View Full Version : African Javelineer (9 May 2006)


Plotinus
May 09, 2006, 12:58 PM
He's African and he's got an infinite supply of javelins. What more do you need to know?

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/37977/JavelineerLARGE.jpg

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/AJavelineer.gif

The download is here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=427).

It's not perfect, but I'm still learning! I wanted to make his spare javelins scatter when he falls over, but this proved beyond my abilities. Note: you may see some glitches on his loincloth in the preview here - these are cleaned up in the unit itself. Also, the animation speed is rather better in-game.

[EDIT - 20/10/06] - I've done new Civilopedia icons for this unit. Check out the downloads page to get them.

aaglo
May 09, 2006, 01:00 PM
:lol:
That javelin-throwing animation is quite... um.. athletic :)
I like when he goes all :hmm: in the fidget :D

Yoda Power
May 09, 2006, 01:03 PM
Wow it's great. Nice animation:goodjob:

ShiroKobbure
May 09, 2006, 01:07 PM
great unit!

themanuneed
May 09, 2006, 01:21 PM
Nice unit, I like it ! A little criticism though : shouldn't his arm make a circular movement towards the ground to throw a javelin that far and that fast ?

Rambuchan
May 09, 2006, 01:24 PM
It seems your modesty was misplaced dear Plotinus. This is a damn good unit! What's really great about it is that there has been most marked improvement between this and the Buffalo Soldier, I mean, Warrior.

odintheking
May 09, 2006, 01:59 PM
Wow, Plotinus! You definitely have a future in the unit making business, :D.

Goldflash
May 09, 2006, 02:36 PM
Well, I would say enter this into the Unit contest, but I have a feeling that you have more treats for us instore!

kairob
May 09, 2006, 02:53 PM
Why dont you make a little mini-library for your units on the unit makers thread, then you would be a proper unit maker,

Just realised that was really patronising, I nearly put another little between proper and unit maker aswell, oh dear.... well in my defence I like to be patronised, so the do unto others thing.... no?.... maybe?.... :mischief:

Roman Legion
May 09, 2006, 03:11 PM
Nice, Great Job!!!!!

W.i.n.t.e.r
May 09, 2006, 03:21 PM
Me likez! Especialy the infinite javelins- looks quite good how he grabs them from his back :goodjob:

Stormrage
May 09, 2006, 06:32 PM
You crazy son of a... I think I`m gonna cry.. no..no.. wait..no..its cool.. No! Wait..wait... its so beautiful :cry:

:thanx: Plotinus, its amazing! I`ve gots to get me some of that Poser stuff :hmm:

utahjazz7
May 09, 2006, 08:01 PM
Great unit, Plotinus. I too like that fidget animation.

Orthanc
May 09, 2006, 09:18 PM
*points to a bandana around his head*

"Infinite ammo."

:lol:

Nice unit, maybe the arm doesn't move exactly as it should, but the run, death, fidget are great, and the attack doesn't look totally unnatural.

:goodjob:

Plotinus
May 10, 2006, 02:51 AM
Thanks for the comments, all. It's most encouraging to get such positive feedback at this stage.

Yes, his arm should really follow through in the attack animation, but I had some difficulty doing this without screwing up the direction of the javelin's flight, so he does look a bit like he's throwing a paper aeroplane. As I mentioned, though, the animations do look better in-game (they all run at different speeds, rather than the uniform one required by the gif preview).

Vuldacon
May 10, 2006, 04:37 AM
Good Job Plotinus... :goodjob: I see what you mean about following through more when throwing the Javelins... I think the attack looks quite good and no way it looks like he is tossing a paper airplane: lol: Good to see you are striving for detailed accuracy with your units and they are looking Great!

Ares de Borg
May 10, 2006, 05:08 AM
Hey, that's so... useful and nice and all... You'll now have to do moooore units, you know. ;)

woodelf
May 10, 2006, 05:25 AM
Infinite javelins are a good thing! Nice unit man.

The Last Conformist
May 10, 2006, 05:34 AM
Quite nice. :) I trust we won't be seeing any more Maya atlatlmen running around in Central Africa?

On the subject of infinite supplies, do you happen to know how many javelins a warrior would normally be carrying into battle?

mrtn
May 10, 2006, 07:28 AM
Nice unit Plotinus. :)
...On the subject of infinite supplies, do you happen to know how many javelins a warrior would normally be carrying into battle?From a quite unscientific fantasy book I remember javelineers being able to throw 3 spears before the charging enemy hit them. I doubt that primitive javelineers (ie ones without a big support train) would carry more than a handful.

Snorken
May 10, 2006, 11:17 AM
Great unit, Plotinus. :)

Grandraem
May 10, 2006, 11:51 AM
Great unit, Plotinus. Second unit and you're already making really great stuff.:)

Darque
May 10, 2006, 12:06 PM
Great job. Close to perfect as far as I'm concerned.

Virote_Considon
May 10, 2006, 02:03 PM
Amazing unit!

Makes me want to add an "Infinate Javelin" resource :D

Bjornlo
May 11, 2006, 06:16 AM
Nice job.

Good animation.

Good attention to detail.

I like the subtle but effective tribal colors too.

Plotinus
May 11, 2006, 07:26 AM
Thanks again for the comments, everyone. I'm glad it passes muster even with the more critical members of our community!

Quite nice. :) I trust we won't be seeing any more Maya atlatlmen running around in Central Africa?

Damn right! This unit should at least fit in a little better.

As for javelin supplies, I don't really know, but I suspect mrtn is right. I certainly can't imagine anyone lugging more of them around than this unit. In fact, I suspect that in real life a warrior such as this would probably have only one javelin, and once he's thrown it use a knife or something, but I'm not animating all that!

mrtn
May 11, 2006, 07:58 AM
Legionaries of the Late Republic and Early Empire often carried two pila, with one sometimes being lighter than the other. Standard tactics called for a Roman soldier to throw his pilum (both if there was time) at the enemy just before charging to engage with his gladius.So if the Romans had two, I suspect other javelineers didn't have many more.

Mithadan
May 11, 2006, 10:37 AM
Except, I suppose, that the Roman Legionary wasn't a skirmisher per se. I imagine the earlier velites would have carried more than two javelins. If I were to imagine myself as a javelineer, I think once I ran out of javelins I would bugger off pretty quick, only using my knife in the direst of self-defence situations! But then again, my commanding officer might tell me different...

Whatever, I don't care, I just love the unit. If a theologian can do this, what's to keep a philosopher from trying too? Now I want to make units... (don't nobody hold der breath, tho!)

Thunderfall
May 13, 2006, 02:01 AM
Since when Plotinus started making units? :eek:

It does look very nice! :thumbsup:

Plotinus
May 13, 2006, 02:47 AM
Wow, thank you, Thunderfall!

I only just began. Still feeling my way...