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Turn 1 has arrived in our gmail account. Unfortunately I can't play it as I can still see floodplains where I shouldn't with 1.61. :cry:

Just to get things rolling.. I have the save...

Drop on the spot, warrior to the SW along the hills. Keep him on the diagonal but either on hills or on trees if you can.

I'll also take a nice screenie



EDIT:: On second though, after opening the save, I noticed that we still need to figure out what the first build is and also what to research.. Since Civ4 isn't like civ3 and you can't transfer builds then I think that we need to figure out what path to take.

Got it, see the Internal Affairs thread for details

T1 played. See Turnplay Log for details

Has the save been forwarded to the next team yet? We need to post in the save tracker thread in the MTDG forum if it has.

Don't forget to post in the Turn Tracker thread - some people subscribe to that thread and wait for updates, so if you don't post, they're left out of the loop. Bede, can you just make a quick post there, or rather, anyone from Piffle? Thanks!

I've checked the gmail account and the save's in the sent items folder so I guess it's gone. I'll post in the turn tracker thread.

I have the save.. so this thing can move a little quicker... Nothing new except moving the warrior should be the only thing to do.

I have turn 3. Just moving the warrior around and keeping the save moving

turn 4 will be turned around quickly again

turn 5 won't stop in Piffle. wow this is fast!!!

We need to think about where to move the warrior next. It appears as though we have some tundra to the south.

Should we 1) go East or 2) go west young man?

I vote for east.

I'm not sure if the NE is just an outcropping, we could be settled on an inland lake, I'm not sure.

Also, I would love to see if the river breaks into Floodplains (maybe turning north and emptying into the open water) with some stone and/or marble nearby.

The river loops. It comes from and goes to the west. it does appear to be brownish just inside the fog to the west. The east appears to be just grassland.

T6 is in the bin. I'll take it.

T6 played and sent. Warrior went west to hill.

See Internal Affairs for screenshot

T7 is up. I'll take it.

Scratch all that, I lost track of the "Daves". T8 should be in some time today, though.

I've tried it and gmail will nicely forward messages using filters. I've set one up to forward to my e-mail and the last few saves have successfully arrived in my own in-box, not that I can actually play it though - with that river there are bound to be floodplains that would stand out like beacons. It might be easier for regular players to have it automatically forward to them as well rather than having to go to gmail all the time.

Well, I think I'm going to go ahead and "got it" just to contribute more than meaningless diatribe :)

turn 8 played and sent -- updating relevant posts with the new info

Turn 9 to Piffle.

It's in and I'll take it.

Played, sent and tracked

being last in soldiers makes sense since most people will ALWAYS build a warrior

T10 is in and Bede has it

T10 to Aloha

T11 is in and Bede has it.

How many turns are we into our research? I notice that hut and was wondering if it's better to pop after our tech is learned to possibly get a new one for free.

I don't think that it'll give us one that we are researching. but any help would be good :)

Actually, it can. I've popped techs that I was only 2T from researching :sad:

I have as well and it worked well by popping it right after the research was done.

The warrior needs to heal a bit before hitting the hut anyway. I'd hate to lose Bubba to either barbs or a lion.

Have we still got the save? According to the turn tracker thread we've had it around 22 hours.

yes.. there is no record of turn 12 being sent. Can anyone grab it in the next 2 hours?

Bede has it. I missed this one last night.

I can't play until 6 hours from now at least... go ahead Bede.

T12 in the bin.

T13 is in the Gmail box, and I can't take it tonight, or in the morning. It is due 12:45PM on Saturday afternoon.

Can you spend a half hour, Tubs, or pin, or g-man?

got it

just so you guys know, I won't be available pretty much until Wednesday or Thursday of this coming week

T14 has come around and I'll have it this afternoon.

T15 is in and due in four hours so it's mine.

T16 is in and I'll take it.

by the looks of the map, it seems that sirian really wants us to settle SW and W :lol:

T17 is at 6:38PM EDT. Will take it tomorrow PM unless somebody else wants it.

T18 was in at 12:05PM EDT. I'll take it

Where have all the people gone, Bede?

There here, just waiting for something to happen.

shh, we're sleeping. gotta save our energy for the big stuff :sleep:

T19 is in. Bede has it.

T20 is in and Bede has it.

Ask and you shall receive. T21 is in and he who wants it gets it.

I'm back from my hiatus... I could play a turn here and there to give you a break, Bede. but I'm at work now

Got it. First time, so here goes nothing...

T22 is in. I got it.

T23 is in the mailbox.

@Sweetacshon, g-man, or the rest of the band: all welcome to play a round. Due back 11:30AM Saturday and I'm working late tonight and early tomorrow.

OK, I'll take it.

T24 is in. I think we need to decide next steps before it gets played

g-man and TGOM have conferred so here is the plan:

Suggested build order after worker finishes:
warrior->warrior->settler->worker->lighthouse

Worker actions: farm the corn, mine a hill.

Research: Wheel->?


The save is in and has to be handed back by 11:30AM EDT Monday, 5/29, so someone who is on holiday tomorrow can take it (Bede's gotta go sell comic books to the beach goers).

T24 - I've got it.

Suggested build order after worker finishes:
warrior->warrior->settler->worker->lighthouse

Worker actions: farm the corn, mine a hill.

Research: Wheel->?


Sound fine to me as well. The save is in (but I don't have time right now to play it), come on lucky copper deposit!

Bede has it

I've got it - it's about time I made an effort with this game. It's the first time I've loaded the save, so I'll check it out a bit and let you know how I get on.

Welcome Oldbus. :salute:

Save's in and due today at 12:30PM EDT. I just saw it and can't get it in the morning. Perhaps a European team member?

OK I got it.

T28 is in and I gots it

Bede I moved a tile to commerce so you may want to move it back.

T29 is in and I got it

T30 in and got it

I have T31.

I have T32.

I have T33

Turn 34 in and I've got it

Oldbus, you didnt post in the turn tracker thread (I did it this time).

Aaargh :blush:

T35 was in and I got it

I have turn 36.

Turn 37 is mine.

I'll take turn 38.

Turn 39 arrived 22 hours or so ago, can anyone take it? I still have visible floodplains problems so shouldn't really play until we have explore the map....

i probably cannot play for another 4 hrs. I will post an extension request on the turntracker thread so people don't get pissy with us.

OK I got it.

Turn 40 ! ! :D (I've got it)

I've got Turn 41...

Turn 42. Got it, played it.

I have 43.

T44 is mine.

....and T45

Got turn 46 (and a message from Epsilon which I'll post once I've played the turn).

Turn 47, I have it.

I have Turn 48.

Turn 49 is in, I'll take it unless you want it Grahamiam - being online and all.

yeah, but i'm at work ;) No Civ for me!

Got turn 50.

hmm.. it looks like buddhism and hinduism have already been founded. would roading to the river for future trade routes be a good idea?

Turn 51 in and I've got it

The save is in... actually it is overdue by 12 hours I think. Sorry, I can't really play it. I have exams over the next week, and 1 in 2 hours :confused:

I'm trying to find the gmail address & password, but I think that info is in some of our old & deleted posts!!! We really need to sticky that stuff, or am I missing it? :confused:

Five minutes later: *smacks self on head* Duh, it was stickied...

Thirty minutes after: played and sent

I'm trying to find the gmail address & password, but I think that info is in some of our old & deleted posts!!! We really need to sticky that stuff, or am I missing it? :confused:

Five minutes later: *smacks self on head* Duh, it was stickied...

Thirty minutes after: played and sent:lol: I enjoyed reading that pindicator

Turn 53 is mine.

Turn 54 is in and I've got it

Oldbus can you see if "The Leader" has open borders. I forgot last turn.

We can offer it if you want

I'm not sure we should until we have an agreement in place. I would just check it for now because it will tell us where they got the culture boost from.

It's late now as I've saved the game, but how can you tell if they've got Open Borders with anyone else? They haven't got OB with us, although they are able to offer it to us.

We can't tell regarding someone else however it tells us they have writing and possibly a library and that's why they got culture bump from. I'd guess they're already on their way towards alpha.

Well I'm glad that I didn't argue to go the Alpha route instead of letting them do it. I had a pretty weak arguement for it, but that's moot now.

Don't open borders until we have a definate trade route or are within sight of their borders. OB will only benefit them until one of those two cases are met.

Turn 55 is in and I've got it.

T56 is in and I've got it.

turn 57 is in, and almost 24hrs, so I'll take it.

Turn 58 is in. Got it.

Turn 59 is up. Anyone got it? I would, but my medication doesn't allow for the operation of heavy machery or playing turns on MTDG...:twitch:

Bah Booti. I got it.

oopps wrong thread :blush:

Whomp asked in the turn log if the GH should be popped with the warrior that is 1.2 standing next to it. My thoughts are yes.

Can anyone grab the save? I can't get it around 4:30 CST and will request an extension if no one else grabs it by 2 CST.

I'll see when I get home, but it might be good to ask for the extension anyway.

I'll take it.

I've got the save.

I have it.

I've got the save.

Hi everyone..one...one....one.....

I got it..it...it....it
;)

I might be able to help you if I could get away with civ4 @ work :p

Hey everyone just a heads up. I'll be gone tomorrow through Sunday. There's a pretty good chance I'll have internet access but just in case I don't please move the save. I'll post here if I have it.

Should Hamburger start another settler next turn? We only have 3 cities and a 4th shouldn't cost too much in corruption.

Is it too soon to go for a wonder now?

edit: sorry, I see you are talking about Hamburger, not the capitol :blush: Maybe a unit and then a settler? If the unit finishes next turn, then I'm fine for a settler :)

we already are going for the Great Light house.. The Leader has (or is going for) the Oracle..

So either way, I think that the answer is no. We have a few cities to help with unit production while the big bulb in the coast is built, so I think that we should be ok.

I think that we need a city on the isthmus soon.

Well, then it seems we should go settler after the current build, unless we are going to grow in the next couple of turns. We may also want an escort for the settler.

The Leader has the Oracle and according to Davemcw they hadn't picked their tech till last turn.

The Great Lighthouse will be 15 turns and we are #1 in Mfg Goods so that should help. Hamburger will finish the rax this turn but still needs the MP (coming from the capital due in 2) so it quells the dissenter. It should have its borders expand over the pigs and copper soon too. Treacle is buidling a warrior as well and may be finished in time to help the settler.

I say going for another city would be wise. And I like the Isthmus build.

I have the save and will report back.

Turn 74-1040 BC--
Treacle Village finishes a warrior and start another due in 4 (or 3 if we work a plains forest tile 1 turn). We'll need an escort for the settler at Hamburger due in 6.

A land bridge? Let's pray to the Great Sirian it is. :worship:
I presume we don't want to pop the hut.
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4476/landbridgeez8.jpg

The forest is chopped at Balderdash by Pind. Sweet moves to the other forest.
If my maths are correct here's how we should do it.
There's 103 :hammers: left.
If we work the forest we get 14 :hammers: per turn and if we work the coast it's 13 :hammers: per turn.
Working the forest for 3 turns would give 42 :hammers:.
or 39 :hammers: if we work the coast.
20 :hammers: for the chop requiring us to move.

A total of 62 :hammers: (41 left) on the forest or 59 :hammers: (44 left) on the coast.
However if we work the forest for 3 and move the citizen to a plains tile for 3 (irrigate the plains tile?....may not use it later so I'll leave it to discuss) it will allow us to maintain 14 :hammers: per turn and finish in 6 versus 7. I'll work the forest then switch to the plains.

Metal is due in 11 but it will be shorter since we will be able to work the coast after GLighthouse is finished. We are stilling cruising on Mfg. Products though "The Leader" spiked here. We are beating "The Leader" in food (just passed them again) and power but losing to them on culture and GNP.

Any thoughts on city placement?

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8285/dotmapeo4.jpg

Here's the demographics which I'll post in Central Intelligents.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5818/demold7.jpg

One idea for settling - get some cash cows in b4 moving west.. this will save on maint and provide a canal. These cities could be moved 1 N also. I included a dot 4 a city that would grab the horse, if we need it.
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One other thing is the copper, should the workers be chopping instead of hooking this up? I suppose we kind of discussed that, but I thought it already was hooked.

I think we can send one of the workers to the copper without a problem. It doesn't seem to matter whether the plains tile is developed or not to finish the GLighthouse.

Personally, I'd really like to get those horses so we can start making horse archers too.

I have the save.

I have the save again. We'll need someone to write something about our great new wonder. I plan to send the settler south and we'll need a final decision on city placement.

We need to make some decisions on settlement and direction of our warriors.
Here's some pics for your viewing pleasure. BTW is anyone interested in playing some turnsets. I don't think I'm our best turnplayer option and would like it if someone with skills could run with this a bit (or tell me what I'm doing wrong)
Landbridge option
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/1329/landbridgejj9.jpg

Southern option
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/586/southcityjg7.jpg

East coast view
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/2554/eastcoastcj2.jpg
West coast view
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4797/westcoastvt9.jpg

Input please. There's also a lot of pictures in the turnplayer and Central Intelligence thread.

I could play, but I wouldn't be able to provide the detail of your logs Whomp. any saves that I play are basically load, play, save, & send due to time constraints.

As far as direction. I think that the isthmus is a must. Maybe not nearly as far as 11, but maybe @ 6.5 first.

I have no problem playing the saves and will load the save to the forum (for Conroe) but I just want to make sure we're all on the same page. Boats, grans, workers,. units, settling, goody huts etc should all be planned out and I'd rather not make the decisions all by my lonesome. :D

Since no one wrote a piece on the Great Lighthouse for the other teams I figure I'd post this.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=4729093#post4729093

Yes I've lost my mind. So what's your point? I'm trying to distract Davemcw and have him start singing songs. :D

you and your songs.. excellent write up

you and your songs.. excellent write up
But you see Tubbalieah dingdong there's a song for everything and they tell the ultimate truth.

Really, it's anything that will throw them off their game. I say singing hydras will freak them out.

I'm not going to play the save until we get some type of confirmation where our next city goes. Please post your thoughts.

Landbridge option
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/1329/landbridgejj9.jpg

Southern option
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/586/southcityjg7.jpg

East coast view
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/2554/eastcoastcj2.jpg
West coast view
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4797/westcoastvt9.jpg

Input please. There's also a lot of pictures in the turnplayer and Central Intelligence thread.

move north Whomp. out of the people who have posted, the majority favor the northern site

North site if the Barbarians can be satiated. We have to send a warrior with the settler so it will take longer to get there. We may have some maintenance cost issues there, but it looks like a good food site (the rice and fish one iirc).

What are we researching after Metal Casting?

Just took a look at the Central Intelligence post and have a suggestion to make. We need to get light on hammers and long on food. We hit the mark with the Lighthouse and as long as we keep pushing in from the coasts it will serve us well for a long time. If we have to take a small detour and research Monarchy to keep our people happy while we grow then so be it, or put everybody on settler/worker training duty until we can get what we need to keep them happy.

I agree the rice/ivory is a great spot, but is really a little isolated right now. What if we grabbed the fish spot on the bend of the isthmus now, and take a few turns to build/whip a galley, settler, and axe for the rice/ivory... also saving on maint for the moment??

I agree. That spot is a long way from home.

Got it (and stuff)

Sweet-- I think switching to library for the chop makes all the sense in the world. Treacle Cottage needs the food.

Regarding The Leader....

We need to think about how we plan to proceed with them. Should we open up discussions on extending peace beyond 1 AD and whether we can negotiate another tech deal?

Got it (late)

Got it.

Yay I can open saves now after a reinstall and cleaning up everything including Windows Prefetch folders and such.

Where is our Great Merchant? I couldnt find him. Also, Twaddle can work a cottage rather than the 1 food 2 hammer forest.

Can we upgrade a mace or two and take out Zapotec?

Kia Ora (aloha) is only 2 galleon moves from Hamburger. Regardless of whether we go to war soon, a war plan would be good. Is there a department of war planning?

Yay I can open saves now after a reinstall and cleaning up everything including Windows Prefetch folders and such.

Where is our Great Merchant? I couldnt find him. Also, Twaddle can work a cottage rather than the 1 food 2 hammer forest.

Can we upgrade a mace or two and take out Zapotec? ?(1) GM burned on Printing Press

(2)Twaddle is working the forest so that the Granary can be whipped in 3 turns (requires 1 turn of starvation).

(3) Zapotec was being used to get free xp on our troops. Take it out whenever.

(4) No cash for upgrades. I was planning on building another mace in Hamburger (after HE) to take out Zapotec. One should suffice.

(5) There is an Axeman outside of Zapotec that needs to move SW to go snag that hut before Aloha's scout gets to it.

(6) The Caravel needs to hang around Epsilon's Settler. Hopefully it can cross the isthmus after Epsilon founds a city.

(7) The Caravel then needs to beeline towards our Warrior outside of Innovia. Do we want to open borders with Innovia?

Oh, one more thing (tm) ...

Epsilon just completed Education. So you will need to execute the PP for Educ trade.

You also need to figure out where to dump our overflow into. I was leaning towards HBR. But, if we revolt, will the game hold the overflow until the next turn? :dunno: That would be better, so that we could dump it into Liberalism.

OK, technically that was 2 more things ...

Wow I dont want to PLAY the save. I just wanted to be a backseat driver and muse on it.

Nukes will be kind of close at the end of our deal with Epsilon. A couple of Scientist lightbulbs to Fission, and build Manhatten until Rocketry (or whatever allows ICBMs) and we stop research/save gold, buy/slave/chop 5-10 nukes, and coordinate this with another pirate battle plan. In other words we nuke the Bejesus out of their biggest cities adn their border towns. Do nukes kill all defenders?

Nukes will be kind of close at the end of our deal with Epsilon. A couple of Scientist lightbulbs to Fission, and build Manhatten until Rocketry (or whatever allows ICBMs) and we stop research/save gold, buy/slave/chop 5-10 nukes, and coordinate this with another pirate battle plan. In other words we nuke the Bejesus out of their biggest cities adn their border towns. Do nukes kill all defenders?

I feel like I endered the conversation halfway through... BUT I LIKE THE CONCLUSION!!! You bring the sunglasses, I'll bring the "Dust in the Wind" LP.