View Full Version : Beta HOF Update-April 10th, 2006
Dianthus Apr 10, 2006, 06:21 PM The Civilization IV Hall of Fame has been updated. 77 games were accepted since the previous update.
Congratulations to Bozso77 for the highest score of the update with a Huge Immortal Domination game for 362436 points.
Miraculix was the most active player during this update, submitting 12 games.
Only 3 players were brave enough to take on Deity this update:
Bram specialized in Diplo games, with a 1276 AD for Duel, 1196 AD for Tiny and 1148 AD for Small.
godotnut specialized in Cultural, with a 1402 AD Small and a 1458 AD Standard.
Shadowsong submitted a 40 AD Large Deity Conquest game for 324796 points.
The Gauntlet (BG VIII (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=164726)), which involved winning via Diplomacy after nuking, was won convincingly by Wastin Time in 1380 AD with Conquestador in 2nd place with 1800 AD and pavelthesecond in 3rd place with 1896 AD.
The next Gauntlet (BG IX (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=166632)) is an Archipelago conquest with some interesting opponents.
Kalleyao Apr 11, 2006, 02:44 AM Shadowsong submitted a 40 AD Large Deity Conquest game for 324796 points.
A conquest victory on Large Deity? :eek: Wow! Great game. :goodjob:
A_Turkish_Guy Apr 11, 2006, 04:34 AM A conquest victory on Large Deity? :eek: Wow! Great game. :goodjob:
that is a great job but he used anarchy exploid.:rolleyes: .
but Bozso77's immortal game is much more better than this.no anarchy exploid.:goodjob:
what is wrong with that player log??
http://hof.civfanatics.net/civ4/game_info.php?show=playerlog&entryID=1517
Kalleyao Apr 11, 2006, 06:29 AM But the differnce between immortal and deity is huge. an extra settler in deity.
Bozso Apr 11, 2006, 11:59 AM that is a great job but he used anarchy exploid.:rolleyes: .
but Bozso77's immortal game is much more better than this.no anarchy exploid.:goodjob:
Thank you. I have never used anarchy exploit, but I used (unfortunately) the default number of player settings. With less AI the domination limit would have benn higher and I would have beeen abel to achieve at least 100K+.
Anyway I will only play again with CIV IV when the pernamment HOF is ready.
Dianthus Apr 11, 2006, 12:34 PM ... but I used (unfortunately) the default number of player settings. With less AI the domination limit would have benn higher and I would have beeen abel to achieve at least 100K+.
The domination limit isn't fixed, it changes during the game as the number of players left alive decreases. By the time you finished you only had 3 opponents left alive, so your domination limit was probably at the maximum!
Kalleyao Apr 11, 2006, 02:10 PM that is a great job but he used anarchy exploid.:rolleyes: .
but Bozso77's immortal game is much more better than this.no anarchy exploid.:goodjob:
Can you compare these two games? One is milking the other is quick finish (I think). Also, as I mentioned, they are on different difficulties as well as maps.
A_Turkish_Guy Apr 12, 2006, 05:55 AM Can you compare these two games? One is milking the other is quick finish (I think). Also, as I mentioned, they are on different difficulties as well as maps.
i am not talking about the score and the diffuculty level.playing style is that i mentioned.with anarchy exploid you just capture the cities without gold problem but other game you have to be very carefull for the gold.just try it for yourself.you can see the differences between them.
Kalleyao Apr 12, 2006, 07:07 AM i am not talking about the score and the diffuculty level.playing style is that i mentioned.with anarchy exploid you just capture the cities without gold problem but other game you have to be very carefull for the gold.just try it for yourself.you can see the differences between them.
Personally I don't care if anyone use any exploits. A win is a win. After ticking no cheat mode unless you hack the game, I don't think anything is exploit. Simply because the AI could do the same strategy.
Moonsinger Apr 12, 2006, 08:17 AM Personally I don't care if anyone use any exploits. A win is a win.
I concur!:thumbsup: Especially, winning a deity on large or huge map isn't easy. IMO, if anyone can win using the anarchy exploits, they can surely win without using the anarchy exploits. It's really the same thing, except for a slight increase in score. Unless you are playing for the score and/or fast domination, the anarchy exploit doesn't really give any benefit.
Shadowsong Apr 12, 2006, 10:05 AM Personally I don't care if anyone use any exploits. A win is a win. After ticking no cheat mode unless you hack the game, I don't think anything is exploit. Simply because the AI could do the same strategy.
Good point:clap:, if anarchy exploit was easy to master, the tables would have been full. :rolleyes: But there is currently only one entry (mine) in Large Deity Conquest which indicates that anarchy exploit isn't for everyone. :nono: I think anarchy is currently the only way of winning a valid HOF entry for Large Deity Conquest.
I concur!:thumbsup: Especially, winning a deity on large or huge map isn't easy.
I agree, Conquest on Large/Huge Deity is very hard.
Unless you are playing for the score and/or fast domination, the anarchy exploit doesn't really give any benefit.
I was just playing for a Large Deity Conquest victory, since that table was empty. After a few tries I thought it was impossible but I finally discovered a tactic to pull off the victory. :smoke:
godotnut Apr 12, 2006, 11:00 PM The peaceful builders never get any love! :mischief:
But seriously, nice job to everyone who submitted. It takes dedication, knowing that this is more or less a temporary board!
Kalleyao Apr 13, 2006, 06:19 AM I concur!:thumbsup: Especially, winning a deity on large or huge map isn't easy. IMO, if anyone can win using the anarchy exploits, they can surely win without using the anarchy exploits. It's really the same thing, except for a slight increase in score. Unless you are playing for the score and/or fast domination, the anarchy exploit doesn't really give any benefit.
I agree, Conquest on Large/Huge Deity is very hard.
Good to see that we share the same opinions.
Shadowsong Apr 14, 2006, 08:08 AM I'll start on a Huge Deity Conquest/Domination tomorrow.
Kalleyao Apr 14, 2006, 08:09 AM I'll start on a Huge Deity Conquest/Domination tomorrow.
Good luck.
Moonsinger Apr 14, 2006, 09:31 AM I'll start on a Huge Deity Conquest/Domination tomorrow.
Are you going to try it with patch 1.61? Now that the patch is out, I think I will try going for huge deity domination too. It will be a glorious victory or died in trying. Good luck!
A_Turkish_Guy Apr 14, 2006, 11:53 AM for standart map i won 2 domination games with the previous patch.i tried huge but i am not ready for it.lets try it with the new patch.:D :D :crazyeye:
Shadowsong Apr 15, 2006, 02:50 AM Good luck!
Good luck.
Thanks,:thanx: I'll need it.
Are you going to try it with patch 1.61? Now that the patch is out, I think I will try going for huge deity domination too. It will be a glorious victory or died in trying.
Good to see you back :) , the HOF Deity competition started to become boring. Anyway, I'll use patch 1.52 for this game. The new patch makes it a lot harder with chopping output reduced and other changes. :(
I'm currently researching team_battleground, left vs right, start anywhere. My goal is to conquer my half of the continent and get PA with any AI on the other continent with enough land to give me a domination win. :crazyeye:
RemoWilliams Apr 15, 2006, 02:55 AM Are you going to try it with patch 1.61? Now that the patch is out, I think I will try going for huge deity domination too. It will be a glorious victory or died in trying. Good luck!
Just FYI - 1.61 is not valid for the HOF.... yet.
I'm not sure if they'll accept games that are started before 1.61 is legal for HOF, after it becomes legal. I would guess they probably will, but who knows?
Moonsinger Apr 15, 2006, 05:21 PM Just FYI - 1.61 is not valid for the HOF.... yet.
I'm not sure if they'll accept games that are started before 1.61 is legal for HOF, after it becomes legal. I would guess they probably will, but who knows?
Thanks!:) I know. I'm just doing some practice games for fun...and to test out new tactic in 1.61.
Shadowsong Apr 16, 2006, 06:56 AM After some research I've finally decided what settings I'm going to use for Huge Domination. :) I'm not sure if my tactic will work, the start position must be perfect. If it works I'll win easily, no PA necessary but regenerating a lot of maps. :)
Kalleyao Apr 16, 2006, 01:52 PM After some research I've finally decided what settings I'm going to use for Huge Domination. :) I'm not sure if my tactic will work, the start position must be perfect. If it works I'll win easily, no PA necessary but regenerating a lot of maps. :)
Is Huge Domination even possible?
Shadowsong Apr 17, 2006, 03:59 AM Is Huge Domination even possible?
Deity Huge Domination is not any problem, it is the number of AI's that trouble the player. I've already won a Deity Huge Domaintion game but that was against two AI's (team_battleground). I've discovered a strategy that theoretically would work against 6 AI's, but I have no desire in trying that because it would take too much time :coffee:. (Lots of map regeneration) :badcomp:
Kalleyao Apr 17, 2006, 04:35 AM Deity Huge Domination is not any problem, it is the number of AI's that trouble the player. I've already won a Deity Huge Domaintion game but that was against two AI's (team_battleground). I've discovered a strategy that theoretically would work against 6 AI's, but I have no desire in trying that because it would take too much time :coffee:. (Lots of map regeneration) :badcomp:
A strategy? Seems complicated to me :D . And I understand that regenrating maps isn't fun. :(
Denniz Apr 17, 2006, 04:46 AM And I understand that regenrating maps isn't fun. :(
It is better that exiting to the menu and starting a new game. The biggest pain was the lack of the a new 4000bc save. That was fixed in 1.61.
Shadowsong Apr 17, 2006, 09:20 AM A strategy? Seems complicated to me :D .
Nah, it's rather the opposite, very simple. ;)
Kalleyao Apr 17, 2006, 11:50 AM Nah, it's rather the opposite, very simple. ;)
Will you reveal it?
Shadowsong Apr 19, 2006, 09:54 AM A strategy? Seems complicated to me :D . And I understand that regenrating maps isn't fun. :(
I won Huge Domination easily by giving myself a perfect start with the world builder. Now I'm done with patch 1.52, and I've already made up my strategy for patch 1.61 Huge Domination victory.
Kalleyao Apr 19, 2006, 10:17 AM Now I'm done with patch 1.52, and I've already made up my strategy for patch 1.61 Huge Domination victory.
Maybe you should wait until the permanent HoF arrives? With all rules set I might also submit.
Shadowsong Apr 19, 2006, 11:28 AM Maybe you should wait until the permanent HoF arrives? With all rules set I might also submit.
Yeah, that would be more efficient for submissions, good advice :thumbsup:. Alright, I'll wait for the permanent HoF and the Quarter Masters, until then I won't submit again :). Btw I haven't seen any games from you so far in the HoF, what difficulty do you play? Deity :mischief:? I need some competence :rolleyes:.
Kalleyao Apr 19, 2006, 12:06 PM Btw I haven't seen any games from you so far in the HoF
I don't play beta. :p
,what difficulty do you play? Deity :mischief:? I need some competence :rolleyes:.
Monarch. :blush: I'm no expert. :(
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