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Dowhook
Mar 26, 2006, 02:06 AM
Long-time lurker, new to posting here. I quit civ for a while due to being addicted to a certain 2-D multiplayer action game called Soldat (Soldat.pl), but I've come back to Civ recently and found it to be just as fun as before. I was just breaking into Emperor before I left, so I tried that as my comeback level, but alas, my skills have severely deteriorated since I left. :lol:

Well, I decided to go back to Monarch. This is my second game after returning to the game, and I thought maybe you all could give me some pointers, advice, helpful prodding, what have you, to get me on the right track. As a reward for any help, I can promise that if I survive there will be plenty of wanton violence.

On to the game!

Settings

Size: Large
Land: Archi
Water: 80% water (i think)
Climate: Dry, cool
Mountains: Scrapy
Difficulty: Monarch
Civ: Maya...never done them before, nice for a change, and industrial/agri will be killer in the early land-rush period to help me stay on top of the AI. Wierd settings for the Maya, I suppose. Pangea would be better, but I want a challenge.

Now then. If you haven't guessed what the title means, it stands for Nuke The World. I trust you can see where this is going. Game rules are as follows:


I must secure my island ASAP
early wars for resources and land are okay.
most warring will be saved for the modern ages.
when I can see the resources required for nukes, I will secure them ASAP.
nukes will be built ASAP.
my closest competitor will be attacked with a nuclear strike. I am a servant to the mushroom cloud and my mission is to rain fire upon any heathens who dare challenge my dominance.
diplo win is enabled. This means I need to build the UN so nobody else will win by that means. This is meant to be a thorn in my side. ;)


Now that you know the concept, let's begin. Remember, I crave input here. Give advice on everything, no matter how stupid it may seem. I'm learning to walk again here, and it sure as hell ain't like riding a bike: I've forgotten everything. :lol:

Thanks to the magic of photobucket, here is my start:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h146/dowhook/1-startingpoint.jpg

And my place in the world:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h146/dowhook/1-startingminimap.jpg

Not bad, not bad at all. As you can see I have two food bonuses, plus fresh water and plenty of hills. This all adds up to a very nice start. Chichen Itza will be a good settler factory. I send the worker to the wheat in the SE and settle on the spot.

A few turns fly by. I spit two warriors out of Chich. One goes northwest, the other northeast. After a few turns of scouting, this is revealed:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h146/dowhook/2-scoutingnorth.jpg

Silks! Great. I'm gonna need the luxuries. From what I remember, after you get past Regent you either need tons of luxuries or good balance on the luxury slider to keep your citizens from rioting nonstop, the ingrates. I make settling the silks a top priority. Also I notice that there is more nice, hilly land to the north, a wide strip of plains to the northwest, and more hilly land to the far west. My warriors keep poking around so I can draw up a dotmap.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h146/dowhook/3-dotmap.jpg

I've never been much good at this city-planning thing, not quite sure why, it's just one of the many things that completely gets away from me. Anyway, since I plan to be doing a lot of modern-era fighting, and since I plan to be building lots of nukes and other expensive units in this core area, I think I'm going to have to have my cities in the good ol' CxxxC placing, instead of my usual CxxC that I use. CxxxC makes me uncomfortable because of the distance between cities (and therefore difficulty shuffling troops before RRs) but I suppose the bonus of boosted production after Aqueducts is a plus.

Advice on my city placement or anything else I've done so far? Any boneheaded mistakes I've made? Like I said many times before, go ahead and feel free to point out my mistakes, it'll help me in the end. I would especially like if somebody could tell me how my planned city placement is looking.

Well, that's all for now, it's too late for anything more than a few turns. I'll write some more tomorrow.

Starkow
Mar 26, 2006, 08:37 AM
Looks good so far, although you have four spaces from your orange city to the pink and four from Chichén Itza to your pink. I don't know if that doesn't matter to you or not, just pointing it out. Good luck, this will be fun:nuke: :eek:

Dowhook
Mar 26, 2006, 11:08 AM
Well, you can just ignore the orange for now, that was just an idea and I will probably tinker with that a bit. The pink is somewhat unavoidable though. If I put it closer I lose the advantage of being coastal (offshore platform) and if I puit a filler city in between the pink and Chich it'll be way too crowded. I'll find a way to make it work. :cooool:

Between 3400 and 3150 I settle Copan on the silks and send my two workers to build a road into Chich. They complete the road in 3150, so I can let Chich grow up to size 3 and use all the workable tiles without getting disorder.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h146/dowhook/4-silksin.jpg

My workers start chopping at Copan for a rax. I'm not sure why, since I can only build warriors right now and I don't need them so much as settlers...but I have nothing else useful to build, so barracks it is.

My northeast warrior headed back south a while ago, while my northwest warrior cut to the east and swept back west again. I'm working outward in rings away from the capitol to scout the land in the order I will (hopefully) settle it. My southern warrior makes this discovery...

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h146/dowhook/5-ivorysouth.jpg

I think my priorities just changed. :lol: I'll be settling the ivory, then the northern plains, unless anything else pops up that I need. My northern warrior finds some more free luxuries up north. (There's a minimap right over the warrior's head so you can see whereabouts he is.)

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h146/dowhook/6-fursnorth.jpg

Great. Chich pops my second settler and I send him south, not quite sure where to put him as of yet. My warrior hasn't uncovered much land down there, and I hate settling a city, only to find out a turn later that it would've been better a tile to the east. My warrior looks around for a fewmore turns while my settler hangs around in the hills, until I've uncovered enough to make a decision.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h146/dowhook/8-dotmapsouth.jpg

It looks like there's coast two tiles northwest of the orange city, and grassland one tile west, so I think this is the best arrangement I can put down right there. That's all for now, I'll try to play some more this afternoon if my homework doesn't eat too much time, and hopefully post tonight.

carmen510
Mar 26, 2006, 11:48 AM
Better take the Ivory

conquer_dude
Mar 26, 2006, 12:50 PM
Wow. So many stories popping up every day I think my mind is plating tricks on me. :hammer2:

Very good. :D

Marsden
Mar 27, 2006, 10:47 PM
I like the Statue of Zeus, maybe you could build it, you have the ivory. The ACs are good for securing your island ASAP.

carmen510
Mar 28, 2006, 03:11 PM
What victory you goin for?

Blaze Injun
Mar 28, 2006, 08:28 PM
Hey,


What victory you goin for?


Rain of Fire: NTW

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Dowhook "Now then. If you haven't guessed what the title means, it stands for Nuke The World. I trust you can see where this is going."


This looks very interesting. What a start location!! :p I'm playing the Wolf's Civ Random (this is not a plug for this mod but the "BUGS" make for a fun and downright :aargh: game) and using it as a relearning of the game. But since you asked for questions based on gameplay and tactics and urban planning this will be great. Unless you mind I would like to ask questions to try and enhance may play as will.

Question Time:

Your quote: "My workers start chopping at Copan for a rax. I'm not sure why, since I can only build warriors right now and I don't need them so much as settlers...but I have nothing else useful to build, so barracks it is."

Personal style.

1. Is your style not to build the rax first? Why not build the rax and increase the pop. and then rush the settler after the rax?

2. Do you put workers on "work this city"?

Gameplay.

1. How many other civs. Did you none some of them?

1. What is SW and W of the ivory? Coastline?

If it is I would push to the north. This would sealoff the southern part of the land and and send every say... 3rd or 4th settler toward the south.
Taking the time to set up a quick settler factory and playing.

Size: Large
Land: Archi
Water: 80% water (i think)
Climate: Dry, cool
Mountains: Scrapy

Not much land and widespread grouped resourses. I would push north toward the fur and tobacco resourses.

If there is a civ in the south I would differently think about the elephant graveyards and push for the Ivory first. For sure.


Thanks,


Blaze Injun