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conquer_dude
May 29, 2006, 01:40 PM
... editing civilopedias? That's the one thing I don't understand. :confused:

odintheking
May 29, 2006, 02:02 PM
Steph mad a utility, and Plotinus sort of explained it in his mod tut.

conquer_dude
May 29, 2006, 02:06 PM
I think I have seen Plotinus' before. I'll go check. Thanks.

Takhisis
May 29, 2006, 02:21 PM
civ3 Multi tool has a civpedia editor.

conquer_dude
May 29, 2006, 02:27 PM
Yeah that's what I use.

BadKharma
May 29, 2006, 03:53 PM
All you really need is notepad but then you have to manually fill in the links.

Plotinus
May 29, 2006, 05:07 PM
Really the best way to understand how the pedia works is just to look at the text file itself - it's fairly self-explanatory. Or have a look at some custom ones from mods or scenarios and see how other people have done it.

Stormrage
May 29, 2006, 05:36 PM
And get lost along the way :crazyeye:

Thats why I`mma concept the whole thing with the 40k mod, before I do any actual modding ;) = it freaks me out! :lol:

BadKharma
May 29, 2006, 05:43 PM
Well Stormy being organized before you begin is definately the way to go.

Stormrage
May 29, 2006, 05:49 PM
I`m a visual type of person, thats why I post pics of my ideas, its fun and explains everything thoroughly (sp?) :)

mrtn
May 29, 2006, 07:15 PM
I think it's easy, actually, much easier than real programming. :)

Here's a brief colour coded tutorial example thingy:
$LINK<Keeper of Secrets=PRTO_Keeper>
This tells the program that here's a link.
The start of stuff.
What you want to read in the pedia.
An equals sign...
What you link to. This should obviously be spelled exactly like the entry you link.
The end of the link.

Don't ask why there's a dollar sign, just accept that it's been defined this way...

HTH :)

Stormrage
May 29, 2006, 07:18 PM
Wow, thats really helpfull! thanks uncle mrtn! :goodjob:

conquer_dude
May 29, 2006, 07:19 PM
Thanks. I'll work on it.

conquer_dude
May 29, 2006, 07:30 PM
All you really need is notepad but then you have to manually fill in the links.
Woah wait- wha? Notepad? Could you tell me how to use notepad to edit civilopedias?:)

mrtn
May 29, 2006, 07:38 PM
Woah wait- wha? Notepad? Could you tell me how to use notepad to edit civilopedias?:)
Yes?
It's a text file, of course you use notepad to change it! :)

Double-click
edit
save
close.
;)

conquer_dude
May 29, 2006, 07:46 PM
Icons then? You have to have icons, right?

Edit: I bet I sound stupid asking these retarted questions. :rolleyes:

mrtn
May 29, 2006, 07:52 PM
nope, all icons are used with the help of pediaicons.txt, not civilopedia.txt.

conquer_dude
May 29, 2006, 07:58 PM
thanks. I hope I get this right. :)

BadKharma
May 29, 2006, 08:01 PM
I think it's easy, actually, much easier than real programming. :)

Here's a brief colour coded tutorial example thingy:
$LINK<Keeper of Secrets=PRTO_Keeper>
This tells the program that here's a link.
The start of stuff.
What you want to read in the pedia.
An equals sign...
What you link to. This should obviously be spelled exactly like the entry you link.
The end of the link.

Don't ask why there's a dollar sign, just accept that it's been defined this way...

HTH :)
Yes thats true if it was actually programming I wouldnt be modding anything.

Takhisis
May 29, 2006, 08:09 PM
My PC opens the civilopedia.txt and pediicons.txt files with Wordpad, ´co is says it´s too big to open in Notepad.
I learned civilopedia edition with MSWord.

odintheking
May 29, 2006, 08:19 PM
Ulgh... I hate WordPad.

conquer_dude
May 29, 2006, 08:20 PM
So I don't have to save the file as PRTO_Whatever right, just rename it if it is a unit?

mrtn
May 29, 2006, 08:34 PM
Eh, what are you trying to do? In what program? :confused:
If you are using the biq editor you are in the wrong thread, or maybe you've just confused the hell out of people.

conquer_dude
May 29, 2006, 08:36 PM
I probably have confused the hell out of people. :blush:

Plotinus
May 30, 2006, 02:50 AM
Short summary of modding:

There are three things you change in modding: the biq, the PediaIcons text file, and the Civilopedia file. The Civilopedia file is the easiest, because it's just text for the pedia (which is not actually necessary for the mod to work). Most other things are done through a combination of the biq and the PediaIcons file. For example, you use the Editor (which edits the biq) to add units and specify their stats, as well as to specify which icon they use on the city screen. But you use the PediaIcons file to specify what the unit itself looks like (that is, what animations it uses for running, attacking etc) and also what its pedia icon will be. Both the Civilopedia and the PediaIcons files should just be edited with Notepad, or with any other program that edits text files, such as Word.

So if you want to make pedia entries, you simply write them in the Civilopedia text file. If you want to specify the icons that appear with pedia entries, you do that in the PediaIcons file. All with Notepad. And, yes, you'd think all this would be done with the Editor, but that's Firaxis for you.

There's a little more on this in my tutorial (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=149597), but that was meant to be more to do with how to plan and design a scenario than with the nuts and bolts of how to make one. But there are links in the tutorial to other tutorials that show you the nuts and bolts, so it's worth a look.

conquer_dude
May 30, 2006, 09:56 AM
I feel so stupid asking these questions :blush: But, one more. Bear with me. When you say icons, I know what you mean, but I still don't understand how you make the icons in the notebook, if it is an icon.

Thanks a bunch for all the help. It's starting to dawn on me now. :)

mrtn
May 30, 2006, 10:00 AM
It looks like this in pediaicons.txt:
#ICON_PRTO_Rider
art\civilopedia\icons\units\56chinesehorsemanlarge .pcx
art\civilopedia\icons\units\56chinesehorsemansmall .pcx
This tells the program what folder to look in, and the name of the icon. Then the game itself finds the actual icon in that folder, but without this it won't know what to look for.

conquer_dude
May 30, 2006, 10:21 AM
THANK YOU SO MUCH! :D:D I will give you guys credits on my scenerio. :)

BadKharma
May 30, 2006, 01:13 PM
Too large to open in notepad that is strange you have to be carefull if youedit the pediaicons.txt with wordpad or msword because if you change the format it will cause the game to crash.

Takhisis
May 30, 2006, 01:16 PM
You´re welcome! Anything else you want?
btw it´s "scenario" not "scenerio" :p