I know, restart. :)

But this is weird!

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Yep, this is why it's possible to have too many floodplains.

Maybe, just maybe, settling your first city in the middle of a bunch of floodplains wasn't the brightest of ideas...?

Too late now I suppose, but move your starting location 2 west and build Thebes there...

Too late now I suppose, but move your starting location 2 west and build Thebes there...

That spot, being away from a river, still has some health issues (you start out unhealthy). I like the plains hill to the southwest.

<quoting malekithe>

Maybe, just maybe, settling your first city in the middle of a bunch of floodplains wasn't the brightest of ideas...?

lol, I can only say that I fear moving from the starting location so much that I rarely consider it. I do appreciate your point and promise to add it to my 10 commandments! :)

<quoting DrewBledsoe

Too late now I suppose, but move your starting location 2 west and build Thebes there...

ditto my response to malekithe, I guess it helps to think in this game! :) Maybe even more than half the time.

But this is me asking, how is that even possible? Workers are 120 hammers on marathon, so unless the tile that is working has absolutely no food and no hammers, that's impossible. I'm going to have to look into it.

Thebes is working the cows, for 2 hammers. That's 3 food, plus 2 from the city center - but there's 3 unhealthiness, so only 2 food, which is just barely enough to feed the citizen!

This spot may suck for the 1st city... but i would do anything to have such a sweet spot for my 5th or 8th city... this is a PERFECT site for a GP farm...

3 hills and a strategic resoruce (is it gold?)... so production will be nice... and what... 15 floodplains? WOW! that city can have about 30+ pop *without* biology. I mean... once you get 6 or so health resources, this city will be viable to settle in... and will be a dream city :)

Now all you need is Monty and Isabelle for neighbors and the game will be perfect!

:lol:

That spot, being away from a river, still has some health issues (you start out unhealthy). I like the plains hill to the southwest.

But that spot takes in at least a couple of jungle squares..anyways since we can't see whats beyond in either case, it isn't worth arguing about :)

Now all you need is Monty and Isabelle for neighbors and the game will be perfect!

:lol:

Noob question: why?

build warriors, and steal a worker while researching animal husbandry (yes you need the health from the cow asap).

Hey malekithe & DrewBledsoe,

Just to show you I pay attention to the advice of you more talented and experienced players, when my settler found himself once again in disease ridden floodplains, he promptly attempted to find a more healthy environment! :)

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build warriors, and steal a worker while researching animal husbandry (yes you need the health from the cow asap).

Your idea may be as good as any after settling in such a poor location but at 15 turns per warrior I hope the workers are close by and undefended!

Hey malekithe & DrewBledsoe,

Just to show you I pay attention to the advice of you more talented and experienced players, when my settler found himself once again in disease ridden floodplains, he promptly attempted to find a more healthy environment! :)



Wow, what a sweet spot you got over there! :)

LOTS of food, decent production, and coastal.. nice, really nice :)

Hey malekithe & DrewBledsoe,

Just to show you I pay attention to the advice of you more talented and experienced players, when my settler found himself once again in disease ridden floodplains, he promptly attempted to find a more healthy environment! :)

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i would have gone north towards the forest.

Actually the south is good, build a Workboat first, rather than a Worker (or start on a Warrior if you don't have Fishing)

But right below the Desert Hills would work well too, the Health is balanced out, and you get the River, the cows, and the Silk.

Make the Second city there... the Capital will be a Great Commerce Center though

Noob question: why?

Sorry for the confusion. I was being facetious. He was in a bad spot already, and having two notoriusly warmongering neighbors, Montezuma and Isabella, would have made things near-fatally worse.

Hey malekithe & DrewBledsoe,

Just to show you I pay attention to the advice of you more talented and experienced players, when my settler found himself once again in disease ridden floodplains, he promptly attempted to find a more healthy environment! :)

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Good thinking Batman :)

Out of interest, what map settings you using, because that map goes (from mecca), 6 desert, 1 grass, tundra, then looks like ice..is it an arid map by any chance, or just a random small one?

Press [Esc] and try the "Regenerate Map" button. I use it whenever I have more than two floodplains in fat cross, or if I am smack-dab in the middle of a Jungle.
@Cairo 140: He was losing all his food because of floodplains, so it was just one hammer from the center.

Good thinking Batman :)

Out of interest, what map settings you using, because that map goes (from mecca), 6 desert, 1 grass, tundra, then looks like ice..is it an arid map by any chance, or just a random small one?


Anyone that has spent some time in Eastern Oregon or Southern California can tell you that is is quite possible to have a vast expanse of desert within eyesight of ice and snow.

Palm Springs anyone? Death Valley?

I've seen it.

Anyone that has spent some time in Eastern Oregon or Southern California can tell you that is is quite possible to have a vast expanse of desert within eyesight of ice and snow.

Palm Springs anyone? Death Valley?

Sure you can, but thats altitude based; Mount Kenya for example is virtually smack on the equator in dense jungle,but is permanently snow covered towards its peak, much of the Andes is snowcapped with the Atacama desert only tens of miles to the west..mountains in CIV are represented in exactly the same way...

I'm not disputing in can exist, just wondered what map settings generated it?

All standard settings. continents, umm, temperate climate, medium sea level, normal speed