Who can suggest anything about religious civic of 20 century? I can invent nothing:confused:

You want Religous Civics for the 20th century? One popular suggestion is "Atheist State" which is the opposite of Free Religion, where all religions, with no exceptions, are looked down upon. You could also make this a whole new religion (though Atheism is not a religion.) Making a new religion would be much more interesting, but require more work too. And if you make a 2nd leader for China, his favorite civic would have to be this. China's State religion is Atheism.

In my opinion, make an Atheist State civic now and save adding it as a religion for later.

I think most western nations practice something close to the "Free Religion" civic. A few Muslim nations have implemented Sharia, "Theocracy".

As for a civic that looks down upon religion, this would be difficult because in the late game most all cities have multiple religions. Perhaps a "Totalitarian" civic, where the State is the religion(USSR, PRC): 1 unhappiness per religion, but the ability to build a building that compensates for much of this.

My thoughts...

If you wanna try something difficult with the whole Atheism thing, you might wanna try making it so that if you have athiesm as your civic, you slowly loose the religions in your cities. Like in the Soviet Union, they tried to exterminate religion. They even went so far as to make a 6-day week (instead of 7), where Sundays were eliminated!

Atheism could be seen as Theocracy with no state religion. In that senario ALL cities get +2exp and NO forgein religion can spread. The only problem is that you do not get any + or - in diplomacy for having no state religion. Maybe you should...

Maybe will do Atheism. I have already made a "State Ideology" though

Maybe will do Atheism.

You mean the "Atheist State" civic, or using it like a religion? (Like I said before Atheism is technically NOT a religion but it can be used like one) If you do make Atheism a religion, you'd be the first to do so.

I mean Atheist State :)

You want Religous Civics for the 20th century? One popular suggestion is "Atheist State" which is the opposite of Free Religion, where all religions, with no exceptions, are looked down upon.

That sounds like the popular opinion in most of Europe these days. I find it sad. :(

Rabbit_Alex
There's nothing sad in it, to my mind. There were mighty atheist states in the World (USSR and China) and it was really wide-spread.

I'm not saying that aethiest countries can't become powerful, I'm saying the decline of religion in Europe these days is having more negative effects than positive (in my opinion, you are free to have yours of course). But let's not start a religious debate shall we?

If you want to make an aethiest civic I think it has it's purpose because of it's role in history.

I mean Atheist State :)
Alright then, Good luck! :goodjob:

I mean Atheist State :)
No, you mean statism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statism).

But let's not start a religious debate shall we?

Didn't you just do that by calling it "sad"? That's like slapping someone in the face then saying, "Look, let's not fight."

Anyway...good luck with your mod AT.

That sounds like the popular opinion in most of Europe these days. I find it sad. :( Atheism is not concentrated in Europe, just about any secular country has some Atheists in it. I say this as an Atheist myself.

Atheism is not concentrated in Europe, just about any secular country has some Atheists in it. I say this as an Atheist myself.
The opinion is not that of Atheism, but that of all religion being looked down upon. I agree that this is sad, although I'm not sure European Atheism is necessarily a prime example of this. I can't imagine this being a majority opinion anywhere. The most I can see is religious indifference.

Somehow I knew you would show up eventually. :rolleyes:

And I did say SOME, not most!

Somehow I knew you would show up eventually. :rolleyes:
Oh, you're playing my part quite well. I'm here for a completely different purpose.

And I did say SOME, not most!
I don't see how what you said about that has anything to do with what I said, and even if it does I was agreeing with you (mostly).

I'm not saying that aethiest countries can't become powerful, I'm saying the decline of religion in Europe these days is having more negative effects than positive (in my opinion, you are free to have yours of course). But let's not start a religious debate shall we?

Well you certainly need my comment.

IMO strong believers in religion is the course (sp?) of many problems in the world. The list of religiously motivated violence and oppression is endless from dawn of civilisation to far into the future I'm afraid. The problem is that since most religions tell followers what to do and what not to do, people with strong belief in a religion tends to say: "I am or my religion is right. All others must conform to my view because that is the correct way. The world will be better when everyone follows my true belief"

People uses religion to justify use of violence to:
- strengthen their hold on power or to get power
- dominate their wife (or wives)
- control people of other faiths
- control areas of interest (oil, diamonds, water)
- terrorise others into submissive attitudes

I am myself a christian but I am also a critical thinker, which most fundamentalists don't like. Critical thinking lessens their power. But critical thinking is what gives humans a chance in an ever changing universe. It makes us realise that what we have done in the past 5 or 500 or 5000 years might not be the best way to go in the future.

I know that people also gets support, happyness, comfort and help because of religion, but if all religions disapeared now I frankly think the human race was better of.

That many people today doesn't need a fundamentalist belief in god(s), and therefor becomes atheists or "relaxed believers", is a good sign that religious fundamentalism is slooooowly losing terrain over the centuries. That is not sad. That is the human race growing up. All to slowly and full of setbacks, but we are growing up. When people realise that religion can still provide comfort and help without the need for absolutism, then we get a chance for a more peacefull world.

Best regards

Firebird