just check my blog (http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&s=s41spaceoddity), I keep it up-to-date with all the latest Spore news.
salty mud Jan 19, 2008, 04:20 AM Stop advertising your blog! :p
a space oddity Jan 19, 2008, 05:18 PM I figured I could get away with one every four months or so. Guess not! ;)
SS-18 ICBM Jan 20, 2008, 12:10 PM Will it come out on next-gen consoles?
salty mud Jan 20, 2008, 12:25 PM It was planned too, but will come out on PC first.
SS-18 ICBM Jan 20, 2008, 12:27 PM That's all I wanted to hear.
Luckymoose Jan 21, 2008, 08:31 PM It is is on Mac it can be assumed the requirements will not be uber in the graphics department. So any of the new Macs should be able to play it just fine. Plus being procedural it might have similar to Sims 2 requirements or even lower.
Chris85 Jan 21, 2008, 08:58 PM So this game is finally going to come out? :yumyum:
Stormrage Jan 21, 2008, 09:20 PM Spore, Spore, Spore! Since Games Workshop Orcs and Orks reproduce by spores, and this game covers all life-form stages, guess what my gaming is going to look like?
WAAAAGH!
salty mud Jan 22, 2008, 09:58 AM Can you create a race of giant turd-like creatures?
Chris85 Jan 22, 2008, 10:45 AM ...and so the turd-like creatures and the Orks will battle for domination of the universe. :mwaha:
Luckymoose Jan 22, 2008, 11:39 AM I personally will make a tiny creature with a big head. So it looks like a race of tiny tweety birds. They will be the top carnivore on my planet. Which will have nothing but tiny critters.
SuperBeaverInc. Jan 22, 2008, 12:30 PM Giant carnivorous beavers, FTW!
Luckymoose Jan 22, 2008, 01:09 PM Giant carnivorous beavers, FTW!
Sounds like my Saturday night. :lol:
SS-18 ICBM Jan 22, 2008, 02:42 PM I wonder if I can make humanity.
salty mud Jan 22, 2008, 03:38 PM I wonder if I can make humanity.
You could make a species to look like humanity, but why when giant turd-like creatures are available?
SS-18 ICBM Jan 22, 2008, 03:50 PM You could make a species to look like humanity, but why when giant turd-like creatures are available?
I'll do both then, and then some. :)
PrinceScamp Jan 22, 2008, 04:00 PM You could make a species to look like humanity, but why when giant turd-like creatures are available?
There's a difference?
SS-18 ICBM Jan 22, 2008, 04:17 PM There's a difference?
Superficial, mostly.
Fr8monkey Jan 24, 2008, 03:34 AM Just checked in on a local game store. They have May 2nd as the latest release date.
Luckymoose Jan 24, 2008, 03:56 AM Just checked in on a local game store. They have May 2nd as the latest release date.
You can't trust local game stores for anything. Before we got a GameStop we had a Rhino Games. They once had a games release date as the next day when I called in but I showed up and they said they just sold the last copy.
JtheJackal Jan 24, 2008, 11:46 AM You can't trust local game stores for anything. Before we got a GameStop we had a Rhino Games. They once had a games release date as the next day when I called in but I showed up and they said they just sold the last copy.
Then the game was released when they said it was?
salty mud Jan 24, 2008, 01:37 PM Then the game was released when they said it was?
I think they were lying and pretending they given away all the copies when they didn't recieve any... (wrong date)
:confused:
Luckymoose Jan 24, 2008, 01:49 PM Then the game was released when they said it was?
No they sold the game a day early but told me on the phone it wasn't released yet.
CivGeneral Jan 25, 2008, 03:47 AM Sounds like they have been planning to releace the game.
Again, I am not looking forward to seeing the system requirements for this game.
Luckymoose Jan 25, 2008, 10:59 AM Again, I am not looking forward to seeing the system requirements for this game.
They are supposed to be low. Spore is aimed at average Joe who has average PC.
salty mud Jan 25, 2008, 11:19 AM They are supposed to be low. Spore is aimed at average Joe who has average PC.
Could you point me in the direction where you learned this information?
Luckymoose Jan 26, 2008, 05:45 AM Could you point me in the direction where you learned this information?
It was in one of the videos Will Wright did. He said the requirements would be considerably lower than the average games coming out today. He said if your PC could play Sims 2 then it most likely could play Spore. You have to keep in mind this game is not graphically intense. Plus everything is procedural and a creature only takes up a few kilobytes which seriously reduces loading times. The game, just like the Sims. Is aimed and will be marketed for everyone who owns a relatively new PC. As in last couple years.
Chris85 Jan 26, 2008, 11:35 AM I also heard they were trying to keep the system requirements lower. I probably heard it from that same video.
I just realized something, if they indeed release Spore on March 8th that means:
Mar 8 - Spore
Mar 9 - SSB: Brawl
Mar 11 - FF CC: Ring of Fates
Mar 25 - Okami (Wii)
Mar 25 - Far Cry 2
Mar 25 - Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core
Mar 25 - Assassin's Creed (PC)
I'm not leaving my house all March and a good chunk of April. :wow:
a space oddity Jan 26, 2008, 03:00 PM It will most definitely not be March 8th, in fact it is long known that Spore will not be released in the fiscal year 2008, i.e. not before April 1st. Rumors are building that it might be June 18th.
A firm date is expected within a few weeks/days.
salty mud Jan 26, 2008, 03:41 PM Is each 'game' totally random? For example, if I create a race of giant turd-like creatures and explore other planets and learn other species, will different planets and lifeforms be discovered if I create a race of Giant Carnivorous Beavers?
Fr8monkey Jan 26, 2008, 04:26 PM I am wondering when the demo is coming out. It's usually before the game hits the stores and I havn't seen anything about it.
Luckymoose Jan 26, 2008, 06:18 PM Is each 'game' totally random? For example, if I create a race of giant turd-like creatures and explore other planets and learn other species, will different planets and lifeforms be discovered if I create a race of Giant Carnivorous Beavers?
Everything is random, procedural is the word. You will most likely not find the same exact creatures to often. If they are you will not start in the same zone with them everytime. And it would take you ages to find them.
King of Town Feb 02, 2008, 04:00 AM I don't know if you guys heard, but I saw on a couple different sites that EA announced they would be releasing this game sometime before the holidays. Another vague date, and not only that another vague date that suggests another delay. The game better be even better than I could even hope it is, and have no bugs if they are going to push it back that far.
a space oddity Feb 02, 2008, 08:57 AM We should get a more precise date soon, probably this month, I'll keep you posted. :)
a space oddity Feb 08, 2008, 08:17 AM There's no date yet, but I do have a link to a demo given at NASA (http://blip.tv/file/652152).
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/SpaceOddity_2001/WWatNASA.jpg
King of Town Feb 08, 2008, 07:40 PM thanks for the link, looks like there has been a little progress made, or just showing of some things I don't think I've seen.
CEO Daedalus Feb 09, 2008, 07:06 PM .................................................. ...wow
I am very speechless :wow:
:clap:
Chris85 Feb 12, 2008, 01:10 PM EA just announced that Spore's release date is September 7th.
Link (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=17356)
Link 2 (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6185888.html?)
At least they gave us a date, but I'm kinda bummed we have to wait so much longer. :(
salty mud Feb 12, 2008, 01:20 PM EA just announced that Spore's release date is September 7th.
Link (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=17356)
At least they gave us a date, but I'm kinda bummed we have to wait so much longer. :(
Typical. Just as hardcore revision starts for my GCSE exams. Nice one EA. :rolleyes:
Chris85 Feb 12, 2008, 01:40 PM The September release date is for the PC, Mac, DS, and Mobile versions of the game. The Wii version doesn't have a release date yet. The game lands in Europe on the 5th of September, lucky bastards. :rolleyes:
warpstorm Feb 12, 2008, 02:05 PM ...this is Ea, they will ship it on that date whether it is ready or not...
leonel Feb 12, 2008, 03:02 PM EA just announced that Spore's release date is September 7th.
Link (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=17356)
Link 2 (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6185888.html?)
At least they gave us a date, but I'm kinda bummed we have to wait so much longer. :(
At least we have a date to look forward to instead of wondering when it'll come out. :D
salty mud Feb 12, 2008, 03:04 PM At least we have a date to look forward to instead of wondering when it'll come out. :D
Read this...
...this is Ea, they will ship it on that date whether it is ready or not...
EA are money-grabbing b-st-r-s and do not care about customer service - just the money. :shake:
leonel Feb 12, 2008, 03:45 PM EA are money-grabbing b-st-r-s and do not care about customer service - just the money. :shake:
And I'm not going to buy Spores because of this? From what I heard Will Wright himself said they've got it to the point where they're doing final testing and this was back a few months ago. Will Wright is not EA and he's not going to release a shoddy product.
Besides why should I listen to you? EA has released games that I really like! SimCity 4, Sims 2 (plus expacks up to Seasons) and something else I can't recall now.
Show me a company that isn't money grubbing and I'll show you a company in danger of folding.
salty mud Feb 12, 2008, 03:51 PM And I'm not going to buy Spores because of this? From what I heard Will Wright himself said they've got it to the point where they're doing final testing and this was back a few months ago. Will Wright is not EA and he's not going to release a shoddy product.
Besides why should I listen to you? EA has released games that I really like! SimCity 4, Sims 2 (plus expacks up to Seasons) and something else I can't recall now.
Show me a company that isn't money grubbing and I'll show you a company in danger of folding.
All right, calm down... Just a little joke. But some of EA's games are released too early. Just saying, you know...
warpstorm Feb 12, 2008, 05:41 PM Will Wright is not EA
Um, last I checked Will was working at EA-Sims.
CEO Daedalus Feb 12, 2008, 06:17 PM EA just announced that Spore's release date is September 7th.
Link (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=17356)
Link 2 (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6185888.html?)
At least they gave us a date, but I'm kinda bummed we have to wait so much longer. :(
well something constatly delayed must be good.
Sub Feb 12, 2008, 08:39 PM New interviews up.
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/levelup/archive/2008/02/12/exclusive-will-wright-on-why-spore-is-taking-so-long-and-much-more-part-i.aspx
http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/851/851665p1.html
Level up one is really good, IGN one is okay.
Rheinmetall Feb 12, 2008, 10:01 PM well something constatly delayed must be good.
Just like Daikatana.
leonel Feb 12, 2008, 10:54 PM Um, last I checked Will was working at EA-Sims.
Nono I mean Will is not your ordinary EA game developer that is rushed rushed by the powers that be. I figure EA exec's recognize Will's great talent and aren't rushing him as hard as the average game developer.
tuxedohamm Feb 12, 2008, 10:58 PM He actually mentions in that last interview that EA gave him the freedom to decide he needed more time to redo things. To "Just get it right."
King of Town Feb 13, 2008, 04:32 AM Being charged for online play? That's kinda weak considering you're not interacting with anyone.
PrinceScamp Feb 13, 2008, 04:49 AM Being charged for online play? That's kinda weak considering you're not interacting with anyone.
WHAT!? Where does it say that?
King of Town Feb 13, 2008, 05:06 AM on the second link
glcm1961 Feb 13, 2008, 01:17 PM Here's the first official preview of the game I've come across. The previewer liked what he saw. A lot. He actually played the entire game and he said it's basically finished apart from adding a few things and tweaking.
http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2008/02/13/spore_hands-on_preview/1
I'm wiping my calendar clean for the month of september. And october. And...
salty mud Feb 13, 2008, 02:07 PM Perhaps if it's nearly finished the release date could be pushed eariler? Or is that official?
glcm1961 Feb 13, 2008, 02:23 PM No, they won't move the release date up - that's set in stone. There will be a huge marketing push as EA has invested over $30 million into this game so far and they will want a firm release date to focus on.
warpstorm Feb 13, 2008, 03:01 PM It looks like EA will be releasing (selling?) a creature creator before the game is out. With it you can make your creature before you buy the game.
salty mud Feb 13, 2008, 03:15 PM It looks like EA will be releasing (selling?) a creature creator before the game is out. With it you can make your creature before you buy the game.
Where did you learn this?
PrinceScamp Feb 13, 2008, 03:29 PM Where did you learn this?
One of the interviews.
EDIT: I see where the mention it, well, that's lame. As well they were vague and didn't say what stuff would be extra money.
JtheJackal Feb 13, 2008, 04:46 PM People are so unbelievably negative.
You can pretty much assume you won't have to pay anything for a pre-release creature editor. Its probably this game's equivalent to a demo.
Chris85 Feb 13, 2008, 08:24 PM IGN: You're releasing tools with Spore?
Lucy Bradshaw: We're not releasing any underlying tools yet but what we will be doing is releasing a creature creator, a free trial version in advance of the game. That's going to be not only to the community, but that'll go wide.
Put away your pitchforks, the creature editor is going to be free. :)
Linky (http://pc.ign.com/articles/851/851665p2.html)
Chris85 Feb 13, 2008, 08:42 PM From the wired.com Will Wright interview, further confirming the free creature editor.
Speaking to Wired.com, Wright said that he doesn't mind if, for some people, this is all they do. "I might decide I want to just buy the trading card of my creature, or other things we might attach, and never buy the PC game," he said.
"So in some sense that free creature editor might become the hub of that franchise. The PC game is just one of the big spokes off that hub."
Maxis expects that the creature creator will be many players' entrance into the world of Spore. They're even going so far as to distribute this creator for free a few months before the game hits retail shelves.
While playing with the creature creator, users will be asked if they want to jump straight into the game with the creature they just made, Wright said. And when Spore debuts, Wright added, "at some point it's going to light up and say, 'Hey, Spore's available, do you want to buy it?'"
PrinceScamp Feb 14, 2008, 12:16 AM I was refferring to online content, not the creature editor, which I presumed would be free.
Fr8monkey Feb 14, 2008, 10:22 PM Take a peek at the sig. To add it to yours cut and paste the following:
http://www.hookedonspore.com/img/time/sporetime.png (http://www.hookedonspore.com)
Also a new video: http://money.cnn.com/video/ft/#/video/fortune/2008/02/13/fortune.spore.fortune
Phlegmak Feb 16, 2008, 11:41 AM Is it just me, or does the creature editor look very limited? It's basically just making creatures that have characteristics and senses that can be found in Earth mammals. What about animals that have no eyes and they use echolocation to find things? No legs and they slither? Antennae that are used as sensory appartuses? How about sentient animals that never leave the ocean? How about an animal that has no mouth, like a tapeworm? What about herbivorous sentient animals? Well, I guess there's only so much that can be done, and what they have now is actually impressive.
But don't get me started on how much it sucks to have those eyeballs on the microorganisms.
a space oddity Feb 16, 2008, 02:26 PM Limited is not really the term that fits Spore, IMVHO. :eek:
OK, the number of parts is, but don't let yourself be fooled by the rather simple creatures that get made in the demos where people use the editor for the first time. Have you seen this video (http://spore.strategyplanet.gamespy.com/hotcold/explorationblogs/SpaceOddity/spaceoddity.html?subaction=showfull&id=1202974506&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&)? It shows the incredible flexibility of the editors.
King of Town Feb 16, 2008, 02:37 PM It actually did look like you could create things with no legs at least. I like the stats, and that it sounded like you have to see the body parts before you can use them. It also looked like since the content like santa claus was updated periodically online that they could easily add things like echo location. Its seems like something that could be updated and changed endlessly.
Chieftess Feb 17, 2008, 07:06 AM on the second link
I don't see it. Unless you mean this -
Lucy Bradshaw: We're not releasing any underlying tools yet but what we will be doing is releasing a creature creator, a free trial version in advance of the game.
I'm pretty sure it'll be something like you can use the editor for 30 days, or you can make 10 creatures, but it'll still be in the game. I don't think it implies that you'll be paying a monthly fee.
Is it just me, or does the creature editor look very limited? It's basically just making creatures that have characteristics and senses that can be found in Earth mammals. What about animals that have no eyes and they use echolocation to find things? No legs and they slither? Antennae that are used as sensory appartuses? How about sentient animals that never leave the ocean? How about an animal that has no mouth, like a tapeworm? What about herbivorous sentient animals? Well, I guess there's only so much that can be done, and what they have now is actually impressive.
But don't get me started on how much it sucks to have those eyeballs on the microorganisms.
They probably don't want to do too much as not to give away all of the 'secrets' yet.
King of Town Feb 17, 2008, 09:17 AM Nope I meant this:
In addition to dropping hints about new platforms, Gibeau also hinted that Spore might not be entirely free of charge. He told analysts that the online mode of the game could be an "opportunity" for an "expanded digital revenue stream." He did not elaborate if said stream entailed microtransactions, in-game advertising, subscription fees, or any combination of the three.
Chieftess Feb 17, 2008, 10:57 AM Nope I meant this:
In addition to dropping hints about new platforms, Gibeau also hinted that Spore might not be entirely free of charge. He told analysts that the online mode of the game could be an "opportunity" for an "expanded digital revenue stream." He did not elaborate if said stream entailed microtransactions, in-game advertising, subscription fees, or any combination of the three.
Ah. At the very least, it could be something like a fee if you don't want to
see a page with ads or something. My best guess is maybe a fee where you can "buy" and "sell" creatures for added sporepoints or other features.
a space oddity Feb 18, 2008, 03:21 PM Or maybe it's just selling the opportunity to add ads in the form of content and named SporeCasts.
The bigger the audience, the bigger the value of Spore will be, so I would imagine they will be very careful not to implement thresholds for entering, such as payments would.
Chukchi Husky Feb 18, 2008, 03:25 PM I don't think I'll be able to get Spore unless I get a new computer.
a space oddity Feb 18, 2008, 04:08 PM Did you buy your computer in the last five years? That's the rule of thumb they're using. If you have, you should be able to play it. :)
salty mud Feb 18, 2008, 04:39 PM Did you buy your computer in the last five years? That's the rule of thumb they're using. If you have, you should be able to play it. :)
But does that mean if bought 5 years ago, it will play like a dead dog?
Chukchi Husky Feb 18, 2008, 04:40 PM Did you buy your computer in the last five years? That's the rule of thumb they're using. If you have, you should be able to play it. :)My computer is over five years old.
King of Town Feb 19, 2008, 05:09 AM Didn't they say if you can run sims 2 you shouild be able to run it just fine?
Chukchi Husky Feb 19, 2008, 09:50 AM I don't think my computer can run The Sims 2.
Chris85 Feb 19, 2008, 11:22 AM Sims 2, really? I was a bit worried I'd be on the borderline, but now I feel much better. :)
Abaddon Feb 19, 2008, 12:17 PM This guy is better at creating a media storm than Steve Jobs..
leonel Feb 19, 2008, 03:08 PM My computer can run Oblivion at maximum settings like a breeze. Even with mods that add more junk and higher rez textures to the game. The only thing I'm worried about is that the graphics won't be sharp enough! :D
CEO Daedalus Feb 21, 2008, 09:46 PM My mech is a 1.2 processor with 512MB ram, theres no hope for me is there?:)
Luckymoose Feb 21, 2008, 11:02 PM My mech is a 1.2 processor with 512MB ram, theres no hope for me is there?:)
Theres barely hope for my 3.2 ghz Pentium 4 1 GB RAM.
Abaddon Feb 22, 2008, 02:30 PM sPORE IS GOING not be on the Wii!!!!!!
They guys making it for the DS confirmed they are working on a Wii version!?!?!
Luckymoose Feb 22, 2008, 05:30 PM sPORE IS GOING not be on the Wii!!!!!!
They guys making it for the DS confirmed they are working on a Wii version!?!?!
It will be watered down I bet. If not then I have hope for my PC.
Fr8monkey Feb 23, 2008, 11:37 AM Cant wait for Spore? Here is a 'tide pool' flash game to get your fix until the real thing comes out:
http://intihuatani.usc.edu/cloud/flowing/core.html
King of Town Feb 24, 2008, 10:43 AM Cant wait for Spore? Here is a 'tide pool' flash game to get your fix until the real thing comes out:
http://intihuatani.usc.edu/cloud/flowing/core.html
It was kinda fun at first. I just had a problem with the fact that there are no reference points, and the levels are endlessly huge.
a space oddity Feb 28, 2008, 02:28 PM Check my blog (http://spore.strategyplanet.gamespy.com/hotcold/explorationblogs/SpaceOddity/spaceoddity.html?subaction=showfull&id=1204189631&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&) for cool new game footage.
Sub Feb 28, 2008, 07:00 PM It was kinda fun at first. I just had a problem with the fact that there are no reference points, and the levels are endlessly huge.
I would hope so. They hired the guy who created Flow to work on the Cell Stage.
King of Town Feb 29, 2008, 04:10 AM I would hope so. They hired the guy who created Flow to work on the Cell Stage.
I just wished if there were going to be nonreference points that it was somewhatb easier to find the things in those worlds. I mean I spent like 15 minutes looking for these three square things. It looks like spore is a bit more populated so I don't think we'll have that same problem. It was very cool though!
a space oddity May 01, 2008, 04:06 PM A free version of the Creature editor will be released on June 17th! It will be downloadable directly from www.spore.com.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/rauva/ScreenShoot/img_0843.jpg
King of Town May 02, 2008, 03:53 AM Sweet, it might actually be released on time this time.
Abaddon May 02, 2008, 04:17 AM I hate how "kiddyfied" the graphics look :(
leonel May 02, 2008, 09:48 AM Well maybe we won't notice it while we're playing. After all it already looked pretty kiddyfied in the beginning.
We'll probably have to wait a couple of years before it reflects the realism that SimCity 4 brought.
Harbringer May 02, 2008, 08:09 PM While i looks and sounds interesting, I don't really get what exactly youl be "doing" per se, waiting around or what?
Luckymoose May 02, 2008, 09:27 PM While i looks and sounds interesting, I don't really get what exactly youl be "doing" per se, waiting around or what?
Exploring the universe and destroying all life that isn't from your own planet?
Phlegmak May 03, 2008, 11:25 AM A free version of the Creature editor will be released on June 17th! It will be downloadable directly from www.spore.com (http://www.spore.com).
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/rauva/ScreenShoot/img_0843.jpg
You know, it bothers me mildly that creatures like that could ever survive to become sentient, or do anything, except be another creature's dinner. Having your eyes on tall stalks like that would be great food for flying animals. Those eyes are spectacular food for birds of prey. Swoops down, rips an eye off, and flies away.
This is just another reason why there is no evolution in Spore. It's 100% intelligent design. But we already had that conversation.
JtheJackal May 03, 2008, 01:20 PM You know, it bothers me mildly that creatures like that could ever survive to become sentient, or do anything, except be another creature's dinner. Having your eyes on tall stalks like that would be great food for flying animals. Those eyes are spectacular food for birds of prey. Swoops down, rips an eye off, and flies away.
This is just another reason why there is no evolution in Spore. It's 100% intelligent design. But we already had that conversation.
But you just pointed out how that that design is unintelligent
Phlegmak May 03, 2008, 01:29 PM But you just pointed out how that that design is unintelligent
"Intelligent Design" refers to some person doing the designing. It doesn't refer to the how smart the designer is.
JtheJackal May 03, 2008, 04:09 PM "Intelligent Design" refers to some person doing the designing. It doesn't refer to the how smart the designer is.
I wasn't being serious
King of Town May 04, 2008, 07:28 AM I think because you can't make birds in the game might be a case for why you don't have to evolve eyeballs that are contained in a structure.Not that I'm trying to rehash old arguments at all.
PrinceScamp May 07, 2008, 01:47 AM Bad news, they've come up with yet another shitty DRM scheme. It will check ONLINE every 10 days to maek sure you're legally purchased copy hasn't become a priated copy. If you have no internet access the game will become unplayable after 10 or 20 (I'm not sure) days until you reactivate it.
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52547
leonel May 10, 2008, 12:30 PM Good news! EA backed down from the DRM measures and from what I can tell only requires a one time online authentication.
http://kotaku.com/5008452/bioware-backs-down-from-draconian-mass-effect-authentication
http://www.megagames.com/news/html/pc/sporeandmasseffectditchperiodiconlineauthenticatio n.shtml
I can handle a one time deal. And we won't need to put in a disc every time to play the game after it's authenticated. :D
mythmonster2 May 10, 2008, 01:18 PM Hmm, that's cool. So you don't need a CD to play after it's been authenticated?
PrinceScamp May 10, 2008, 01:34 PM Hmm, that's cool. So you don't need a CD to play after it's been authenticated?
Yep. You will need to auth again for updates and new game content though.
leonel May 10, 2008, 02:11 PM Yep. You will need to auth again for updates and new game content though.
I can handle that. Much better than every 10 days.
Sub May 11, 2008, 05:54 PM When I go to play this game in ten or twenty years down the line, I'm afraid that I'll be unable to play the game due to the authentication servers being offline. Other than that, I don't care about the DRM
Genocidicbunny May 12, 2008, 02:54 AM Now Spore has a similar scheme to what Stardock has with Sins of a Solar empire. You have to log in to download patches, so essentially, every time you download one, it authenticates your cd-key.
Its certainly good news that we wont have the Every-10-Days DRM anymore, as that would have been a nightmare to anyone that takes a vacation or travels a lot (such as anyone in the armed forces).
PlutonianEmpire May 30, 2008, 10:06 PM is it available for pre-order yet? if so, where do i go to pre-order?
Genocidicbunny May 30, 2008, 10:55 PM Dont think it is. They're releasing the creature editor within a month though I think, so we may get more info then
a space oddity May 31, 2008, 10:11 AM They are releasing videos of all the stages:
Cell Stage (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WoP5thatpr4)
Creature Stage (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3MlMtv0kHQU&feature=related)
Tribal Stage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJANhpEKwVA)
And overview videos:
Spore overview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EZghUGBETc)
The Science of Spore (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NDRJH63fg7M&feature=related)
And images:
http://spaceoddityblog.planets.gamespy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/igntribal_1.jpg
http://spaceoddityblog.planets.gamespy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/boomspore3.jpg
http://spaceoddityblog.planets.gamespy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/sporeworthplaying2smaller.jpg
mythmonster2 May 31, 2008, 10:47 AM Personally, Spore was cooler before they started kiddyfieng it. I'm actually starting to doubt whether or not I'll buy it.
Genocidicbunny May 31, 2008, 12:23 PM I think it still has that novel look. Before everything looked like it was made out of clay, now it has a much more realistic look.
Lord_Iggy Jun 02, 2008, 10:40 PM I like the look, and things don't have to look cartoonish- I've seen some badass looking animals. :D Also, this appearance is probably going to reduce system requirements, being slightly more simplistic. I approve of that.
Chieftess Jun 05, 2008, 05:44 PM Personally, Spore was cooler before they started kiddyfieng it. I'm actually starting to doubt whether or not I'll buy it.
Hopefully there'll be a mod (provided that they can be made - should be able to if they provide graphics skins) to make it look like it did in GDC 2005. Even planets with a green ocean (ok, so that could be rich in iron or copper... but it's a stretch) along with pink mountains is just strange.
leonel Jun 06, 2008, 04:59 PM I don't think the cartoony look will be too off-putting. I figure that one could make realistic looking creatures if they put effort into it.
I'm going to make sapient crows like I've always dreamed. They're going to start out as dino's then feathery crows. :D
I'm also hoping that we'll be able to design the clothing for our species instead of getting a stock clothing set. I also hope we get to make a robotic species like how robots evolved and start their own civilization in SimEarth.
salty mud Jun 06, 2008, 05:03 PM Is it possible to change the structure of solar systems? I read somewhere that when a planet is blown up the solar system gains a new asteroid belt. I think it would be cool to remodel solar systems. :)
a space oddity Jun 07, 2008, 03:19 AM I'm also hoping that we'll be able to design the clothing for our species instead of getting a stock clothing set.
You'll probably be able to construct them from fixed parts, just like in all the other editors. What I've seen in the images and video's was different very time.
I also hope we get to make a robotic species like how robots evolved and start their own civilization in SimEarth.
Some textures are shiny, so I'm pretty sure you can make it look metallic. It'll still move organically though. The animation system (http://spaceoddityblog.planets.gamespy.com/?p=409) is revolutionary as it is. I'm sure that they didn't add to the complexity by adding mechanical movement.
Chris85 Jun 07, 2008, 11:39 AM Is it possible to change the structure of solar systems? I read somewhere that when a planet is blown up the solar system gains a new asteroid belt. I think it would be cool to remodel solar systems. :)
That sounds sweet. It would be cool if there was an upgrade on the spaceship that allowed you to alter the orbits of the planets, changing the environment in the process.
Genocidicbunny Jun 07, 2008, 06:49 PM I hope they just make the game moddable so you can change even parts of the engine. Then it would truly be a king of games. You get to simulate life, and you tell it how you simulate it.
a space oddity Jun 09, 2008, 09:11 AM Click the link in my sig for some new videos; a developer walks us through the Creature Creator. We can download the free version starting June 17th (that's next week! :D), from www.spore.com.
Catharsis Jun 09, 2008, 02:07 PM Click the link in my sig for some new videos; a developer walks us through the Creature Creator. We can download the free version starting June 17th (that's next week! :D), from www.spore.com.
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leonel Jun 09, 2008, 03:46 PM Some textures are shiny, so I'm pretty sure you can make it look metallic. It'll still move organically though. The animation system (http://spaceoddityblog.planets.gamespy.com/?p=409) is revolutionary as it is. I'm sure that they didn't add to the complexity by adding mechanical movement.
I read there was going to be a Borg like robotic race that you have to contend with near the end of the game so if anything, someone could possibly tweak around with the game to give the option of a robotic race.
But over all I'm greatly looking forward to recreating various species classes from SimEarth. I thought having sapient avians and dinosaurs were awesome then. :D I just need to figure out how to properly evolve them though. Is there a pretty little chart showing pictures of animals branching off earlier animals? I tried looking on Google Images but they were full of pictures mocking creationists/evolutionists.
Genocidicbunny Jun 09, 2008, 05:31 PM You could try looking at wiki for a specific animal and going up through the tree.
It would be hard to find a full tree for every species as that is simply huge.
EDIT: Here (http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/oec/images/tree.jpg). Probably the best I can offer.
tuxedohamm Jun 09, 2008, 08:08 PM The sporepedia is now up and running on the official site with creatures already being added by maxis employees.
leonel Jun 10, 2008, 12:17 AM The sporepedia is now up and running on the official site with creatures already being added by maxis employees.
You're a liar! Sporepedia just has a blank page as of the moment this post was made! :mad:
EDIT: Oh wait never mind found it at http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=ftr-ftrd :D
PrinceScamp Jun 10, 2008, 01:09 AM There was an interview with Will Wright on the radio today, except it started just as I started work so I didn't get to listen to it :(
Except you can listen to it in a podcast here, just skip a long to where it is (about 1/3rd into it).
http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/qpodcast_20080609_6174.mp3
King of Town Jun 10, 2008, 07:14 AM looks like you can fly, I wonder if you can swim
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Chieftess Jun 12, 2008, 09:38 PM looks like you can fly, I wonder if you can swim
I read on another forum that if you don't put legs on the creature, they "float". I guess that's close to swimming...
Lord_Iggy Jun 13, 2008, 01:47 PM 4 more days!
*shakes and breaks out into nervous laughter in excitement*
Chieftess Jun 14, 2008, 07:07 AM 4 more days!
*shakes and breaks out into nervous laughter in excitement*
The SPORE fansites have already received the creature creator - the number of creatures on the SPORE website just jumped from about 300 the other day to over 4,000 5,000 (must be just waking up... could be tons more added today) this morning. There's a lot of skinny-looking creatures...
Genocidicbunny Jun 14, 2008, 12:30 PM And ive got my hands on a copy: http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee134/stickciv/Sporecc2.png
leonel Jun 14, 2008, 02:04 PM And ive got my hands on a copy: http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee134/stickciv/Sporecc2.png
I will end you.
Genocidicbunny Jun 14, 2008, 02:13 PM Then I guess I shouldnt give you this link, should I?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=6924385&postcount=1063
salty mud Jun 14, 2008, 02:42 PM So... ermm.. Haha... HOW DID YOU GET IT? [pissed]
Genocidicbunny Jun 14, 2008, 02:49 PM Magic. xcl
Kan' Sharuminar Jun 14, 2008, 03:13 PM :lol: Got the trial version today. Totally reinvigorated my interest in the game, may even purchase the full creature editor when it comes out next week.
Genocidicbunny Jun 14, 2008, 03:15 PM Yeah. While the game looked fun before, actually trying it out was so much awesome. Like you, I might even get the full creature creator on tuesday.
mythmonster2 Jun 14, 2008, 04:10 PM So will I! I complained about the cartoonish style, but I managed to make some pretty awesome creatures.
Bigfoot3814 Jun 14, 2008, 05:14 PM Is the spore creature trial a free download? Anyone got a link?
mythmonster2 Jun 14, 2008, 05:39 PM I can't do that because technically the creature editor isn't supposed to be out yet, and I think that's against the forum rules. Hint: Google is your friend.
leonel Jun 14, 2008, 05:39 PM How'd you get it before the release date and without getting virii?
mythmonster2 Jun 14, 2008, 05:40 PM It was leaked out. (Hint: Google is your friend)
Chieftess Jun 14, 2008, 05:56 PM Is the spore creature trial a free download? Anyone got a link?
Just wait until the 17th and get it from the official SPORE website. The only links are to sites that offer pirated programs, which is against the forum rules.
PrinceScamp Jun 14, 2008, 05:59 PM I thought it was supposed to be released yesterday.
Bigfoot3814 Jun 14, 2008, 05:59 PM Well, if thats the case, forget it. I don't think I want any pirated programs. Keep posting pictures though guys!
Genocidicbunny Jun 14, 2008, 06:24 PM How'd you get it before the release date and without getting virii?
without virii? Mmh, that one is simple: I scanned the installer with an antivirus ;)
But yeah, it looks like the trial was leaked from some european gaming magazine. Apparently they had a cd included with the latest issue that had the demo on it.
Bigfoot3814 Jun 14, 2008, 06:49 PM I have a question about the actual Spore game.
I know in the tribal part you can choose to be peaceful or agressive, but can you do a combination of both? The videos I watched seem to say no.
I also think it's AWESOME that you can tame the wild animals and use them for livestock. Can you create mounts? That would be kick-ass.
It makes me sad that you can't make an aquatic creature, though. :(
PrinceScamp Jun 14, 2008, 06:49 PM Here's a question, is the priated version the paid one or the free one? Either way it would still be illegal since it hasn't been released legally I guess.
Bigfoot3814 Jun 14, 2008, 06:51 PM Here's a question, is the priated version the paid one or the free one? Either way it would still be illegal since it hasn't been released legally I guess.
According to the somebody from the spore thread, a European gaming magazine had a disc with a trial version packaged with thier latest issue, and that's what people are downloading. The paid version will have more features and be legal.
PrinceScamp Jun 14, 2008, 08:17 PM I would think you can do agressive/peaceful actions at the same time. IE Trading with an ally and fighting antoher tribe.
Bigfoot3814 Jun 14, 2008, 08:26 PM REQUEST:
Could someone who has the creature creator please try to make a giant frisbee monster for me and post a picture either here or in the screenshot thread?
Chieftess Jun 14, 2008, 08:39 PM REQUEST:
Could someone who has the creature creator please try to make a giant frisbee monster for me and post a picture either here or in the screenshot thread?
I'm going to create a very, very small dot for a creature. It's one of the made up creatures my little (then 6 years old) cousin drew when she was over at my house the other year. We were having fun drawing all kinds of creatures, of which I thought of SPORE. :) Too bad there's no ground-dwelling creatures (one of her creatures was a triangular rocket-propelled mole - don't ask).
Bigfoot3814 Jun 14, 2008, 08:55 PM I'm going to create a very, very small dot for a creature. It's one of the made up creatures my little (then 6 years old) cousin drew when she was over at my house the other year. We were having fun drawing all kinds of creatures, of which I thought of SPORE. :) Too bad there's no ground-dwelling creatures (one of her creatures was a triangular rocket-propelled mole - don't ask).
So is that "request accepted"?
I'm pretty sure there are at least low-flying creatures. I've seen some winged creations.
Chieftess Jun 14, 2008, 09:06 PM So is that "request accepted"?
I'm pretty sure there are at least low-flying creatures. I've seen some winged creations.
No, because I don't have it yet. :)
Genocidicbunny Jun 14, 2008, 09:33 PM First off, the trial does not have wings or anything like that. It has a few mouths, a few limbs, paws, hands and etc. It's very limited
Second: at least in the trial you cant make a dot. In my experimentation, the body needs at least 2 spine segments. Ergo, the game wont let you make anything smaller.
JtheJackal Jun 14, 2008, 09:40 PM It makes me sad that you can't make an aquatic creature, though. :(
I smell an expansion pack idea
Chieftess Jun 14, 2008, 10:06 PM First off, the trial does not have wings or anything like that. It has a few mouths, a few limbs, paws, hands and etc. It's very limited
Second: at least in the trial you cant make a dot. In my experimentation, the body needs at least 2 spine segments. Ergo, the game wont let you make anything smaller.
Rats! There goes my idea. :p
I guess it wants an upper and lower torso so that it can at least bounce.
Bigfoot3814 Jun 14, 2008, 10:57 PM First off, the trial does not have wings or anything like that. It has a few mouths, a few limbs, paws, hands and etc. It's very limited
Second: at least in the trial you cant make a dot. In my experimentation, the body needs at least 2 spine segments. Ergo, the game wont let you make anything smaller.
Well, I'm sure the complete creature creator and the game itself will have many more features. Does the spore game itself come with the creature creator, or is it by separate purchase?
Genocidicbunny Jun 14, 2008, 11:47 PM I have no idea. I expect that it will probably come with it, but if it doesnt, its a measely 10$ to download.
mythmonster2 Jun 15, 2008, 01:36 AM Its the free one, by the way. Hardly has anything.
Kan' Sharuminar Jun 15, 2008, 06:19 AM REQUEST:
Could someone who has the creature creator please try to make a giant frisbee monster for me and post a picture either here or in the screenshot thread?
I tried, but I can't make the body flat enough to look like a frisbee :(
First off, the trial does not have wings or anything like that.
One of the detail attachments is a pair of insect wings. They don't make it fly (just let them jump and glide better). Hopefully it means there's some more detailed wings in the full version.
Luckymoose Jun 15, 2008, 09:57 AM I have a copy downloading now from a friend. I am shaking because I never thought this day would come.
Bigfoot3814 Jun 15, 2008, 10:04 AM I tried, but I can't make the body flat enough to look like a frisbee :(
One of the detail attachments is a pair of insect wings. They don't make it fly (just let them jump and glide better). Hopefully it means there's some more detailed wings in the full version.
Aw, man. But thanks a whole lot for trying Kan! :goodjob:
As for the wings, apparently it will be possible to make a hovering or gliding creature, but not a flying one.
Bigfoot3814 Jun 15, 2008, 10:24 AM Still, it's more than what most people got!
Luckymoose Jun 15, 2008, 10:24 AM Guess what.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/luckymoose/spore.png
leonel Jun 15, 2008, 11:43 AM Thanks to your influence of breaking the law with downloading the Creature Creator early...
...I made these!
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc233/leonel1982/CRE_Lizadrus-067eeae7_ful.png
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc233/leonel1982/CRE_Lizadrus-067eeae8_ful.png
salty mud Jun 15, 2008, 12:18 PM Even with just 25% of the full versions features, there is still some amazing scope for the creatures you can create! I love the way they all move and act realistically as well. Can't wait for the full game! :thumbsup:
Luckymoose Jun 15, 2008, 12:28 PM I love this game and cannot wait to play it.
GVBN Jun 15, 2008, 12:56 PM Here's mine
http://i30.tinypic.com/t0i71z.jpg
Bigfoot3814 Jun 15, 2008, 03:40 PM All the creatures look great, but I'm a tad bit worried that most people will be interested in making big tough carnivores and we won't have any small herbivores to round out the food chain, or all the creatures will be too strong to tame in the tribal phase.
salty mud Jun 15, 2008, 04:10 PM Each persons individual game has a balance on carnivores and herbivores, so some pre-made herbivores will make it into your game to make it up. Don't worry, Maxis have got it all planned out. :)
Kan' Sharuminar Jun 15, 2008, 04:24 PM All the creatures look great, but I'm a tad bit worried that most people will be interested in making big tough carnivores and we won't have any small herbivores to round out the food chain, or all the creatures will be too strong to tame in the tribal phase.
The trial version only has carnivores available, which is why you'll be seeing so many at the moment. I actually created a couple of creatures as if they were herbivores, and I want one of my first species to be duck-like when I get the game.
Bigfoot3814 Jun 15, 2008, 05:12 PM Well, that's pretty good I guess.
As for giant frisbee monster, I'm pretty sure the final creature creator includes turtle shells, so maybe I can do something with that.
Sub Jun 15, 2008, 07:44 PM I'm loving the demo so far.
My first creature
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8784/creadjeania067f7e00fulxw1.png
The last one I created
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/388/crearayton067f7e01fulcx0.png
Bigfoot3814 Jun 15, 2008, 08:24 PM Perhaps if I make a hoop-shaped creature like Sub's I can make a giant frisbee monster. If I add internal spikes I bet I can create the illusion of a frisbee.
Sub Jun 15, 2008, 10:12 PM I don't understand why you want to create a giant frisbee monster. If you want to create essentially a giant disk, I don't think it's possible.
Bigfoot3814 Jun 16, 2008, 08:12 AM I don't understand why you want to create a giant frisbee monster. If you want to create essentially a giant disk, I don't think it's possible.
I don't really understand why either, I just do. I thought it would be cool. I imagined him still walking around, he would just look like a frisbee. That's all. Sort of like a round manta ray with legs. Or an upright variation like I said before.
I was just using my imagination! Isn't that what this game is really all about?
J-man Jun 16, 2008, 01:12 PM I love the fact that everybody can be creative and build there own ceatures, but some people.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPKvwd9vJZY
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-689194118682834081
I hope maxis has put some sort of blocking ability in to block some creatures.
mythmonster2 Jun 16, 2008, 01:13 PM I heard somewhere we can report inappropriate creatures, and Maxis could delete them or something along those lines.
Bigfoot3814 Jun 16, 2008, 01:17 PM I doubt they would do that, but there will be a function to block creatures from certian people, so you can prevent your game from having things like that. It works in reverse too. If you really like someone's creatures, you can have thiers appear more often in your worlds.
leonel Jun 16, 2008, 01:56 PM I love the fact that everybody can be creative and build there own ceatures, but some people.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPKvwd9vJZY
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-689194118682834081
I hope maxis has put some sort of blocking ability in to block some creatures.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL! :cry:
salty mud Jun 16, 2008, 01:56 PM Some people are really sad. It must have took hours to create that second one! :clap:
Genocidicbunny Jun 16, 2008, 02:22 PM Yeah, that second one actually looks like it required quite a bit of effort.
Lord_Iggy Jun 16, 2008, 03:48 PM So, are the downloads arriving when any place hits the 17th, or is it when Eastern Time hits the 17th? Hopefully the latter, as I'm in one of the very last timezones. :p
Chieftess Jun 16, 2008, 05:02 PM I heard somewhere we can report inappropriate creatures, and Maxis could delete them or something along those lines.
The only issue is, with possibly millions of creatures, it's going to be very time consuming screening all of them. (Even if we choose to manually download creatures).
Bigfoot3814 Jun 16, 2008, 05:44 PM I doubt they would do that, but there will be a function to block creatures from certian people, so you can prevent your game from having things like that. It works in reverse too. If you really like someone's creatures, you can have thiers appear more often in your worlds.
Guess nobody caught what I said.
Catharsis Jun 16, 2008, 05:47 PM You're not going to be able to block every single eleven-year-old boy who makes a penis monster, though. Unless I've seriously misunderstood this system, that feature will be all but useless.
Bigfoot3814 Jun 16, 2008, 05:55 PM You're not going to be able to block every single eleven-year-old boy who makes a penis monster, though. Unless I've seriously misunderstood this system, that feature will be all but useless.
That's true, but it's better than nothing. Besides, I think there will be more people making regular creatures anyway.
mythmonster2 Jun 16, 2008, 06:10 PM Or maybe not. The Internet is a place filled with bad people.
Bigfoot3814 Jun 16, 2008, 06:18 PM Or maybe not. The Internet is a place filled with bad people.
And here we all are! :lol:
I know the game comes with pre-made developer creatures, so maybe you can disable the user created ones somehow. But what fun would that be?
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