View Full Version : 100 Years War- England and France
ilr_18 Jul 18, 2006, 09:31 PM Hello everyone I would like to start to create a scenario based on the 100 Years War. I will probably start sometime next week, first I want to know if anyone would be interested in this scenario.
The scenario is will not just be France and England. All of Europe will be in this scenario. I have noticed that in this time period (1337–1453) a lot is happening in Europe. The final decay of Byzantine Empire is one major event that happend. Also the Black Death plagued europe. Almost every civ will be at war with another civ, right now two civs are at peace with everyone.
The Civs in the scenario will be: England , France,Mameluke Empire, Scotland, Ireland, Burgundy, Kingdom of Castille, Kingdom of Aragon, Hungary, Poland, Ottoman Empire, Portugal, Austria, Bohemia, Lithuania, Naples, Genoa,and the Holy Roman Empire.
If you don't know what the 100 Years War is about basicaly an English King, King Edward III claimed he was intitled to the French Thrown because when Philip IV died, no man besides Edward III had a heir to the throne of France. However the French claimed that Philip VI had a heir to the throne of France as well. Philip VI became King. This makes it easier. Then Edward III declared was on King David II of Scotland, a French ally. France toke that oppurtunity to attempt to reclaim Gascony. Then finally French ships began ravaging coastal settlements on the English Channel.
Im not completely sure of how i want the techs, I might change them. The civics will stay the same and the map is basicaly Europe. Im not creating the map the map im using is byUncopain (http://forums.civfanatics.com/member.php?u=77919)
The following is the link to the map.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=156846
Also I've noticed that both sides England and France had two Heros. England had the black prince and France had Joan of Arc. I think that both England and France should both start off with a Great General maybe?
The untis in the game will be:Longbowman, Crossbowman, Knights, longswordsmen, trebuetches, musketmen, ..... there will be more and some civs or possibly all civs will have a uu.. the french uu will probably stay the same but for an example the welsh longbowman is the welsh uu..
aman2192 Jul 18, 2006, 10:35 PM Yeah thats a great idea I can't wait for it
Los Tirano Jul 19, 2006, 03:39 AM Its a very good idea. I would play it.
REDY Jul 19, 2006, 05:08 PM I can't wait for it:drool:
Red Door Jul 19, 2006, 05:14 PM It's a great idea, but it's in the wrong forum. Please try keeping your threads in the right forum, the Creation & Customization forum.
ilr_18 Jul 19, 2006, 05:17 PM Opps.. I'm sorry didnt know that. I'll move it now.
Nyvin Jul 19, 2006, 10:29 PM The only part of the map that I don't like is Britain is oversized. I realize that Britain is an important part of the map, but it's just ridiculously large in this map.
ilr_18 Jul 20, 2006, 10:17 AM The only part of the map that I don't like is Britain is oversized. I realize that Britain is an important part of the map, but it's just ridiculously large in this map.
Yes it is rather large but, you have to consider the fact that 4 civs will be on that island. Scotland, Ireland, Wales, and england... England being the biggest and most powerful.
ichiro51 Jul 23, 2006, 08:43 PM yeah if u play as england u will kill. they expand easy
seZereth Jul 24, 2006, 09:18 AM dont know if i already told you, but have a closer look into my unit library and then post 3, i created a medieval construction kit which includes textures for france and england, could easily produce more civspecific ones, if you need, jusut drop me a line in my unit library...
Stellan_87 Aug 01, 2006, 12:30 PM Why don't you put Sweden in there :D
StarWorms Aug 01, 2006, 06:35 PM Also I've noticed that both sides England and France had two Heros. England had the black prince and France had Joan of Arc. I think that both England and France should both start off with a Great General maybe?I'd like to see this scenario. However Joan of Arc came around towards the end of the 100 years war whereas the black prince was there from the start.
The only part of the map that I don't like is Britain is oversized. I realize that Britain is an important part of the map, but it's just ridiculously large in this map.
As far as I can see it looks normal sized, I've compared it to a map of Europe.
Also I'd like to point out that in the early 1400s Wales joined with England and England used the welsh longbows against the french.
Nyvin Aug 01, 2006, 08:39 PM As far as I can see it looks normal sized, I've compared it to a map of Europe.
Also I'd like to point out that in the early 1400s Wales joined with England and England used the welsh longbows against the french.
Not really, in this map the Birittish Isles are really about the same size as France and much bigger then Italy and possibly Spain, while in reality it's a little less then half the size of France and something around the same for Spain and Italy. Also comparing it to Turkey is another factor (though Turkey itself is smaller then it should be) in the map it's bigger, in reality, Turkey is about a full "4 times" the size of the Brittish Isles.
I'm not trying to be picky or anything, I realize how difficult it is to make all the sizes right, i've tried before. It's just when an important part of the map is off like that is when it takes away from the feeling of historical accuracy the game could have.
ilr_18 Aug 02, 2006, 05:29 PM However Joan of Arc came around towards the end of the 100 years war whereas the black prince was there from the start.
I had that excat same thought myself, so I was thinking of trying to get Orleans (the city she will be in) to produce a great general around the end of the 14th century. But I havint got Warlords yet :( .. im getting it saturday!! :woohoo:
Also I'd like to point out that in the early 1400s Wales joined with England and England used the welsh longbows against the french.
At first I had Wales as a civ, but then i was informed that the last Welsh Prince was defeated in the late 13th century (by an english king) meaning that wales was apart of england before the war started.
ilr_18 Aug 02, 2006, 05:34 PM I'm not trying to be picky or anything, I realize how difficult it is to make all the sizes right, i've tried before. It's just when an important part of the map is off like that is when it takes away from the feeling of historical accuracy the game could have.
Yes I realize that. I'm trying to be as historicaly accurate as possible, I didnt make the map I find that stuff boring, but if I find a better map then I would use it for sure.. Do you know of one or have one?
ilr_18 Aug 02, 2006, 05:41 PM Why don't you put Sweden in there :D
Im going to update the civ list once i get Warlords because of the 24 civ limit. Im not sure which civs will be in it, for sure there will be more in africa and the Golden Horde might be in it. What was happening in Sweden in the 14th Century? .. I'd look but I dont have the time right now
REDY Aug 02, 2006, 05:59 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Europe_in_1430.PNG
Bohemia was on the French side thanks to our french king who died in the battle of Crécy. He was blind and after Frecnh knights were running away he with words "Nobody will see that Bohemian king will step back" run with his company againist English army....
ilr_18 Aug 03, 2006, 10:58 AM Yes Bohemia was on the French side. On the French Side is The Kingdom of Castile, Genoa, Scotland and Bohemia.
On the English side is Burgundy, and Portugal.
Igorius Aug 10, 2006, 05:51 AM What was happening in Sweden in the 14th Century? .. I'd look but I dont have the time right now
In 1397 Sweden (including Finland) united with Denmark and Norway in the Union of Kalmar, which (albeit not that popular, or even united) lasted well into the 16th century. Include it as a big, weak and pointless thing in the north...
ilr_18 Aug 10, 2006, 04:12 PM In 1397 Sweden (including Finland) united with Denmark and Norway in the Union of Kalmar, which (albeit not that popular, or even united) lasted well into the 16th century. Include it as a big, weak and pointless thing in the north...
Ok so Sweden or the Union Of Kalmar.. will not be in the scenario.
ichiro51 Aug 14, 2006, 09:24 AM i live in bohemia and we may have been on the french side but that was also because france had military units stationed near us to attack if we were with the british. make bohemians always unhappy
ichiro51 Aug 14, 2006, 09:25 AM give scandanavia berserkers
Tathlum Sep 07, 2006, 10:25 AM He cant.
1. Scandinavia wont be in it.
2. Beserkers disappeared long before the hundred year war
Noret Aug 03, 2007, 12:42 AM Sounds good. I'm jsut wondering how big of a part Italy and Spain played in the war because it would be cool to have a map focusing on more the france and Britain, rather than all of Europe. I'm just concerned it will end up being a giant war across Europe, rather than the duke out between France and Britain it should be.
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