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Gaias Apr 14, 2006, 01:35 AM Well this is my first submitted unit and I am fairly proud of the way it turn out. It is based off of utahjazz7 Spanish Pikeman that he uses as example in his unit creation tutorial. Hopefully this is the first of many more to come! ;)
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6457/sskirfirstpreview1od.gif (http://imageshack.us)
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3206/sskirsecondpreview3eo.gif (http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3206/sskirsecondpreview3eo.gif)
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First rule of thumb to posting a unit, is to have the unit uploaded... :p
Second rule of thumb is to make sure the file that is being uploaded is of the correct size... :lol:
William GBTW Apr 14, 2006, 01:37 AM Its great; not a Hikaro level thing but GREAT for first try! I got a request.
COAtlantis1745 Apr 14, 2006, 01:56 AM Welcome to the wide wide world of Unit design Gaias! This is a very-well done re-interpretation of the Spanish Pikeman.
I am pleased to hear that your electing to take up ancient/medieval units. If your considering doing unit design for the Bronze Age, that would be most awesome!
Again, well done! :goodjob:
LizardmenRule! Apr 14, 2006, 08:42 AM Need i repeat what i said in the preview thread? :D
great work, gaias :thumbsup:
Colonel Tigh Apr 14, 2006, 10:06 AM Your FIRST unit? I'm impressed. Very very well done.
woodelf Apr 14, 2006, 10:13 AM Great first unit. Keep up the good work.
William GBTW Apr 14, 2006, 10:18 AM This will sound strange but this work has inspired me to press forward with my unit making.
Orthanc Apr 14, 2006, 12:56 PM I must agree, for a first unit this is excellent. Heck, this is a pretty good unit for us regulars, only flaw is that the spear is clipped at the top in a few frames, easily solved though, just use a larger frame size, excess is usually acceptable.
Ozymandias Apr 14, 2006, 02:49 PM Well this is my first submitted unit and I am fairly proud of the way it turn out.
You should be :clap:
Hopefully this is the first of many more to come! ;)
:thumbsup:
Best,
Oz
odintheking Apr 14, 2006, 04:07 PM Really good! I hope you continue making units, :D
Stormrage Apr 14, 2006, 04:10 PM Pretty :) :clap:
Righteous Fist Apr 14, 2006, 07:53 PM Great first unit.:goodjob:
Gaias Apr 14, 2006, 10:46 PM Thanks for all the positive comments, as it give me lots of motivation to produce many quality units. Though most of my units will be fairly generic in look, I plan to start making my own props when I have more experience with animation. For now I am stuck with what has been provided by the community and what is free on the net.
@Orthanc
I was aware of the clipping of the spearhead when I was rendering the frames. I wanted a longer spear (twice the height of the model), but I ran into the clipping issue. I was unaware that you could use an area larger than 100x100, as utahjazz7 makes no mention of this in his tutorial. What is the largest frame that can be used by chance?
odintheking Apr 15, 2006, 08:35 PM 240x240 is the largest.
Snorken Apr 16, 2006, 08:58 AM Excellent first unit, Gaias! :)
Mithadan Apr 16, 2006, 08:50 PM Very glad you decided to post this unit, Gaias. You do Alberta proud!
conquer_dude Apr 16, 2006, 10:00 PM I don't make units, I donwload them. :D So what I see that is great for a starter.
Stormrage May 07, 2006, 12:08 PM Oh how I whish Goldflash was here right now... :shake:
Bluemofia May 07, 2006, 01:51 PM very good unit, i will find some way to use it
You. Are. Done.
very good unit, i will find some way to use it
15 of your posts are exactly this, with minor modifications, such as "units" or adding a smiley face.
And the other 17 aren't much better.
Goldflash May 07, 2006, 11:51 PM Oh how I whish Goldflash was here right now... :shake:
Huh? What? Arg! AAARG! Avast! Pirates! Orks! Pizza! Ricky Carmichael! Arch Delux! I wonder if there was was a World Moto GP race today.
Bluemofia May 08, 2006, 12:25 PM He wanted you to flame cloud strife.
But, Chieftess obliterated his spam posts.
Goldflash May 08, 2006, 01:17 PM Goldflash Flames Nothing.
Seriously. Nothing Sucks and I hate him. I want to shoot his dog. What a jerk.
I like your UFO/Boat/Sombreo Avatar, Blue Mofia.
Stormrage May 08, 2006, 04:33 PM Chieftess rocks :)
I want to be a web-site moderator when I grow up! :bounce:
Oh, wait, too late :cringe:
Oh well, being a playboy will just have to do for now..
Anyway, the spaniard is a great unit, I`m looking for a spot for him in one of my mods (coming soon. 5 years tops!)
Gaias May 13, 2006, 05:15 PM Ummm... I get the feeling I missed something here. :hmm:
I wish I had some more units to post, but I have taken the longer route to unit makeing... from scratch. I have been trying to learn how to work various 3d applications (in what little spare time I have) and have only met with moderate success. Though I have learned a new appreciation for anyone that does this for a living. It is definitely a true art form in itself.
My next two units (if I ever get them done), will be Captain Jack Sparrow, and Red Imperial Guard.
Mithadan May 13, 2006, 10:34 PM I had that feeling too, until I realised there was a stupid post these guys were responding to that was deleted by the time I showed up to read it all.
Ooooh! I can't wait for Captain Jack Sparrow! But of course I will have to wait, and maybe I'll wait forever, seeing how you may never finish it. I wish you the best of luck and Godspeed, of course, if that does any good. :D
Plotinus May 14, 2006, 03:48 AM I was thinking it would be fun to make Captain Jack Sparrow. But I don't think my posing skill is sufficient to capture his very idiosyncratic movements! I mean, just think of the fidget...
Mithadan May 14, 2006, 08:35 PM Sheesh, yeah, animating him would be crazy.
utro43 Jun 25, 2006, 06:50 PM oh yes!!!!
i think i can use this in my celtic mod!!!
Goldflash Jun 26, 2006, 01:28 PM Gaias... where did you go?
Stormrage Jun 26, 2006, 01:51 PM He was here yesterday, says so in his profile. Maybe he is preparing a huge unit pack? ;)
Goldflash Jun 26, 2006, 02:07 PM That would be splendid.
Gaias Jun 26, 2006, 08:48 PM I didn't go anywhere....:p I mean really how long can anyone stay away from CivFanatics? Seriously?
Actually I have had some computer problems (READ: the damn thing died on me! :mad: ). So all I have is a really really old comp that I am barely able to play CivIII on, let along run a graphics program.
I have been able to gain access to a more powerful computer at the local college, as it has 3ds max on it. Though I am only able to have a few hours on it, so I am not too productive when it comes to learning the 3D arts.
Funny thing is, I am hoping to get into an art institute to do this for a living. Problem is that I cannot seem to find enough money to pay for the damn tution!!! Stupid greedy private schools! :mad:
I am in the process of converting a few unit from Rome Total War, as they are easier to do that create my own. WHEN I can afford to get a computer that will run a peice of software with decency, then I will continue on creating units.
Stormrage Jun 26, 2006, 09:32 PM Its great to have you back :) Both your Poser units and RTW converisons show much promise! :thumbsup:
Heptadelphoi Jan 04, 2007, 01:44 AM I am sorry to open an old thread, i opened this same post in general discussion forum but Admin told me better do it on post i downloaded file, and here i am, excuse me please.
My problem is Spanish Skirmisher unit which, when i install in my game, u can see like this picture i show u:
http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pjzF2-RYhxRWI_y5UY0z8SqGxE1QLre5dSHObjJmJiEFuKRRVxHckd1r fKVwWDzoCX4Ge9Y8G6wGvhUEwzBbuOgp4T4o4UaRWmW6eJxQ8S KPEX16rvxP3hw
Problem is u can see, a square surrounding unit, i would like to have a clean unit about this.
If someone, or the same unit artist maker can help me i would be very grateful, it is an excellent unit.
Thanks and good morning, :)
Stormrage Jan 04, 2007, 09:31 AM Hmm.. I think DarkSheer had this problem with his x-bowman unit, dunno how he solved it tho..
odintheking Jan 04, 2007, 09:56 AM It's the pink color Gaias used for the background. Instead of picking the last color in the palette, he used one of the shadow colors, so the area around the unit is perpetually shadow. Just change the last color of the palette to the one in the background, :).
cemo1956 Jul 06, 2007, 04:44 PM Sorry to bump,
but I didn't notice this color problem until I inserted him in my mod.
I'm not sure how to fix it, so if someone did could it be to much to ask if this unit could be uploaded again FIXED from this problem
Heptadelphoi Jul 08, 2007, 12:00 AM cemo i couldnt get a fixed one yet (and look date of my last post) so it has been forgotten for me til now i saw your post, really i dont know anybody who has a fixed spanish skirmisher, stormrage and odintheking tried to help me but i am a noob as well as modifying units, i hope somebody can help us in the end uploading it. Good luck!
BadKharma Jul 08, 2007, 01:25 AM The problem is the actual unit creator should upload a fixed version, unfortunately I dont think he visits anymore.
Plotinus Jul 08, 2007, 04:01 AM Anyone could fix it: you need to export the storyboards in Flicster, replace the backgrounds with the last colour on the palette, and then turn them back into flics. Not difficult, just a bit tedious.
This does, however, demonstrate the importance of testing your creations in-game before posting them.
cemo1956 Jul 08, 2007, 05:15 PM Anyone could fix it: you need to export the storyboards in Flicster, replace the backgrounds with the last colour on the palette, and then turn them back into flics. Not difficult, just a bit tedious.
This does, however, demonstrate the importance of testing your creations in-game before posting them.
Now weīre talking unit creator language.... But for starters I look at flc-files in Civ3FlcEdt so since I'm very lazy I still don't see where I get a Storyboard from. Is that just in Flicster or what...
I give it a try if no-one beat me to it...
Plotinus Jul 09, 2007, 02:45 AM Use Flicster. Load up the flic. Click the Export tab. Click Export. This creates four new files: a pcx storyboard, two palettes, and a storyboard info file. Open the pcx. Change all the purple background to the correct colour. Go back to Flicster and open the storyboard. Export it as a flic. Voila. Repeat for each animation.
Bjornlo Jul 09, 2007, 03:06 AM You can use either Flicster or Civ3FlcEdit to fix the background color. Either way, just follow the advice Plotinus gave you (with the tool of your choice).
cemo1956 Jul 09, 2007, 06:26 AM This beats me.
Export and create Storyboards worked fine. Then I opened the pcx file in Paint Shop Pro X and the background was pink.
I did the same with your African Javelineer. Both looked the same. So where is the mistake. Your african hasnīt got any shadow backgrounds.
I guess I lost the issue inside the pcx-file.
Canīt find any palettes or anything. Just a fine picture like this
Plotinus Jul 09, 2007, 08:26 AM It's not working because you haven't ensured that the background is the last colour in the palette. It doesn't matter what shade it actually looks like, but which pallete index it is using. You need to use Fill Replace, or whatever the equivalent is in your paint program, to do this. You can check by opening the palette and turning that index into bright blue or something like that, and then maintain the existing palette indexes. If the background turns blue then it's the right index.
Here it is, corrected, so that you can see.
Bjornlo Jul 09, 2007, 10:28 AM You also need to make certain that the color used ONLY appears in the first/last color of the palette.
Paintshop Pro shows it one way, Photoshop the other. As I recall photoshop has them in the first color position in the palette while Paintshop has it in the last.
cemo1956 Jul 12, 2007, 04:58 AM Thanks gents,
BUT after looking over my PSP program how palettes works I have to throw in the towel. Sad, it was a nice unit, but don't get this color business.
Hopefully someone will use it in their mod AND be able to fix the shadow.
Heck I managed once (years ago) to recenter a unit, but that easier. I did the Meiji Rifleman and did post it in the old thread for all to DL.
I don't think old creators mind if one correct an obvious fault. The creators in many cases could even be long gone....
best to you and thanks for your directives.
Cemo
odintheking Jul 12, 2007, 09:52 AM This would be extremely easy for me to do, but my modding computer is broken... when it gets fixed, I can fix this guy.
Keroro Jul 12, 2007, 12:43 PM I did have a go myself, but I think that I did something wrong. It didn't work properly. I'd be happy to use it if fixed. :)
odintheking Jul 12, 2007, 07:07 PM Look, here's what you do; open the storyboard, change the border to the same purple being used in the box around the dude. Then pick the last color in the palette and fill it all in.
Leaven Jul 12, 2007, 09:49 PM Ok, so after watching this thread in lurker mode for the past few days and lazily hoping someone else would to the work and fix this great unit I decided to actually contribute something to the community. So here it is, the Spanish Skirmisher sans shadow box:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/80340/Spanish_Skirmisher_corrected.zip
Actually I meant to fix this for personal use awhile ago, but never got around to it before now. Hope you can get some use from it now.
Keroro Jul 13, 2007, 03:39 AM @ Odin - That's what I did, I think. It didn't work. :crazyeye: I must have done something wrong I guess. I normally don't have any problems with pallattes.
@ Leaven - Thanks. :) I'll download when I get home. Nice one.
cemo1956 Jul 14, 2007, 03:59 PM many thanks Leaven.
Itīs not easy with severals thumbs in the middle of the hand as myself.
Mithadan Jul 15, 2007, 07:39 PM Thanks Leaven!!! :D
Yoda Power Jul 19, 2007, 02:16 AM Good work Leaven.
Maybe Plotinus could add it to the first post. :)
Plotinus Jul 19, 2007, 03:25 AM Gaias was last active a month ago, so if he doesn't change it himself in a while I'll do it.
Keroro Jul 19, 2007, 04:10 AM So he was, and he didn't say hello. I imagine that he's keeping a low profile so that Taskmasters and people like me don't try to pressure him into more RTW unit conversions. :mischief:
I always liked this unit, though I don't think that Gaias was particularly proud of it - and now that the pallatte is fixed I'll be sure to use it.
odintheking Jul 19, 2007, 10:15 AM Aye, for the same reason that Kinboat didn't post when he was here on Sunday.
Virote_Considon Jul 20, 2007, 11:07 AM That's creepy. The thought of Kinboat on the forums for whatever reason came across my mind the other day. It was a strangely specific thought...
odintheking Jul 20, 2007, 11:10 AM Maybe you saw "Kinboat" on the active user page? ;)
Virote_Considon Jul 20, 2007, 11:17 AM I doubt it. I was busy on Sunday, so I was only paying attention to certain threads, and not everything, like I normally do...
Stormrage Jul 20, 2007, 12:04 PM Well this has got to be the most popular unit evar! Its been at the top since like.. last October or something!
Teh bug is fixed, everyone go home. Kinboat was probably just bored out of his mind, Sundays can do that to people..
Stormy complains about spam...]
Heptadelphoi Jul 22, 2007, 03:23 PM Finally thanks for remake this unit that i have been waiting for a long time, thank you all civfanatic forum for to be worried about it. :)
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