"Beware of Greeks bearing gifts"

** UNIT FINISHED - SEE PAGE 3 FOR DOWNLOAD **


I thought it would be kinda fun to add a Trojan Horse unit to the game. This unit would be a land unit (wheeled) capable of transporting 2-3 foot soldiers (maybe possibly function as an army)
This unit is for ancient times


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heh heh, cool

Is it possible, after loading the units, to have it not show country's flag (like a privateer)? That is, can you really use it to sneak close to an enemy city?

Well you can give it a Hidden Nationality, which is what Privateers have now, but I'm not sure if that would also apply to the units inside. The only thing is, that if it is "colorless" then any other civ's units will attack it if they come across it. And I'm not sure what would happen to the units inside if the horse was attacked or destroyed.

You could give it the submarine ability so others can't see it.

I've read that it has no effect on land units, though I've never tried it myslef.

hidden nat wouldnt suit the horse here.. in civ3, every AI will attack a hidden nat unit...so you wouldnt get anywhere far with it

As a test, I used the editor to make the warrior unit have submarine ability. In the game, i declared war on my neighbor right away. He did not attack my warriors nor could I see his.
Based on these results I think Submarine+Hidden Nationality might be a good combination.

heh, thats pretty cool, it would make for some very interesting wars :D

very nice. can't wait to see it finished. good idea :goodjob:

Originally posted by pesoloco
As a test, I used the editor to make the warrior unit have submarine ability. In the game, i declared war on my neighbor right away. He did not attack my warriors nor could I see his.
Based on these results I think Submarine+Hidden Nationality might be a good combination.

Thank you for that info. I used that ability to great effect in Civ2, but I had read that it no longer worked for land units in Civ 3. It will fit in well with this Sabotuer unit I've added. 2 moves, all terrain as roads, and Airdrop ability, range 8. Though I think maybe Hidden Nationality would be overdoing it. Now I'll have to create a land unit that can spot submarines I suppose.

Yeah, hidden nationality is a bit excessive.

I just thought this might be a fun unit though

Possible Ideas:
- make this a special unit for Greece?

A hilarious idea, but seriously how could you ever use more than one? I know the "AI" is dumb but you're really taking the piss now - I can just see them.

One morning in Babylon
"oh look there's a wooden horse, bring it in Hammurabi!....Aaaaaargh!!"

two days later in the new Capital
"oh look there's a wooden horse, bring it in Hammurabi!....Aaaaaargh!!"

ad infinitum...:lol: :lol: :lol:

Perhaps a small wonder...? I mean after all it is a small wonder that those fools fell for it in the first place!

Go for it Pesoloco!:goodjob:

From this phrase we gain the experssion...

"Beware of greeks bareing gifts".

This should read...

"Beware of Trojans, There a bunch of Morons".

My 2 cents, Unit looks cool, Have to try it. Sub+HN is my vote.

i love it it's a great idea, hilarious.



"Bring it in Hammurabi"
"Wait, Deja'vu"(probley misspelled)
"Shut up we want our horsie!"

almost done. just need to finish up the death animation

Even better, a wooden rabbit that carries units, except that they always forget to get inside, and the enemy catabpults it back at them! Monty Python rules!

But if you go that route, you'll have to change the Catapult's animations so that you can see that they're firing dead cows into a city. Not to mention the Knight's animations, to show some guy behind him clacking coconut shells together.

Good idea! Someone should do that!

Is threadjacking illegal?:D

A catapult firing cows doesnt seem like such a bad idea...... :D As does the knight idea but where would they get the coconuts?????

Well you'd have to build a bird house, and the swallows would bring them.

European swallows? But how could a five ounce bird carry a one pound coconut?

Well if you build some shrubbery, they get extra flight bonuses.

I am going to say "nee" for you both.

Nee, nee, nee

Bring me a tchuberry.


Hahahaha: crazyeyes

Well it looks like it's time for the Holy Hand Grenade.

What is your name?
What is your quest?
What is your favorite color???

Originally posted by tpasmall
What is your name?
What is your quest?
What is your favorite color???

Would that be an RGB colour or a CMYK?

RGB

Say no more. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

To use the HOLY HAND GRENADE OF ANTIOCH, count to three, no more no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out.

Understand son?


Hahahaha

And their was much rejoicing. Yay....

The absurdity of fireing cows from a catapult isnt that far from the truth. Cows might have required the trubechet because of size but Alex the great was know for fireing plague victims corpses over city walls.

Originally posted by Umask077
The absurdity of fireing cows from a catapult isnt that far from the truth. Cows might have required the trubechet because of size but Alex the great was know for fireing plague victims corpses over city walls.

It was a common tactic throughout the whole of the Middle Ages, especially during the Crusades.

why can't we have a monty python/ holy grail Mod it woould rock.
France could have a taunting knight
England could have holy hand grenadiers
Barbarian bunnies?

Yeah, and we could have a Zeppelin unit, with the animation showing little people being tossed out of it. And right when it was in the middle of a battle, an animation would start playing showing an elderly couple having tea. Or after a nuclear blast destroys a city, this little truck would start driving around saying "Sorry for the inconvenience!"

Engand could also have the killer joke, however it consumes 1/2 of the cities population due to inadvertant peeking. It is loaded onto a helicopter and will destroy an entire stack of enemy (or friendly) units. Any Units nearby will also have a 50/50 chance of survival due to inadvertant peeking. Only workers can clean the mess (like pollution) but will take 13 times as long as they need to be blindfolded.

And all the Marine units would be dressed in tu-tus. And instead of the Army leader cheering his troops on, he'd be saying, "Now stop that, you hear. I've had about enough of this." And every so often this alien spaceship would swoop down and take away one of your units, fly all around the map, then drop off the unit in the same square he started from.

You should make cattle a stratecig resource, and then a french special unit could be the cow-catapult, which of course would gain 2x defensive value when combined with taunting (made available with the discovery of silly accents)

I wave my privates at your aunties you silly english pig-dogs

I blow my nose in your general direction you silly englis knnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnigits!!!!!:)

Heh heh, you cant forget to have the naked guy from the life of Brian as a barbarian, or the haggler :D BTW, i have a monty python video clip of the camelot scene made entirely from legos if anyone wants it :D

Also, your military advisor would occasionally appear dressed in women's underwear. And whenever the Domestic advisor pops up, there'd be a keyboard shortcut to allow you to squash her with a giant foot, with appropriate sound effects. These graphics would occasionaly be replaced by one showing a 1000 pound weight dropping on her head.

The English would have a new UU called the Twit. It would wander aimlessly around the map for awhile, then pull out a revolver and shoot himself in the head. At which time two little guys dressed in black and carrying a stretcher would appear and take his body away.

The first step to a successful mod would have to be changing all the unit anims so that they walked in a very peculiar manner indeed. And then create a department of funny walks wonder.
To increase movement rate or something.

And there should be Barbarian "suicide squads".

And if the Dark Lord would be bothered posting his lego thingy, that would be QL.

:splat: Whaddya know? Someone wuz kind enough to add a smiley that is very similar to a certain Monthy Python dance...

.... and now for something completly different....

yeah id post it if it wasnt 3 mb over the limit.

Originally posted by wilboman

And there should be Barbarian "suicide squads".



Yes, as soon as they get to your city borders, they all kill themselves.

And there'd be another new unit called "The Hermit".
You'd place him near your borders and if an enemy unit comes near, it will proceed to follow it around everywhere while talking continuosly. The enemy unit will eventually get so annoyed, it will turn around and go home.

The marketplace improvement would be replaced by an Albatross Seller.

You could always post a link or something y'know...

I apologize for not posting anything lately. I have been very busy with college lately so I haven't had much time to work on the unit making stuff. The unit will be ready soon.

Upon my return, I discovered that my thread has gone off on a tangent. Monty Python is a funny movie and I like it too. However, I ask that you create a new thread for it. It's for the best interests of both you and me: More people would look at a Monty Python thread than a thread for a trojan horse, and those who want to find out about my unit (the very reason the thread was started) won't have to sift through pages of Monty Python discussion. Please show some respect and start a Monty Python thread. If you build it, they will come, and I, myself, will download it too.


Thanks,
pesoloco

Originally posted by pesoloco

Upon my return, I discovered that my thread has gone off on a tangent. Monty Python is a funny movie and I like it too. However, I ask that you create a new thread for it. It's for the best interests of both you and me: More people would look at a Monty Python thread than a thread for a trojan horse, and those who want to find out about my unit (the very reason the thread was started) won't have to sift through pages of Monty Python discussion. Please show some respect and start a Monty Python thread. If you build it, they will come, and I, myself, will download it too.


Thanks,
pesoloco [/B]

Well sorry about that, but it turned into one of those spontaneous things. And I was having so much fun with it I just wanted to keep going with it. I was kind of wondering how long it would take for someone to step in. I promise to behave myself from now on. :D

(Damn, and I still had a few more ideas!)

Thanks.

Please don't get me wrong. I think it is funny - that's why it needs its own thread.

ps.
(my Mty. Ptn. 2 cents)
What floats?
small rocks!

FINALLY FINISHED

Here is the ZIP file

It includes the animations and an icon for units_32.pcx
No Civilopedia

Always look on the bright side of life...

It's not very good.

It's not very good


Are you talking about my unit or Monty Python?

Originally posted by pesoloco
Are you talking about my unit or Monty Python?

I didn't notice any animation besides the flames.

Yeah, there really isn't much animation in this one.
I couldn't really think of anything for it to do. It's a wooden horse. Doesn't really move much except for the wheels.
Unless anyone can suggest something?

This unit didnt turn out as good as my others. Oh well, you win some - you lose some. It was just a funny idea I had. My next unit will be much better - I promise.

Yes, animating the wheels is a good idea, and for sounds I think it would be nice with 'creaking wood' sound effects.

What if two very small guys were attached to the unit with ropes, and when it moves, the guys pull the horse forward? When it stops, the guys stop moving, but they may move around a few pixels or look around to liven things up.

Perhaps the Trojan Horse could act as a helicopter for transporting units, and have the stealth ability. It won't be possible to emulate the advantage the horse gives to an attack, but the stealth ability gives a good advantage I think.

By the way, I'm sure there are lots of animated gifs of fires you can borrow from if you want the horse to burst into flames when it is destroyed. Google.com's image databank has been a great resource for me when I hunted icons.

Don't give up on it! By the way, why are there two default flics? One horse seems smaller.

Originally posted by Razorwing
Yes, animating the wheels is a good idea, and for sounds I think it would be nice with 'creaking wood' sound effects.

What if two very small guys were attached to the unit with ropes, and when it moves, the guys pull the horse forward? When it stops, the guys stop moving, but they may move around a few pixels or look around to liven things up.

Perhaps the Trojan Horse could act as a helicopter for transporting units, and have the stealth ability. It won't be possible to emulate the advantage the horse gives to an attack, but the stealth ability gives a good advantage I think.

By the way, I'm sure there are lots of animated gifs of fires you can borrow from if you want the horse to burst into flames when it is destroyed. Google.com's image databank has been a great resource for me when I hunted icons.

Don't give up on it! By the way, why are there two default flics? One horse seems smaller.
I like the idea of the guys pulling it. Stealth ability makes it less likely to be intercepted in a flight attack. What I suggested before was Submarine ability (makes it "invisible" on land - because there are no default land units with "can see submarines" ability) The fire does look pretty cheap. I hurried thru it to get it done. I'll take a look at the graphics you suggested. It may be a little while tho before I change them cuz I got mid-term exams this coming week.
About the two default files: I didnt realize I put them both in the ZIP. The first one was my original attempt. I changed to the second because the NW,SW,NE,SE animations seemed larger than the N,S,E,W animations. The second one is supposed to be the one that was to be included with the ZIP. I scaled the horse down so it would not look like the size changed when it changed directions. Thanks for the new ideas. Maybe this unit doeshas some hope left.

Here are some animated fires, to get you started:

http://www.bmg-troy.com/images/fire_anime.gif
http://graphicssoft.about.com/library/reviews/ss/ec4k-fire_ani.gif
http://www.secaucuseng1.com/logo/alogo256lights2.gif
http://www.backwardtimes.com/animated/prairiefire.gif
http://www.members.accessus.net/~cajun/recipe.htm

To make up for my unfriendly remark : )

thanks, razorwing.

Originally posted by Umask077
From this phrase we gain the experssion...

"Beware of greeks bareing gifts".

This should read...

"Beware of Trojans, There a bunch of Morons".

My 2 cents, Unit looks cool, Have to try it. Sub+HN is my vote. The Trojan Horse was a gift to the Gods by the Greeks, and the Trojans took it to appease the gods themselves. The Greeks hiding in there jumped out at night, and let their army in. The Trojans aren't morons, they were just bamboozled by a superior intellect. Kinda like what happenes in my Civ games.

Perhaps if we built this large wooden badger...

Damn!!! This unit is perfect....for my bookshelf! :goodjob:

Cannot U make it for another colour? Like wooden... its a bit silly in RED... :D

Idiot

Lighten up, zulu. No need for name-calling.

Originally posted by zulu9812
Idiot

Lighten up, zulu. No need for name-calling.
It is kinda annoying that this guy is bumping several old units a day

Originally posted by jzsf
Cannot U make it for another colour? Like wooden... its a bit silly in RED... :D

Seems like an honest request ta me.

Originally posted by zulu9812
Idiot

Lighten up, zulu. No need for name-calling.

Nyomorék. I dont know whats up with U... U like chili coloured horses... then download it and race with it around the table...
Ur enemies will die of laughing... :lol: :lol:

This is a very old unit. It was 1 1/2 years old before you bumped it. There is no need to do that.

Just clarifying a little ;)

The TMT

BTW, sweet unit pescolo, if you're still around.

A catapult firing cows doesnt seem like such a bad idea...... :D As does the knight idea but where would they get the coconuts?????
They find them, obviously.

Or they take them from sparrows

Ok, this was COMPLETELY unnecessary for you to bump... you not only did you don't have something to contribute about the unit as is often the case, but your post has nothing to do with the unit at all... DON'T BUMP OLD THREADS, PLEASE!

heh, it's cool! looks like it's made of blocks! XD

To quote DP in the post just above yours:

Ok, this was COMPLETELY unnecessary for you to bump... you not only did you don't have something to contribute about the unit as is often the case, but your post has nothing to do with the unit at all... DON'T BUMP OLD THREADS, PLEASE!
Although that quote is not all entirely relavent, it's gist is correct. It's considered bad form to post in a thread which is more than about 2 weeks old, without posting anything which hasn't been said before...

To quote DP in the post just above yours:

Although that quote is not all entirely relavent, it's gist is correct. It's considered bad form to post in a thread which is more than about 2 weeks old, without posting anything which hasn't been said before...
I don't mind about two weeks, not even 2 months, yet it gets anoying when its between one and a half and 2 years- especially when after an ancient babylonian thread that has already been resurrected from momification, it is bumped every couple of weeks henceforth. I know that new people like to voice their opinion, and I really welcome them to do so, yet I also encourage them to read merely a few thread postings before theirs to find out what the actual topic was before they do actualy post (in our case it was: Stop posting here if nothing new can be brought to bare).

I think a good new feature would be: A thread that hasn't been frequented for 6 months should be closed to posting automaticaly with exception to the originator of the thread him-/herself (always with the possibility of reopening by the originator)!

This unit is lousy. I can't make units, that's why I don't post my useless efforts here.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you have to demean the person, it's a good unit, just the colors are wierd.

I could say many a thing about this particular unit (for instance that it is 2 and a half years old and that people are still posting on this thread!) but surely nothing about its colours...

oh and Sweeney, some members on this site don't like people joking about nazis...

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/snap035.JPG

Do people actually use this unit? (no offence intended) If you do, how?

Geez.... holy thread-resurection batman! :D