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Feb 18, 2002, 02:22 PM
I have read many threads saying that one civ is the best and then yet another thread saying another civ is the best. It's time we figured out which civ popular opinion says is the best and not just a single person.
Feb 18, 2002, 02:36 PM
Well, I voted Babylon, but a lot depends on the type of game you want to play.
Babylon will rock for a culture win.
France with the production bonus is great for a space race / late game move.
Persia is great for an early military game.
So, the best depends on your goals.
However, some of them do bite...
Feb 18, 2002, 03:15 PM
I voted Egypt but India or Iroquois could have taken my vote as well. The religious civs have a big advantage with those cheap temples. I voted Egypt as well for the industrial skill.
I've not played Baylon yet. Are they religious and scientific? That could be tough to beat.
Feb 18, 2002, 03:18 PM
I myself voted for Iriquois (at least i think thats how you spell it). I like the Iriqouis the best becuase of a decent offensive UU and It being an Expansionist Civ for the scout.
Feb 18, 2002, 03:21 PM
I like to play as Rome. I dunno why, I just do. I've played every game as Rome. When I get bored with being called Ceasar I'll try another one. Sometimes I customize my civ so that the other civs call me "Marzipan" though hehe.
Feb 18, 2002, 03:26 PM
"Best" is too ill-defined a word. Does best mean "best chance to win on deity on a tiny archipalego map?" Does best mean "most fun to win with a domination victory on a huge pangea chieftan?" Best builder? Best UU? ???
It's just impossible, IMO, to talk about "best" without more clearly defining the parameters. World size, in particular, greatly influences the value of the "expansionist" characteristic.
The new things coming out of goodie huts (armies? ICBMs? Gonna pop a hut and get a great leader next?) means that the patch may well make a change, too. The difference in retreat percent between veteran and elite (is it 50% and 60%) changes the value of militaristic civs, too.
All-in-all, there are way too many variables to get a really good answer to this, especially now. Of course, the usual caveats about YMMV apply to this, too, but....
P.S. I also think this belongs in the strategy threads, not the story one....
Feb 18, 2002, 08:33 PM
I never said the best civ. At least if i did i meant favorite civ to play nothing else.
Earl Of Chester
Feb 19, 2002, 02:46 PM
EDIT:The Thread is titled favourite Civ
As Arathorn said there are too many vairiables so I voted my favourite civ France.... the industrious Civs are just a lot faster to play with and the commercial benefit helps expansion and means those far off conquered lands are a little bit more useful.
I think the least used Civ would be the Aztecs as they have the same charecteristics as the Japanese yet the Jaguar Warrior is a far less useful UU than the Samauri although it does speed up scouting a bit.
Feb 19, 2002, 03:01 PM
Personally I like to go with Egypt. Religious is my favourite trait both for the fast change of government, but also the half price temples and cathedrals. The second trait of industrious is also great as I can quickly get my land in shape. The extra shield is also good at until I reach industrial age. My secondary civs must be India and Babylon. I will have to test some expansionist now that the patch is out though.
Earl Of Chester
Feb 19, 2002, 03:06 PM
I always find the expansionist Civs the worst to play against. The rate they settle in the territory u want is frightening soemtimes and always irritating. And playing as France you get stuck with all the expansionist Europian Civs.....
Feb 22, 2002, 01:35 AM
personally i love to play as russia, although i experiment with others. I don't like to play as the Aztecs, who would?, but i think it's hilarious to play against them. their just.... i dunno funny. the Aztecs for some reason seem constantly less deserving of my respect every time we start to deal, they havn't once whenever i've pllayed against them become a world shaking power, they end up always depending on a bigger freind, it's so pathetic you've just gotta love it.
Feb 22, 2002, 02:11 AM
Industrious civs are my absolute favorites. Egypt, Persia, America, China, France, I almost never stray from this short list of civs unless I've got something special in mind. Being able to build the Pyramids from the very beginning, cleaning pollution in flatlands with 2 workers, it's great.
I've noticed that most games that don't end in an Ancient or Medieval conquest are won (directly in the case of space victories, indirectly for Industrial/modern conquests) because your civ builds infrastructure (road nets, mines, irrigation, rails, buildings) with an enormous worker army while the AI just sort of sits around with a handful of workers and half-developed cities. I'm so used to playing with the Industrious civs that it really bothers me when I'm playing as someone like Russia or Japan or Germany, who I'd really like to get into, but their lack of Industriousness makes me get bored with them sometime in the late ancient era. Among the Industrious civs, I picked Egypt for the poll since Religious is my second-favorite attribute (though it does mean that the Pyramids trigger your Golden Age a bit early, then again, so do War Chariots). A close second would be Persia because of Immortals (which can even win most of the time versus cavalry if you make sure you're attacking and not defending, it's cheap muscle that's good for 5000 years).