If you like Civilization and Age of Empires you seriously need to check out this game. Don't ask any questions, just go out, buy it and become addicted.

Endureth

Originally posted by Endureth
If you like Civilization and Age of Empires you seriously need to check out this game. Don't ask any questions, just go out, buy it and become addicted.

Endureth

I guess Empire Earth can't be like both Civ and AoE as the first is turn based strategy and the other one is realtime action wannabe-strategy. Allright, that was outright nasty but it's my humple opinion. Just pointing out that I might nog at all be interested in other games even if they have a resemblance to strategy in them.

I'm sure you're going to get a lot of individual opinions about this one. I, in fact, did the opposite of what you suggest - bought Empire Earth first. Hated it, went back to the store and exchanged it for Civ III.

I think turn-based is much more enjoyable than real-time "strategy", at least you can think in between moves. I found it impossible, or at the very least stressful, to keep track of all the little units running around - they are so small they all look the same to me. Contrast this with the exquisite animated units in Civ III. No sir, I won't be doing Empire Earth until frogs are doing fractions :frog: .

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RTS ??? No way, José.

:p

I have both Civ3 and Empire Earth.

I rarely play EE. I play a lot of Civ3.

Thats not an opinion. It's just a fact.

Originally posted by Ripley
I have both Civ3 and Empire Earth.

I rarely play EE. I play a lot of Civ3.

Thats not an opinion. It's just a fact.

I have both but EE hasn't even managed to get installed yet...

yea .. empire earth is a good game ... hey fellows ... i bet u didnt like age of empires either? empire earth is excellent if u like age of empires and civ .... it has the depth and length of civ (not quite the scale :( ) but with all the age of empire rts stuff ... and the music is something that game developers should take note of, not the poxy music with civ3

Greetings!

Frankly speaking, I was deeply hooked on the Age of Empire series - played this one a lot and I thought it was the greatest strategy game on Earth until I came across Civilization. Then my opinion quickly changed, that hook was even stronger than previous one. :crazyeyes

Still, it would be nice to see a merger of these two games, with one provision that it stays TBS not RTS. One city with lots of buildings producing lots of things at the same time - it gets very hard to keep tracks of everything and you play this game not for days and nights, but, for years and years!!!!! Of course, you can do some other things in between one game intervals, like raise cows, study at college, get married, raise your children and then you finish that game.

How's that sound for a real REAL TBS civ????:goodjob:

Originally posted by Selous
yea .. empire earth is a good game ... hey fellows ... i bet u didnt like age of empires either? empire earth is excellent if u like age of empires and civ .... it has the depth and length of civ (not quite the scale :( ) but with all the age of empire rts stuff ... and the music is something that game developers should take note of, not the poxy music with civ3

I do actually like Age of empires and have all the series (Apart from the Star Wars add on pack) but just haven't got round to play Empire Earth...Or installing it...

gave EE a whirl and didn't really get into it. not a big RTS fan, all a bit manic for me. and i didn't get into the scripted story line bit at all - expecially as it claimed to be simulating history (sort of), and then you get these magician/priest unit things that cast spells. mmmmm. a bit like civ having fantasy units thrown in - kind of.

as for AoK, still play it now sometimes, but only MP. its very frantic and good fun against human players, but again, give me civ anyday. i've never played civ MP before - really looking forward to that.

and Dell19

I do actually like Age of empires and have all the series (Apart from the Star Wars add on pack)
very good :D

I wouldn't expect to get a lot of people around here saying EE is a good game. I mean there can't be 2 great games out there can there? Seriously I think EE is a very good game I for one like many different types of games from CIV type games to FPS to RTS ect.. I don't narrow myself down to one genre I like to mix it up a bit. :cool:

Peace-Out

I bought EE when it first came out and loved it. I Played it almost every day.

Then a few weeks later I got Civ3. I haven't touched EE since.

It's not that there can't be two great games out there. It's just that there are only 24 hours in a day, and I spend as many of them as possible playing Civ3. Now I've split up all the tasks of my home-life into tiny slices that fit neatly into the "between-turns" cycle.

I too can manage the day-to-day tasks of my life "between turns". Heck, I even got the dishes done! My wife is sooo proud!

I too bought EE first, played all the campaigns, played online (great fun for MP). Then came Civ3. :cooool:

Originally posted by Salvor
Now I've split up all the tasks of my home-life into tiny slices that fit neatly into the "between-turns" cycle.

heh, I know how that goes. "Watch the baby? Okay, I'll watch him for 5 minutes, play a turn, watch him for another 5..." :)

I am a RTS fan, but I NEVER got into AoE. And the sequel was kinda sucky too. The original Command and Conquer was a lot of fun for me (it was so new to me back then!), and I loved Warcraft and Starcraft. As of right now, until something comes along that generates the same hysteria Starcraft did, I won't even bother trying another RTS. Too many have been far too boring... and the ones that really try to throw in a ton of strategy are just WAY too hard. Seven Kingdoms anyone?

I was hooked on AoE and AoK and all the expansions. I was planning on picking up EE when it came out but have not found the time. I think Civ3 is just easier to follow when you don't spend hours upon hours a day playing. Between work and family time, I have a very limited playing time available and could never get into a good AoE game during the workweek.

Got a couple of weeks off coming up soon and not going anywhere so might just have to run out and pick up EE since I will have some free time, unless the wife wants me to paint the house or do something "constructive" with my time.

Both probably have their pros and cons and both are probably addictive.

Last time I looked at a gaming site - Gamespot.com - the fans (the public) had given EE a HIGHER rating than Civ III.

Go figure.

Gamespot gave EE a really bad review. It was given 7 point something while AoK got 9 point something. I cannot find any way in which AoK is better than EE.

Originally posted by Ripley
I have both Civ3 and Empire Earth.

I rarely play EE. I play a lot of Civ3.

Thats not an opinion. It's just a fact.

yeah that's the way it works, EE isn't bad but it can't stand to Civ3. any idiots who rated it higher than Civ3 should get off whatever he's on.... or maybe just share it, must be REAL strong.

Originally posted by Zouave
Last time I looked at a gaming site - Gamespot.com - the fans (the public) had given EE a HIGHER rating than Civ III.

Go figure.

I don't find it funny at all... RTS-games are much easier to get started with and they in general more popular than turnbased strat'games. I've found that (this is also very generally speaking!) those who enjoy RTS find TB dull as there's not enough action in it. But, according to my opinion, RTS should be renamed to RTA, as in Realtime action >:) there's some tactics in those games but enough strategy to satiesfy my needs!

Ok I am a big fan of both RTS and TBS. I'm hooked on Civilization, but I would have to say the game I had the most fun with in the past year or so is Starcraft. I got addicted to that, and then AOK. What I play is largeley dependant on my mood. I like Tom Clancy's Rainbow 6 games as well, for a different feel to strategy. For something different, recently I tried Baldur's Gate II. I could not get into it, for it was so different from what I liked, so I went to EB and sold it and AOK in exchange for EE. EE looks like a great game that I will enjoy. I just want to read some more of the novel that came with it though ;)

I sold AOK because EE is just a larger version of AOK, so why keep it? Selling those two games took 20 bucks off the price of EE. I could not get into such a huge and involved game like BG2.

-october-:scan:

I upgraded my system to handle Empire Earth. I thought Civ3 could have been much more enjoyable, and perhaps it will be when its all said and done and patched and rereleased with $20 addon disks which will quickly be made obselete by the release of civ4.

10 reasons why EE kills Civ3
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10. EE was released with the best Scenario editor ever seen ( I am currently making historical scenarios with unbelievable trigger effests, something I have never tried to do before) while Sid stiffed us on an editor in Civ3.
9. No patch needed for me at least so far in EE while I am still waiting for a third patch to fic problems I've encountered in Civ3.
8. EE doesn't take 8 days to play a whole game. Civ3 takes forever and I'm not a college student anymore.
7. EE's multiplayer works well at lots of levels, while civ3 will never be more that a single player game.
6. Civ3's terrain is pointless, while EE's terrain is essential to your strategy.
5. In Civ3, the amount of any resource you have makes no difference, while in EE, the amount of resources you control has a direct correlation to the amount of units you can produce.
4. I have never seen a group of clubmen kill my battleship in EE!
3. In Civ3, city seige is boring (line up a bunch of counters and attack 30-40 times until you win), in EE the units actually do combat, and the type and placement of the units bring about a result that is more that just a die roll.
2. It is much more satisfying to slaughter your opponant's workmen with a bazooka and see their bloodied corpses fly into the air in EE than it is to simply move over and erase them with Civ 3.
1. EE is fun. Civ3 is interesting, but lots of things in my life are interesting while very few are really fun. I would rather read an interesting book, but I want to play fun computer games!

just my opinion,
sumociv

Empire Earth is one of those games that seems to grow on you. When I first got it, I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't quite the game that it had been hyped up to be, gameplay seemed a bit the samish, one age seemed very like the next and I thought (and still do think) that AOK and AOE graphics are better. However, for all that, the game keeps growing on you. I think its one of those games that started off not selling as well as they thought it would but its been picking up as word gets round. That's only my perception though, I could be wrong.
I think too that this game could be "saved" (if you think it needs saving) by the editor.
One good thing I've noticed is how the AI plays differently depending on which type of game you're playing. That is, when you finish building a wonder and that's a winning objective it reacts rather violently whereas in AOK the AI seems to behave the same way regardless of game type.

What is the best EE site out there...the ones I've found have rather disappointing content and very poor forums :(

I have played it twice in multiplayer...and found it to be great fun, but prone to stalemate as resources are FAR too plentiful and can easily maintain very heavy losses. Which means the game goes on and on and on and on and on and on :rolleyes: In AOK etc (I mainly played "Rise of Rome" online) the resources dwindled after a while so attrition wasn't as protracted as EE.


Having only had a look at one of the single player campaigns I was shocked to see the portrayal of the German pilots...they appeared to be the heroes to Polish peasants whilst the Russians were butchers :rolleyes:


I wouldn't say that EE kills Civ3...I'd say that Operation Flashpoint is better than either!

kittenOFchaos,

Have you tried Empire Earth Heaven at http://ee.heavengames.com?

Also there is an official forum to make suggestions for future enhancements at http://www.gamescope.net/index.php?viewCat=15.

Hope that helps.

Yeah...I've tried they both...they lacked content and hardcore info...I'm a veteran of RTS and so silly strategy guides of 1 unit rushes weren't what I was interested in.

CORRECTION: one interesting article...great :D <seriously!>

http://ee.heavengames.com/strategies/viewarticle.php?id=7

This article aswell had a few interesting points easy to miss!

http://ee.heavengames.com/strategies/viewarticle.php?id=36

And if you didn't bother to read the manuel :p morale is something you/I missed!

http://ee.heavengames.com/strategies/viewarticle.php?id=25



This site seems better:

http://www.rtscentral.com/readTopic.asp?hdr=&PostingId=743122

Those all seem to be pretty good sites to me although the latest one seems to be the best.

I finally got round to playing Empire Earth and its quite good...So far I have only played it on the easiest level and prophets are really annoying me. One prophet can easily wipe out a fleet of battleships...

Gamespot gave EE a really bad review. It was given 7 point something while AoK got 9 point something. I cannot find any way in which AoK is better than EE.

I agree. Empire Earth is cool, but AOK was way better. Have you noticed how every new strategy game has "unique units"? I'm pretty sure AOK was the first game to use them.

EE is OK, but I haven't played it in a couple months...the 3D terrain gets too confusing to navigate and the graphics are horrible when you get up close (and not that good from a distance either). I got sick of the campaigns really fast. On the German one, I got sick of slogging through endless French forces for hours (and their annoying accents!) The Greek campaign was hard because I couldn't figure out the objectives or where to go...and I got sick of being nuked in that future Russia one. The English campaign is just stupid. Luckily there's a lot of people making good scenarios at Empire Earth Heaven...I gotta check that out again. I think a scenario design contest there just ended so there's probably some good new ones.

I would say that Red Alert was the first game with special units...In the single player game. Unique units were only added to Age of Empires 2 and not the first one so I think a few other games had unique units in them.

Empire Earth is good but AOK is better. Even the combat is generally better because I keep on feeling that the paper, scissor, stone combat is too important in EE.

Originally posted by sealman
Got a couple of weeks off coming up soon and not going anywhere so might just have to run out and pick up EE since I will have some free time, unless the wife wants me to paint the house or do something "constructive" with my time.

Both probably have their pros and cons and both are probably addictive.

Aye the wife and EE could be at that. Or is it Civ and the wife... Civ and Empire Earth.

Well, you can't have all three, there isn't enough time :cry: so for me its still wife and civ. Civ can be a very jealous-inducing practise however:spank:

I think EE is a way better game than Civ III. It took me a couple games to get used to it, but now I play it almost every day. I played Civ III for about a week, and then got bored of it. I think RTS is way better than TBS.

Originally posted by Gandalf13
I think EE is a way better game than Civ III. It took me a couple games to get used to it, but now I play it almost every day. I played Civ III for about a week, and then got bored of it. I think RTS is way better than TBS.

So thats why you post on a TBS forum...:rolleyes:

I am getting much better at EE. It is highly enjoyable. I can't say which I like better...RTS or TBS, because it depends on my mood on any given day. Therefore, I have the choices. It is highly satisfying to march into an enemy town with columns of tanks supported by hordes of infantry backed up by artillary, while calling on nuclear airstrikes and to see three atomic bomb blasts at the same time laying waste to everything.

One thing is disappointing. In later states of my games, when I shut it down, it always locks my computer up before I can get to those cool graphs, and then i have to do a control alt delete to get out of the program. And I have a lot of memory in my computer too (192 megs of ram)

-october-

I bought a few RTS games EE ,AOE, Amada2 , Europa Univ2,and Bridge Commander But I do not think I will buy any more RTS I find it to fast for an old wargamer. Amada 2 is not to fast but you can not make a plan during pause and I do not like that . I will stick to TB games.

Originally posted by sumociv
4. I have never seen a group of clubmen kill my battleship in EE!

That alone would be enough to persuade me. :lol:

How about having a fleet of 5 battleships getting destroyed by a tornado that was created by a prophet from several epochs ago...

Anyone know if there is a current day map of the world, with all the cities and nations intact? Or, a WWII scenario for this game?