Somebody should try and make this mod

Probably be pretty complicated. I'm no pokemon expert, but I thought they were supposed to evolve into different things?

Not sure how many people would play it, or if anyone could make it.

That is possibly the most pathetic idea I have ever heard from these forums. Never mention it again.

That is possibly the most pathetic idea I have ever heard from these forums. Never mention it again.

Sorry but, ditto! ;) .

Hell no, this could be brilliant!

Recommend you take it to the Civ4 mod Forums though, IrishDragon

Here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=158)

I hope that was a joke.

It would be very very interesting mod to play :crazyeye:

Interesting, but pokemon now has degenerated into something 5-8 year olds play.

But we'll see.

The concepts and ideas of pokemon mayby, but not actually pokemon itself.

this would be a ridiculously fun mod.

I would learn to mod for the specific purpose of including the Roman empire and dominating the pokey men! As a matter of fact, I hate the Greeks. I should change my avatar...

Pokemon honestly wasn't that bad when it was just the old game boy game. That honestly was fun (though I was young then but still...). If it wasn't for the damned cartoon it could have been something good, even if it was for kids (hell, just watch the original Lion King, I mean everything from murder to revenge to racism).

I don't see this working for Civ but hey, if someone could make it, it would be interesting to play. I'd give it a shot.

Good luck.

That is possibly the most pathetic idea I have ever heard from these forums. Never mention it again.

My name is Stylesjl and i wholeheartedly endorse this statement:goodjob:

Pokemon honestly wasn't that bad when it was just the old game boy game.
I agree. I am fourteen now, but I bet if I looked for about five minutes I could find Blue Version.

I hope that was a joke.

Of course not. Any mod could potentially be a good game. If I was joking I would have added a :p or ;) anyway.

Pokemon honestly wasn't that bad when it was just the old game boy game. That honestly was fun (though I was young then but still...). If it wasn't for the damned cartoon it could have been something good, even if it was for kids (hell, just watch the original Lion King, I mean everything from murder to revenge to racism).

I don't see this working for Civ but hey, if someone could make it, it would be interesting to play. I'd give it a shot.

I was one of the lucky ones who only played the original Pokemon and avoided everything else. Good times :goodjob:

That is possibly the most pathetic idea I have ever heard from these forums. Never mention it again.

That's exactly what I thought when I read this thread's title.

What is "pokemon" ???

It wouldn't really work that well (well, it might work, but it would be awkward). The tech tree would be the tough part. Something that captures the spirit of Pokemon and works in the civilization environment would be difficult. Promotions and upgrades (Pokemon evolving) would fit fine, though.

It would take a pretty big fan to make it, though, so I don't think anyone will take the time and effort.

What is "pokemon" ???

See here (http://www.pokemon.com) You much like myself are probably too old to get into pokemon. It came out when I was 20. A friend of mine's little brother was into them so we would play some of the games with his brother. I even played the card game a few times with him. Not to mention I was always pikachu on Super Smash Bros. on N64. He was quick.:goodjob:

What about modding a pokemon civ.
Leader - Professor Oak
Cities - All the ones from the game
Special Unit - Pikachu
:crazyeye:

Pokemon honestly wasn't that bad when it was just the old game boy game.

True! It was an awesome gameboy game. I played it, along with several male counterparts. I didn't even get beat up for it. But then 1,000,003 pokemon were added to the original 100 or so. That's when it got LAME.

Honestly, though, I see absolutely no way this could be made into a civ mod. The premises of the two are about as polar as you can get. It's kind of like saying there ought to be a Doogie Howser mod for Civ.

What about modding a pokemon civ.
Leader - Professor Oak
Cities - All the ones from the game
Special Unit - Pikachu
:crazyeye:

Well, that would ruin some of the rock, paper, scisors dynamic that both games have if you just have one unit. Then its not really Pokemon-Civilization more than just Civilization looking like Pokemon.

Ugh...so much....yuck. Please don't hate on Pokemon if you don't know anything about it.
Yes, it could be a good idea. But, understand, there're 386 of the little buggers, many of which evolve, and many of them look very, very different. I don't think anyone would want to put in the excruciating amount of time that it would take to make 3D models of all of them or even just some of them, not to mention appropriate effects and everything else.
In closing, let me say that people who think Pikachu should be the UU for a Pokemon Civ don't know just how much that thing sucks. It should be a legendary....like Mewtwo...or Deoxys...

Mewtwo is overrated, never heard of the other one (stopped after Crystal version). Keep in mind that some of that actual civ uus aren't the best unit they've had, just the most well known. Pikachu is the most well-known, even if he won't take a pounding (make him a fast, early unit).

Ugh...so much....yuck. Please don't hate on Pokemon if you don't know anything about it.
Yes, it could be a good idea. But, understand, there're 386 of the little buggers, many of which evolve, and many of them look very, very different. I don't think anyone would want to put in the excruciating amount of time that it would take to make 3D models of all of them or even just some of them, not to mention appropriate effects and everything else.
In closing, let me say that people who think Pikachu should be the UU for a Pokemon Civ don't know just how much that thing sucks. It should be a legendary....like Mewtwo...or Deoxys...

it cud just be based on red n blue

it cud just be based on red n blue
True, but 151 isn't a very small number either. And then we'd miss out on some really cool pokes....like Houndoom...

True, but 151 isn't a very small number either. And then we'd miss out on some really cool pokes....like Houndoom...

you cud make 1 wit only the good pokemon like chikorita

I forgot everything about pokemon except that Alakazam was awesome.

This is a very interesting idea for a mod, though i doubt it's possiblility.

Pokemon: noun. An ingenious invention to deprive children and morons of their parents'/own cash in exchange for the most pointlessly boring game based on the worst drawn cartoon series in existence.

Interesting, but pokemon now has degenerated into something 5-8 year olds play.


yeah i remember back when it was so popular it was a game 12 year olds play :p

yeah i remember back when it was so popular it was a game 12 year olds play :p
But, the game boy game even High Schoolers play.

SoxSexSax: Your sig is too long.

Pokemon: noun. An ingenious invention to deprive children and morons of their parents'/own cash in exchange for the most pointlessly boring game based on the worst drawn cartoon series in existence.

NB: The cartoon is based on the game, not vice versa. :)

That is possibly the most pathetic idea I have ever heard from these forums. Never mention it again.

You came too late to remember sebsage....

But, atleast give people the benefit of a doubt and help them out.

Not to drag this off topic, but what were some of his ideas? (I remember him back at the old CDG, but I wasn't active over here).

Maybe some perspective would be nice for people who are quick to criticize every idea as the worst one in the world. There are far worse ideas than this one, even though this one is hard to impliment.

Not to drag this off topic, but what were some of his ideas? (I remember him back at the old CDG, but I wasn't active over here).

Maybe some perspective would be nice for people who are quick to criticize every idea as the worst one in the world. There are far worse ideas than this one, even though this one is hard to impliment.

Syrus_Knife - a.k.a. sebsage (http://forums.civfanatics.com/member.php?u=23044).

(I was going to post a picture of the tiger leaderhead from his "animal/Atlantis" mod, but it seems to be in the cyberspace binary graveyard).

To sum it up, his "units" were either text files, gif picture of a hand-drawn (2D) 'unit', and an animated gif of the tiger "leaderhead" just shaking its' head from side to side - vigorously.

Moved to C&C

Pokemon is obviously absolutely retarted, but I have to admit it wasnt the worst gameboy game in the world. Actually if you think about it was pretty fun (then agian when i played it I was pretty young.)

Anyone it'd be interesting to see how this comes out. Noones ever thought of it here.

lol @ that pokemon link! Did you see the competition winners? What a hideous bunch!

I'm not interested in pokemon enough anymore to do it, but I can see it working in a way.

You'd have to add unit types for each element, and then give them abilities like (for water units) +50% versus fire, or something.

Instead of making them evolve, just replace younger ones on the tech tree with more advanced versions. You can 'evolve' them by researching and upgrading.

For the civs, you could go down the regional route (Kanto, Jhoto) or have elementally themed civs, and use relevant gym leaders for each leaderhead.

Barbarians could be Team Rocket, with wild pokemon being the usual Koffing, Ekans etc.

I would probably play it, but I don't like it enough to do it myself.

rofl. Civ4 and Pokemon just don't seem to mix....but it could work...if you were bothered to do it. I dobut it would be worth it though. So many people hate the cute little things.

I wish anyone willing to do it extreme luck. :crazyeyes:

I was one of the lucky ones who only played the original Pokemon and avoided everything else. Good times :goodjob:
Unfortunetly, I got caught up in the damned card game. Kinda fell out of a favor of it when a 17 year old dude stole nearly all the cards I had. Of course I'd left them on the curb when my friends and I went to get more cokes to smash against the concrete to see em explode.

I'm not kidding. The dude seriously was 17. I have no idea why they would have stolen them as it seems a little kiddy for 17, but they weren't the sharpest tools in the tool shed.

But enough of my rambling...

Where there's a will there's a way. If someone wanted to make it it might be possible. As to wether or not it would be fun and worth playing, however, that would have to be seen later.

Pokemon: noun. An ingenious invention to deprive children and morons of their parents'/own cash in exchange for the most pointlessly boring game based on the worst drawn cartoon series in existence.

You cant say pokemon was a boring game. anyone who played it was addicted to it.

it wud probably be possible to implement it in some way if anyone realy wanted to

why does everyone hate pokemon so? There are so many franchises, why be nasty about the games. However, the franchise-franchise was awful. The movies were hopeless, and the 3rd film could be counted as one of the worst films in history........certainly one of the worst animations in history. The games however are fun. I still have to fight myself not to use a master-ball on that yellow-bird creatuer (can't remember its name)

Go and puke over Digimon. THAT was one of the worst cartoon franchises ever. The Cartoons were medicore for its age group. Everything of value stopped after that.

While Pokemon might not mix very well with Civ, why not take the basic idea and use it?

Imagine this:

On a planet far, far, far, far, far away evolution didn't take quite the route it took on earth. The dominant species wasn't some horny monkey with an opposable thumb. On that planet an ecosystem evolved, that was able to adapt its phenotypus to a changing genotypus.
Naturaly a species became dominant because of its trait to be able to domesticate and use this ability, to selectively change the genetical makeup of all living beings of their ecosystem. This species didn't develop technology based on stone or steel, but on the flesh and wood of their servant races.

Over time though the different tribes of this species introduced several different genetical strains into theyr own genetic code and became different species. Now the battle for supremacy has began again: which species will become dominant by ever adapting their servant races and themself?

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Now this different Civs would start with a few "basic units" that through continual promotion and upgrading would "evolve".

That's a pritty cool idea:crazyeye: :crazyeye: :lol: :lol: :lol: honsestly read the following

That is possibly the most pathetic idea I have ever heard from these forums. Never mention it again.

i find the cartoon series nothing short of a travesty.
but the game was addictive. and very like civ in a way:

civ:start with 1 settler and 1 warrior/scout
pkmn:satart with one pkmn and 3000 quid.
civ: expand your empire
pkmn: capture other pkmn
civ:go to war
pkmn:start a battle
civ:win-->tribute or conquer - lose-->either die or pay tribute
pkmn:win--> gain badge and money lose-->get defeated and lose money

modding would be interesting...

Yes, it could be a good idea. But, understand, there're 386 of the little buggers...

Goodness, I remember when there were only 151. What the heck happened?

Goodness, I remember when there were only 151. What the heck happened?

They kept adding on more games. They're bringing out 2 more games so there will probably be around 500

One of the advantages of mod making is you dont have to appeal to the mass community. Make the mod you like, and some will love it, some won't. But thats okay, if the idea doesn't appeal to them they wont download it.

But lets consider the mechanics (keep in mind this is coming from a guy that has never played any of the pokeman games).

1. Pokemon. Different ones could be applied as animals (less aggresive) or barbarian (more aggresive). These could represent the wild pokemon in the world.

2. Capturing pokemon. In FfH we allow units to learn spells on levelup, in this mod the summons would be learned upon successful completetion of a battle.

3. Summoning. Check out FfH for some of the ways we use summons, it should cover the basics.

4. Leveling up your pokemon. There are a few ways this can be done, xp can be given when a pokemen wins a battle, the summoner could choose what pokemon to upgrade when he levels, etc etc.

5. Defensive summons. This would be the SDK change. You would need a popup on attack so the defender could select what pokemon he wants to defend with. The AI would have to be trained on how to pick an appropriate pokemon.

These are base mechanics, completely outside the "flavor" of pokemon (I prefer to design without flavor). The question is, would a mod that had these mechanics be enjoyable? I think it definitly could be.

Whether or not you decide to use pokemon as the flavor or not I think the mechanics I outlined above (or whatever mechanics oyu choose) would make for a very interesting mod. The ability to capture summons, level them up and choose them on attacks and defends (with them having various pros and cons against each other) would be fun and a significant difference from vanilla civ.

Just my 2 cents, good luck to you.

Yep Kael, that was the way along which I was thinking as well ^^. Scrap Pokemon, long live CivMon ^^.

Pokemon used to fight each other for our entertainment. Let's use them in wars too!

A Civ IV Mod with Pokémon Units would work.

Instead of Melee, Siege, Gunpowder, etc... unit traits we would have water, fire, psycho....

In the Tech tree the units (the Pokémon) could be sorted by thier strengh and/or thier order of appearance in the original game.

Of course modelling all those little buggers would be a mammoth project.

Here ya go someone has already made a war of it:

http://www.jah.ne.jp/~kmoro/poke/poketop.htm

It's actually not that horrid that idea.
I'm sure it would've been much easier for Civ2 seeing as you would only need 2D models, but it's an interesting concept.

Think of this, you can have experience for 'trainer' units that increases their ability to capture. Capturing units would be easy enough seeing as that's been something you were able to do in Alpha Centauri with the native units.

Cities could be used mainly as breeding centers and for healing.

I'm sure there is a lot of potential for the idea. It would definately be a ton of work though.