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Kal-el
Mar 05, 2002, 12:27 PM
Below are three files. The first is a compilation image of all the wonders splashes for the additional wonders in the Double your Pleasure Mod (still under construction). The second image is of the one I forgot to add in the composite. The next post has a link to the wonder splash images themselves.

Kal-el
Mar 05, 2002, 12:28 PM
here is the circus maximus

Kal-el
Mar 05, 2002, 12:30 PM
all the files can be found by clicking on the link below.

kal-els additional wondersplash images (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/kal-els_wonders.zip)

stainz
Mar 05, 2002, 01:42 PM
I,ll definity (sp) use some of these.

Are the gfx from CTP?

sealman
Mar 05, 2002, 02:24 PM
Stop posting and finish your mod:D

Can't wait to see what you have these wonders set up to do?

:goodjob:

mizaq
Mar 05, 2002, 02:48 PM
nice compilation!

Kal-el
Mar 05, 2002, 03:08 PM
Sealman,

I want to make all the additional files available now so that when the mod is finally finished all that needs to be downloaded is the bic file and maybe some unit.ini files. Plus, it is nice to hear that people like what I am doing. Gives some motivation to keep going.

besides, I post when I am at work and work on the mod when I get home.:D

check out the change log (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17481) to see what the wonders will do.

still working on the values for the units/improvements.

Stainz,

the only graphics from CTP are Edison's Lab, East India Company, and Gutenberg's bible.

I grabbed graphics from ToT for, atomic weapons test (this is different than Manhatten Project - it is a requirement for Manhatten Project and United Nations), Eiffel Tower (though I had to modify it to get rid of that red sky) and Stonehenge.

The Energy Grid is a compilation satellite photo of the earth at night with all the lights on.

I know some of these images are very Americentric, but I tried to keep them as generic as possible.

Right now I think my favorite is the Hollywood image - taken and edited from the 2001 Oscars poster.

stainz
Mar 05, 2002, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Kal-el
I know some of these images are very Americentric, but I tried to keep them as generic as possible.


They look pretty good to me. (-:

sealman
Mar 05, 2002, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Kal-el


...
besides, I post when I am at work and work on the mod when I get home.:D
...

Well... get back to work then :rolleyes:

"Oh, hey boss". :p

(I post at work too)

mizaq
Mar 06, 2002, 09:57 AM
What did you use to make that thumbnail group photo?

Kal-el
Mar 06, 2002, 11:15 AM
I used two different programs. I am sure you could do it all with photoshop or psp but I am not as comfortable with those programs.

I used Irfanview, which you can get at www.downloads.com, to resize the images from 320 to 160 and reformat as bmp. Then I used the paint program that comes with windows to put them all together.

And then I used Irfanview again to convert it to a gif. I find that using jpegs distorts the colors a bit and causes some blurring, but gifs keep the image nice and clear.

Like I said, I am sure all this could have been done with one of the other graphics programs out there but these are the two that I am most comfortable with.

tpasmall
Mar 06, 2002, 12:05 PM
WOW! Those images are beautifal. I can finally have my civ go to Disneyland! :D Only one problem though, your sports wonder doesnt have hockey on it, so i guess that one is useless ;) Just kidding. You should do work on my mod, i need someone with talent, instead of these no-talent unit makers like Dark Sheer ;) (just kidding Sheer).

Caleb123
Mar 07, 2002, 10:27 AM
Nice wondas, but i think iz t00 much americanized though...

Caleb123
Mar 07, 2002, 10:30 AM
Nice wondas, but i think iz t00 much americanized though...

and btw, Disneyland!?:confused:

Caleb123
Mar 07, 2002, 10:32 AM
dammit, i can't delete my laz first post, gaaaaaah!

oh well........:D

Kal-el
Mar 07, 2002, 12:07 PM
tpasmall,

I am in the middle of working on my own mod, hence all the wonders.

Caleb123,

I know, there is a heavy lean towards the US, but hey, thats what I know.

For the record:
Arc de Triomphe - France
Atomic Weapons Test - Anywhere
Big Ben - Great Britain
Central Bank - Great Britain
Chichen Itza - Mexico
Circus Maximus - Italy
Civil Rights Movement - US
Constitution - US
Disneyland - US
East India Company - Great Britain
E-Bank - US
Edison's Lab - US
Eiffel Tower - France
Emancipation - US
Empire State Building - US
Energy Grid - the World
Cure for Cancer - Italy
Gutenberg Bible - Germany
Human Genome - Anywhere
Hollywood - US
Holy City - Italy
Internet - Anywhere
Las Vegas - US
Statue of Liberty - US/France
Spirit of St. Louis - US
National Monument - US
National Gallery - Great Britain
Great Opera House - Australia
The Sphinx - Egypt
National Athletic Association - US/Great Britain
Stonehenge - Great Britain
Summer Palace - Japan
Supreme Court - US
Taj Mahal - India
War Memorial - US
Winter Palace - Germany
WWW - The World

The Original Wonders:
The Colossus – Greece
The Oracle - Greece
The Great Lighthouse - Egypt
The Great Library - Egypt
The Great Wall - China
The Hanging Gardens - Babylon
Sun Tzu's Art of War - China
Sistine Chapel - Italy
Leonardo's Workshop - Italy
Copernicus's Observatory - Poland
JS Bach's Cathedral - Germany
Magellan's Voyage - Portugal
Smith's Trading Company – Great Britain
Shakespeare's Theater – Great Britain
Newton's University – Great Britain
Universal Suffrage - Anywhere
Theory of Evolution – Great Britain
Hoover Dam - US
The United Nations - US
The Manhattan Project - US
SETI program - US
Cure for Cancer - Anywhere
Longevity - Anywhere
Heroic Epic - Anywhere
Forbidden Palace - China
The Pentagon - US
Wall Street - US
Military Academy - Anywhere
Iron Works - Anywhere
Battlefield Medicine - Anywhere
Intelligence Agency - Anywhere
Apollo Program - US
Strategic Missile Defense – US


The Medal Count:
US – 23
Great Britain – 10
Italy – 5
Egypt - 4
France – 3
China - 3
Germany – 3
Greece - 2
Australia – 1
Japan - 1
Mexico - 1
Poland - 1
Portugal - 1
India – 1
Iraq - 1
Anywhere - 12

I think I counted correctly. ;)

I am open to suggestions for new Wonders Both Great and Small if you feel that your corner of the world is not represented.

nEo
Mar 07, 2002, 08:02 PM
Its not our fault that the U.S has so many things :) I doubt this is about being pro US and just about finding good wonders.

Maybe could include stuff such as:
buddha related
wailing wall
arc of covenant :)
perhaps a more advanced computers like nanotechnology
the louvre
olympics?
pantheon or is it parthenon
st. patricks cathedral
Ford Production plant (perhaps could increase production 1st mass production)
International Space Station
Hubble Telescope
Cloning (maybe increases population or something)


those should level the playing field a bit for those who don't like the USA being at the top. If i think of others will let ya know. Great job so far.

Kal-el
Mar 07, 2002, 09:11 PM
nEo,

Those are good, but what would they do? One that I am particularly interested in is the Olympics, but I could never figure out a way to get it to work in the game.

Its too bad there isn't something like the old civ2 eiffel tower, where by building it you could improve your relations with the other civs.

The Louvre I imagine would be a national Museum, that is definitley a possibility to be added.

nEo
Mar 08, 2002, 01:54 AM
lets see.... im not really sure how much programming u can do to affect the game. Put possible uses next to it and possible culture points in parenthases.

big wonders:
buddha - not sure something religious
wailing wall(4) - eases war weariness of citizens
arc of covenant(5) - not sure just sounds cool :)
the louvre(4) - happiness in some way sounds correct here
pantheon / parthenon(3) - creates a temple in each city
st. patricks cathedral(4) - creates cathedral in each city
Ford Production plant(2) - increases production in cities on continent
International Space Station(3) - not sure but something global
Hubble Telescope(2) - since fog of war isnt really a major player not sure

small wonders:
Cloning(2) - human units are created faster
olympics(4) - extra trade per square in city where built
nanotechnology - increases science in city built or production

Yeah used to like that ol' eiffel tower, needed it lots too in CIV II, at least i did ;) The only time i run into trouble now is when i get a free movement between nations going, line up my forces next to all their cities and crush em. The other countries dont like that too much.

Leonel
Mar 10, 2002, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by nEo
lets see.... im not really sure how much programming u can do to affect the game. Put possible uses next to it and possible culture points in parenthases.

big wonders:
buddha - not sure something religious
wailing wall(4) - eases war weariness of citizens
arc of covenant(5) - not sure just sounds cool :)
the louvre(4) - happiness in some way sounds correct here
pantheon / parthenon(3) - creates a temple in each city
st. patricks cathedral(4) - creates cathedral in each city
Ford Production plant(2) - increases production in cities on continent
International Space Station(3) - not sure but something global
Hubble Telescope(2) - since fog of war isnt really a major player not sure

small wonders:
Cloning(2) - human units are created faster
olympics(4) - extra trade per square in city where built
nanotechnology - increases science in city built or production

Yeah used to like that ol' eiffel tower, needed it lots too in CIV II, at least i did ;) The only time i run into trouble now is when i get a free movement between nations going, line up my forces next to all their cities and crush em. The other countries dont like that too much.

Well the Buddha one could increase happiness in your empire. The Sistene chapel is sorta like the Buddha statue.
Arc Of The Covenent could be like the end of the game? Like you try to recreate the Ark Of The Covenent by following stuff in the bible and the end animation could be like God coming down to earth and rewarding your civ for bringing him back and smites the other civs? That's probably currently out of our league I guess.
Ya know La Louvre could increase the culture of a civ or a city. La Louvre does house some priceless pieces of artwork.
Guess that pretty much sums it up.

Hagbart
Mar 11, 2002, 04:38 PM
Emancipation and Supreme Court are not neccessaraly US wonders, :D we have a supreme court here in Denmark as everywhere else.

Constitution seems like an odd wonder to me.

And by Holy City do you meen the Vatican City in Italy?, because then you should just call it the Vatican, unless its a small wonder (then it has to be called holy city or something).

IMO you can't have both the internet and WWW, you must choose one.

Why is Leo da Vinci on the "new" Cure for Cancer wonder, that seems odd.

Spirit of St. Louis got to go, I have no idea what it is?? :confused:

Very very good work :goodjob:

nEo
Mar 11, 2002, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by leonel


Well the Buddha one could increase happiness in your empire. The Sistene chapel is sorta like the Buddha statue.
Arc Of The Covenent could be like the end of the game? Like you try to recreate the Ark Of The Covenent by following stuff in the bible and the end animation could be like God coming down to earth and rewarding your civ for bringing him back and smites the other civs? That's probably currently out of our league I guess.
Ya know La Louvre could increase the culture of a civ or a city. La Louvre does house some priceless pieces of artwork.
Guess that pretty much sums it up.

I never thought of that...having the ark to replace the spaceship would be a SWEET thing for a religious mod. Wouldnt be that hard to do either, as long as you have pictures of what the ark is supposed to look like.



Yeah internet and WWW are weird together. Hagbart the Spirit of St. Louis is the first flight across the atlantic ocean. The name of the Plane was spirit of st. louis the the man who flew it was Charles Lindburgh. Called that because it originated in St. Louis, Missouri USA.

Kal-el
Mar 11, 2002, 09:19 PM
Internet, the, international computer network linking together thousands of individual networks at military and government agencies, educational institutions, nonprofit organizations, industrial and financial corporations of all sizes, and commercial enterprises (called gateways or service providers) that enable individuals to access the network. The most popular features of the Internet include electronic mail (e-mail), discussion groups (called newsgroups or bulletin boards, where users can post messages and look for responses on a system called Usenet), on-line conversations (called chats), adventure and role-playing games, information retrieval, and electronic commerce

World Wide Web (WWW or W3), collection of globally distributed text and multimedia documents and files and other network services linked in such a way as to create an immense electronic library from which information can be retrieved quickly by intuitive searches. The Web represents the application of hypertext technology and a graphical interface to the Internet to retrieve information that is contained in specially formatted documents that may reside in the same computer or be distributed across many computers around the world. It consists of three main elements. The Hypertext Markup Language (HTML) comprises the programming codes, or tags, that define fonts, layouts, embedded graphics, and links (hyperlinks) to other documents accessible via the Web. The HyperText Transfer Protocol (HTTP) defines a set of standards for transmitting Web pages across the Internet. The Universal Resource Locator (URL) is a standardized naming convention for identifying a Web document or file, in a sense the address of a link. The result is called the Web because it is made up of many sites, all linked together, with users traveling from one site to the next by clicking a computer's pointing device on a hyperlink.

All information is from www.infoplease.com

That is why I split them up into two different wonders, the internet is a small wonder and is a prerequisite for the web.

Kal-el
Mar 12, 2002, 12:10 PM
hagbart,

The Holy City is not necessarily the Vatican. Yes, I am using the image of the Vatican, but that is mainly because I have a cityview/civilopedia birdseye graphic of St. Peter's Basillica and the square, and I don't have the same type of image for Jerusalem, Mecca or any other Holy City.

Supply the image and I will make it an optional substitution.

Kal-el
Mar 22, 2002, 12:11 PM
hagbart,

I forgot to address your comments about the supreme court and emancipation.

I understand that all modern nations have a high court, i gave the US credit for the supreme court simply because that is an image of the US supreme court.

Regarding Emancipation: While slavery has been abolished throughout the world, the "emancipation proclamation" was written and delivered by President Abraham Lincoln of the US, in 1863 at the height of our Civil War. Hence the image of the Lincoln Memorial.

Regarding a Constitution: Having a written constitution was a huge step in the development of governments. Prior to a written constitution, rulers could basically run around willy nilly doing whatever they wanted, at least until the masses rose up and cut off their heads. The first such document, though not really technically a constitution was the magna carta in England, issued by King John at Runnymede under compulsion from the barons and the church in June, 1215 it was the first significant step towards "government of the people, by the people, for the people" (Gettysburgh Address, Abraham Lincoln, 1863)

The da Vinci Image is used for the new cure for cancer image because, 1) I am using the old cure for cancer image for the National Health Care wonder and 2) the image id commonly used in the medical field. My wife recieved her Masters in Physical Therapy and that image was used repeatedly on her text books and course manuals. maybe it should be used for the National Healthcare wonder, some things have not been set in stone. :D

nEo,

I now have a great image for the Buddha. It is of the worlds largest bronze Buddha, in I think Tokyo. What do you think about this, available with Theology, Cost 60, Culture 6, 2x Happiness from Temple (remember the Oracle becomes obsolete with theology) - The cost and the culture would be the same as the sistine chapel.

The louvre is really just a national gallery, isn't it? I was debating using a picture of it for that at least.

I like the idea for the Parthenon, I will try and find a good image of that, one that is not just a bunch of rubble. I would like to have an image of it in all its glory. if you could look for such an image that would be helpful.
:D

sealman
Mar 22, 2002, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Kal-el
...

That is why I split them up into two different wonders, the internet is a small wonder and is a prerequisite for the web.

If the Internet is a small wonder and a prerequisit for the web, then does that mean that you have to build the web in the same city that you build the Internet?

Kal-el
Mar 22, 2002, 01:01 PM
I think so.

mizaq
Mar 22, 2002, 01:56 PM
sealman: yes.

pesoloco
Mar 24, 2002, 03:07 PM
very nice work.:goodjob: :goodjob:

Discovery One
Mar 24, 2002, 03:45 PM
I hate the Chichen Itza as a Wonder name; it's the name of a whole city! May as well make St. Louis or Kalamazoo Wonders as well...

For the MesoAmericans, how about:

The Popol Wuh (a Maya mythological book)
The Sun Stone (Aztec carving)
The Colossal Head (an Olmecan artwork)
The Heiroglyphic Starway of Copan (a Maya Wonder, writing out the whole history of Copan)
The Ballcourt at Tenochtitlan (the court in the Aztec capital)

Just an idea.

raven
Mar 30, 2002, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by Kal-el
The da Vinci Image is used for the new cure for cancer image because, 1) I am using the old cure for cancer image for the National Health Care wonder and 2) the image id commonly used in the medical field. My wife recieved her Masters in Physical Therapy and that image was used repeatedly on her text books and course manuals. maybe it should be used for the National Healthcare wonder, some things have not been set in stone. :D


That image is about human anathomy. So it's not related with cure for cancer. Also I don't see any relation with national health care. You better use another image.

Kal-el
Mar 30, 2002, 08:56 PM
here is the Buddha image I was thinking of using.

How is human anatomy not related to health care?

nEo
Apr 05, 2002, 09:48 PM
Geez that one big BUDDHA! Those stats sound good for it. Too bad that buddha is being a bit obscured by the building. I saw one somewhere where it was looking below the buddha up to it and make it look massive. Not sure where I found it though. Thats still a decent pic.

Antex
Apr 12, 2002, 05:48 AM
Hi,
I added new wonder (constitution) using hacked editor, I copied your pcx file, but I don't know how can I assign pcx with this wonder - which file should I edit and what shoud I post there?

Thanx in advance,
Antex

pesoloco
Apr 12, 2002, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by Antex
Hi,
I added new wonder (constitution) using hacked editor, I copied your pcx file, but I don't know how can I assign pcx with this wonder - which file should I edit and what shoud I post there?

Thanx in advance,
Antex

It's in PediaIcons.txt
Scroll down to the WONDER_SPLASH section

Add an entry for your wonder

The numbering system is based on the wonder's index in the editor. Count down from Battlefield Medicine (#63) and include the spaceship parts. I cant remember offhand what the first index of a new wonder would be (I think its 71 or 72)

Ihmotep
Apr 14, 2002, 04:26 PM
More wonders?

Large Wonders:

War on Terrorism: Maybe reduce War Weariness (cause we know its going for something good), Reduces propaganda, and reduces corruption.

The Great Collesium: Like a regular collesium but double the effects of a regular collesium (possible trigger golden age for Rome)


City Improvements:

Movie Theatre: culture+happy faces

Recreation Center: happy faces



If I wasn't so busy I'd think up some more but tell me what you think of these

Kal-el
Apr 15, 2002, 11:26 AM
Ihmotep,

Check out my mod, it is still in beta but is quite playable. I have included movie palace as well as park improvements.

As far as wonders go, the Circus Maximus already fulfills the Great Coliseum role.

How would you implement the “War on Terrorism” in the game, and what would make it obsolete? I can’t imagine that it could last forever.


Keep the ideas coming. :D

Ihmotep
Apr 15, 2002, 06:22 PM
Well wonders don't exactly have to be tangible things do they? for instance your 'civil rights movement' isn't a statue, its an idea. This would be an idea of nationalism and patriotism. umm..I don't know what could make it obsolete but aren't there some wonders in the game that never become obsolete?

Also I thought of something else one might be interested in implementing....maybe making a modern barbarian. I know someone has already made a 'terrorist' unit so maybe that could be the modern barbarian that randomly attacks settlements.

Commander
Jan 16, 2003, 02:34 AM
blah, you've built Las Vegas in Rome, sounds silly to me :D

mrtn
Jan 16, 2003, 06:51 AM
I think the Louvre is kinda silly as a wonder, why not call it a more generic name, like Art Museum, or National Gallery?

worshipwillow
Jan 19, 2003, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by Kal-el
Its too bad there isn't something like the old civ2 eiffel tower, where by building it you could improve your relations with the other civs.

Hi, Kal-el,
I've been working on a mod and there's a bunch of new small+great wonders, but I've beem too sure I'd mess up new gfx, so these are a goddessend! Thanks! :)
I was thinking, maybe for an Eiffle Tower old skool civ2 type wonder you could just give it a real high cultural value. This might not make the world leaders more friendly per se, but as your culture goes up, so does the opinion of the other's civs citizens (more likely to flip to your rule, etc). Like I gave the Mannyhanny Project a -15 culture/turn value to reflect the natural repulsion towards nuclear weapons/winter. Nuclear plants, a lesser cultural penalty, as well. Just some thoughts...
And as far as Ihmotep's idea about the war on terrorism wonder for reducing war weariness, etc, maybe it could also be called "Universal SOMA Distribution Inc." cuz that's all the war on terrorism amounts if all we can find are empty shells and dead civilians: an opiate for the masses.
Or the "Big Brother" wonder. ;)

Left hand or forehead?

Quasar1011
Jul 18, 2003, 05:31 PM
Nashville, Tennessee, has a replica of the ancient Parthenon. It is quite large, and has a large replica of the statue of Athena inside as well. Here is a link to a site with some pics: Nashville's Parthenon (http://www.tylersterritory.com/travel/atlantic-canada/tennessee/nashville/nashville-01.html)
Perhaps some of these can be used as wonder splashes?

Goblin king
Nov 08, 2003, 11:38 AM
any fantasy wonder splashes?