My tale is a question...and a story...

(sorry no screenies; at school:( )

I started out as Tokugawa of Japan, on a set of moderate sized islands, the romans were our neighbour until I conquered it and razed it to the ground, and then settled a village on the ruins of Rome, that will become the capital of Japan, Kyoto.

The real part of the tale starts when I discover map making; galleys start to appear and I discovered my first neighbour and ally India; it to is separated from the world, isolated on a large island, it is then that I decided it would be wise to establish a representative city from Japan on this island, latter on it's cultural influence would be succomed it and from there Bombay would be a japanese city.

Years later, other civilization where discovered, namely: France, Germany, Aztecs, Babylon, Persia, China, Russia and Zululand, then a millenium away after great events* England would be found at last.

The Aztec lands were deemed a good place for future growth because the japanese archipelego were finally all colonized, and so by then war broke out and the aztecs fell to the swift wrath of the samurai blades and arrows of the much bigger and powerful japanese army.

Of course, Japan felt isolated and cramped on her islands, and decided to install a multi-trade port on the continent home of eight nations (France, Germany, Zululand, China, Babylon, Persia, England and Russia), and it succeded.

By then (1200 AD) Japan colonized almost all the unhabitated islands within the country's vicinity, but then again, upon reflexion, Tokugawa was faced with an important decision, they needed the space...

This is where the question comes at hands, you, my comerades (users)! Help me with this important decision, should I invade India and risk facing the world's doubtful eye and keep the jewel rich, Indian lands like I did to the Romans and the Aztecs? Or should I keep India as an ally, for possible future skirmishes? Or even maybe the secluded english in their southern cold lands rich in food, or should I keep MY eye on the world's oppinion, and then be forced into colonizing far away lands...

Please, I'd love your comments, suggestions on this situation and I'd love feedback on my first log/tale/story/question. Thank you, all!

In a future and real story, I would make it longer and more interresting than this one; it was just a question, nothing more, nothing less... And it will have screenies!

Agree -- essentially a long question and should be moved to Strategy & Tactics. However, it's an interesting question. It appears that this game is being played somewhere around Monarch or below, so war can be waged with confidence that the player will have the edge. But even if the AI were well ahead, I would still kill Gandhi. He is a trecherous dog to his very bones and deserves nothing more than ruined cities, lamentation, and ultimately, extinction.

You asked.

Ghandi does seem to be more insanely power-crazy than you would expect...

You can attack... or not.

Mainly, the question is: what do you want to do in this game? if you want to win by conquest or domination, then yes, attack! If you want to win by UN, maybe not.

In general, if you want to expand after all land is taken, it's easier to go for those that are near you. India can be a pain if they have chivalry - war elephants are tough.

Ghandi does seem to be more insanely power-crazy than you would expect...

You can attack... or not.

Mainly, the question is: what do you want to do in this game? if you want to win by conquest or domination, then yes, attack! If you want to win by UN, maybe not.

In general, if you want to expand after all land is taken, it's easier to go for those that are near you. India can be a pain if they have chivalry - war elephants are tough.

No they don't, I have all the war elephants, I want to try for a diplo win but India is the "way" of my expansionnist movements but they have been a friend for a long time...

Perhaps I was unclear. Gandhi is a plague virus, a faithless dog who would sell his grandmother and her parakeet to the stockyards. His very existence - no, the possibility of his existence - is an affront to all that is good in this life. Let his fields burn, let the rivers of his lands run with blood, and may no stone of his cities remain one atop the other.

Intresting.... Continue.

how can you have the war elephants? all ghandi needs to build them is chivalry. Ivory (the elephants) are, ironically, *not* needed to build war elephants....

If you want a diplomatic victory, and Ghandi is a friend, then I would attack someone else.

Ghandi is okay to keep alive, until nukes. Then he becomes VERY unstable.

Since last time, I conquered France and Germany, Zululand and India join the war! Ghandi's attitude towards has changed from polite to gracious, so I don't think Im going to conquer my closest neighbour, India. If I decide I need more space I'm going to invade Germany; they're right on my doorstep (newly conquered France, all my army is there). I'm not sure If I want a diplo win or a conquest game...but either way, I want his game to last until modern times.:p

Ghandi is okay to keep alive, until nukes. Then he becomes VERY unstable.
That is all too true, I'm afraid. Ghandi in the modern age is annoying.

Here come those Indian nukes... Lamo. He never fights. He's too peacful he doesn't want to risk the life of his own people so he kills other people with nukes. :lol:

That is all too true, I'm afraid. Ghandi in the modern age is annoying.

Here come those Indian nukes... Lamo. He never fights. He's too peacful he doesn't want to risk the life of his own people so he kills other people with nukes. :lol:

Yeah, I think that's the same reason why he builds lots of artillery and cruise missiles...

So, I should kill him? (Im now in idustrial and he's in medieval.

I'd say you should have no trouble waiting until later, and if you're going for a diplo win, you can hold a vote before anyone can build nukes most likely.

Yes, Ghandi was annoying with nukes. He nuked me today as he did with Sima Qian in Project Kaguya.

So, I should kill him? (Im now in idustrial and he's in medieval.
Oh dude I would take him down! :hammer:

He nuked me today as he did with Sima Qian in Project Kaguya

I can't remark Ghandi even being in the second one, but he was in the first, and what I remember, I don't recall Sima being nuked...

Please refer to my above comments.

As Tupacatha (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=162964) knows all too well, Gandhi is a parasite, he will leach off the success of others and has no qualms about the use of nuclear weapons or sneak attacks.

So I guess i'll take down the indian isles when I get the chance, I don't know when...

Whoops! It was Chief Tupacatha story I was reffering to.