Sorry classical. :blush:

Welcome to the Term I office for the UN Representative.

UN Representative: RegentMan
Second in Command: Apply within
Link to new UN forum: http://www.strategamer.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=16
Link to alternate UN forum: http://z9.invisionfree.com/Civ4_ISDG_Alternate/index.php
Link to obsolete UN forum: http://evo-games.net/Home/viewforum.php?f=241

Status of the save: Normal

Feel free to post any concerns/questions/other items here.

1. The admins are empowered to handle any dispute or situation, whether covered by the rules or not. If a rule applies, the admins must follow it. The teams have agreed in advance (by approving the admins) that they will abide by all decision.

2. The contest is in two rounds, two first round games of 7 teams each, of which 3 advance to a final round.

3. No player is allowed to be a member of more than one team. Use of double logins or other means of out of game espionage is prohibited. Accidental espionage, viewing material not intended for the public due to a flaw in forum software or by other accidental means, is not a violation as long as it is reported and the information is not acted upon.

4. Team interactions are limited to those allowed in game. No diplomatic contact until contact in game. No screenshot trading until paper (I think that's the tech).

5. The save must be played, sent, and posted in the turn tracker within 24 hours. Teams are allowed a limited number of extensions for special circumstances. The rule of thumb is if a team's average response time is higher than the other team's averages over an extended period it is a problem. The teams will help refine this rule. The turn tracker thread is for notification of turn played and to request an extension.

6. Any allegations of rule violations and self-notification of accidental violations must be sent to the admin email, not posted in any public place. The admins will decide if the information warrants public disclosure.

7. Teams may not post information about their dealings with other teams in a public place until all teams have the ability to trade screenshots, or until a point in the game where spoiler potential is largely eliminated. The admins will announce when that point is reached. (this last part is just my suggestion, perhaps we'll discuss it in another thread.)

8. Teams should internally designate someone responsible for actually playing the turn. No actions may be taken which would have the effect of reloading a save and attempting different moves or different sequences to get a different result. In particular, having several people open the save and play the turn differently to get the best result is strictly prohibited. Teams are cautioned to keep a record of the actions taken in case a turn must be replayed or there is a question about the results.

9. Anything which results in an "illogical" result from the perspective of "normal" game play may be declared an exploit, and such exploits are prohibited. One such example is the "enemy unit inside a friendly transport" bug, where a single low strength unit can capture a highly defended city by entering it on a transport at peace with the victim. Any player or team who discovers or learns of a potential exploit must bring it to the attention of the admins for a decision on whether it is an exploit prior to using it. Use of an exploit is a violation even before it is officially recognized as such, unless there is no reasonable expectation that the offending team could predict the action would be an exploit. If something unexpected happens, the player should stop play immediately and provide the admins with a starting save and explanation of how to get to the questionable result. If the result is declared an exploit and the game has not progressed, the team is permitted to replay the turn without the exploit, without penalty.

10. Renaming solely for the purpose of confusion is prohibited.

Current UN Discussions
None at the moment.

Current UN Polls
None at the moment.

Completed UN Discussions
None at the moment.

Completed UN Polls
None at the moment.

Last ISDG, a CFC player ran his mouth off at the UN and damaged some relations with another team. Could we prohibit other team members other than the UN reps to talk at the UN (other than that one thread that the FM has to talk in.)

Well i dont think we should have a rule about it just make sure that everyone knows we shouldnt.

People should know if you have a complaint/something to say, post it here and I'll get it addressed. Emp. is right; careless posting at the UN hurts others and makes us look bad.

Please use c4isdg.game2@gmail.com for saves.

civ4.isdg.admins@gmail.com is best used only for protests,
investigations and other trouble between teams that require admin
attention ;)

Thank you

The admins.

Just thought everyone should know why i've been altering Gmail, the new address has been added with notes made for the original e-mail.

Thanks BCLG, I didn't see that.

The UN forum is back up. The save is apparently with BAT.

It is back down again/

Yep, I saw that. :undecide: Keep your eyes peeled for a save.

This UN is just as effective as the real one. ;)

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/TitanicWhiz18/Smilies/lol.gif

So that means we can build WMD's and not get in trouble...:mischief:

we should have really chosen a better site to host the UN-perhaps here....

server issues are often unforseeable. Even here has had problems now and again

It is also the UN for the [c3c] ISDG, and this is the first time I've seen it crack out like this. It'll get fixed in time.

I'm sure they are doing their best. I'm glad my little ditty was taken so well. :D Also this i really the first time there have been these problem, so I'm sure that the admins are doing their best to fix it. At least we are not on the EVO team, because they will not be able to talk to other members like we are.

which could be considered a benefeit to the admins because the majority of what we've posted could be considered spam :mischief: if it wasnt highly critical to the team....

RM, can you get into contact with the admins of this game, to see what is happening with the forums.

Well, they're not the admins of the forum, so I'd reckon they'd have no idea either. It's like if CFC just stopped working; we might not know why.

But if you really want me to, I'll ask.

Perhpas they will be able to get into contact with the Evo team and there is an Admin from that site on the team, so there might e some word fromthem what exactly is happening.

True, true. I have sent this along:

Hey Dave and Rik.

We at CFC were curious if you have any idea what is causing the UN forum to break down, as it has been for awhile. Any tidbits or juicy gossip that you have found out? ;)

Many thanks!
Team CFC

Evolution Games
Due to a critical server failure, this site has temporarily been shut down. However, we are taking this opportunity to implement some long overdue improvements to the site that will hopefully enhance your enjoyment of it.

We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience, but we hope to have the site restored to full service shortly. Please try us back again soon.


- EVG Staff


This is on the home page.

Heh, I only have the forum bookmarked, not the main site. Go figure. :crazyeye:

Same here. :lol:

I couldn't find the link to the forum, so I searched on Google and got this :p.

I couldn't find the link to the forum, so I searched on Google and got this :p.
:D

Although it's in the first post...

theres a main page????

well thats just cerazy!

got this from rik

We don't know the reason. We do know that it doesn't look like it'll
be solved quickly.
Dave is setting up an alternative turntracker thread somewhere. He'll
inform all teams in due time.

Rik

You should have received a notice in the team email about the temporary turn tracker, if the admin's list of emails is current. ;)

Here's the alternate UN forum:

http://z9.invisionfree.com/Civ4_ISDG_Alternate/index.php

So have you registered there yet RM and BCLG?

I registered at the above post's time, but it never sent me the validation e-mail. :mad: It's not in my junk e-mail folder, and the e-mail address is correct. I'll see if Dave or Rik can help me out.

I had the same problem on another invisionfree board. You should be in now.

Thank you DaveShack. :)

So have you registered there yet RM and BCLG?


i have now, not being here was i think the main reason why i hadnt.

Well that is obvious. ;)

funny thing is..BC probably spent 15 minutes in a drunken stupor trying to figure out why he hadnt joined it yet. :p

nope though if i had of been here that would probably have been the key reason.

Apparently, EVG's problem is unrepairable. As such they've created a whole new forum, StrateGamer Forum. So far, the new UN forum is not fully operational, so we'll stick with the alternate for now.

Here's a link (http://www.strategamer.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=16) to the unopened UN forum. I'd recommend registering, at least, so that you won't have to do it in the future. I'll let you know when it becomes the official UN forum.

Looks like they shelled out the money for a vBulletin license.

Why is it that CDG and now EVG have all had unrepairable errors? Maybe we should think of a new host the next game around. ;)

like say cfc.....

Here's a link (http://www.strategamer.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=16) to the unopened UN forum. I'd recommend registering, at least, so that you won't have to do it in the future. I'll let you know when it becomes the official UN forum.

It's not working for me. I can't even get the www.strategamer.com to work.

That's rather curious, Methos. Clicking the link opens it for me. Try clicking the following threads, then move backwards to the forum:

http://www.strategamer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50

http://www.strategamer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53

That's rather curious, Methos. Clicking the link opens it for me.

Tried clicking your original link again and it worked fine. That's odd.

Edit: Registed as Methos.

From Morcar of team CRC.

We just have found an exploit in game mechanics relative to great people. The heart of the problem is simple: we can use 2 or more great people both for starting of GA and, for example, for creating academy in the city. You can try it by yourself: create two different great persons in the city (using WB for example) and then use first for academy, then quickly switch to second great person and choose start GA. This works only in original game and doesn`t work in Warlords.

I have not tested this yet, but assuming this is true I propose the following rule:

No Golden Age may be started in a turn in which a Great Person was already used for something else. (lightbulbing, building, great citizen, etc.)

-> If you notice you can chose a Golden Age first and then use left-over great leaders to do "something else"; you just can't do it in the order Morcar shows that can be exploitive.

Teams: discuss please.
I don't like the wording of that rule, as a team who genuinely wants to culture bomb, then start a golden age with the other two is restricted. How about: A great person may only be used for one special ability. Or something similar.

Thoughts?

how about we leave it as it is but ammend it with- unless the admins approve otherwise, the chances of us getting 3 great leaders at any one time is extremely slim.

That's another possibility, although it creates more paperwork.

I'm assuming they found this exploit through some other means then this game. If not, than holy !!!

I'm assuming they found this exploit through some other means then this game. If not, than holy !!!
I hope so too. Two great people by this time, and I'd be worried for our chances! :p

The I have not tested this yet..mean its isnt in this game since they have access to the saves.

Mathmatically impossible since no wonders have been built yet.

I hope so too. Two great people by this time, and I'd be worried for our chances! :p


i dunno 2 great people (not that its possible) would mean that the barbs would probably wipe them out within a few turns.

If they've got two people at the moment, they must have access to the world builder.

Are any of us allowed on the infravision site, not just the UN rep.

yep you all are (i'm registered there-though if i wasnt would get in the way of my ability to post there), just be warned there is so very little to see there its amazing :)

Yep, feel free to register, but refrain from posting too much. It's mainly for the turn player and UN reps.

I really see no need for anyone but the Turn Player and UN Rep for being registed there. It really is just for business only and it not that interesting.

Perhaps domestics as backup, but I hope I don't need to ever do that.

Can the mods remind the teams to update the team information thread? GWT and CBR don't even have team members listed.

Well, all of our game's teams have information up (except CBR). GWT has a link to their sign-up thread as a member list. Is CBR's information necessary enough to involve the admins?

i.e. does anyone really care that much? :D

you can always get our UN rep, whenever he stops slacking off, to just PM the turn player of CBR for that info instead of involving admins.

i.e. does anyone really care that much? :D

you can always get our UN rep, whenever he stops slacking off, to just PM the turn player of CBR for that info instead of involving admins.

Ya, I'd like to know. PMing the turn player is fine I didn't mean to make it sound like a big deal. GWT's link doesn't seem to work.

Ya, I'd like to know. PMing the turn player is fine I didn't mean to make it sound like a big deal. GWT's link doesn't seem to work.


:lol: get RM busy then, he is your servant after all :mischief: may as well give him something to do :D

:lol: get RM busy then, he is your servant after all :mischief: may as well give him something to do :D
I think we need to get the whip out then. ;)

Me --> :bowdown: :whipped: <-- You ungrateful brats. :p After all the hard work I've done over the past few months... :mischief:

I sent demarchi a PM:
demarchi,

I noticed that after over four months of playing and setting up this competition that CBR has still yet to find the time to post their details in the Team Information Thread (http://z9.invisionfree.com/Civ4_ISDG_Alternate/index.php?showtopic=4). Since you guys seem incapable of performing even the most minute of tasks, here is a friendly reminder to do so. After all, every other team in our game has taken the time to inform its competitors of the basic information; why should Brazil be any different?

Hopefully this'll get done by Christmas. Until then, enjoy taking two days to play a save!

RegentMan

If this were only a perfect world... :sad:

Hi demarchi!

I was hoping that you could post your team information in the Team Information Thread (http://z9.invisionfree.com/Civ4_ISDG_Alternate/index.php?showtopic=4). That way everyone knows CBR's e-mail, etc., just in case.

And the fact that we need to beat game one by having all of our teams listed first. :D

RegentMan

I do have a Term II Thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=187467); just an FYI... ;)

:lol: i so wish you'd sent that first one!

and you've been in power 2 terms now?!?!

good god what is wrong with this spot!

and you've been in power 2 terms now?!?!
Well, three is you count the "Pre-Term I"... :D

good god what is wrong with this spot!
I could say the same about CFC's presidency... :mischief:

I could say the same about CFC's presidency... :mischief:


But you wouldnt or id round up my gangs of soldiers to eject you from the country.

Yikes! That first note had me scared at first. All fun aside though I've just read through the C3C ISDG and C3B (as CBR was known then) didn't seem "trecherous" as they have been called here. Sure their president cheated, but that was one player on their team and it was almost 2 years ago. I hope we can start fresh when we first make contact. (Speaking of fresh, I wonder if Cat is still playing... :love:)

I think we really need only one UN rep office since it should be a continuality, no matter who runs the office.

Still no reliable way to contact BAT since their email is hit an miss. Maybe posting something general about updating contact information or providing alternatives at the UN would be helpful. Maybe we can PM their turn player there or at their home site.

Done.
Hi holocanthe!

A few of my (CFC) teammates have noticed that using the dgciv4@civfr.com e-mail sometimes doesn't work. We were wondering if there was an alternate e-mail address that we could also use, that way BAT-CFC relations stay at the top of their game!

Thanks,
RegentMan
Oops, I don't have a term III thread yet...

I think we just need one thread for you, considering how used it is. ;)

mainly for spam tbh.

I'm not sure what this is about:

Ellestar of (PAL, game 1) sent this to all teams:
Game 1 info screen 550 BC


It might be in response to something Emperor of EVG posted at the UN about sharing some info between games. Maybe he forgot to attache a screenshot but I'm not sure what screen he means to send. So I said:

That would be cool to know whats going in in game 1. I assume there was supposed to be some attachment, but I don't see any. Please resend and we'll do the same on our next turn.

Thanks,
1889 for Team CFC