I have a scenario idea. What do you think, is it worth making? Should I try?
Here's what it's about:

There have been a lot of scenarios using the maps of the world or of smaller regions from the world in a certain historical moment.
I would like to make a "Current world 2006" scenario (not sure about the name yet), where I will include the most important civs from the present, not from the past.


I need help in a lot of things:

Tech tree: How could we now what is going to be researched next if we can't predict the future? Any ideas? Maybe I should include technologies which are developing right now? Like Genetics or Space Flight or Robotics? What should I do? How am I going to make 4 eras? Or should I make a single era with many and long to research techs?

Ledearheads: We have real leaders and photos of them. But how is anyone going to make 31 good leaderheads that resemble actual leaders of the civs in the scenario? Should I limite to flags? :( :cry::sad: I don't like the idea of flags as leaders. ANY LH MAKER OR ANYONE WITH SUGGESTIONS HERE PLEASE POST!

Units: I think there are enough modern units here. I just need to find good ones. If I will need something specific I will ask.

Map: I will need a huge world map (the only problem is that with my computer I won't be able to play a huge map with 31 civs unless if I wait 5 minutes at the end of each turn, so I'll make the scenario but not for me :crazyeye:).

Another problem with the map (IMPORTANT!!!): there are several territories that aren't belonging to any of the important civs. Should I assign them to neighbouring important civs or use one of the current civs to make room for a generic one called "Other" that will have all these difficult territories?

Graphics: I'll use what is posted here together with my own creations and modifications of existing graphics.

Culture groups: My idea would be:
First four of them: European, Asian, American, Middle East.
Last one: Other or "Australian and island Pacific islands", since these are the only places that don't fit in the other 4 groups.

WAITING TIMES: Please if you know anything to reduce loading times (or any waiting times) please tell me! I need to try my scenario too ;), without improved times I won't be able to.

For the civs see the next post.

Regarding the civilizations:
I will remove all civs that were strong or important in the past but are weak or dissapeared completely in our days. I will replace some of them and I will rename others.
Here is a list with the civs I first thought of. Maybe there are better choices.
The civs with nothing written next to them will stay exactly the same as in the original C3C game.
The ones with a name next to them will be renamed.
The ones with ** before the new name are completely different to the new name, didn't exist in the same geographic place, and their name is "randomly" given (by random I mean that I took the most important civs that exist in our days, but I assigned them to an original C3C without finding any connection to their new name, just because I had to replace some of the old ones with some of the new ones).
The question mark after a name means that I'm not sure or if that there are more variants written there and I don't know which of them to choose.


The list of civs (I tried to make an alphabetic order), with the civ they replace:

Americans ............ USA
Arabs .................. Saudi Arabia
Aztecs ................ Mexico
Babylon ............... ** Switzerland? Singapore? Brunei?
Byzantines ........... ** OTHER (civ that gets the unimportant territory)? Or Pacific Islands?
Carthage ............. ** Any ideas? I would like another African civ. Or Pakistan? Or Iraq?
Celts .................. ** Australia
China
Dutch
Egypt .................. ** Argentina? Chile? Colombia? (a South American civ)
England ............... United Kingdom
France
Germany
Greece
Hittites ............... ** Poland? Ukraine? Finland? Norway?
Inca ................... ** Peru?
India
Iroquois ............... Canada
Japan
Koreans .............. ** South Korea
Maya .................. Brazil?
Mongols .............. ** Indonezia?
Ottomans ............ Turkey
Persia ................. Iran
Portugal
Rome .................. Italy
Russia
Spain
Sumerians ........... Thailand
Vikings ................ Sweden
Zulu ................... South Africa




So the civs of this scenario could be (keeping the order from the previous list):

USA
Saudi Arabia
Mexico
Switzerland? Singapore? Brunei?
Another African civ? Or Pakistan? Iraq?
Australia
China
Dutch
Argentina? Chile? Colombia? (I would like another South American civ)
United Kingdom?
France
Germany
Greece
Poland? Ukraine? Finland? Norway?
Peru
India
Canada
Japan
South Korea
Brazil
Indonesia?
Turkey
Iran
Portugal
Italy
Russia
Spain
Thailand
Sweden
South Africa
OTHER (civ that gets the unimportant territory)?


Again, the civs of this scenario (alphabetical order this time):

Argentina? Chile? Colombia? (I would like another South American civ)
Australia
Another African civ? Or Pakistan? Or Iraq?
Brazil
Canada
China
Dutch
France
Germany
Greece
India
Indonesia
Iran
Italy
Japan
Mexico
Peru
Poland? Ukraine? Finland? Norway?
Portugal
Russia
Saudi Arabia
South Africa
South Korea
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland? Singapore? Brunei?
Thailand
Turkey
United Kingdom
USA
OTHER


What do you think? Is this a good idea? Would you like to see it done? Do you have any suggestions?

It could well work, but I think there are already quite a few attempts at "the world now!" scenarios in the fora. Not that that means you shouldn't try one, but it depends on how original you can make it.

Civilisations list: seems fairly good to me. At the risk of annoying our Greek friends, though, I don't think Greece is important enough these days to merit inclusion. It might make more sense to replace it with, say, Israel. Similarly, I think Switzerland is less important today than Iraq. That allows you to turn the Mongols into Indonesia, which should certainly be in.

Thanks!

I agree Greece isn't so important today. And I'll turn the Mongols into Indonesia (I was going to do it sooner or later).

I haven't seen a "whole current world" scen. I've seen scenarios for Today's Middle East or other regions of the Earth (maybe there are, but I haven't seen them).

Edit: I could find one like this by Garik, but it's coming from 1948 to 2030, so not in the same time. I saw "The American Civil War" and other scens made out of it (but it's just for America I think), "The Second Korean War" (that's again not for the whole world), I've seen one that took place at the death of Fidel Castro (but again not for the whole world), I've seen a "Middle East 2006" but like the others it's only regional.
Also in Garik's scen there are alliances. I'm not going to have any (well, maybe USA vs Iraq).

I made the changes :).
BTW the reason for having Switzerland as a civ is not so much how important it is now, but more to give the players the chance of a nice OCC in this scen. It's one of the most important small states (Vatican is more important, but it's hard to place on the map). You can go for a Culture or Diplo victory while playing as Switzerland.

You should have Colomiba. Good I idea; modified TWC map/tech and valla! Although the UAE isn't that important. Pakistan insted of Africans. You should add:
Romania
Bulgaria
and one Civ that the player as to struggle playing as like Belgium, Luexumbourg, Monnaca or Andorra; oh and Vatican City is important ;)

That's true. It's a good idea to balance realism with playability in that way, and to think about different goals for different civs. Although if you want to do that, I'd recommend a different civ rather than another European one. Singapore might be an interesting choice for OCC material, or perhaps Brunei - or one of the smaller Gulf states. These are all regions that are under-represented at the moment, whereas Europe's going to be overcrowded whatever happens. Singapore might be the best choice out of these, since it does have an important role on the world stage (it has the busiest seaport in the world).

I have a great idea for the name: "The Begginings of the IIIrd Millenium". It could take place from January 2001 to December 2006. Also I could change the dates every year so that it is always up to date, not too much in the past and not too much in the future. What do you think?

Edit: Crosspost with the last 2 posts.

Answer to the last 2 posts:

I didn't add Romania mostly because I don't want to be considered a patriot :lol:.
You're right, Plotinus, Europe might be overcrowded. I'll consider adding Singapore or Brunei instead of Switzerland.

Edit: Added Singapore and Brunei as possible choices instead of Switzerland.

Singapore definitely over Brunei. I don't mind Brunei but apart from their oil they are defenitely not as important as Singapore.

Yes, I was thinking the same way.

Another "suggestion needed" topic added to the first post. Question about waiting times.

Anyone has other suggestions (for any of the matters where I need help)?

I didn't notice your from Romania; its just I want the strenght of NATO (L'OTAN) represented well in the game.

I'd put in Saudi Arabia instead of UAE...

I agree with VC on that and how about the struggling counrty be Bosnia-Herzegovina? I'd love to play as them :)

Don't worry, William GBTW, if anyone else wants, I will put a Romania civ.

Ok, I might change to Saudi Arabia. Edit: I made a little confusion, I mean Saudi Arabia. Sorry, I was posting in a hurry. I thought Saudi Arabia was UAE and UAE was Saudi Arabia. I was wondering why everyone wanted UAE instead of Saudi Arabia :lol:. Sorry, corrected.

Bosnia-Herzegovina? It's nice, but, as said before in this thread, Europe will be overcrowded. I don't know, I will see.

BiH would be cool to play as; you'd have EUFOR troops in the Country and wow! Hey I got an idea! I need to make/find a OSCE observer unit!

You can struggle with B&H all you wan`t, but you shouldn`t be able to win any type of victory with them, even in a what-if scenario. Same with all other former Yugoslav Republics..

What? BiH could win a ah.........your right; I hate to say it but I don't thik BiH or and of Former Jugoslav Republics could win; maybe Serbia and Montenegro could?

Mirc, have you played World 2005? (or was it 2004? :hmm: )

In their current state or the direction they are going in? They couldn`t conquer a zoo, let alone a region ;)

It was something called (I think) World 2005. But I haven't played it and anyway IIRC it was a little different.

"In their current state or the direction they are going in? They couldn`t conquer a zoo, let alone a region :)"--Stormrage; That is funny :lol: What does IIRC mean?

If I Remember Correctly.

If I Recall Correctly.
Or If I Remember Correctly.

Edit: Crosspost

ADD ROMANIA:woohoo:-:woohoo:WOOOT:woohoo:. We will conquer the world. :evil:

But...but...it's a SCENARIO :cry: , and i can't play scenarios :cry:. I have a 3P computer. (Prehistoric-Paddle-Powered computer)
Now i'll have to find some other way to conquer the world.:(

Yeah, I have the same problem :(. Too slow computer :(....

"You say that Romania can't conquer the world?"
"No, they've all got too slow computers. BTW, what do you say about a computer embargo against them?"
"Great idea, we must stop them taking over the world!"
:D

I on behalf of the US use the Security Council Veto power to stop that. Why the world does Serbia still have sanactions?

Maybe you could call the scenario "The Dawn of the 3rd Millenium" it sounds a bit nicer than "beggining" (because this word if too long:)).
Just a sugestion. :)

But if you do, please make sure you spell "millennium" correctly...

:lol:
Here it is:
THE DAWN OF THE IIIrd MILLENNIUM!

Any other ideas anyone? I'm thinking of using one of the maps with larger Europe, because there are many civs from there. Or should I use a normal huge world map?

I progressed a lot with the graphics for this.


Can anyone give ideas for the tech tree? I accept anything, since I have nothing. At least a good tech name would nice.

And what should I do with the territories that aren't belonging to any of the important civs here? Should I make an "Other" civ to get all those lands? Or let them empty? Or divide them between the important civs?

Is nobody reading this? Or nobody has anything to say?