View Full Version : Ivalician Mediator (Girl w/Gun) from FF Tactics (29 MAR 06)


Hikaro Takayama
Mar 29, 2006, 05:40 AM
I've got the final unit for the Civlilization of Ivalice done for the FF mod; the Ivalician Mediator. Basically she's a chick with a gun who can "convince" (enslave) enemy units to join your cause (as the Mediators in FF T did). She could also serve as a Female Musketman, Line infantry or Rifleman replacement.

Edit: I've creted an updated version with better (but similiar) clothes, and my much improved animations. I've also included two different pediaicon sets. Download it HERE (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=4280&act=down)

Updated default Pediaicon preview:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads//mediatorlarge_Umu.jpg

Updated animation preview:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/43985/Mediator.gif



Here's the file (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/Mediator.zip)

Here's the Preview:

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6438/mediator6es.gif (http://imageshack.us)

LizardmenRule!
Mar 29, 2006, 05:59 AM
good looking unit :thumbsup:

nice pants :D

woodelf
Mar 29, 2006, 06:01 AM
She's convinced me already. :D Nice unit Hikaro.

mrtn
Mar 29, 2006, 09:05 AM
Looking nice. :thumbsup: Is the preview in the same speed as in game? The Fortify seems a bit slow.

Quinzy
Mar 29, 2006, 09:32 AM
wootety!! great unit. very fluid animations.

Rambuchan
Mar 29, 2006, 09:39 AM
Nice cleavage :goodjob:

Storm Grunt
Mar 29, 2006, 09:53 AM
Good work. nice muzzle blast.

Vuldacon
Mar 29, 2006, 10:15 AM
Love the "Curves" to her Attack Stance :lol: Good Mussle Smoke and should represent the Ivalician Mediator very well.:goodjob:

The Last Conformist
Mar 29, 2006, 10:39 AM
The run doesn't seem right - she's carrying the musket as if were made of aluminium foam.

Nice otherwise. :groucho:

Grandraem
Mar 29, 2006, 11:00 AM
Very nicely animated and well designed unit.:)

Hikaro Takayama
Mar 29, 2006, 11:01 AM
Okay (and maybe this is a bit my fault) but if you look carefully (it's easier to notice in the S direction), she's wearing a gold shirt under her jacket, which is to match her pants (like many 18th century uniforms had) :rolleyes: I may have to change her shirt color to white or something so that people don't think she's going around partially topless.....

MRTN: well, the preview animations WERE supposed to be the same speed as in game, and they were when I made the gif in Animation Shop 3.... It would seem, however, that Imageshack changed it so that all the frames were at some average framerate, so yes, the fortify and run animations in the preview are much slower than they are in-game.

gorn
Mar 29, 2006, 12:34 PM
A lot of the other Amazon units I'm using in my game are topless or partially so. No need to change it.

Stormrage
Mar 29, 2006, 01:12 PM
It looks great :)

Goldflash
Mar 29, 2006, 01:14 PM
I like everything but the run. Too sloppy. I would rather see her March with the musket shouldered.

Heretic_Cata
Mar 29, 2006, 01:15 PM
I just love looking at that atack stance :D.

Thorgrimm
Mar 29, 2006, 02:07 PM
Hikaro, good job on the female musketeer. You think you could do a version with ragged dirty civilian clothing? It would be for the Fallout mod.:D



:nuke: Cheers, Thorgrimm :nuke:

odintheking
Mar 29, 2006, 04:33 PM
Very good, Hikaro! Can't have enough chicks with guns, :D.

Hikaro Takayama
Mar 29, 2006, 05:30 PM
A lot of the other Amazon units I'm using in my game are topless or partially so. No need to change it.

Actually, looking at the unit with alpha-blending (i.e. like it would in-game), it's obvious that she's wearing a gold-yellow shirt (the lack of definition in the breast area is a dead-givaway.... If she wasn't wearing a shirt, her chest area would have a noticable line between her breasts) Besides, the Pedia Icon is quite clear (not to mention that the gold color is fairly noticably different than her skin tone) And it's not alright that people think she's half-nude. I don't make half-neckid women, nor do I use such units in my mod. It's against my religion. If people keep on insisting on making comments about it, I swear I'll delete the unit files, re-texture the clothes in all my animation files and re-render her.:mad: One of the reason I've been making a lot of female units is because I got tired of the only ones out there being BlueO's and Kindred's nude or topless Amazon units.

Goldflash: If you would be so kind as to make a Walk-designer file for poser for a march, then be my guest, but all the run/walk type settings move the arms around, and changing the animation is a royal pain in the rear. On top of that, I've actually RAN into mock-combat situations before, and you don't carry the gun at shoulder-arms when you're charging into battle....

Thor: I MIGHT be able to do something along those lines..... I'm doing a modern Female infantry unit based on this one next, though, and the Skaven Warplock Jezzail after that, but I might be able to slide you in sometime after that ;)

gorn
Mar 29, 2006, 05:44 PM
Hey, it's your unit - you can do as you like with it. I'm happy to use it either way. I didn't mean to offend your religion, but I've been a big fan of BlueO's work, and I've got as many Amazon units (naked or otherwise) in my game as I could find. Each to their own.

Now that I know your preference, I certainly won't bother you again about it. I'm not a unit creator myself, so I'm grateful for anything I can download.

Bluemofia
Mar 29, 2006, 08:11 PM
Note: Files won't be available until 3D Downloads gets back to me with the link (but I did upload them)
Now thinking of it, how large is this file? Because most people would use the forum's upload service instead of 3D Downloads...

Hikaro Takayama
Mar 29, 2006, 08:26 PM
Last I checket the File Server was down.... Didn't you see the announcement that TF made? I couldn't upload to www.civfanatics.net (the file server), so I did as TF said and created a 3D downloads account and uploaded it there.... Speaking of which, the link is now active, and I'll host the unit from 3D downloads until the file server is back up and running.

mrtn
Mar 29, 2006, 08:28 PM
File upload is working again, and has been for some hours.

Hikaro Takayama
Mar 29, 2006, 08:31 PM
What?!? Why didn't someone make an announcement about this?

Well, time to upload it to the Civfanatics server.....

Bluemofia
Mar 29, 2006, 08:37 PM
I didn't know the upload server was offline...

Oh well. Shows how observant I am. :ack:

Vuldacon
Mar 29, 2006, 08:39 PM
Actually, looking at the unit with alpha-blending (i.e. like it would in-game), it's obvious that she's wearing a gold-yellow shirt (the lack of definition in the breast area is a dead-givaway.... If she wasn't wearing a shirt, her chest area would have a noticable line between her breasts) Besides, the Pedia Icon is quite clear (not to mention that the gold color is fairly noticably different than her skin tone) And it's not alright that people think she's half-nude. I don't make half-neckid women, nor do I use such units in my mod. It's against my religion. If people keep on insisting on making comments about it, I swear I'll delete the unit files, re-texture the clothes in all my animation files and re-render her. One of the reason I've been making a lot of female units is because I got tired of the only ones out there being BlueO's and Kindred's nude or topless Amazon units.
...Hikaro Takayama, Relax, Actually, she looks good and obviously is fully clothed. Her Yellow shirt is obvious and need not be changed. As for any reference to her sexuality or appeal...well, she is not a Masculine looking woman and people can certainly see that :) Perhaps some personal comments, including mine, caused you to miss the over all point intended... your unit is a good one.

Hikaro Takayama
Mar 29, 2006, 08:50 PM
...Hikaro Takayama, Relax, Actually, she looks good and obviously is fully clothed. Her Yellow shirt is obvious and need not be changed. As for any reference to her sexuality or appeal...well, she is not a Masculine looking woman and people can certainly see that :) Perhaps some personal comments, including mine, caused you to miss the over all point intended... your unit is a good one.

Okay, thanks.... I still haven't actually added her to the game yet, but I figured I'd wait until I got my next unit project (which uses the same animations) done... A modern (actually the overall style is somewhat more WW II or mid 50's, but she could work for a Modern) female Infantry armed with a semi-auto Sniper rifle (actually all I did was add a scope to Kinboat's musket prop :lol: ).... I'll be posting a preview in my previews thread here shortly....

And as for why I might have got a bit bent out of shape..... Well, my friends in the Navy didn't call me "Reverend" for nothing. ;)

Mithadan
Mar 29, 2006, 09:48 PM
Nice unit! I like the pants too. Actually, the colouration (blue & yellow) reminds me of some of the Napoleonic units (Hessians???) I remember from a movie about Catherine the Great starring Catherine Zeta Jones (if I'm not mistaken).

Hikaro Takayama
Mar 29, 2006, 10:16 PM
Yeah, the Hessian Jaeger Riflemen wore Gold uniforms with blue jackets, and blue tall hats with gold emblems on them... The Ivalice Mediators (male and female) wore that type of hat, along with a sort of chinese type robe, but most such clothing is not conforming for the legs, meaning that you have to adjust the various skirt posing morphs by hand for each frame.... A real pain in the arse.

The whole outfit (hat, top, pants and boots) with the exception of the belt is Bat Lab's Aiko Cleric outfit with some modifications.....

Mithadan
Mar 29, 2006, 11:03 PM
Huh, my memory (of apparently historically accurate movies) is better than I thought!

I can only but take your word on the difficulty of modelling the clothes. I wasn't even competent to create Civ2 units!

The Last Conformist
Mar 30, 2006, 01:54 AM
In the general fuss about her allegedly exposed breasts :rolleyes:, my comment about the run seems to've been ignored - she's carrying the rifle as if it had no weight at all, while a musket in reality is pretty heavy. Could this be fixed?

Hikaro Takayama
Mar 30, 2006, 05:42 AM
In the general fuss about her allegedly exposed breasts :rolleyes:, my comment about the run seems to've been ignored - she's carrying the rifle as if it had no weight at all, while a musket in reality is pretty heavy. Could this be fixed?

Sure Make a new run for the walk designer for me :D Otherwise, I'd have to manually animte the run frame-by frame, which In Poser 5 is a HUGE pain in the butt, and if I had to do that with ALL my units, I'd never get anything done.... Besides, Beatrix's Two-hander probably weighs three times as much as this musket (and believe me, black-powder rifles and muskets aren't that heavy... I'm talking from experience here ;) ), and nobody complained about her run animations (which I used for this unit).

Heretic_Cata
Mar 30, 2006, 06:11 AM
In the general fuss about her allegedly exposed breasts :rolleyes:, my comment about the run seems to've been ignored - she's carrying the rifle as if it had no weight at all, while a musket in reality is pretty heavy. Could this be fixed?
Nooo - she has muscles :).
Leave the animations as they are (especialy the atack animation:D)

The Last Conformist
Mar 30, 2006, 06:34 AM
Sure Make a new run for the walk designer for me :D
Hm. That could get tricky ... considering I'm strictly a 2D artist. :p
Otherwise, I'd have to manually animte the run frame-by frame, which In Poser 5 is a HUGE pain in the butt, and if I had to do that with ALL my units, I'd never get anything done.... Besides, Beatrix's Two-hander probably weighs three times as much as this musket (and believe me, black-powder rifles and muskets aren't that heavy... I'm talking from experience here ;) ), and nobody complained about her run animations (which I used for this unit).
I'll find this Beatrix unit and complain about her too. :p

From some googling, muskets from the earlier 19th century typically weighed in at about 4kg, which is the weight of a quite big twohander. Earlier muskets were generally heavier, up to 10kg for the earliest ones.

A 12kg sword would be unusable, unless the wielder had superhuman strength.

But enough with the negativity; this is still a good unit. I'll just have to live with the walk. :)

Bluemofia
Mar 30, 2006, 08:05 AM
A 12kg sword would be unusable, unless the wielder had superhuman strength.

Not unusable... Just limited to 2 or 3 swings before it's energy drain exceeds what you can reasonably give. :mischief:

I've swung around something that weights more than 12 kgs before, but just once or twice before I got tired.

Rambuchan
Mar 30, 2006, 08:38 AM
"Reverend" Hikaro: ;) I was just joking about the cleavage. It's clear she is modestly and well dressed.

Thorgrimm
Mar 30, 2006, 10:10 AM
Thor: I MIGHT be able to do something along those lines..... I'm doing a modern Female infantry unit based on this one next, though, and the Skaven Warplock Jezzail after that, but I might be able to slide you in sometime after that ;)

Hikaro my friend, whenever you can fit it into your schedule is fine. :D



:nuke: Cheers, Thorgrimm :nuke:

Snorken
Mar 31, 2006, 02:36 PM
Nice unit, Hikaro. :)

Spacer One
Apr 01, 2006, 01:53 PM
Nice unit Hikaro...I agree we dont need more nekid womens...

My 2 cents: Ive participated in several civil war reenactments, usually with replicas, but on occasion, with the actual rifles from the period...they do weigh alot, but they are fully manuverable (as per the unit animation)...as far as 10kg, most of that is in the stock(butt) and really doesnt effect usage...
This has been Spacer One's two cents...

Roman Legion
Apr 01, 2006, 07:10 PM
Finnally, I can say Great Unit Hikaro!!!!!!:D:D:D:D

Hikaro Takayama
Apr 01, 2006, 07:15 PM
Well, according to The Illustrated Book of Guns by David Miller, the Springfield Rifled Muskets weighed 8 and a half lbs, nowhere near the 23 lbs (10 Kg) that TLC was talking about.... My dad has a Pennsylvania Long Rifle (American Revolution era) reproduction, that is fully functional and faithful to the originals in every way, and it weighs about 7 or maybe 8 lbs.... And it's about 1.5 ft longer than the Brown Bess muskets that the British used during the same era....

And I've (during security training) ran from one end of the pier to the other with a fully-loaded M-14 rifle (which weighs about 10 lbs) without any difficulty, and I'd often spend up to 5 hours of constant walking with this rifle when I was on Pier Rover or Flight Deck Rover watches when I was in the Navy.....

And glad you guys like the unit :)

Roman Legion
Apr 01, 2006, 07:21 PM
so that American Rev musket, it weighs as much as a modern M-16, If I had to choose an assault rifle, it would be a M-4 assault rifle. G2G, talk 2 u later Hikaro Takayama.

Hikaro Takayama
Feb 28, 2007, 05:09 PM
OK, I've finally got around to re-doing this unit with better clothes and my improved rifle animation set. Hope you like her.

Goldflash
Feb 28, 2007, 05:46 PM
Oh I do. Trust me.