Announcing the first Epsilonian Diplomacy Championship!

This is a great game to play if you want to show off your strategy and diplomatic skills. To learn more about the game, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomacy_(game).

If you've never played the game, this would be a great time to start! Even beginners can do extremely well in Diplomacy. I remember my first game, I took over for a struggling England half-way through, and ended up winning!

Sign-up is now closed.

Current Player Roster
~Austria (General_W) - joshua.v.tucker AT gmail DOT com
~England (Peter Grimes) - pgrimesy AT yahoo DOT com Eliminated in Fall 1906
~France (gbno1fan) - gbno1fan AT gmail DOT com
~Germany (Kentharu) - kentharu AT hotmail DOT com Eliminated in Fall 1903
~Russia (Memphus) - matthew_wheatley AT hotmail DOT com
~Turkey (ItalianVoice) - italianvoice AT hotmail DOT com Eliminated in Fall 1904

Final Standings
1. Memphus (Russia)
2. General_W (Austria)
3. gbno1fan (France)
4. Peter Grimes (England)
5. Classical Hero and ItalianVoice (Turkey)
6. Kentharu (Germany)

Fall 1906 Moves

England falls as Russia dominates Europe! Austria and France surrender to save countless innocent lives. Memphus is crowned The Great Czar over all of Europe.

Congratulations, Memphus, on a game well-played. Congratulations also to our runner-up, General_W and to gbno1fan for surviving until the end.

Information is also available on the first page of this thread.

Notes about moves:
1. England was eliminated this turn.
2. The Austrian attack on Spain fails because the support was cut by the French fleet which was in West. Med.
3. The French Fleet in West. Med. was forced to retreat to North Africa (since England was technically occupying the Mid-Atlantic during the retreat phase).
4. The French Army in Holland retreated to Belgium.
5. Russia bounced out of Rumania due to the support from Serbia.
6. There will not be build orders since the game is over anyway. The Winter 1906 is the final map of the game.
7. I will be starting a thread later today for Epsilon Diplomacy Championship II.

Austria –
Army Munich MOVES to Munich – fails due to errors in writing
Army Tyrolia SUPPORTS Army Bohemia to Munich
Army Picardy MOVES to Paris
Army Marseilles MOVES to Spain
Army Piedmont MOVES to Marseilles
Army North Africa MOVES to Tunis
Army Serbia SUPPORTS Rumania
Army Rumania HOLDS -
Fleet Gulf of Lyon SUPPORTS Army Marseilles to Spain – cut by attack from West. Med.
Fleet Tunis MOVES to West Mediterranean
Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea SUPPORTS Fleet Tunis to West. Med.

England –
Fleet English Channel MOVE to Mid Atlantic
Fleet Mid-Atlantic DISBANDED

France –
F Wales MOVE to English Channel
F London SUPPORT F Wales to English Channel
F Belgium MOVE to Picardy
A Gascony MOVE to Brest
A Ruhr MOVE to Munich
A Holland MOVE to Ruhr
F West Mediterranean MOVE to Gulf of Lyon
F Spain SUPPORT F West Mediterranean to Gulf of Lyon
F West Mediterranean RETREAT to North Africa (since technically England occupied the Mid-Atlantic during the retreat phase)
A Holland RETREAT to Belgium

Russia –
Fleet Sevastopol Move Rumania
Fleet Black Sea Support Russian Fleet Sevastopol to Rumania
Fleet Aegian Sea Move Greece
Army Bulgaria Support Russian Fleet Aegian to Greece
Army Smyrna Move Constantinople
Army Munich Hold
Army Berlin Support Russian Army Munich
Army Kiel Move Holland
Fleet Helgoland Bight Support Russian Army Kiel to Holland
Army Denmark Move Kiel
Army Edinburgh Move Liverpool
Fleet North Sea Move Edinburgh
Fleet Norway Move North Sea

http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/fall1906moves.jpg



http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/winter1906.jpg


Austria: 11 - Budapest, Marseilles, Naples, Paris, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Trieste, Tunis, Venice, Vienna
England: 0
France: 5 - Belgium, Brest, London, Portugal, Spain
Germany: 0
Italy: 0
Russia: 18 - Ankara, Berlin, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Denmark, Edinburgh, Greece, Holland, Kiel, Liverpool, Moscow, Munich, Norway, Sevastopol, Smryna, St. Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw
Turkey: 0
Neutral 0

Please review these standard published Diplomacy rules. They can be found here: http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/rulebooks/2000AH4th.pdf

If we decide to change any rules, they will be listed here before the game begins. No rule changes may take place after the start of the game.

This is an example of the standard Diplomacy Map.
http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/PlainMap.gif

History of turns:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3858602&postcount=21
http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/Spring1901moves.jpg
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3883391&postcount=55http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/Fall1901.jpg

Sweet! Hopefully we can get people to join! :goodjob:

I assume we're just going to play with standard rules?

Are you going to set a turn limit? or play till someone wins?

I'd suggest something like 1 week between turns. Orders due by 9pm Saturday (Pacific Standard Time) and the moves executed sometime on Sunday, so play can begin again for real on Monday.

too quick?

I was thinking of just playing til someone wins. We would have to come up with a definition of "winning" though.

I plan on having standard rules, but will leave it open to minor changes if we feel the need. The most important thing is to have the rules defined at the start of the game.

I think 1 week between turns will be plenty.

Sign me up! Never played before, but that's not going to stop me ;)

I've added Peter to the list of players, and added a link to standard published rules. We can modify them if we feel the need to, and I'll soon add additional rules regarding emails and submitting turns.

If we get enough players, I would be willing to participate solely as the judge, without a nation of my own.

If we don't get enough players, you'll all have to trust me not to look at the orders until it is time, but that shouldn't be a problem.

im in im in im in im in im in im in im in im in!! can i be england btw btw btw please pretty pretty please PLKEASEEFJKASDFLSD BAM :p

Alright I'm in, but have no idea how to play, so take it easy on me :(

Is this similar to risk?

@Kentharu - I was planning on assigning nations at random. Do you only know how to play as England? ;)

@Memphus - You'll have a great time, and I guarantee you'll become addicted after the first couple of turns.

@Classical Hero - Yes and no. It is similar in that you control units and intend to take over the world (in this case, Europe). It is different in that there is NO luck involved. Risk involves rolling the dice to determine which side wins a battle. Here it all comes down to who has more support.

i can play as others, just england is MUCH BETTER nay it is the best nation to play wif.... in fact yea i can only play with England :p

I'll play. I'll need to learn fast.

Sweet - this looks like it could be a great game.
(Italy is a tough country to play – so if we only have 6 players, then it's really ok to play without Italy. Of course – 7 people is always best!)

@ all - don't worry, the rules look a little intimidating, but it's really pretty easy.

Maybe we should do 2 practice turns so everyone can get the hang of writing orders? It sucks to lose the chance to move a unit because you wrote your orders wrong.


Also – we should probably have gbno1fan all post our e-mail address in that first post so we can negotiate with each other that way.
Unless someone only wants messages via PM – which is ok, but should be noted.

For the record, I can be contacted at:
joshua.v.tucker AT gmail DOT com

I'm pgrimesy at yahoo.

I had some time at work today so I put together a little sample game. This will illustrate for newbies how the game goes along. Please pay special attention to how the orders are written. An order that is not properly written cannot be accepted.

I hope to be able to start this game on Monday. When I return from Indianapolis on Sunday, I will randomly assign nations out to all players, and post the first map.

Please post your email address here so it can be included in the first post of this thread for easy reference.

http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/sample/spring1901.jpg
Note about Opening map: Square Units are Armies. Rectangle Units are Fleets (Navies).


Orders:
Austria: A Vienna MOVES to Trieste, A Budapest MOVES to Galicia, F Trieste MOVES to Albania
England: A Liverpool MOVES to York, F London MOVES to North Sea, F Edinburgh MOVES to Norwegian Sea
France: A Paris MOVES to Burgundy, A Marseilles MOVES to Spain, F Brest MOVES to Picardy
Germany: A Berlin MOVES to Kiel, A Munich MOVES to Ruhr, F Kiel MOVES to Denmark
Italy: A Venice MOVES to Piedmont, A Rome MOVES to Venice, F Naples MOVES to Ionian Sea
Russia: A Moscow MOVES to Ukraine, A Warsaw MOVES to Galicia, F St. Petersburg MOVES to Gulf of Bothnia, F Sevastapol MOVES to Black Sea
Turkey: A Constantinople MOVES to Bulgaria, A Smryna MOVES to Constantinople, F Ankara MOVES to Black Sea
Notes on Orders: All orders succeed except for the fleets trying to move into the Black Sea, and the armies trying to move into Galicia. (When units of same strength try to occupy the same region, they bounce back, and do not move.)

New Map:
http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/sample/fall1901.jpg

Note about Spring 1901 map: When a unit moves into a territory, I will change the color of the territory. Notice, however, that on this turn the darker borders did not change. This means that no supply centers have changed hands, since a player must hold a supply center at the end of the fall turn in order to obtain it.


Orders:
Austria: A Trieste HOLD, A Budapest MOVE to Serbia, F Albania MOVE to Greece
England: A York MOVE to Norway, F North Sea CONVOY A York to Norway, F Norwegian Sea MOVE to Barents Sea
France: A Burgundy MOVE to Marseilles, A Spain MOVE to Portugal, F Picardy MOVE to Belgium
Germany: A Kiel MOVE to Holland, A Ruhr MOVE to Belgium, F Denmark HOLD
Italy: A Venice HOLD, A Piedmont MOVE to Marseilles, F Ionian Sea MOVE to Tunis
Russia: A Ukraine SUPPORT F Sevastopol to Rumania, A Warsaw MOVE to Galicia, F Gulf of Bothnia MOVE to Sweden, F Sevastopol to Rumania
Turkey: A Bulgaria MOVE to Serbia, A Constantinople MOVE to Bulgaria, F Ankara MOVE to Black Sea

Note about Orders: The units ordered to Belgium, Marseilles, and Serbia do not move due to lack of support. The move to Bulgaria fails because the army in Bulgaria fails to move out of the territory (only 1 unit can occupy a territory at a time).

New map:
http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/sample/spring1902.jpg

Note about Fall 1901 map: Notice on this map, Spain and Albania are neutral again. This is because the units moved out of the territories before the end of the Fall turn, causing them to revert to being neutral. Also notice that the borders have been changed to reflect the ending of 1901.

Austria, England, France, Italy, and Turkey all gained 1 supply center this year, so they can build 1 unit. Germany and Russia can build 2.
Austria: A – Vienna
England: F – Edinburgh
France: F – Marseilles
Germany: F – Kiel, A – Munich
Italy: F – Naples
Russia: A – St. Petersburg, A – Sevastopol
Turkey: A – Smryna

New map:
http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/sample/spring1902-post.jpg

Note for Build Orders Map: This map reflects the build orders that were issued. These units can now be moved for the Spring 1902 turn.

Orders:
Austria: A Trieste MOVE to Budapest, A Vienna MOVE to Budapest, A Budapest MOVE to Serbia, F Greece HOLD
England: A Norway MOVE to St. Petersburg, F North Sea MOVE to Norway, F Barents Sea SUPPORT A Norway to St. Petersburg, F Edinburgh MOVE to North Sea
France: A Burgundy SUPPORT F Picardy to Belgium, A Portugal MOVE to Spain, F Picardy MOVE to Belgium, F Marseilles HOLD
Germany: A Holland MOVE to Belgium, A Ruhr SUPPORT A Holland to Belgium, A Munich MOVE to Burgundy, F Denmark HOLD, F Kiel MOVE to Holland
Italy: A Venice HOLD, A Piedmont MOVE to Marseilles, F Tunis MOVE to West Mediterranean, F Naples MOVE to Tyrrhenian Sea
Russia: A Ukraine SUPPORT F Rumania, A Galicia MOVE to Budapest, A St. Petersburg MOVE to Norway, A Sevastopol SUPPORT F Rumania, F Sweden SUPPORT St. Petersburg to Norway, F Rumania HOLD
Turkey: A Bulgaria MOVE to Rumania, A Constantinople MOVE to Bulgaria, A Smryna MOVE to Armenia, F Black Sea SUPPORT Bulgaria to Rumania

Notes about Orders: The units on the English/Russian border in Norway & St. Petersburg fail to move. The units ordered to Budapest also fail. The Austrian Fleet in Greece could not support the move to Serbia since it cannot move inland itself. The Turkish attack on Rumania fails because Russia had 2 support units, compared to Turkey’s 1 support unit. The German attack on Burgundy from Munich cuts the support from Burgundy, causing France’s move to Belgium to fail.

New Map:
http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/sample/fall1902.jpg

Nice work Gbno1fan! :thumbsup:

Make sure you've read the rules before you read these examples - it'll make a lot more sense that way.
(Read/Download the rules PDF here) (http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/res.../2000AH4th.pdf)

After you've read the rules, and then read Gbno1fan's tutorial - feel free to ask any questions you have in this thread, and I'll try to help you while Gbno1fan is away.

sweet my email is kentharu @ hotmail.com

:sad: hmmm well after reading the rules and seeing this example.... i am more than ready to get pumped....:sad:

please don't let me ability in this game judge my performance as domestic affairs :lol:

oh yeah
memphus email : ==> matthew_wheatley@hotmail.com

Take Heart Memphus! This game really has more to do with your diplomatic skills than it does with moving armies... or rather, you'll quickly learn how to move armies... and from there, it's all diplomacy, subterfuge, and trying to keep all your lies straight! ;)

Experienced players often go down to defeat at the hands of an army of angry noobs.

And don’t worry – Diplomacy has very little in common with Civ… so we won’t hold anything against you! :lol:

Looking forward to playing with you! :salute:

What a complex game - yet it arises from such simple foundations!

I'm eager to try this. I'll reread the directions once more before posting questions.

Thanks, GB, for setting this up!

I have just finished assigning nations, and posting the first map. This information is listed in the first post of this thread, but I'll list it here again for your information.

~Austria - General_W
~England - Peter Grimes
~France - gbno1fan
~Germany - kentharu
~Italy - Neutral
~Russia - Memphus
~Turkey - Classical_hero

Current Turn Due: Sunday, April 2 at 06:00 GMT
This converts to:
US/Central: Sunday, April 2 at 00:00 (midnight, Saturday night)
US/Eastern: Sunday, April 2 at 01:00
US/Western: Saturday, April 1 at 22:00
Please PM your orders to gbno1fan by this time.

Current map:
http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/Spring1901.jpg

Supply Center Occupations:
Austria (3) - Budapest, Trieste, Vienna
England (3) - Edinburgh, Liverpool, London
France (3) - Brest, Marseilles, Paris
Germany (3) - Berlin, Kiel, Munich
Italy (3) - Naples, Rome, Venice
Russia (4) - Moscow, Sevastopol, St. Petersberg, Warsaw
Turkey (3) - Ankara, Constantinople, Smryna
Unoccupied (12) - Belgium, Bulgaria, Denmark, Greece, Holland, Norway, Portugal, Rumania, Serbia, Spain, Sweden, Tunis

Unit Locations:
Austria (3) - A Budapest, F Trieste, A Vienna
England (3) - F Edinburgh, F Liverpool, F London
France (3) - F Brest, A Marseilles, A Paris
Germany (3) - A Berlin, F Kiel, A Munich
Italy (3) - F Naples, A Rome, A Venice
Russia (4) - A Moscow, F Sevastopol, F St. Petersburg, A Warsaw
Turkey (3) - F Ankara, A Constantinople, A Smryna
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. May the best person win!

did you randomly assign those nations??

Yes, the nations were randomly assigned.

Austria ?!?

This should be interesting!! :lol:

Let the games begin!

:clap:

This should be fun to watch. :) Any chance you could use a darker color for the armies and fleets on the map?

I was hoping that each power's fleets and armies could be represented in the color of the power: If Russia is red, then russian armies and fleets may have a Red border; if Italy is orange, their units are bounded by Orange, etc...

Question of Game Mechanics:
Since Italy is Neutral, what happens to its supply centers? Is there a common variant we are playing, or will our map have fewer than 34 supply centers?

If we have fewer supply centers, how many will be required for a solo win (just so I know what to shoot for ;))

Please elaborate on what Italy being Neutral means for the map, as I have never played before, and therefore I know not if I am even asking the right questions! :)

Regarding colors: I have been playing around with photoshop on this map, and so far haven't been happy at all with what I've come up with for armies and navies. I intend to continue experimenting until I find something that works, and also listing current positions, and supply center holds when I post each new map.

EDIT: Okay, I was able to get it to look better. I've changed the map in the post, and added lists of occupied supply centers and current unit locations.

Italy is neutral. What does that mean?
According to the rulebook, when there are only 6 players, Italy is considered neutral - in a state of civil disorder. When a state is in civil disorder, the armies of the nation remain in place, but can be defeated by the same methods as other units. For example, the army in Venice can be defeated by moving an army in from Trieste, with support from the Adriatic Sea. The difference is that Italian units do not have the ability to retreat (as that would cause us to debate where to retreat to), and must be disbanded immediately if they are defeated.

As for the supply centers, they work just like any other supply centers. They just have units on them that must be knocked off before anyone can control them.

I'd like the Powers to post spoilers for the enjoyment and benefit of our Epsilonian friends.

I'll start with one, so no peeking!

testing, 1, 2, 3, testing.... is this thing on?


Okay. Britain here. We've been contacted by France with a Proposal for Alliance.

France (Gbno1fan) wants Britain (me) and Austria (General_W) to gang up on Germany (kentharu). This being my first game, I'm a little hesitant to agree outright. So I thought about it, and I came up with some conditions:
1. Britain annexes Norway and Portugal.
2. English Channel is no-man's land: neither I nor France may enter without permission
3. Britain has no claim to Low Countries. (this could be a big mistake, but I have to be fair.) In return, neither France nor Austria may build fleets in those production centers.
4. I will undertake to divert the German army towards Russia.

So, I also wrote a letter to Kentharu. He'd wanted to be Britain, so I asked him for some advice. I'll bring up Russia with him a bit later.

I also contacted Turkey (Classical_Hero). I know he's going out of town, but I want his cooperation against Russia. I'm really nervous about a Russian build-up in the north. If Turkey goes for Russia's squishy middle, while I appear to go to the north, this could have troubling effects on Russia. This has the added bonus of protecting Austria from Turkish aggression. I do plan on sending an army across the North Sea, but that's because I think the Swedes should be reunited with their Anglish kin ;)

The other reason I want Portugal is so that I can control the Mediterranean with Turkey. Turkey and I are not a threat to eachother, and I'd like to grab Tunisia (since there's no Italy). My Portuguese fleet will also allow me to support the French into Rome, and then Rome can support my fleet into Naples. Since I'll still be the only flotilla around (hopefully), I'll be able to grab Tunis comfortably.

It'll be really entertaining to see how wildly reality veers from these plans :)

are we allowed to look in that thingy?

are we allowed to look in that thingy?

I am assuming not by the:

peter grimesI'd like the Powers to post spoilers for the enjoyment and benefit of our Epsilonian friends.

I'll start with one, so no peeking!


However this brings me to a couple of conclusions:

1. I am not going to read it, until we eastablish if the entire game is going to do this
2. What an interesting tactic to divert opposition if this is using psycological tactics already ;)
3.Bulding on 1 and 2 would it not make more sense to just post the turns (as gbno1fan will do) as they happen? Our team mates can then guess what we are doing
4. This would allow for spoiler write ups at the end of the game to reveal strategy and tactics
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I am very suspicious about this game :confused: it seems to be very tricky and sneaky :crazyeye:

On a serepate note, once the game gets going are we allowed to use team members who are not in the game to relay messages and moderate things?

As an example
I ask lost_civantares to witness an agreement between russia and france, that way if it was to go sour, he scould speak up and verify that an agreement was made thus tarnishing the traitor for all to see ? :evil:
Or Conversly so for added layers of thickness, lie and say the other nation broke the treaty? :sad:

Peter – are you aware that most Diplomacy games encourage "cheating" ?!? :lol:

In my games with my friends, we've never allowed the more extreme forms (like adding units to the board when no one is looking, and double moving armies) – although some groups do allow/encourage that.
However, every group I've ever played with has always encouraged people to try to listen in on other conversations and general spying attempts.
(In can get pretty hilarious when you're all trying to play in one house)

Now, I personally won't read your spoiler, but I won't be posting one myself either!

I'll refer you to page 3 of the official rules…
[players] may try to overhear the conversations of others.

So anyway – you've been warned! :lol:


EDIT: X-post with Memphus... I think the best part of this game is how open-ended it is. Anything you want to do, you should be able to do. The rules expressly allow public announcements and the writing of formal public or private treaties. If you've got a good idea - go for it! Just seing what orders actually happen and the way people react to it should be entertainment enough for all non-players.

Remember - it's not personal... it's Diplomacy! ;)

Hmmmm... my idea for posting the spoilers periodically is so that lurkers may enjoy watching our machinations. I see General_W's point, that because reading spoilers is not expressly forbidden it must be assumed to be allowed.

I'll leave my spoiler be until we have a consensus. I just think it would be a shame for lurkers to not be able to have a 'game-wide' view of what's going on behind the scenes. After all, that's the beauty of lurking!

But if spoilers are fair game, then I have been warned ;)

please please dont post spoilers because if i see a spoiler i will open it immediately, i won't read the post first, ill read the spoiler ok, its the focal point of the post it's like putting a big red circle around something and saying DONT LOOK HERE! people will look, and i will look

Speaking of Cheating, how do we know that Gbno1fan won't read all of our orders before deciding on his own (French) orders?

What is the system that will be used to ensure the virginity of our movement notes?

Well - if anyone is really worried about this - then we should get a non-player to actually make the moves.

However, I don't think there is any provision in the rules for this kind of cheating, and I'll take gbno1fan's word on it that he won't do this.

Other kinds of cheating (like moving units around in-between turns) won't be possible with this kind of game format.

Speaking of Cheating, how do we know that Gbno1fan won't read all of our orders before deciding on his own (French) orders?

Ah. The central cheating issue I have seen in all games of Diplomacy. In this particular game (and in most), it will be essential for you all to trust me not to do so. The position of judge in an email game with fewer than 7 players is one of honor.

I will not read orders before making my own. It is understood that this sort of action is frowned upon by ALL *legitimate* diplomacy players, and it would hamper on my reputation for further games.

Also, after some discussions with other players, I feel the need to remind all that when it comes time to build units, you may only build units in territories with your "home" supply centers. This means that I will only be able to build units in Brest, Paris, and Marseilles, for the entire game. Note that if I gain more than 3 supply centers in one year, I can only build 3 units.

i trust you, thats not my prob at all just puting the spoilers are very irritating. i would the majority of people in this forum with this sort of thing. Perhaps we should make a separate thread for the spoilers? (or is that to much?)

Hopefully this won't ever be an issue...

But if gbno1fan dosn't recieve orders from a player (or if the orders are wrong and/or impossible) then how will we handle it?

Generally, the rule is you just lose your turn (or the unit with bad orders just loses it's turn).

I assume the same will be true here?
No matter what, we should all be clear on what will happen.

Gbno1fan?

I agree.

If you miswrite your orders, whichever order(s) is miswritten will be disregarded. The unit will be considered as a HOLD.

If you do not turn in your orders, you essentially lose your turn, and all of your units are considered as HOLD.

I've also been thinking about how everyone is going to turn in the orders. I think it would be best if they were PMed to me instead of email, since gmail always puts the first line of the email in the subject line in the inbox (don't want to accidentally see even a single move), and this way it is even less likely that I will accidentally open it.

Removed: Failed to read the first post, and was thinking of something else. :blush:

Bewarned: dont' read the spoilers if you are playing the game. They are for lurkers ;)

Breakthrough!

After having given up on contact with Germany, I finally got a message from him:
Hey England i guess your going to have fun in this game huh?! lol

I think you are the best for me to work wiht and we can be allies? best for us both!
I responded with a formal offer of alliance. There is no way I'm going to pass up a chance to counter the strength of an Austro-Turk alliance against Russia. My proposal gives me all of Scandanavia, but no supply centers south of Denmark. If allows Germany to maintain 1 fleet, and Britain is prevented from sending fleets east of Denmark. I think he'll take it, as I sent him a copy of the letter G_W forwarded me from C_H.

In other news, France, Russia, and Austria are all talking, which is good. But I still don't know who I can trust. C_H is clearly the dark horse here, and I'm hoping that Ken has more luch with him than I've had.

I'll post another update when there are more developments!

Once again, Peter, the spoilers could technically be read under the interpretation that the reader is trying to "overhear" conversation.

I advise all players not to post spoilers for this game. If you wish to inform other members who are not playing what is going on, it is best to do it through an instant messaging service or PM.

Spoilers are there for us to give out misinformation. It is part of the whole game.

I will post a spoiler tomorrow. You may look if you dare, but will the info be all truthful?

Although nothing official has been posted about the game going caput (see the waterhole) can someone i.e. gbno1fan please let me know that the game of democracy will continue? (even if we need to open a new thread somewhere else) if this happens could someone email/pm all the active players

:)

I mean russia really wants to at least make one move in this game :(

I can guarantee that the Diplomacy game will continue.

Even if I have to design my own forum on my website I'll make sure this game makes at least one move. :)

I suppose I will get in on the fun with posting spoilers for the "lurkers."


I have been holding discussions with Italy, trying to convince him that Austria will come a knocking soon, but to no avail. Italy is stubborn and believes that no one will ever attack them - the growing pressures in the region have yet to hit home for them. Italy informs me that they will not be moving any units this spring.

In other news, I have been able to speak with all nations except Germany. The lack of word coming out of Germany leads me to believe that he is not interested in being friends. My people have been warned to look out for any suspicious people consuming great amounts of beer and brats.

Outside of Germany, all nations seem to be expressing a friendly tone to the French people, a good sign. I am very pleased with how the diplomatic situation is going for France.

I don't really expect to see spoilers, especially if they may be propaganda!

Just hurry up and move some units. ;)

I hear Italy has a killer opening planned ;)

I know Russia is nervous :sad:

Is anyone interested in shortening the turn-cycle after this turn? I'm okay with a 72-hour cycle. Of course, if there's opposition (or it's too much for GB with his already heavy schedule), then I'll just be patient.

p.s. I'll be away for a night, a day, and another night. I'm going to PM orders now, just so there's no risk of an error. If all goes according to plan, I'll be checking back Sunday morning :)

Is anyone interested in shortening the turn-cycle after this turn?
We could attempt a shorter turn cycle, and I will see how it goes with my schedule. Worst case scenario, it would just end up with me taking longer than 24 hours to post the turn.

I'm going to PM orders now, just so there's no risk of an error.
Am I reading this that you would like me to review your orders and let you know if there is an error? At any rate, I will record my orders now, and if anyone would like me to review orders prior to the official deadline, I will do so without it affecting my orders.

I was letting you (who weren't online at the moment) know that I was about to PM. I'm confident they were properly entered.

In fact, my first instinct was to enter them in the 'standard' format :)

How are we going to deal with this part of the game???? What is to stop players from emailing to make sure thier retreats don't conflict (thus resulting in both teams loosing thier unit)
or is this the cheating part? :crazyeye:

By the way how long is this phase going to be? one day?
Finally what is the time going to be for creating new units? 2 days?... (are we allowed to talk to people for this?)

@Everyone - I have now turned in my moves to myself (I PMed them to me, to have a record of having "written" them down.

@Peter - Okay.

@Memphus - I am planning on informing by email anybody that has to retreat, then allowing them 2 (or would 1 be enough, do you think?) days to send me their retreat orders. I have always allowed people to discuss where they wish to retreat to with other players.

Usually it will not be possible for more than one player to retreat into a territory in a given turn. If it does happen, I would be inclined to disband both of the units. Any objections to this?

The first post now includes a list of the people who have turned in their orders.

Spring 1901 Moves, Beginning of Fall 1901


Information is also available on the first page of this thread.

Current Turn Due: Friday, April 7 at 06:00 GMT
This converts to:
US/Central: Friday, April 7 at 00:00 (midnight, Thursday night)
US/Eastern: Friday, April 7 at 01:00
US/Western: Thursday, April 6 at 22:00
Please PM your orders to gbno1fan by this time.

Notes about moves:
1. Germany turned in the move 42 minutes late. I accepted the moves because it was the first turn. Germany is hereby warned that the next time the moves are late, they will not be accepted.
2. Turkey did not use the standard format for turning in moves. Turkey, please review the way moves are written. Everybody is hereby warned that the next time the moves are not written properly, they will not be accepted. I only accepted Turkey's moves because it was the first turn.


Austria – A Budapest MOVE to Serbia
F Trieste MOVE to Adriatic Sea
A Vienna MOVE to Tyrolia

England – F Edinburgh MOVE to Norwegian Sea
A Liverpool MOVE to Edinburgh
F London MOVE to North Sea

France – F Brest MOVE to Mid-Atlantic
A Marseilles MOVE to Spain
A Paris MOVE to Burgundy

Germany – A Berlin MOVE to Kiel
F Kiel MOVE to Denmark
A Munich MOVE to Ruhr

Russia – A Moscow MOVE to Ukraine
F Sevastopol MOVE to Rumania
F St. Petersburg MOVE to Gulf of Bothnia
A Warsaw MOVE to Silesia

Turkey – F Ankara MOVE to Black Sea
A Constantinople MOVE to Bulgaria
A Smryna MOVE to Constantinople

http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/Fall1901moves.jpg



http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/Fall1901.jpg

Austria: F Adriatic Sea, A Serbia, A Tyrolia
England: A Edinburgh, F North Sea, F Norwegian Sea
France: A Burgundy, F Mid-Atlantic, A Spain
Germany: F Denmark, A Kiel, A Ruhr
Italy: F Naples, A Rome, A Venice
Russia: F Gulf of Bothnia, F Rumania, A Silesia, A Ukraine
Turkey: A Bulgaria, A Constaninople, F Black Sea

Austria: 4 - Budapest, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna
England: 3 - Edinburgh, Liverpool, London
France: 4 - Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Spain
Germany: 4 - Berlin, Denmark, Kiel, Munich
Italy: 3 - Naples, Rome, Venice
Russia: 5 - Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, St. Petersburg, Warsaw
Turkey: 4 - Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Smryna

Great Job gbno1fan :goodjob: , very easy to follow and see!!

I hope that didn't take you too long to compile all of those moves?

One side note , not that it is important but on the spoiler for unit locations, Italy is MIA, however I am sure everyone knows where they are

So how come Italy didn't move? Refused to turn in orders? :mischief:

oh dear, it seems everyone has it in for lil ol' me :p

One side note , not that it is important but on the spoiler for unit locations, Italy is MIA, however I am sure everyone knows where they are
I simply forgot to add the Italian units before uploading the image. No worries though. I'm sure GW hasn't forgotten where they are. Plus I made sure to put them in the unit locations spoiler. :)

oh dear, it seems everyone has it in for lil ol' me
That's what happens when you don't respond to anybody's emails all week long. ;) Don't worry though. There is still time for you to make friends. Send me a note and we can discuss options.

Would it be possible for some sort of adcanced timeline to be set?

I.E. sicne the fall term consists of more moves could we set the following deadlines?

After resolutions are completed by gbno1fan and posted

Retreat orders (if anyone gets attacked?? ) must be in by X:XX (I suggest Saturday night, or possibly Sunday.

Build Orders. After retreats are done Gvie another day for this? or is that rushing it?

So potentially
Retreat order by Midnight Saturday April 6th (U.S. Central)
Build orders by Midnight Sunday April 7th (U.S. Central)

please pm me, i hardly check my email and my block thingy is set to full as in anyone not on my list of people is put in junk

EDIT just checked my junk mail folder and did a lot of clicking (to much if you ask me)
i assume it is to late to ask Austria to back off?

@Memphus - I am inclined to go against setting a hard deadline for retreats right now, since it is highly unlikely there will even be any retreat orders this turn. Keep in mind that retreat orders only happen when a unit is forced out of position by an attack. In fact, this turn the only potential retreat would be a Russian retreat from Rumania following an attack from either Black Sea & Constantinople, Constantinople & Serbia, or Black Sea & Serbia. In that situation, the only position the Fleet in Rumania could retreat to would be Sevastopol, or the Black Sea (but only if Turkey vacates it and would likely move into Sevastopol if Turkey wishes to vacate the Black Sea). If it comes to that, I would probably just do the retreat myself (if there is only one possible place to retreat to). If there turns out to be more than one possible retreat orders, I will contact you and allow 24 hours for the retreat to be ordered.

@Kentharu - First, if you knew you wanted to be PMed, why did to give us your email? Second, if you add our emails to your list, the messages will not go directly to your junk mail. If we spam you, you can always take us off the list.

you asked for it... i gave it (or did i just give it??) lol either way the problem is solved

and what are these retreat orders you speak of?

@Memphus - I am inclined to go against setting a hard deadline for retreats right now, since it is highly unlikely there will even be any retreat orders this turn. Keep in mind that retreat orders only happen when a unit is forced out of position by an attack. In fact, this turn the only potential retreat would be a Russian retreat from Rumania following an attack from either Black Sea & Constantinople, Constantinople & Serbia, or Black Sea & Serbia. In that situation, the only position the Fleet in Rumania could retreat to would be Sevastopol, or the Black Sea (but only if Turkey vacates it and would likely move into Sevastopol if Turkey wishes to vacate the Black Sea). If it comes to that, I would probably just do the retreat myself (if there is only one possible place to retreat to). If there turns out to be more than one possible retreat orders, I will contact you and allow 24 hours for the retreat to be ordered.

Yeah for sure :crazyeye: , I definetly undertsand for this Turn, I was jsut mroe curious if some sort of precedent could be set so that in the future if RL become an issue, you knwo that on Satuday, Sunday or whateevr you need to get some set of 'orders' in
I.E. ideally I would like (but don't follow its just and idea) for the entire turn to take 1 week. So in the event of a fall term which includes a build, the time for orders would be shorter.

Cheers Memphus

@Kentharu - Do you mean you want us to email you now or do you still want us to PM?

@Memphus - I am really trying to find ways to speed up the game to find the right pace. If you notice, this turn is going to be due on Thursday night. This is because I work all day Friday and will be able to post the new map then. Otherwise I would have made it due on Wednesday night.

As far as setting a precedent, I think you can expect turns to settle around this schedule:
72-120 hours (hopefully much closer to 72) - Regular turn orders due
24 hours - Retreat orders due (if there are any)
24 hours - Build orders due (if there are any)

This would get each turn completed in a week or less.

@New Players - Are you all hooked yet? As always, if you are in need of advice, France is here to help.

PMS only please

Yeah, I'm pretty well hooked. I'm sure that when the map becomes more crowded, and there are chains of moves to untangle, I'll be posting questions. I read a pretty good introduction to the rules of moves posted on the Pouch website. The thing I really took away from it was that in case of a dispute, the advantage is always given to the defender.

@Memphus - I am really trying to find ways to speed up the game to find the right pace. If you notice, this turn is going to be due on Thursday night. This is because I work all day Friday and will be able to post the new map then. Otherwise I would have made it due on Wednesday night.

As far as setting a precedent, I think you can expect turns to settle around this schedule:
72-120 hours (hopefully much closer to 72) - Regular turn orders due
24 hours - Retreat orders due (if there are any)
24 hours - Build orders due (if there are any)

This would get each turn completed in a week or less.

@New Players - Are you all hooked yet? As always, if you are in need of advice, France is here to help.

That precedent is cool with me, I'll have to ask the mighty Tsar of Russia though...his inexperience my becoem a factor in being able to figure out moves that quickly ;)

As for new players getting hooked ? :eek: ...this game is :evil: I think about it all the time (kinda reminds me of [civ4], but i can send messages and look at the map at work :goodjob: ) I like it so much I am looking to buy hte actual board game version for some family 'fun' (highly political family very opinionated = GREAT game of democracy)

Memphus

Reminder: Turn orders are due in about 15-16 hours from this post. Mine have been PMed.

Orders PMed.

When playing face to face, or via regular mail, are the players' moves revealed to the group?

When playing face to face, or via regular mail, are the players' moves revealed to the group?

Never played via regular mail, but in my experience with in-person games, the moves are written down on a small piece of paper, folded up, and placed in a hat. Then they are read to all by the "judge," and units moved. It makes for a rather exciting moment when someone gets backstabbed and everyone is there to see reactions.

Reminder: Turn orders are due in about 15-16 hours from this post. Mine have been PMed.

I want to submit my turn orders by they arn't fully coordianted, some Nations are not responding to envoys, which makes me wonder :(

TURKEY PLEASE RESPOND

Too bad there, Memphus. Turkey responded to me yesterday :)

I guess he just likes English Tea better than Russian Vodka ;)

Then they are read to all by the "judge," and units moved. It makes for a rather exciting moment when someone gets backstabbed and everyone is there to see reactions.

I guess we'll have to post here in the forum to announce our surprise :)

I guess we'll have to post here in the forum to announce our surprise :)

We'll if Russian vodka isn't good enough.... :( I'm sure I'll be surprised with turn orders since I have no idea what is happening in the south.

All I know is with any RL dealings I've ever done it is hard to read someone when they don't do anything....

As for Turkey liking English Tea,Responding to England and not Russia makes me wonder :sad: What do Austria and Turkey have planned?

So let it be on the record that as of 12 hours before the turns were due Russia had sent two letters to Turkey with more than 72 hours notice prior to turn with no response.

Not only that but Russia has been tracking Turkish activity (I know classic_hero is Busy as he posted in the absence thread) Turkey has been online at 12 seperate occosions since the last envoy.

So although the Tsar Memphus believes in the great a good drink of vodka, aggression is not in his nature. Since Turkey has not responded to numerous peace offers, or movement coordination efforts, Southern Russian movements will have to hold.

However be farwarrened all other generals, dictators, prime ministers, kings, that this does not bode well for the outlook of Turkey as a responsible leader.

Not wanting to cooperate is understandable, Refusing to speak is insulting and rude.

orders in xcl

Austria's orders have been sent!

March my Armies!
Sail my Fleets!

For the Glory of Austria!

Austria's orders have been sent!

March my Armies!
Sail my Fleets!

For the Glory of Austria!

WHAT? :sad:

Why won't anyone answer me becfore making moves :(

That's fine Russia will wait until the deadline to submit, but until then shall drink vodka all by himself :cry:

@Austria, I understand my request came late, for that I appologize, no insult intended, I am sorry

6 HOURS UNTIL DEADLINE TURKEY WHERE ARE YOU?

45 Minutes to the deadline and no activity from turkey all day :confused:

I wonder if he was even able to submit moves? I doubt it, and he is running out of time.

No matter, Russia has patience until the deadline to submit :cool:

Turkey time is running out....:hammer:

Timestamp 18 min until orders due...Russia is getting sleepy almost tiem to submit and go to bed ;)

EditX2: instead of spamming, I'll just look at my edit time ;)
EditX3: well 5 min buffer is all im gonna allow.
EditX4: Russians moves in Today will be a fun day

30 minutes after deadline get your orders in mates

PMS only please
Are you a woman?

I thought the time was different and that I still had time. I was thinking six am his time. I thought it was 12 hours latter. Oh well, diplomacy will occur next turn.

EDIT. Emails are a much better method for me.

This Post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3897832&postcount=68) should have been enough to clear up any confusion over the time difference.

Britain will respond to you after we see what the map reveals.

Fall 1901 Moves, Beginning of Winter 1901 (Build Orders!)


Information is also available on the first page of this thread.

Current Build Orders Due: Saturday, April 8 at 14:00 GMT
This converts to:
US/Central: Saturday, April 8 at 08:00
US/Eastern: Saturday, April 8 at 09:00
US/Western: Saturday, April 8 at 06:00
Please PM your orders to gbno1fan by this time.

Build Orders
Austria - 2
England - 2
France - 2
Germany - 1
Russia - 4 :eek:
Turkey - 1

Notes about moves:
1. Everybody who turned in moves did a very nice job!
2. Since there was only one place Turkey could have retreated to out of Bulgaria, I have taken the liberty to retreat them to Greece.
3. We are now on build orders. Please submit your orders by the deadline posted above.

Example: Italy (if they could build) - Army Rome
That is all it takes. Just specify the unit type and the Home supply center. Also, if your home supply center has two coasts (RUSSIA), please be sure to specify which coast you are building on.


Austria – F Adriatic Sea SUPPORTS A Tyrolia to Venice
A Serbia SUPPORTS Russian F Rumania to Bulgaria
A Tyrolia MOVES to Venice

England – A Edinburgh MOVE to Holland
F North Sea CONVOY A Edinburgh to Holland
F Norwegian Sea MOVE to Norway

France – A Burgundy MOVE to Munich (bounce)
F Mid-Atlantic MOVE to Portugal
A Spain HOLD

Germany – A Kiel MOVE to Munich (bounce)
F Denmark MOVE to Holland (impossible – fails.)
A Ruhr MOVE to Belgium

Italy – Falls into civil disarray as the government fails to recognize an Austrian invasion. All the people riot and run for the mountains.

Russia – F Gulf of Bothnia MOVE to Sweden
F Rumania MOVE to Bulgaria (succeeds due to Austrian support)
A Silesia MOVE to Berlin
A Ukraine MOVE to Rumania

Turkey – No orders turned in this time.

http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/Fall1901moves2.jpg



http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/Winter1901.jpg

Austria: F Adriatic Sea, A Serbia, A Venice
England: A Holland, F North Sea, F Norway
France: A Burgundy, F Portugal, A Spain
Germany: A Belgium, F Denmark, A Kiel
Italy: F Naples, A Rome
Russia: A Berlin, F Bulgaria (NC), A Rumania, F Sweden
Turkey: F Black Sea, A Constaninople, A Greece

Austria: 5 - Budapest, Serbia, Trieste, Venice, Vienna
England: 5 - Edinburgh, Holland, Liverpool, London, Norway
France: 5 - Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain
Germany: 4 - Belgium, Denmark, Kiel, Munich
Italy: 2 - Naples, Rome
Russia: 8 - Berlin, Bulgaria, Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, St. Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw
Turkey: 4 - Ankara, Constantinople, Greece, Smryna
Neutral 1 - Tunis

This Post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3897832&postcount=68) should have been enough to clear up any confusion over the time difference.

Britain will respond to you after we see what the map reveals.
RL was a pain for me this turn so I was busy and I misread the schedule thinking I had more time than I actually did.

One thing I forgot to mention, the Fleet in Bulgaria is stationed on the North Coast, not the south coast. I didn't realize there were 2 coasts until after I had posted the map.

Congratulations, Russia, on executing an outstanding first year. You've gained an unheard of 4 supply centers in the first year! Never in my experience have I witnessed such an expansion. :thumbsup:

Oh, and Germany does not need to turn in any build orders. There is only one possible build (Army in Munich), so I'll just assume that's what he would do.

Never in my experience have I witnessed such an expansion. :thumbsup:

Maybe that's because it makes Russia a huge target in 1902? :mischief:

Maybe that's because it makes Russia a huge target in 1902?

That's exactly what it is. I've seen people respond negatively to just a 6-unit Russia in 1902. I can't wait to see what happens with an 8-unit Russia.

Build orders PMed...

Build orders PMed...

We're now only waiting on Russia and Austria.

Even though we're still a long way away from the deadline, if they get it in quickly I'll post the new map today and we can get started on 1902.

Austria - Build orders sent!

Russian build orders are in

You mean you're not trying to get bigger in this game? :sad: how come i seem to be the only one who doesn't understand the rules

Oh well Vodka on me!! :beer:

Winter 1901 Builds, Beginning of Spring 1902

Information is also available on the first page of this thread.

Current Turn Orders Due: Tuesday, April 11 at 06:00 GMT
This converts to:
US/Central: Tuesday, April 11 at 00:00 (midnight, Monday night)
US/Eastern: Tuesday, April 11 at 01:00
US/Western: Monday, April 10 at 22:00
Please PM your orders to gbno1fan by this time.

Notes about moves:
1. Build orders were done in record time.


Austria –
Army - Trieste
Army - Vienna

England –
Fleet - Edinburgh
Army - London

France –
Fleet - Brest
Army - Paris

Germany –
Army - Munich

Italy – The people have organized and formed a militia to defend Rome and Naples.

Russia –
Army - Moscow
Fleet - Sevastopol
Army - St. Petersburg
Army - Warsaw

Turkey –
Fleet - Smyrna




http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/Spring1902.jpg

Austria: F Adriatic Sea, A Serbia, A Trieste, A Vienna, A Venice
England: F Edinburgh, A Holland, A London, F North Sea, F Norway
France: F Brest, A Burgundy, A Paris, F Portugal, A Spain
Germany: A Belgium, F Denmark, A Kiel, A Munich
Italy: F Naples, A Rome
Russia: A Berlin, F Bulgaria (NC), A Moscow, A Rumania, F Sevastopol, A St. Petersburg, F Sweden, A Warsaw
Turkey: F Black Sea, A Constaninople, A Greece, F Smryna

Austria: 5 - Budapest, Serbia, Trieste, Venice, Vienna
England: 5 - Edinburgh, Holland, Liverpool, London, Norway
France: 5 - Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain
Germany: 4 - Belgium, Denmark, Kiel, Munich
Italy: 2 - Naples, Rome
Russia: 8 - Berlin, Bulgaria, Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, St. Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw
Turkey: 4 - Ankara, Constantinople, Greece, Smryna
Neutral 1 - Tunis

*sigh* Russia.... i trusted you

congrats for lying your way into germany, im dead russia wins

and its PM s :lol:

sending orders now

EDIT orders sent
consider the german embassy closed, unless it's an apology

*sigh* Russia.... i trusted you

congrats for laying your way into germany, im dead russia wins

and its PM s

sending orders now

EDIT orders sent
consider the german embassy closed, unless it's an apology

Giving up already, Kentharu?

I expected more from you. The game has just begun - even for you. I've seen games where a country was down to 1 unit, but still ended up winning. The tides turn more quickly than some realize.

You're in a good position - you played the last turn even better than I could imagine. I put together numerous scenarios that you could play, and you chose the only one I didn't think of - and still managed to get a build.

All you need is one of us (us being me, England, and Russia) to join your cause. Once you get one you can focus on defending your land.

The game has just begun - even for you.
Indeed.

I played a game of diplomacy last weekend with some friends (this game put me back in the mood!) I drew germany and got stabbed in the back by a combined England, France, Austria and Russia in Fall 1901. :sad:

I came back to claim a tie for second place.
So the game is far from over Ken!

i edit alot lol, but im not going anywhere, im just kinda pissed cause russia said he would help me and attack england and austria instead, but oh well...

but whats the point of asking for help, im not about to trust you... perhaps france he hasn't really done anything to me (tried, but no) but hey... you never know, maybe ill turn into god and do that whole fire and brim stone :p it beats artillery

germany embassy still closed

germany embassy still closed

I was going to send a diplomat over to talk, but if you're still closed, why waste the funds on transportation?

If you want to talk, the French embassy is always open.

*sigh* Russia.... i trusted you

congrats for lying your way into germany, im dead russia wins


A sincere appology has been sent from Russia :sad: I am sorry you percieve my move into Berlin as a lie.

My event logs tell me that there a peace offer asking Russia not to attack Berlin.
Russia complied and simply moved there, as the turn orders show. For this I am sorry, I am still trying to figure out how to my my pieces in this game, confusion is bound to happen :confused:

Sincerely
The Tsar

I played a game of diplomacy last weekend with some friends (this game put me back in the mood!) I drew germany and got stabbed in the back by a combined England, France, Austria and Russia in Fall 1901. :sad:


Ahh the experince that bleeds out of Austria is frightening, We still have until the of 02 for our border agreement correct?

My event logs tell me that there a peace offer asking Russia not to attack Berlin.
Russia complied and simply moved there,:


are you insane, that doesn't even remotely make sense

EDIT edited out, just so you know, i hate lairs

Insane no, Still learning how to play the game yes,

Anyways no matter I can see where this headed :(

Russia Tried to branch out, Germany came out swinging, oh Well Maybe France, England or Austria will back you up. :)

thats how you learn right? oh well, no hard feelings mate, lying or no lying :p

British Embassy is officially Open, and recognizes all Powers.

England will not close the door on any opportunity, no matter how remote.

If Germany continues with schizophrenic PMs to the British Embassy, the current detente may come to an end.

It doesn't take a powerful nation to boast, swagger, and rage; but it takes the strongest leader to apologize for misspeaking.

there is a difference between a powerful nation and a strong leader

The Turkey Embassy is open. There were just some technical problems last turn that prevented any orders getting out to my troops and also to any diplomats from the other countries. We have been working on getting them fixed and now they are open again. I will fire the person who accidently cut the wrong cable. ;)

Winter 1901 Builds, Beginning of Spring 1902

Information is also available on the first page of this thread.

Current Turn Orders Due: Tuesday, April 11 at 06:00 GMT
This converts to:
US/Central: Tuesday, April 11 at 00:00 (midnight, Monday night)
US/Eastern: Tuesday, April 11 at 01:00
US/Western: Monday, April 10 at 22:00
Please PM your orders to gbno1fan by this time.


This will 2 pm Tuesday my time will means I must have them in by Monday night my time then. Reminder.

What is the purpose of Italy now that they have an army and a fleet?

Italy has always been neutral. The army and fleet have always been stationed in the territories (I forgot to post them on the map last turn, but had it listed in the unit locations).

The purpose of keeping the units there is to discourage Austria and France from having an easy target in Italy. Instead the nations have to allocate enough troops to defeat the Italian units out of their supply centers.

What is the purpose of Italy now that they have an army and a fleet?

I personally am expecting Italy is simply sitting and observing, and they are poised to strick any turn now.

Most recent reply:


Unfortunately, we are busy making boots at the moment, moving our fleet and army will have to come after the tower straightens out

:lol: That is very good memphus.

@ GB. Thanks for that. I thought they were unoccuied since they are not part of the game, but they are there with somewhat of a purpose.

Hey everyone - I got really sick a couple days ago and haven't been able to do much of anything. :sad:

I'm just now feeling better and I am planning on getting all caught up on this game tomorrow.

So: To anyone that has sent me an e-mail or PM... I'm not ignoring you!
I hope to get back to you asap.
Sorry for the delay!

For me it sucks being on a different timezone compared to everyone else. I half way around the world so pleas bear that in mind when discussing with me. I am the only one that is not in the North American region.

Orders Pmed.

British troops march on, liberating the masses from Tyranny!

Russian Orders.....:cringe:

Not done yet, too much vodka :dubious: :xmascheers:

Awaiting Turkish and Italian replies...I am curious who will get thier move in first this time :rolleyes:

I am awake now. It really sucks being half way around the world compared to the rest of you guys and this make diplo much trickier.

I have PMed my moves to the Host.

Alright the Russian Moves are in: After a Great chat with Turkey It has been decided that


Fleet St.Petersburg HOLD :beer:
Army Warsaw HOLD :beer:
Army Berlin HOLD :beer:
Army Rumania HOLD :beer:
Fleet Sweden HOLD :beer:
Fleet Bulgaria HOLD :beer:
Fleet Sevastopol HOLD :beer:


Army Moscow :help: :hmm: :dubious: :aargh: :suicide:
Why did everyone HOLD ????


Please Don't Look until After Midnight
Thank You I know I can trust Everyone

so where is that update?

French orders are in. Sorry I've been quiet the last few days - been busy with school stuff.

Update and emails to everyone will come tomorrow morning when I'm at work.

Still waiting on General W's orders.

Wait! What day is it?!?

Man – I lost like 4 days to my flu… I’m all off.

Orders sent.
Sorry for being last minute.

I lost track, too General_W. I thought I would have to get the orders in by this evening, but I was wrong. Luckily the British High Command had already formulated some manouevers :)

Spring 1902 Moves, Beginning of Fall 1902

Information is also available on the first page of this thread.

NOTICE: The turn deadline has been moved up by popular demand.

Current Turn Orders Due: Friday, April 14 at 06:00 GMT
This converts to:
US/Central: Friday, April 14 at 00:00 (midnight, Thursday night)
US/Eastern: Friday, April 14 at 01:00
US/Western: Thursday, April 13 at 22:00
Please PM your orders to gbno1fan by this time.

Notes about moves:
1. I have processed a retreat order for Germany, and another for Russia because there was only one place the units could retreat to. However, Turkey needs to send me his retreat order before I can process it. (Will send him an email and a PM shortly). Turkey has now sent in the retreat order, and it has been processed.


Austria –
A Serbia SUPPORT Russian Fleet holding in Bulgaria
A Trieste MOVES to Tyrolia
A Venice MOVES to Apulia
F Adriatic Sea MOVES to Ionian Sea
A Vienna MOVES to Bohemia

England –
Army London MOVE to Belgium
Fleet North Sea CONVOY army London to Belgium
Fleet Norway MOVE to Skagerrak
Fleet Edinburg MOVE to Norwegian Sea
Army Holland MOVE to Kiel

France –
F Brest MOVE to Picardy,
A Burgundy SUPPORT English A London to Belgium,
A Paris SUPPORT F Brest to Picardy,
A Spain MOVE to Gascony,
F Portugal MOVE to Mid-Atlantic

Germany –
A Kiel MOVE to Berlin
A Munich SUPPORT A Kiel to Berlin
A Belgium HOLD
F Denmark MOVE to Kiel
A Belgium RETREAT to Ruhr (processed by gbno1fan)

Italy – The people have organized are very discouraged by the Austrian unit movements. Some have begun to sing the Austrian national anthem, and pledge allegiance to the "Great General W."

Russia –
Army Berlin HOLD
Fleet Sweden SUPPORT British Fleet Move to Skagerrak
Army St.Petersburg HOLD
Army Warsaw MOVE to Silesia
Army Moscow MOVE Warsaw
Fleet Bulgaria MOVE Black Sea
Fleet Sevastopol SUPPORT Russian Fleet Move to Black Sea
Army Rumania MOVE Bulgaria
Army Berlin RETREAT to Prussia (processed by gbno1fan)

Turkey –
A Greece MOVE Serbia
F Black Sea MOVE Aegian Sea (fails because you have to go through Constantinople)
A Constantinople HOLD
F Smyrna MOVE East Mediteranian
F Black Sea RETREAT to Rumania

http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/Spring1902moves.jpg



http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/Fall1902.jpg

Austria: A Apulia, A Bohemia, F Ionian Sea, A Serbia, A Tyrolia
England: A Belgium, A Holland, F North Sea, F Norwegian Sea, F Skaggerak
France: A Burgundy, A Gascony, A Paris, F Picardy, F Mid-Atlantic
Germany: A Berlin, F Denmark, A Munich, A Ruhr
Italy: F Naples, A Rome
Russia: F Black Sea, A Bulgaria, A Prussia, F Sevastopol, A Silesia, A St. Petersburg, F Sweden, A Warsaw
Turkey: A Constaninople, F Eastern Mediterranean, A Greece, F Rumania

Austria: 5 - Budapest, Serbia, Trieste, Venice, Vienna
England: 6 - Belgium, Edinburgh, Holland, Liverpool, London, Norway
France: 5 - Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain
Germany: 4 - Berlin, Denmark, Kiel, Munich
Italy: 2 - Naples, Rome
Russia: 6 - Bulgaria, Moscow, Sevastopol, St. Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw
Turkey: 5 - Ankara, Constantinople, Greece, Rumania, Smryna
Neutral 1 - Tunis

Turkey has now submitted his retreat order and it has been processed.

I have been reminded that Turkey cannot retreat to Rumania since the attack came from that province.

I am now waiting for Turkey to choose a different retreat location.

I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Didn't the attack come from Bulgaria?

Didn't the attack come from Bulgaria?


:blush: Yes...will send emails out notifying Memphus and Classical Hero that the current retreat order will stand.

Thank you, DaveMcW for pointing that out. Just curious - are you interested in being a replacement if anybody decides to drop out?

:mad: :mad: Oops Sorry everyone I screwed up :(

Thanks for pointing that out DaveMcW

Personally I think he should take over Italy ;)

Right now, I really can't commit the time and emotional energy to play a good game. :( It's fun to watch though. :)

well this sucks :( im completely and totaly surrounded

There has been a request to complete this turn before the long weekend.

Is there anyone who would be against changing the turn deadline to Thursday night instead of next Monday? I know General_W has a heavy work load this week (due to tax day being Monday).

Russian orders are prepared and can be sent whenever required

Hopefully the Insobordiantion will be taken care of this turn and there will be less drinking and more orders followed

Thursday night will probably work for me.
Cuts things a little close... but I think it's doable.

Let me know!
:salute:

Britain is prepared for the earlier deadline... Unless Germany has an offer I can't refuse?

Britain is prepared for the earlier deadline... Unless Germany has an offer I can't refuse?

And what would that be? :rolleyes:

Okay, unless Kentharu complains in the next 12 hours or so, consider the deadline changed.

I'll update the posts that say the deadline now.

While I agree with the deadline change - and we should stick to it - if Germany and Turkey don't make the deadline, I think we should give them the benifit of the doubt and let them take till the original deadline.

Hopefully a non-issue, but I'd hate for anyone to have bad feelings about the way this game was played over a mis-communication about the turn deadline.

The High Command has issued orders, in sealed envelopes. These orders accurately reflect the state of affairs for the Fall of '02, contingent upon a Thrusday deadline.

Should that deadline change, Britain may request the opportunity to alter the orders. That request will be posted in this thread, publicly.

Good luck, to all of us.

I certainly agree that we should give Kentharu the benefit of the doubt.

Fortunately, Turkey has already turned in his orders.

doing orders now

sent them... a while ago but forgot to say :lol: silly me SILLY ME *dances on his head*

Fortunately, Turkey has already turned in his orders.

......bzzzzzt Begin transmission

Russian Intelligence has reported the following on Turkey's Moves:

Fleet East Mediterranaen MOVES Aegian Sea

Fleet Rumania
Army Greece
Army Constantinople

Gang up and and Attack Bulgaria!!! :( Oh no look out Russia Here IT comes :cry:

As for the North the is quite a Rumour about the Spring of 03...Not sure Who is alinging where,

But this is known for sure:

France, Austria, England and Russia can't be friends forever, :sad:

Spring of 03 will see any of the following combinations

1. England vs. France + Austria
2. France vs. England + Austria
3. Austria vs. France + England

However NEVER FEAR RUSSIA IS HERE TO HELP THE UNDERDOG!!! :lol:
(or join forces with the most lucrative offer)

......bzzzzzt end transmission


psssssssttttt: sir what if everyone goes agaisn't you?
Damit Soldier SHUT UP

I will have to drop out of this because I just do not have the time for this, hence this is why I have not been doing enough Diplomacy to reall be part of this.

It seems we are in need of a new player.

Until a replacement is found for Turkey, the country is hereby in civil disorder. The units will remain in place (unless dislodged, of course). Basically, Turkey will be acting just like Italy has for this game.

Will the orders Turkey submitted for the Fall '02 be honored?

It seems they should be, as he submitted the orders before announcing his withdrawl.

:agree:

I plan on processing the Sultan's final orders.

Russian Moves are in after a little bit of confusion on how to write orders

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( Still learning :(

Sorry everyone affected

Tsar

Austrian orders are now in!


---------------------------

@ Memphus: At least the Monarch of Austria has nothing left to learn about this game! HE knows every single rule by heart! ;)


:old: The Monarch of Austria is a fool! And has no clothes!


:king: Silence peasant! I paid handsomely for these clothes!

:lol: you guys!! what a laugh what a laugh, i say no matter what we must have a second game of Diplomacy!!

I have turned in the French moves.

So they are all in, and after looking at them, they all are accepted. You'll have to wait until morning to see the map though. However, the Turkish Sultan managed to achieve one unexpected task prior to his resignation.

you guys!! what a laugh what a laugh, i say no matter what we must have a second game of Diplomacy!!

I plan on continuing the Diplomacy Championships until interest dies down - though I seriously doubt that will ever occur.

You had me at "hello".... :vomit:

I'm hooked thoroughly. I will definitely play another round (after I win this one ;))

You had me at "hello".... :vomit:

I'm hooked thoroughly. I will definitely play another round (after I win this one ;))

The question ultimately becomes what will end up being more fun? Interteam Diplomacy? or the Demogame which should eb starting right away.

I for one know that when England does indeed win, there will be no hard feelings :mischief:, we just need to remeber that what happens in the game stays in the game and we can't let it affect our true team goal:

Winning the MTDG!!!!!!!!

Oh great Tsar?
Yes Soldier
Are we not trying to conquer the world?
DAMNIT SOLDIER SHUT UP, I RUN THIS PLACE

:lol: you guys!! what a laugh what a laugh, i say no matter what we must have a second game of Diplomacy!!
Thanks for being such a good sport and taking this in stride Ken!

I know it's not as much fun to get clobbered... but it's always someone.

Heck - for all I know, it's me next on the "kill list."

This game is indeed fun!

It'll be even more fun to work togeather to kill our enemies in Civ4!! :evil:

Heck - for all I know, it's me next on the "kill list."


:mischief: Although I have a feeling it may be Turkey or Italy.... :rolleyes:




Tsar!!
What now Soldier?
What about that envoy in the mail from the French and English?
....Soldier
Yes Tsar?
:sniper:
Well now no one else will know about that will they? :evil:

The map is almost done, but I am awaiting an urgent reply from Russia with his retreat order - the only one I couldn't process automatically.

Is Russia allowed to see the state of the map overall before making the Retreat Order?

The Tsar can not figure out how he lost a battle anywhere :cry:

Yeah, Tzar, we really feel for you. It must be really tough to keep track of all those armies ;)

I have emailed the latest moves map to Russia.

Well well well....It seems my Soldiers have informed me that there was one Move Turkey could have made to monkey Wrench Russia's plans.

Now, How could that of happened by a player who was barely playing the game?

Would he have sat down to figure out all of the possibilities, I think not?

The question becomes which Leader has come up with all the scenarios for everyone thus far? Who figures out all the moves and then the best course of action....

Turkey had inside information, Russia will not forget

@Austria: Please forgive me, I am sorry

@Austria: Please forgive me, I am sorry
That sounds ominous. :twitch:

Fall 1902 Moves, Beginning of Winter 1902 (Build Orders!)


Information is also available on the first page of this thread.

Current Build Orders Due: Saturday, April 15 at 14:00 GMT
This converts to:
US/Central: Saturday, April 15 at 08:00
US/Eastern: Saturday, April 15 at 09:00
US/Western: Saturday, April 15 at 06:00
Please PM your orders to gbno1fan by this time.

Build Orders
Austria - 1
England - 1
France - 1
Germany - DISBAND 1
Russia - NO CHANGE
Turkey - NO CHANGE

Notes about moves:
1. Nothing special to note this time.

Example: Italy (if they could build) - Army Rome
That is all it takes. Just specify the unit type and the Home supply center. Also, if your home supply center has two coasts (RUSSIA), please be sure to specify which coast you are building on.


Austria – A Apulia HOLD
A Bohemia MOVE to Munich
F Ionian Sea SUPPORT A Serbia to Greece
A Serbia MOVE to Greece
A Tyrolia SUPPORT A Bohemia to Munich

England – A Belgium MOVE to Ruhr
A Holland SUPPORT A Belgium to Ruhr
F North Sea MOVE to H. Bight
F Norwegian Sea MOVE to Norway
F Skagerrak MOVE to Denmark

France –A Burgundy MOVE to Belgium
A Gascony SUPPORT A Paris to Burgundy
F Mid-Atlantic HOLD
A Paris MOVE to Burgundy
F Picardy SUPPORT A Burgundy to Belgium

Germany – A Berlin Support Munich
F Denmark move to Helgoland Bight
A Munich Hold
A Ruhr Move to Kiel
F Denmark RETREAT to Baltic Sea

Italy – The people rejoice as they experience a few months of peace while the Austrian armies partied Apulia.

Russia – Fleet Black Sea Support Russian Fleet Sevastopol into Rumania
Army Bulgaria HOLD
Army Prussia MOVE Berlin
Fleet Sevastopol MOVE Rumania
Army Silesia Support Russian Army Prussia into Berlin
Army St. Petersburg HOLD
Fleet Sweden Support English Fleet Skagerrak into Denmark
Army Warsaw MOVE Prussia
A Bulgaria RETREAT to Serbia

Turkey – A Constantinople SUPPORTS Fleet Rumania to Bulgaria
F East Mediterranean MOVE Aegean Sea
A Greece SUPPORTS Fleet Rumania to Bulgaria
F Rumania MOVE Bulgaria

http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/Fall1902moves.jpg



http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/winter1902.jpg

Austria: A Apulia, A Greece, F Ionian Sea, A Munich, A Tyrolia
England: F Denmark, A Holland, F North Sea, F Norway, A Ruhr
France: A Belgium, A Burgundy, A Gascony, F Mid-Atlantic, F Picardy
Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Kiel
Italy: F Naples, A Rome
Russia: A Berlin, F Black Sea, A Prussia, F Rumania, A Serbia, A Silesia, A St. Petersburg, F Sweden
Turkey: F Aegean Sea, A Albania, F Bulgaria, A Constantinople

Austria: 6 - Budapest, Greece, Munich, Trieste, Venice, Vienna
England: 6 - Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Liverpool, London, Norway
France: 6 - Belgium, Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain
Germany: 1 - Kiel
Italy: 2 - Naples, Rome
Russia: 8 - Berlin, Moscow, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, St. Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw
Turkey: 4 - Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Smryna
Neutral 1 - Tunis

Not that it makes a big difference now but if Turkey is in 'Civil Disorder' should it's unit of been disbanded instead of Retreating to Albania?

Otherwise wouldn't The Italian units try to retreat? :crazyeye:

Although it could be seen as now Summer 03 Turkey is in Disorder.

Now that the moves are up Austria I can clarify my:

That sounds ominous.

post. I am sorry but I had to retreat to Serbia no hard feelings I hope :salute:

What the ?!? :mad:

Noooo... why would there be hard feelings?!? You've only invaded and captured one of my countries!! :rolleyes:

You and I need to have a "talk"

Not that it makes a big difference now but if Turkey is in 'Civil Disorder' should it's unit of been disbanded instead of Retreating to Albania?

It would have made a difference - except the Sultan actually sent me his retreat order prior to announcing his resignation.

It sure was an interesting turn, wasn't it? :D

It would have made a difference - except the Sultan actually sent me his retreat order prior to announcing his resignation.

It sure was an interesting turn, wasn't it? :D

Although I find it hard to believe a retreat order could be sent before knowing if indeed a unit had to retreat or not :rolleyes:

Russia will be satisfied when the the judge/moderator provides a screen shot of the time stamp of the retreat explicitly expressing the sultan's orders.

As long as the time stamp of the retreat is before the timestamp of the post (Apr 13, 2006, 07:37 AM, when your clock is on central time, so basically it works out to ~28:00 before the timestamp on this post)

Then indeed the retreat was in before the resignation :)

I knew that I had to put in retreat orders with my moves. I knew that both Australia and Russia were going for my blood so I had to do the only thing that I could. I had sent in retreat orders for two units because I knew they might need them. Greece was one and so was Constantinople. I did know what was needed to do and Russia was correct in guessing what my moves would be.

FYI I had specified that Greece would retreat to Albania.
Here is the message I put forward after my moves.
Now if retreats are need for the army in Greece, then move to Albania.

How very diabolical of you!!

I suppose I deserve it. :lol:

Well played Turkey.

You guys left me no alternative but to take this course of action. But now that I am not in the game you guys are an even more of a threat to the rest so that will make you guys a target.

Very Well played Turkey :goodjob:

Wow it hurts so much more when you don't see it comming, This game is unreal, no matter how much you think you see all the moves, something unexpected happens :eek:

......bzzzzzt Begin transmission

Russian Intelligence has reported the following on Turkey's Moves:

Fleet East Mediterranaen MOVES Aegian Sea

Fleet Rumania
Army Greece
Army Constantinople

Gang up and and Attack Bulgaria!!! :( Oh no look out Russia Here IT comes :cry:

As for the North the is quite a Rumour about the Spring of 03...Not sure Who is alinging where,

But this is known for sure:

France, Austria, England and Russia can't be friends forever, :sad:

Spring of 03 will see any of the following combinations

1. England vs. France + Austria
2. France vs. England + Austria
3. Austria vs. France + England

However NEVER FEAR RUSSIA IS HERE TO HELP THE UNDERDOG!!! :lol:
(or join forces with the most lucrative offer)

......bzzzzzt end transmission


psssssssttttt: sir what if everyone goes agaisn't you?
Damit Soldier SHUT UP
You actually predicted what my moves were going to be and yet you did not plan for them. Now that is Crazy.

You actually predicted what my moves were going to be and yet you did not plan for them. Now that is Crazy.

I know :( :blush: , that came from a fundamental misunderstanding on my part about how things worked.

I believed that because Rumania and Greece were falling they could not support a move from Constantinople (which if you had tried to move your army from constantinople with support from Greece and Rumania) you would have failed.

Your move was the one move that fit and could work (although as I mentioned I thought it wouldn't matter, but after rereading the ruels I understand)

Which is why it was so well played by you :mad: but at the same time :worship:

I have a question. Can Sweden support The English fleets like that since they went into Sweden via the east coast and not the west coast?

Denmark is an "Amphibious" province, counting as both land and sea. So there is really only one Swedish coast.

so... any chance for leaving me alone :(

not like i can really... hurt you... at all, not even a little bit

HI ALL! I didn't read everything sorry, this game is underway hey?

Hmmmm will there be another one? If so may I play?

i wonder what nation you want to play as :mischief:

HI ALL! I didn't read everything sorry, this game is underway hey?

Hmmmm will there be another one? If so may I play?

We currently have an opening. Turkey has just resigned. If you're interested in taking his place, please let me know and you can get started playing.

Have you played Diplomacy before? If you haven't, don't fret. We have 2 newbies playing in this game.

We currently have an opening. Turkey has just resigned. If you're interested in taking his place, please let me know and you can get started playing.

Have you played Diplomacy before? If you haven't, don't fret. We have 2 newbies playing in this game.

Well I have played diplomacy before, but that was around the time it was invented. Never have I played on a computer.

The opening is for Turkey...hmm what a postion they are in.

Well I won't accept one way or the other until I hear from the other active leaders in the game, because I don't want to step on anyones toes. From my observation of the map that would be Austria and Russia.

What is the time commitment like?

The time commitment is not too bad. Just check your email once or twice a day and reply to messages that people send.

Turns are generally completed in 3-4 days, and you are welcome to turn in your moves any time before the deadline. Then I usually post the new map the day after the turn deadline, and the next turn begins.

I'm sure everyone would be glad to have you.

Hold the phone France, or maybe you were speaking as "moderator" for the game ;)

I can see how in France's Disposition It would be nice for Russia and Austria to actually have an oponent (friend ItalianVoice :D ) in the South.

However I think maybe we need to wait and see what everyone else says first, or if our new member (Welcome to the team by the way and don't let me discourage you, I am jsut simply pointing out from Russia's point of view here getting a southern opponent would be BAD)

But I don't know I guess in the show of sportsmanship if you want to play please join in (although we do have five active members, Germany you are still in)

Vote?

Hi, ItalianVoice!

I'm confident I can speak for everyone here that we want you to join our game. Turkey is available, and has 4 production centers. We are about to submit build orders, (due Saturday).

England was very concerned about the reports of a coup d'etat in Turkey. The inital wires indicated that anarchists were in control of the Capital, Ankara. Later transmissions cast doubt on those first reports. As of this writing, nothing is certain concerning the leadership of Turkey.

British Prime Minister Grimes: "I implore all Turkish leaders to contact the British Consulate posthaste, and we will ensure your safety and make certain that your communications reach the British High Command. Please contact pgrimesy@yahoo"

x-post with Russia
...from Russia's point of view here getting a southern opponent would be BAD...

Well, ItalianVoice, this may be an uphill battle for you, and you have are not actually playing yet! :)

Well looks like I am the one fighting the uphill battle

I am curious to see what Austria will have to say :mischief:

And since him and I still have some damage to repair :blush:

I could be in big trouble, but don't fear ItalianVoice Russia is here to serve and protect Turkey!

email is open if you decide to join the game: matthew_wheatley@hotmail.com

Oh yeah I forgot to mention Russian build orders are in :rolleyes:

Well I have played diplomacy before, but that was around the time it was invented. Never have I played on a computer.

The opening is for Turkey...hmm what a postion they are in.

Well I won't accept one way or the other until I hear from the other active leaders in the game, because I don't want to step on anyones toes. From my observation of the map that would be Austria and Russia.

What is the time commitment like?
You are in deep trouble with Austria and Russian ganging up on you and noone is likely to help you for a few turns.

Oh yeah I forgot to mention Russian build orders are in

I cannot confirm that. Please resend.

:mad: :mad: That blasted 70 PM limit!

I am missing the Russian, English, and German build orders. I apologize for the inconvenience. If needed, the turn deadline will be extended due to my forgetfulness to clear some space in my inbox.

Tomorrow I will be setting up a separate gmail account for the official Diplomacy record. After I do so, I'll provide you with the new address to send your orders to.

This post will also be sent as an official email to all players.

Germany's Chancellor and pretty awesome guy will not tolerate anyone taking Turkey!! that might actually make the game more fun :p

*giggles and roles about* MUHUHHAHAHAHA had you there for a moment didn't i yea admit it!! admit it :lol: join man join join JOIN JOIN :beer: JOIN JOIN *pukes* JOIN JOIN JOIN

I cannot confirm that. Please resend.

Ummmmmm ok :confused:


Build Orders
Austria - 1
England - 1
France - 1
Germany - DISBAND 1
Russia - NO CHANGE
Turkey - NO CHANGE


Does't this mean I don't have build orders? :sad:

In which case As I mentioned before:
Russian Build orders sent (because there are none) ;)

English orders were sent to Gb's gmail, but they were sent after the deadline. I understand this means England may get no build this year, unless an extension was granted due to the full PM box. :)

English orders were sent to Gb's gmail, but they were sent after the deadline. I understand this means England may get no build this year, unless an extension was granted due to the full PM box. :)

Russian Intelligence thinks England should still get thier build due to the full pm box,

Reason?

Even though England did not send via pm, he could have and lied and said he did.

However the British High command is made up of very honourable members and thus deserves break!!

@Memphus - Thank you for pointing that out. You confused me when you said they were turned in - and I couldn't find them. :blush:

@Peter - Your build order has been accepted - though France feels a little threatened by it. Let's have a talk later.

@Kentharu - We are waiting on you. I am extending the deadline until a little over one hour from the timestamp on this post. Please have your order in by then or I will disband your Fleet.

Ahh the end of the day
Well Midday for all my new found American Friends

Now I am still waiting on confirmation from General_W of Austria if indeed he would like me to join this game.

If not that is ok and will be in the next one,

If he does then Him and I and Memphus need to have a little chat

Because this time around Turkey will be different

For all involved, so you know who your up agaisn't

1. I am good, have played over 500 games in my life
2. I play tradionally,before the modifcations, what you see is what you get, no backstabbing, no lieing, no cheating
How can I do this? I am that good
3. Turkey's Position is bad right now but just wait and see what happens in 2 years from now
4. Without knowing much about how this game had progressed I can observe this

a) Germany must not have talked to anyone wow did he get ganged up on
b) I see a Large French English Alliance
c) There is either a French Austrian or French Russian agreement
d) England and Russia must have a northern agreement
e) Russian and Austria must be in kahoots to eliminate Turkey, like I said guys please talk to me I have a plan

Well how close am I?

Winter 1902 Builds, Beginning of Spring 1903

Information is also available on the first page of this thread.

Current Turn Orders Due: Tuesday, April 18 at 06:00 GMT
This converts to:
US/Central: Tuesday, April 18 at 00:00 (midnight, Monday night)
US/Eastern: Tuesday, April 18 at 01:00
US/Western: Monday, April 17 at 22:00
Please email your orders to diplomacy DOT record AT gmail DOT com by this time.

Notes about moves:
1. Welcoming our newest player, ItalianVoice, who has risen to become Sultan Voice of Turkey.


Austria –
Army - Trieste

England –
Fleet - London

France –
Fleet - Brest

Germany –
DISBAND Fleet - Baltic Sea

Russia –
None

Turkey –
None




http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/spring1903.jpg

Austria: A Apulia, A Greece, F Ionian Sea, A Munich, A Tyrolia
England: F Denmark, A Holland, F North Sea, F Norway, A Ruhr
France: A Belgium, A Burgundy, A Gascony, F Mid-Atlantic, F Picardy
Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Kiel
Italy: F Naples, A Rome
Russia: A Berlin, F Black Sea, A Prussia, F Rumania, A Serbia, A Silesia, A St. Petersburg, F Sweden
Turkey: F Aegean Sea, A Albania, F Bulgaria, A Constantinople

Austria: 6 - Budapest, Greece, Munich, Trieste, Venice, Vienna
England: 6 - Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Liverpool, London, Norway
France: 6 - Belgium, Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain
Germany: 1 - Kiel
Italy: 2 - Naples, Rome
Russia: 8 - Berlin, Moscow, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, St. Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw
Turkey: 4 - Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Smryna
Neutral 1 - Tunis

The British Foreign Office extends a warm welcome to the new government of Turkey.

:beer: May his governing be gentle, and his cousel wise! :beer:

Please PM your orders to gbno1fan by this time.

Will you have that gmail account set up by this time? :)

If not, no problem, I can still pm them

On a seperate Note Welcome ItalianVoice, I have sent you a message, Looking forward to working with a new southern partner :D

Thanks for the reminder.

The account has been set up.

From now on, please email your orders to: diplomacy DOT record AT gmail DOT com.

Just confirming one thing before I go to bed as it is not on the unit locations.

My Fleet in Bulgaria is on the East Coast, or North coast in the newer versions?

I gathered this from going through all the unit moves since the begging of the game...wow that was exahuasting, but there are going to be some surprises this turn.

This took me the better part of the night, but At least you guys are keeping an old man busy :)

My Fleet in Bulgaria is on the East Coast, or North coast in the newer versions?

Yes, the fleet is on the North (East) Coast. I'm not sure if it is called the north coast in the newer versions. I just called it that so I wouldn't have to explain coasts to the newbies using so many different terms. Maybe I'm just lazy?

can i still pm orders pwease pwetty pwease

can i still pm orders pwease pwetty pwease

Not sure why you like PM so much, but it is okay with me. Just as long as you get it in by the deadline.

Game mechanical question: Could Turkey have disbanded the Army in Greece, and replaced it will a fleet in Ankara or Smyrna in the same winter?

Welcome to the game ItalianVoice! [party]
(Sorry, Austria is a little slow)

Looking forward to playing with you.
(esp. on Epsilon team!)

Game mechanical question: Could Turkey have disbanded the Army in Greece, and replaced it will a fleet in Ankara or Smyrna in the same winter?

Well if you meant the army in albania ;) , then I have no idea but would like to know that game mechanic as well :)

By the way I got my first message from Turkey and it was a 4 year contract :eek: (and it sounded good for Russia :cool:)

Who plans 4 years(like every combination of moves and the most profitable long term gain scenario) out into the game...Now that is experience :worship:

@Peter & the game mechanics question - I believe that it would be possible for Turkey to do that, though I have never seen or thought of it. Perhaps our new player - who seems to have more experience than I - knows the answer?

@Peter & the game mechanics question - I believe that it would be possible for Turkey to do that, though I have never seen or thought of it. Perhaps our new player - who seems to have more experience than I - knows the answer?

I guess we have to wait until tommorow :( , what time is it in Italy now, 2,3,4
A.M.

Wow think of the game dynamic if that is allowed :goodjob:

@Peter & the game mechanics question - I believe that it would be possible for Turkey to do that, though I have never seen or thought of it. Perhaps our new player - who seems to have more experience than I - knows the answer?


Well good morning to everyone, or goodnight for all of you.

I will shortly be repsonding to all of my overnight mail.

Public questions to be answered:

Technically no that is not a valid move, I remember the first time I thought of it back in 1970 something, but I won't bore you with the story.

Although that variant is one I have played typically it msut be stated at the begging of the game. Otherwise it would be to easy when your homeland gets hit from a weak side in the fall to disband some units and recreate them for defence at home. To reclaim your initial ground.

However a legal move in this case would have been for turkey to decline the retreat and disband the unit instead, that way I could of had another build in the fall at home. But this is where strategy comes in.

Once you think about it logically it makes sense. If not I can try to clairify further.

As for the game:

So there are no surprises later on Turkey has taken this stance:

"The Janissaries are said to have been formed originally from the sultan's share of the prisoners of war..."

On a personale Note:
I believe I can speak English ok, however my mothertounge is Italian, but I also speak Spanish and French, so sometimes I mix them up, I am sorry, just let me know I will try to clarify what I said.

I remember the first time I thought of it back in 1970 something, but I won't bore you with the story.

Well I guess I've only got 30 years to catch up on!

Thanks for the reminder.

The account has been set up.

From now on, please email your orders to: diplomacy DOT record AT gmail DOT com.


Russian Orders sent!!

Please confirm that they were received at the new destination.

Also, does the first couple of lines get shown at gmail?

Or is the idea that gbno1fan will not go to that account until his orders have been sent ? :)

Austrian Orders sent in!

:salute:

Well Before I go to bed, I suppose I should submit my orders! It will beat getting up to submit

Hail Mighty Turkey!!

Look Out Germany!!

Look Out France!!

Look Out Russia!!

Look Out Austria!!

Look Out England!!

Turkish Orders Submitted

French orders are in.

I've also received Russia, Austria, and Turkey.

English Orders submitted.

1 hour before deadline?.... Please confirm receipt, if possible.

English Orders submitted.

1 hour before deadline?.... Please confirm receipt, if possible.

I believe our moderator has gone to bed zzzzzzzz

But I confirm as of this tiem stamp that England's orders were in 2 hours prior to the dealine (in case they don't get there) :)

Spring 1903 Moves, Beginning of Fall 1903

Information is also available on the first page of this thread.

NOTICE: I am slowing down the game slightly, in order to allow us all to focus a little more on the MTDG now that it has begun. I intend to have each turn take a week, instead of our current pace of 2 turns a week.

Current Turn Orders Due: Tuesday, April 25 at 06:00 GMT
This converts to:
US/Central: Tuesday, April 25 at 00:00 (midnight, Monday night)
US/Eastern: Tuesday, April 25 at 01:00
US/Western: Monday, April 24 at 22:00
Please email your orders to diplomacy DOT record AT gmail DOT com by this time.

Notes about moves:
1. All of the situations that would normally call for a retreat did not do so because the former occupant actually vacated the territory in all cases except Ruhr.
2. Since Ruhr bounced out of Holland, but was dislodged out of Ruhr, the unit had to be disbanded because it had no place to retreat to (it cannot retreat to a territory that was bounced during the same turn)


Austria –
A Greece MOVES to Serbia
A Trieste Support A Greece to Serbia
A Tyrolia MOVES to Venice
A Apulia MOVES to Naples
F Ionian SUPPORTS A Apulia to Naples
A Munich SUPPORTS French A Burgundy to Ruhr

England –
A Ruhr MOVE to Holland
F Denmark MOVE Heg. Bight
F London MOVE to Wales
A Holland Move to York
F North Sea CONVOY A Holland to York
F Norway HOLD
A Ruhr DISBANDED – nowhere possible to retreat

France –
A Burgundy MOVE to Ruhr
A Gascony MOVE to Brest
A Belgium MOVE to Holland
F Mid-Atlantic MOVE to Irish Sea
F Brest MOVE to English Channel
F Picardy MOVE to Belgium

Germany –
Germany failed to officially submit his order, his unit simply stays in place.

Italy –
The people panic as yet another city is captured by the Austrians.

Russia –
Army Serbia MOVES to Bulgaria
Fleet Rumania SUPPORTS Russian Army Serbia to Bulgaria
Fleet Black Sea SUPPORTS Russian Army Serbia to Bulgaria
Fleet Sweden Hold
Army St.Petersburg Hold
Army Berlin Hold
Army Silesia Hold
Army Prussia Support Russian Army in Berlin Holding

Turkey –
A Albania MOVES Greece
F Aegean Sea SUPPORTS A Albania to Greece
A Constantinople MOVES Smyrna
F Bulgaria MOVES Constantinople

http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/spring1903moves.jpg



http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/fall1903.jpg

Austria: F Ionian Sea, A Munich, A Naples, A Serbia, A Trieste, A Venice
England: F Helgoland Bight, F North Sea, F Norway, F Wales, A York
France: A Belgium, A Brest, F English Channel, F Irish Sea, F Picardy, A Ruhr
Germany: A Kiel
Italy: A Rome
Russia: A Berlin, F Black Sea, A Bulgaria, A Prussia, F Rumania, A Silesia, A St. Petersburg, F Sweden
Turkey: F Aegian Sea, F Constaninople, A Greece, A Smryna

Austria: 7 - Budapest, Munich, Naples, Serbia, Trieste, Venice, Vienna
England: 6 - Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Liverpool, London, Norway
France: 6 - Belgium, Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain
Germany: 1 - Kiel
Italy: 1 - Rome
Russia: 8 - Berlin, Bulgaria, Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, St. Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw
Turkey: 4 - Ankara, Constantinople, Greece, Smryna
Neutral 1 - Tunis

Press Release from the Prime Minister of France:

Ladies and Gentlemen:

Today Western Europe enters into a new era. The fall of Germany has led the French strategists to plan for our future. After much discussion and reflection, the conclusion was made that an attack on England was necessary for the future of France.

To realize this, we saw that England had two options going ahead:

1. After the fall of Germany, England attacks Russia. Over time, England would gain 3, maybe 4 supply centers – and they all would be difficult to defend since they would be far from England’s home. Once the attack is complete, England would be forced to turn on France. England simply would have nowhere else feasible to go to.

2. After the fall of Germany, England attacks France. This made more sense to our strategists. England could turn her armies towards France, use her fleets for support on coastal supply centers, and thus eventually gain all of the French supply centers – for a total of 6. Then England would have many options, as she could go after Russia from that point or turn to Austria.

After looking at these scenarios, France came to the conclusion that an attack had to be made at some point, and this season was the best opportunity to begin that attack.

That said, as Prime Minister of the great nation of France, I hereby declare War on England. I hope all other nations can see the reasoning behind these actions, and realize that they are Just.

That said, I would also like to continue to extend a welcome to any and all diplomats to visit me personally. France is always open to all considerations.

A Declaration of war? :sad: Can't we all just be friends? ;)

@Austria I guess I deserved that for retreating into your land :mischief:

@France: Seems like it needed to be done (Since the alternative was grim for Russia) :salute:

@ItalianVoice: Experience Eh? (canadian slang) hmmm it did surprise me, maybe we can talk :)

@Germany: Still hanging in there Way to go cool guy :cool:

@England: We need to talk...Does you tea need some Vodka after the presses have been printed?

@Russia:
Tsar! (soldier speaking from Prussia)
Yes Soldier?
Tsar we are still the same size as in Spring 02 (soldier speaking from Prussia)
And?
Well arn't you supposed to grow? (soldier speaking from Prussia)
Well yes soldier it is complicated I tell you what How about your turn orders look like this:
Army Prussia Move Baltic Sea
Army Berlin Support Russian Army from Prussia to Drown in the Baltic Sea :eek:

*tips his hat* thank you thank you

Do not mock Turkey it will hurt.

As for time, how old are you? Clocks work the same in Here as they do in Canada...

For example I know that it is roughly 3 P.M. where you are Memphus, but that is because I think of many things.

Just like your moves this turn

You are porbably stressed out.

Why Did Turkey Retreat? He is coloapsing, I will have an easy time.

I will tell you your moves this turn and then tell you why they won't work

A Bul Support F Blk Sea-Con
F Blk Sea Move Con
F Rum Move Blk Sea

But Austria will hit you from behind.

I will move out of Constantinople and come in the back door, I will Bounce you, I will make life difficult, until all of my units are where they start the game, Then I will take you apart piece by piece with moves not even concievable. Ever heard of Turkish Prong? I suggest you put an Army in Sevastopol if you happen to get a build this fall. If not my winning the game is a guarantee.

General_W I have an offer you can't refuse, if you do I am sorry to be blunt but you will lose.

Fance England May the best man Win
Russia You can try to talk to me, but as of this Moment Turkey is at war with Russia and can't be held for anything said or done towards Russia. For all of you this now means that if I lie to Russia it is acceptable from this point on as I do not see this as a breach of trust since our Nations are at war
Germany Live to fight another day
End game talk

House cleaning: Mr. Moderator, do you prefer orders to be submitted in full format or are abreviations acceptable?

House cleaning: Mr. Moderator, do you prefer orders to be submitted in full format or are abreviations acceptable?

I prefer full format since I feel the abbreviations are mainly so you don't have to hurt your hand writing out the words, and typing isn't very difficult.

However, I will accept abbreviations if you insist on submitting them.

@ItalianVoice:

Apparently the Protests of your people mean nothing... I understand

To me a leader is weak if they go agaisn't the will of the people.

Ankara, Turkey, March 19, 2005

That is ok Russia will be there soon to liberate you. :D

The British Foreign Office is drafting a response to France's Press Release, which will be published shortly.

The announcement was to be released yesterday evening, but the receipt of a a last minute letter has caused some reanalysis. Thank you for your patience.

Bzzzt

Good after noon this is your chancellor of Germany and pretty awesome guy ;)

Live from that place that got taken from us by the russians we are not there, at that place... you know

anyway German would like to say the as of now gnomes will be moved in to defend our homeland, considering the threat of people who just want to genocide gnomes are their gnomy ways :(

on the brighter side of things, mice (the plural of moose) have been used to perform a show for the gnomes to cheer them up. It worked, but now they are breeding like rabbits, hence rabbit-gnomes are the new fear through out the German place thingy

This is that Pretty Awesome Guy, from the Pretty Sweet Place signing off, back to you Sir BoBOBOBO boooo sofa man

:lol: fun :)

From: The British Foreign Office
To: All Officers of the Diplomatic Corps

FOR IMMEDIATE DISTRIBUTION IN ALL FOREIGN OUTLETS

France, having determined that the British Isles were to be unilaterally annexed, has shown his true style in the last moves. He chose to disregard a treaty that was joined by Britain and Austria in good faith. The text of the agreement is listed below. This is not the complete text, but if requested, the complete correspondence will be supplied upon request.
Comments about this division:
The division of Germany is designed to keep our groups of occupied territories clustered, instead of isolating ourselves. It also leaves England in a good position to attack Russian forces that will inevitably be in Sweden, and allows Austria to focus mainly on its other neighbors, who are sure to fight over the neutrals southeast of Austria. France will be in a strong position to defend itself, and support either Austria or England in their efforts following the fall of Germany.

Other things to note:

1. The English Channel, Irish Sea, Piedmont, Tyrhennian Sea, and Ionian Sea will all be neutral territories for the length of this alliance. Any units seeking to move into these territories will require permission from all parties bordering the territories.

2. This alliance will last until the official fall of Germany (when they no longer hold any supply centers or units).

3. Nations are allowed to speak with non-allied nations about whatever they wish. This includes starting rumors about possible attacks against other members of the alliance.

Then, in response to some questions of practicality:
As for your needing of assurance about France not attacking as soon
as Germany is destroyed, France is willing to agree to a 1 full year (2
turn) cooling off period between all 3 nations, during which time we can
realign units, and discuss further options for our Alliance.



France neither requested permission to move into the English Channel and Irish Sea, nor was granted that permission. Yet he tried to rationalize his lies in public, bringing further shame on his reputation. The Home Office would be the first to exclaim "Well played, Good Sir!", but it was not well played, nor is France a Good Sir.

England is certainly in a tight spot, but is quite obviously better off not dancing to the tunes France has been piping into the elevators around here: As bad as English music is, at least we've got Handel, Britten, Bowie, and the Beatles; whereas France is laughably the home of Debussy and the Cocteau Twins.

Britain cannot "scare" France into giving up this immoral assault, but we, the International Community can, at the very least, treat France in line with the way France has behaved: As a greedy, adolescent, obtuse manipulator.

French claims in the Mid-Atlantic, Belgium, Spain, and Portugal are no longer recognized as legitimate, as France has withdrawn from the Agreement establishing the right of those claims. Any Power seeking control of those centers will be supported by England.

All questions and concerns may be directed to the Home Offfice, posthaste.

Do I yet again have to explain my actions?

Well if I must...

First, a few lines from the official Diplomacy rulebook:
Diplomacy is a game of negotiations, alliances, promises kept and promises broken.
Conversations, deals, schemes, and agreements among players will greatly affect the course of the game. During diplomatic negotiations, players may say anything they wish... These discussions and written agreements, however, do not bind a player to anything he/she may say. Deciding whom to trust as situations arise is an important part of the game.

How true are these statements! I will not deny that I broke a deal. In fact, I will publicly state that I backstabbed an established ally. If I'm not mistaken, one of the lines I quoted above explicitly states that this type of action is part of the game experience.

However, I will continue to hold to the position that my actions were necessary for France to have a chance at victory (and that is what we're all playing for, right? to win?).

If I had not begun my attack, England would have been in a much better position against me in the future. England may claim that he would never attack me, but the fact is that a path to victory for England without attacking France is extremely difficult.

In this situation, I made the best of the opportunity presented to me. I believe that anyone else who wants to win would have done the same thing.

That said, I'm looking for allies in my war. Anybody willing to join in on the fun?

No one is asking you to explain your actions. They speak for themselves.

No one is disputing the 'legality' of your moves. This is a game of Diplomacy.

No one is questioning the reasoning behind your breach of Treaty. Your words are only worth the value you yourself place on them.


But you can't get very far in this game if no one trusts you at all. Someone with your experience should not have to be told that, (even I can see it): it's self evident.

Turkish Orders are in.

Glad to See Austria and Turkey could come to such a profiting Agreement.

England I will reply to you shortly, as the French Prime Minister has been rude and insulting to Turkey, but I am sure that doesn't come as a shock to you since he broke his word.

Following this he tried to credit what he was doing by quoting the rules of the game. My my to feel the need to justify what he did almost makes me wonder if he is now second guessing his choice of action? Either way it was the wrong move in his situation. The cooling off period as described by your treaty was never realized, thus we can only assume that the French word no longer has merit and all nations should ultimatly turn agaisn't France.

However in the event that all nations don't turn on France, there is little he can do to stop the English machine. There is a reason Egnland is the easiest Country to defend, and although caught off gaurd by a lie, England will prevail.

Russia my boy, that was quite the interesting picture you shared with us. Do you plan on moving to Ankara this turn? What was the hidden meaning behind that post? No matter, As I said I will come in your back door.

French Embasy closed
Russian Embasy closed

:bump: :bump: :bump: :bump: :bump: update?

Current Turn Orders Due: Tuesday, April 25 at 06:00 GMT
This converts to:
US/Central: Tuesday, April 25 at 00:00 (midnight, Monday night)
US/Eastern: Tuesday, April 25 at 01:00
US/Western: Monday, April 24 at 22:00
Please email your orders to diplomacy DOT record AT gmail DOT com by this time.

Just a couple more days :)

It appears nothing Austria does is secret anyway… :rolleyes:
So I might as well tell you…

Austrian orders are in! :D

:salute:

The following orders have been received as of this post:

Turkey
Austria
France
Germany

English orders posted.

I Guess I better Submit, Hate to be the last :evil:

In 2 minutes from this post My orders will be in :)

I want to see what happens to my former Empire after the coup.

Fall 1903 Moves, Beginning of Winter 1903 (Build Orders!)


Information is also available on the first page of this thread.

Current Build Orders Due: Thursday, April 27 at 06:00 GMT
This converts to:
US/Central: Thursday, April 27 at 00:00 (midnight, Wednesday night)
US/Eastern: Thursday, April 27 at 01:00
US/Western: Wednesday, April 26 at 10:00
Please email your orders to diplomacy DOT record AT gmail DOT com by this time.

Build Orders
Austria - 3
England - NO CHANGE (but lost one supply center)
France - 1
Germany - ELIMINATED
Russia - 2
Turkey - DISBAND 2

Notes about moves:
1. Germany and Italy were both eliminated this turn. We are officially down to 5 players.
2. The only retreat order was Turkey's Greece unit. I processed the retreat to Albania. If he would like to disband the unit instead, he may do so during the disband phase.
3. There is a minor mistake on the moves map. Apparently I put a Russian unit in Kiel before I

Example: Italy (if they could build) - Army Rome
That is all it takes. Just specify the unit type and the Home supply center. Also, if your home supply center has two coasts (RUSSIA), please be sure to specify which coast you are building on.


Austria –
A Serbia MOVES to Greece
F Ionian Sea SUPPORTS A Serbia to Greece
A Trieste MOVES to Serbia
A Venice MOVES to Rome
A Naples SUPPORTS A Venice to Rome
A Munich SUPPORTS Russia A Berlin moving to Kiel

England –
A York MOVE to Liverpool
F Helgoland Bight SUPPORT (Russian) F Sweden MOVE to
Denmark
F Norway MOVE to Sweden
F Wales SUPPORT F North Sea to London
F North Sea MOVE to London

France –
Army Belgium MOVE to Holland
Army Ruhr SUPPORT Army Belgium to Holland
Fleet English Channel MOVE to North Sea
Fleet Picardy MOVE to Belgium
Army Brest MOVE to Picardy
Fleet Irish Sea MOVE to Wales

Germany –
Army Kiel move to Denmark

Italy – The people suddenly switch gears and begin to chant “We love Austria…We love Austria…” as the Austrian army marches into Rome.

Russia –
Army Bulgaria SUPPORTS Austrian Army Into Greece
Fleet Rumania MOVES Black Sea
Fleet Black Sea MOVES Constantinople
Army Berlin MOVES Kiel
Army Prussia MOVES Berlin
Army Silesia HOLD
Fleet Sweeden MOVE Denmark
Army St. Petersburg MOVE Finland

Turkey –
Army Greece Hold
Fleet Aegian Sea Support Army Greece
Fleet Constantinople Move Ankara
Army Smyrna Move Armenia

http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/fall1903moves.jpg



http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/winter1903.jpg

Austria: A Greece, F Ionian Sea, A Munich, A Naples, A Rome, A Serbia
England: F Helgoland Bight, A Liverpool, F London, F Sweden, F Wales
France: F Belgium, A Holland, F Irish Sea, F North Sea, A Picardy, A Ruhr
Germany: None
Italy: None
Russia: A Berlin, F Black Sea, A Bulgaria, F Constantinople, F Denmark, A Finland, A Kiel, A Silesia
Turkey: F Aegian Sea, A Albania, F Ankara, A Armenia

Austria: 9 - Budapest, Greece, Munich, Naples, Rome, Serbia, Trieste, Venice, Vienna
England: 5 - Denmark, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway
France: 7 - Belgium, Brest, Holland, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain
Germany: 0
Italy: 0
Russia: 10 - Berlin, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Denmark, Kiel, Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, St. Petersburg, Warsaw
Turkey: 2 - Ankara, Smryna
Neutral 1 - Tunis

French build order is turned in.

Austrian Build Orders are in.
:salute:

-----------------------

Happy Winter '03 everyone. :xmascheers:
Wishing everyone a wonderful 1904.


Especially Germany - now retired to a Sunny Tropical Island somewhere.
Ever wonder if maybe Kentharu was really the smartest world leader?

Kentharu now lives here:
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c232/GeneralW/KenBeach.jpg

3. There is a minor mistake on the moves map. Apparently I put a Russian unit in Kiel before I

By the way, if you're wondering about this... While I was typing I realized the mistake was bigger than I thought, fixed it, and then forgot to take this out of the post. :blush:

Especially Germany - now retired to a Sunny Tropical Island somewhere.

Retired? I thought he was exiled.

i thought he was killed ;)

and Memphus man... you really never even gave a crap did you :(

anyway, GG mates awesome playing with you, can't wait till the next one!

i thought he was killed ;)

and Memphus man... you really never even gave a crap did you :(

anyway, GG mates awesome playing with you, can't wait till the next one!

Well Memphus Did :) , but unfortunately Russia did not :(

Great game though, keep contributing for the Real Game :goodjob:

Russian Build orders sent :salute:

Sleep Gently, Germany :)

Hope to see you lurking here. As for the next game, I think watching me get squashed has piqued Twistlok's interest... he might be up for joining the next one.

As for England, We are still very much alive, and very much not amused by the recent developments in the North Sea. Be warned, France, that you will not be permitted to drop anchor. Keep your boilers stoked, for you will need to execute a hasty retreat!

We are waiting for Turkey. I sent him an email about an hour ago reminding him of the disband order deadline.

However, in the event that he does not submit the order by the deadline, I will be acting in accordance with this rule (so we are all on the same page):
If a country in civil disorder has to remove units, the units farthest form the country are removed first. If units are equally distant, then remove Fleets before Armies and then in alphabetical order by the provinces in which they are located.
Therefore, the army in Albania and the fleet in Aegian Sea would be disbanded.

Note: I am not trying to jump the gun. I fully intend to give Turkey until the deadline I posted. I just thought this would be a good opportunity to show an example where this rule would be used.

Disbaning those units are ok by Turkey.

Sorry to hold up the game

Russia nice move, exactly what I said you would do, however I was hopeing that reverse pshycology would have worked better.....

I am in trouble now But can still do damage.

I'll post the updated map tomorrow morning, but I figured I might as well release the build orders, since they are all in.

Austria: Army Vienna, Army Budapest, Fleet Trieste
France: Fleet Brest
Russia: Army Sevastopol, Army St. Petersburg
Turkey: Disband Army Albania, Disband Fleet Aegian Sea

Again, I'll post the stuff tomorrow. Expect a deadline on Monday night.

Winter 1903 Builds, Beginning of Spring 1904

Information is also available on the first page of this thread.

Current Turn Orders Due: Tuesday, May 2 at 06:00 GMT
This converts to:
US/Central: Tuesday, May 2 at 00:00 (midnight, Monday night)
US/Eastern: Tuesday, May 2 at 01:00
US/Western: Monday, May 1 at 22:00
Please email your orders to diplomacy DOT record AT gmail DOT com by this time.

Notes about moves:
1. Nothing special to note.


Austria –
Army - Vienna
Army - Budapest
Fleet - Trieste

England –
None

France –
Fleet - Brest

Russia –
Army - Sevastopol
Army - St. Petersburg

Turkey –
DISBAND Army Albania
DISBAND Fleet Aegian Sea




http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/spring1904.jpg

Austria: A Budapest, A Greece, F Ionian Sea, A Munich, A Naples, A Rome, A Serbia, F Trieste, A Vienna
England: F Helgoland Bight, A Liverpool, F London, F Sweden, F Wales
France: F Belgium, F Brest, A Holland, F Irish Sea, F North Sea, A Picardy, A Ruhr
Germany: None
Italy: None
Russia: A Berlin, F Black Sea, A Bulgaria, F Constantinople, F Denmark, A Finland, A Kiel, A Sevastopol, A Silesia, A St. Petersburg
Turkey: F Ankara, A Armenia

Austria: 9 - Budapest, Greece, Munich, Naples, Rome, Serbia, Trieste, Venice, Vienna
England: 5 - Denmark, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway
France: 7 - Belgium, Brest, Holland, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain
Germany: 0
Italy: 0
Russia: 10 - Berlin, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Denmark, Kiel, Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, St. Petersburg, Warsaw
Turkey: 2 - Ankara, Smryna
Neutral 1 - Tunis

The English and French orders have been turned in.

English Orders submitted.... France, I truly can't wait to see what you've got up your sleeve ;)

german orders turned in :D

REBEL!! :p

Russia Will be turning orders in shortly.

I appologize to all leaders for the lack of contact this turn, and In the next hour before the deadline I will weigh on all the messages received and carry ouyt the orders to the best of my abilities.

RL has gotten in the way (new job, difficulties with the house) and my first priority was to Epsilon Team and the Domestic Office. (It is so bad That i couldn;t even finish the warlord GOTM in time :blush:, but I will make up with my noble game this month I hope)

I any event I appologize and after the turn I will be sending full messages to everyone.

Sincerely The very Tired Tsar

Russian and Turkish moves are in as well now.

Austria is pushing the deadline. I will send him a reminder email.

Wow! :wow:

Sorry Everyone!
Orders now submitted.

Spring 1904 Moves, Beginning of Fall 1904

Information is also available on the first page of this thread.

Current Turn Orders Due: Tuesday, May 9 at 06:00 GMT
This converts to:
US/Central: Tuesday, May 9 at 00:00 (midnight, Monday night)
US/Eastern: Tuesday, May 9 at 01:00
US/Western: Monday, May 8 at 22:00
Please email your orders to diplomacy DOT record AT gmail DOT com by this time.

Notes about moves:
1. France was dislodged from North Sea, but immediately retreated to York.
2. Austria bounced out of Burgundy, was dislodged from Munich, and immediately retreated to Bohemia (General_W, if you wanted to disband the unit, just let me know and I'll change it)
3. Turkey was dislodged from Armenia and was forced to disband.


Austria –
Fleet Ionian Sea MOVE to Tyrrhenian Sea
Fleet Trieste MOVE to Adriatic Sea
Army Rome MOVE to Venice
Army Naples MOVE to Apulia
Army Vienna MOVE to Tyrolia
Army Budapest MOVE to Trieste
Army Serbia HOLD
Army Greece SUPPORT Army holding In Serbia
Army Munich MOVE to Burgundy
Army Munich RETREAT to Bohemia

England –
F Sweden MOVE to Norway
F Helgoland Bight MOVE to North Sea
F London SUPPORT F Helgoland Bight to North Sea
A Liverpool MOVE to Edinburgh
F Wales HOLD

France –
Army Holland SUPPORT Army Ruhr
Army Ruhr SUPPORT Army Holland
Army Picardy MOVE to Burgundy
Fleet Brest MOVE to English Channel
Fleet Belgium SUPPORT F Brest to English Channel
Fleet Irish Sea MOVE to Wales
Fleet North Sea MOVE to London
Fleet North Sea RETREAT to York

Russia –
Army Bulgaria MOVE Constantinople
Fleet Constantinople MOVE Smyrna
Fleet Black Sea Support Russian Army From Sevastopol to Armenia
Army Sevastopol MOVE Armenia
Army Berlin MOVE Munich
Army Silesia Support Russian Army from Berlin to Munich
Army Kiel HOLD
Fleet Denmark Support Army Kiel Hold
Army Finland Move Sweden
Army St. Petersburg Hold

Turkey –
Fleet Ankara Move Constantinople
Army Armenia Move Sevastopol
Army Armenia DISLODGED, DISBANDED
http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/spring1904moves.jpg



http://dailydigitalphotos.com/ben/epsilon/diplom1/fall1904.jpg

Austria: F Adriatic Sea, A Apulia, A Bohemia, A Greece, A Serbia, A Trieste, F Tyrhennian Sea, A Tyrolia, A Venice
England: A Edinburgh, F London, F North Sea, F Norway, F Wales
France: F Belgium, F English Channel, A Holland, F Irish Sea, A Picardy, A Ruhr, F York
Germany: None
Italy: None
Russia: A Armenia, F Black Sea, A Bulgaria, F Denmark, A Kiel, A Munich, A Silesia, F Smryna, A St. Petersburg, A Sweden
Turkey: F Ankara

Austria: 8 - Budapest, Greece, Naples, Rome, Serbia, Trieste, Venice, Vienna
England: 4 - Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway
France: 7 - Belgium, Brest, Holland, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain
Germany: 0
Italy: 0
Russia: 13 - Berlin, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Denmark, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Rumania, Sevastopol, Smryna, St. Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw
Turkey: 2 - Ankara
Neutral 1 - Tunis