Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

The Prologue (Writers Ramblings)

I am going to contribute to the sudden influx of AAR’s with one of my own. Though it will not be a Europa Universalis one, but the glorious Hearts of Iron II, another Paradox game based on the Second World War. It is my favourite of the Paradox games, though I have not played it in recent months.

To that effect, first I had to decide who to play as. I considered the USA, UK, Germany or USSR - the big ones. Germany was my ultimate choice. I prefer the land campaigns, and that’s pretty much all you get with Germany. I’m going to experiment with this game as well, maybe try out some new strategies, or at least work out the finer points of air combat and mass-encirclements.

So, the set-up:

Scenario: 1936-1948 Grand Campaign (No Time-Limit enabled)
Country: Germany
Difficulty: Normal
AI Aggressiveness: Normal

Europe at the ‘36 New Year:

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I will rules this!

German forces:

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I rules with this!

Infantry and some light armour. And an HQ…wooh! I hardly think France is gonna feel threatened by that, let alone the USSR. But it’s what I’ve got, and it’s what I need for my opening moves…

Updates for Part One: The Road to War:

Update One - January 1936 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4358545&postcount=3)
Update Two - February-August 1936 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4360745&postcount=7)
Update Three - August-December 1936 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4360889&postcount=9)
Update Four - January-December 1937 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4361460&postcount=11)
Update Five - January-March 1938 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4364862&postcount=50)
Update Six - April-October 1938 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4365185&postcount=53)
Update Seven - October-December 1938 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4365550&postcount=57)
Update Eight - January-March 1939 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4365814&postcount=60)
Update Nine - April-August 1939 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4365989&postcount=62)
Update Ten - August 1939 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4368403&postcount=75)

Updates for Part Two: European Conflict

Update Eleven - August-October 1939 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4369061&postcount=77)
Update Twelve - October 1939-January 1940 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4373966&postcount=96)
Update Thirteen - January-February 1940 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4378345&postcount=118)
Update Fourteen - February-March 1940 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4379131&postcount=125)
Update Fifteen - March-April 1940 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4384049&postcount=134)
Update Sixteen - April 1940 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4388204&postcount=151)
Update Seventeen - April-May 1940 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4388757&postcount=155)
Update Eighteen - May-July 1940 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4405183&postcount=219)
Update Nineteen - July 1940-January 1941 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4416302&postcount=276)
Update Twenty - January 1941 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4420761&postcount=291)
Update Twenty One - January-May 1941 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4436106&postcount=323)

Updates for Part Three: Operation Barbarossa: The War in the East

Update Twenty Two - May-June 1941 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4440302&postcount=345)
Update Twenty Three - June 1941 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4442033&postcount=358)
Update Twenty Four - July-August 1941 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4442352&postcount=362)
Update Twenty Five - August-October 1941 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4443189&postcount=368)
Update Twenty Six - November 1941 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4445476&postcount=391)
Update Twenty Seven - November 1941-January 1942 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4446141&postcount=394)
Update Twenty Eight - January-May 1942 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4450646&postcount=404)
Update Twenty Nine - May-June 1942 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4451533&postcount=415)
Update Thirty - June-August 1942 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4454427&postcount=459)
Update Thirty One - August-October 1942 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4458494&postcount=470)
Update Thirty Two - October 1942-January 1943 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4466780&postcount=510)
Update Thirty Three - January 1943 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4470214&postcount=520)
Update Thirty Four - January-July 1943, Part One (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4475124&postcount=533)
Update Thirty Five - January-July 1943, Part Two (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4475471&postcount=542)
Update Thirty Six - July-September 1943 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4478364&postcount=564)
Update Thirty Seven - September 1943 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4478478&postcount=568)

Updates for Part Four: Germany returns West

Update Thirty Eight - September 1943-January 1944 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4483199&postcount=605)
Update Thirty Nine - January 1944 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4483321&postcount=610)
Update Forty - January-April 1944 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4490789&postcount=644)
Update Forty One - April-October 1944 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4494008&postcount=669)
Update Forty Two - October-December 1944 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4498422&postcount=693)
Update Forty Three - January 1945 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4498591&postcount=694)
Update Forty Four - January-March 1945 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4502563&postcount=717)
Update Forty Five - March-June 1945 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4530405&postcount=824)

Updates for Part Five: Written by the Victors

Update Forty Six - June 1945-January 1946 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4531102&postcount=831)
Update Forty Seven - January 1946 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4531476&postcount=837)

i will be your destructive counsiler of west eurupe Cue the evil music

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

January 1936

The War Council of Doom was rather small at the beginning of 1936. In fact, it only consisted of Kan’ Sharuminar - Grand Leader of Germany, and IronMan, who was to be an advisor on all things Western-Europe related. This meant that the rather impressive-looking War Council Room, with a massive 50-seater round table at the centre, was a bit empty after the New Year.

Still, it turned out the appointment of IronMan was a good one, as his advice to pursue a more aggressive course of action against the western Allies - Treaty of Versailles be damned - turned out to be quite satisfying. During the first week of January German forces re-entered the Rhineland.

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The opening move

France and Britain did little in response. With this in mind, Kan begin a programme of revitalising Germany and the military.

First up, all old projects were scrapped with the exception of the pocket battleship Graf Spee - due to be commissioned soon - and changed to suit Kan’s military needs. New infantry divisions were to be trained, new artillery and anti-aircraft equipment to be constructed. Companies were given instructions to research new technologies that would increase industrial efficiency with the exception of Messerschmitt, who were to look into a new interceptor aircraft design. The orders were carried out swiftly, and by 6th January all was set.

The rest of January passed with little incident. Great Britain mourned the death of King George V on the 20th (Kan sent a letter expressing his regret a few days later - it’s always good to be polite), and Germany grew stronger through new trade agreements - in particular with Romania and Sweden.

All and all a good start for Germany, and a good omen that she would have a prosperous year ahead…

in my opion hear fuher it would be a wise decision to seek a military allaince with italy and (that nation that's really small that germany allied with in real life luxembourge maybe can't remember) at this time and begin a build up of border troops for several succesive lightning wars were we will use a new tactic by the same name Blitscrieg quikly taking key points and greatly increasing the importance of tanks.

ooc of never played this game just so you know and if we ever exucute some traitors could they say Nein!, Nein! ********! german for swear version of solid waste

in my opion hear fuher it would be a wise decision to seek a military allaince with italy and (that nation that's really small that germany allied with in real life luxembourge maybe can't remember) at this time and begin a build up of border troops for several succesive lightning wars were we will use a new tactic by the same name Blitscrieg quikly taking key points and greatly increasing the importance of tanks.

You may be thinking of Slovakia, which at the moment doesn't exist. I will get round to that. Italy is an interesting one in my HoI games, never quite sure if it's worth the money to ally with them. Blitzkrieg is a strategy that will be researched in an a couple of years time. May get Guderian on it.

Fuhrer? May have to officially change the government titles. I prefer Emperor myself :mischief:

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

February - August 1936


The first half of 1936 passed with little incident for Germany. Now that the Rhineland had been retaken, Kan Sharuminar began a remilitarisation programme to fortify the region. New infantry divisions were posted in the region to oppose the neighbouring French troops, while Anti-Aircraft batteries were completed by the 11th of July.

The government was restyled to suit Kan’s needs. He declared himself Emperor in March, though this was done quietly so no-one got the impression he was showing off. In February he travelled south to Italy to meet with its ruler, Benito Mussolini. They discussed the future of Europe and their respective countries newfound boost, as well as the war Italy was pursuing in Ethiopia. Though no treaties or official announcements of German-Italian friendship was made, Emperor Kan left knowing that relations had most certainly improved.

While Germany stayed quiet, her neighbours certainly did not. Towards the end of February a crisis brewed between Hungary and Czechoslovakia. Kálmán Darány - Prime Minister of Hungary, demanded that Czechoslovakia return former Hungarian territories - namely the entire state of Slovakia. He took advantage of the growing dissatisfaction of the Slovaks towards the unified government, and promised that they would retain some sort of self-government, albeit under Hungarian control.

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Czechoslovakia

Emperor Kan visited Hungary to take part in crisis talks, and publicly announced that Germany would support the Hungarian position. Overwhelmed and unsupported, the Czechoslovakian government relented, and the country was split. Slovakia was officially incorporated into Hungary a few days later. The event did little to damage Germany’s relations across the globe, and significantly improved their relations with Hungary.

Elsewhere in the world, wars raged in Africa and China. Italy annexed Ethiopia into her new empire in April, while the Chinese factions continued to engage in civil war, despite attempts at a cease-fire.

Finally during July, events in Europe heated up again. In Spain, various groups began protesting against the recently installed socialist governments, and refused to back down. The crisis intensified until the 18th July, when the situation exploded into full scale civil war between the Republic government and Nationalist rebels.

The international response was a general splitting of Europe, and a possible sign of things to come. Great Britain immediately announced it would not be sending troops to support the ‘anarchist rabble’, though France and the Soviet Union both sent aid to the Republicans. In response, and encouraged by a successful early Nationalist offensive into Catalonia, both Italy and Germany announced they would be sending volunteers and supplies to their ‘nationalist brothers.’
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The Spanish Civil War begins

As August came around, Kan was content to simply sit back and enjoy the fireworks…

I've never played HOI so I'm not exactly sure how the events play out. Will be following the AAR though.

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

August - December 1936

The Spanish Civil War

The Nationalists were not content to fight a simple guerrilla war with the Republican government. They knew too well that all the enemy needed was the time to mobilise and reorganise their forces and they would be free to pick their battles. The Nationalist army was not willing to give them that chance.

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The First Offensives

Following the early conquest of Barcelona, the Nationalists quickly saw that they needed to break out of southern Spain. Their forces were trapped their and, without supplies, would be picked off easily. As such, during August a fast attack northward - supported by forces from Salamanca and Madrid - shocked the Republican Army into retreat. Combined with an offensive into the northern province of Oviedo, it meant that the Republic Faction had been forced into south-east Spain completely. By the end of August, both sides fortified themselves to lick their wounds and prepare for the next campaign.

In Germany, Emperor Kan was delighted with the development of the new Messerschmitt Me109E interceptor. As soon as the resources were made available in early October construction was begun on the aircraft. Meanwhile, Germany’s industries were becoming more efficient as research companies began to produce results.

There was little else to interest people in international affairs, with the exception of the Spanish civil war. Franklin D. Roosevelt was elected to a second term of office in the United States, while a cease-fire was declared once again among the troubled Chinese factions. In December, the United Kingdom faced an abdication crisis as King Edward VIII announced his decision to marry the previously divorced Wallis Simpson. Parliament told him on no uncertain terms that he could either keep the throne, or marry the American. To do both would be impossible, and would almost certainly cause a constitutional crisis that would threaten to collapse the government. As such, Edward chose to surrender the crown, and pass it to his brother, who became King George VI.

By October, German and Italian forces had arrived in northern Spain, and were to take part in a great campaign to take the eastern coast. This was in response to fresh Republican attacks which threatened to cut off the southern armies once again. The campaign was a success, and by the end of November the Republicans were on the verge of defeat. All that was needed was a final push to take Huelva, and the campaign would be won.

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The final push

The operation was a complete success, and the Nationalists declared the war over on Christmas Day. It was a glorious end to a great year for Germany, and it’s Condor Legion returned to great fanfare and parades, not only victorious in battle, but with many lessons learned…

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congratulations hear Emporer(?) nationalist spain would be a great ally in the years to come.

(i think france will be taken easily with out spanish help but they could be helpful in africa oh when we go to africa i'm becoming the guy for there traveling with the Africka Corps.)

i checked and in wwII germany did ally with luxembourge it's the tiny one province country between you and france

Dell19: Thanks for reading :)
IronMan2055: Luxembourg was occupied by Germany in 1940 and I think formally annexed later. Should we be involved in Africa I'll consider your name ;)

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

January - December 1937

The jubilation of the victory in Spain meant Germany was content to rest on her laurels for a while, and analyse what had been learnt. Prototype Messerschmitt BF-109E’s had been deployed in the civil war, as well as very early dive bombers. This resulted in a fresh interest in the German Luftwaffe during 1937 - physically displayed with the development of Stuka JU-87B bombers, early in the year, as well as with new tactics developed by Ernst Udet.

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The Stuka Dive Bomber, which entered production midway through 1937

In addition, Emperor Kan began to make early decisions for which direction he wanted Germany to go. Above all, he did not want a war with the Western powers for, despite Germany’s expanding forces near the French border, he was worried about the vast resources France, Britain and her Commonwealth had to draw from. To this end, he ordered the construction of the Excalibar Line - an extensive line of fortifications to face off against the French Maginot Line and opposite the Belgian frontier.

However, he was not totally opposed to the idea of expansion, and indeed wished to see Germany restored to her pre-First World War greatness. Hungary’s absorption of Slovakia had given him interesting thoughts, particularly towards Austria and the parts of the Czech Republic with a strong German culture. As such, several German divisions were deployed along the border…just in case.

Elsewhere, the world was stunned when, as a result of an incident at Lugou Bridge on July 7th an engagement between Japanese and Chinese forces began. The situation escalated rapidly, as troops from both side fired upon the other. By the end of the month full-scale war had begun.

The Japanese initiated a massive invasion of northern China from their puppet ally - Manchukuo, which saw the capture of Beijing. The offensive was slow, and at times checked by Chinese counter-attacks, but through sheer perseverance the Japanese worked their way south.

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September 1937 in the Far East

At the end of the year, a Japanese amphibious assault into the province of Nantong completely shocked the Chinese defenders. So much so, that in a few days Nanjing had been captured and the Japanese army were swinging north to join with the northern offensive. Quickly the Chinese government finally accepted the massive danger they faced, and began moving their industries into central China to better serve the war effort.

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German forces at the end of 1937

Germany by now was fast becoming the dominant military state in Europe. In addition, a general by the name Heinz Guderian had finished his theory of a “blitzkrieg” doctrine, which interested the Emperor greatly. However, it called for a large amount of modern equipment - in particular mechanised troops and tanks. At present Germany had neither, except for three Panzerkampfwagen Mark II divisions. This would have to be improved upon if Germany had any hope of surviving in an increasingly hostile world…

i still think Fuher is what you would be called since it translates as leader
now i'll read something else mien fuher

i still think Fuher is what you would be called since it translates as leader
now i'll read something else mien fuher

I find that 'Emperor' translates just as well. In fact, in my dictionary it says "Emperor: Kan' Sharuminar's title, and he's sticking with it."

I'm following this one, it might convince me to buy Heart of Irons 2.

You have failed me for ze last time! *shoots minion*

Alcosta: So I'm advertising now as well? I will do my best. In my opinion it's up there with EU2, though it might be helped by my interest in WW2

Cleric: You sound like my sorta guy. Hired. :p

While i've never played this game and i cannot multitask between beer and strategy very well, i herby make my presence known.
I can take care of all the baby eating business and also provide German swear words as needed.

No, I've never played Hearts of Iron, I should though with my love of World War 2.

shieza no i provide german swears even though i can't spell them and don't now that many. (note from this post it's obvious i cant spell them but anyway man the volksyaggers)

Till: Good....good. The Reich is strong in you. Henceforth you will be known as Darth...Till.
AlCosta: Hmm, then you don't have much excuse. HoI2: Doomsday came out, which extends the game into a hypothetical WW3, and comes with the original game IIRC.

Right, enough blathering. I suppose I better get to work on 1938.

We need an Aircraft carrier and many adavanced type XXI U-boats! Schnell!

Is Doomsday an expansion pack to the original game?

Is Doomsday an expansion pack to the original game?

It is, but as I say I believe it contains the original game.

We need an Aircraft carrier and many adavanced type XXI U-boats! Schnell!

We have new Type VII U-Boats, and I believe I am researching, or have researched, Mark IX at the moment. XXI are a long way off.

I can't find Doomsday anywhere, right now I'm on Amazon, and I see Hearts of Iron. The game looks awesome, it's too bad I can't get it at the moment.

It is, but as I say I believe it contains the original game.



We have new Type VII U-Boats, and I believe I am researching, or have researched, Mark IX at the moment. XXI are a long way off.

We need them now anyway! The snorkel is a most useful tool!

We need them now anyway! The snorkel is a most useful tool!

I shall hereby put you in charge of the Kreigsmarine in future posts, and intensify U-Boat development.

And the snorkel is very, very useful, going by my Silent Hunter III game experiences ;)

We need an Aircraft carrier i agree in real life germany had only one during wwII with several we could prevent the shipping of supplies to Britain, prevent a d-day like event then launch hundreds of planes over the eastern seaboard of the u.s.

yes i over did several how many aircraft carriers should we produce i say about 20 but whats the best we could do Kan

I shall hereby put you in charge of the Kreigsmarine in future posts, and intensify U-Boat development.

And the snorkel is very, very useful, going by my Silent Hunter III game experiences ;)

Yes I love it, and always set the magnetic detonation torpedos for exactly 1 meter under the keel. Even against an Aircraft Carrier it's an INSTANT WIN.

I think AlCosta should be appointed as an advisor for Africa or the East.

I've got plenty of Guiness.

IronMan2055 I don't think they're that essential to any war effort. The only major naval power we may have to face is Britain, and that shall be won through a submarine war.

Cleric You play Silent Hunter 3? Then it's settled, you are in charge of the U-Boat war.

AlCosta IronMan claimed control of Africa, but I shall appoint you to the east in any event of a war against the Bolsheviks. And I don't like Guinness.

but imagine londoners or new yorkers waking up to hundreds of bombers and fighters above thier city its like pearl harbor in a huge city with many more planes and yah blow up some military stuff to so it isn't pointless mayhem

but imagine londoners or new yorkers waking up to hundreds of bombers and fighters above thier city its like pearl harbor in a huge city with many more planes and yah blow up some military stuff to so it isn't pointless mayhem

The Londoners did. For many nights. As did most of England :salute:

AlCosta IronMan claimed control of Africa, but I shall appoint you to the east in any event of a war against the Bolsheviks. And I don't like Guinness.

Fine, we'll compromise, some good old Jack Daniel's.

Fine, we'll compromise, some good old Jack Daniel's.

Jack Daniels is worse than Guinness, buddy. You want some proper Whisky, or at least some Tennants/Stella lager :p

Fine, but we're going to have Russian Vodka when we take over the Bolsheviks. :mischief:

Fine, but we're going to have Russian Vodka when we take over the Bolsheviks. :mischief:

Deal, and the last person to set foot in Moscow buys that vodka.

Vhy is zere a lack of blitzkrieging? I vant to zee dead Frenchmen!

Oh, and unless its too late and you've already done so, I really say you should stay away from an alliance with Italy. Fomr those billion WWII projects I've done for school so far, it looks like the Italians spent more time calling for the Germans to save them than actually winning battles.;)

Vhy is zere a lack of blitzkrieging? I vant to zee dead Frenchmen!

Oh, and unless its too late and you've already done so, I really say you should stay away from an alliance with Italy. Fomr those billion WWII projects I've done for school so far, it looks like the Italians spent more time calling for the Germans to save them than actually winning battles.;)

Blitzkrieg has only just been developed, do try to keep up. :p

As I said a while back, Italy is hit and miss in this game. Sometimes they conquer Africa and take Suez, sometimes they're defeated and invaded before 1941, I shall wait and see.

Bah! I do not care about your zilly excoozez, I vant zat blitz!!!!!;)

Bah! I do not care about your zilly excoozez, I vant zat blitz!!!!!;)

Gimme a break, it's only just 1938! I only have the crappy Mark II Panzers and no motorised infantry. You want blitzkrieg, then you have to prepare for it!

The Omega is now a general of the Emperor's Reich.

This thread has inspired me to play HOI2 again.

I have this game, its so awesome!!

General Nuclear kid reporting for duty :salute:

Id preferebly want to be African, or eastran europe general.

Right: I am unable to create a new post for a while, so here is the Council of Doom:

High Ranks: Emperor Kan' Sharuminar
Lord Till
Grand Advisors
IronMan (African Situation)
AlCosta (Lord of the Russian Situation)
Nuclear kid (Eastern Front)
Others
Cleric (Kriegsmarine)

Be aware gentlemen, I am not wary of replacements. If you dissatisfy me, you will no longer have any influence, if your tactics go wrong, you will be lucky to have any say. Lord Till shall be my executor, my right hand man, my voice. Do not fail him.

Let 1938 begin...

um alcosta and nk have the same job and when we invade france i'll get the wine;)

Ein Volk

Ein Riech

Ein Fuher
The Londoners did. For many nights. As did most of England
not hundreds possibly thousands of planes but what about N.Y.C. with huge craters in the streets and many buildings colapsed

Now I am curious, I shall pop into this thread when I remember to.

I have a few questions, actualy, I'll just start a thread abotu Paradox Interactive.

Hail Fuher Kan! (Can I be the leader of the Luftwafe (SP?) ? I gave you the link to Red orchestra...)

The Flying Scamps, that's got a nice ring to it, commanded by the flying ace Sir prince.

Ironmans right. So if u want ill do southren europe, I've got a master plan for the region :evil:

double post

All these topics keep enticing me to give these games a try, but they're so hard to find for someone without a credit card...

*sharpens axe*
Let's stay focused, meine Herren! There is nothing wrong with a little prattle during peacetime, but we have a world to conquer!
I would forget about Italy as ally, unless there is no better option available. How about Spain?
It would force France split her troops between two borders.

Are there any minor countries, we can take without risking intervention from France/Britain? It would give our infantry something to do and the additional income would help with the production of tanks.

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

January - March 1938

As German power grew, so too did the War Council of Doom. Of particular importance was Cleric and PrinceScamp, who were given control of the Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe respectively. A series of generals, all offering their services and knowledge of particular regions, also came to the Council. To better control so many individuals, the Emperor appointed Lord Till as his right hand man.

Only two issues really dominated the Council in the early months of 1938. Cleric was a fierce advocate of submarine warfare, and demanded better designs than the standard Mark VII U-Boat. As such, it was lucky that a new design was completed in January - the Mark IX - and production was begun.

The second was a growing desire to show Germany’s power on the international stage. There was a debate on how to do this without angering the western powers, but it became fairly clear from the beginning that it would require the annexation of a minor country. Drawing from the 1936 Hungary-Czechoslovakia Crisis as a guide, it was decided that Austria was to be incorporated into the Empire. As such, Lord Till was sent there to “discuss” German-Austrian relations.

Elsewhere, the world was quiet, though tension was building. Rumours were growing that JosephStalinator - ruler of the Soviet Union - had begun a purge of Russian commanders. Such barbarised behaviour was only to be expected of the Bolsheviks. Meanwhile, Japan’s northern offensive had gathered speed, and by March had conquered a third of China.

Lord Till’s visit to Austria was a stunning success. No one was quite sure how he managed to threaten the Austrian leaders, but Kan assumed it involved allegations of their private life, and the reminder that 28 German divisions were deployed across the border. Regardless, the “Anschluss” of Austria into Germany took place on the 24th of March.

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The expansion begins

Britain and France protested very little…

Excellent! The Schnitzel supply has been secured.

Excellent! The Schnitzel supply has been secured.

My translator says chips?

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

April - October 1938

Following the annexation of Austria, Emperor returned to the redevelopment of the German military according to the rules of “blitzkrieg.” New infantry training methods were developed, and new equipment constructed - so much so that old divisions had to be retrained and resupplied.

In addition, new armour divisions were being constructed, though new tanks were being developed at a remarkable pace. Indeed, the Panzer Mark II was redesigned and upgraded before the first batch were constructed! Aircraft squadrons were formed, and development went ahead into motorised transports capable of transporting infantry vast distances.

The first of the Mark IX U-Boats came into service, to Lord Admiral Cleric’s delight, and funding was granted to the naval headquarters to develop new methods and tactics for his fleet.

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A Type-IX U-Boat

Economically, the addition of Austria contributed greatly to the industrial might of Germany, as did the incorporation of her existing military. And in mid-September, the Excalibar Line was completed on schedule in a lavish ceremony attended by the Emperor himself.

However, the year was not without crisis (indeed, Kan would have considered it a disappointment if such a thing happened.) There was continued trouble in the Czech Republic, as more minorities demanded independence following the Hungarian absorption of Slovakia. The German population on the border regions demanded they be returned to Germany proper, and the Emperor was quick to use this to advantage. He formally demanded the Sudetenland - the region they were in - to be annexed into Germany.

As it turned out, the western powers of France and Britain weren’t so keen on seeing Germany grow this time, and stepped in. The Czechs saw this as a sign that they would be aided if it came to war, and as such refused the German demands. War seemed inevitable.

Suddenly realising the prospect of another European war, the British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain quickly flew to Germany to begin talks with the Emperor. These went without incident, and it was agreed that the nations of Britain, France, Germany, the Czech Republic, Italy and Hungary would be represented at a conference in Munich on the 29th September.

For the Czech’s, the whole meeting was a farce, for the German’s - a victory. By simply promising that all he wished was to see the German people reunited, and that he had no desire for war, the Emperor quickly managed to convince the Allies that reclaiming the Sudetenland was the right way to go, and they urged the Czechs to comply. The Italians agreed, as did the Hungarians, and as such the Czech ambassadors found themselves completely isolated. They had flown to Munich to secure the Czech Republics borders, and returned to literally half a country.

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Europe after the Munich Conference

Neville Chamberlain returned to Britain, declaring “Peace in our time,” and Europe gave a sigh of relief. The Emperor however, though pleased with events, was greatly shaken by the near clash of arms with the western powers. He realised that if he wanted to reclaim the old German territories in Poland, he would have to prepare for a potential war…

Ulyaoth Indeed, they are difficult to find. I got Hearts of Iron 2 on the release date, haven't seen it since. I was lucky enough to find EU2 by chance...first Paradox game I got and it led me into a world of fun.
Nuclear Kid I should have clarified that I intended both of you to be the Russian advisors for the northern and southern fronts - Russia is a big place;) . Seeing as you're happy with southern europe, I'll put you there, but if you want to be transferred back to Russia, just gimme a shout.

War Council of Doom

First Circle:

Emperor Kan' Sharuminar
Lord Till
Lord Admiral Cleric
Lord Air Marshall PrinceScamp

Second Circle:

Field Marshall IronMan: African Advisor
Field Marshall AlCosta: Eastern Theatre Advisor
Field Marshall Nuclear Kid: Southern Europe Advisor

My translator says chips?
Wiener Schnitzel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiener_schnitzel) means something like "meaning veal fillet Viennese style". It is one of the first things a German associates with Austria. ;)

Btw, does the game have an inbuild story line, or are you deliberately replaying the build up to WW2?

Btw, does the game have an inbuild story line, or are you deliberately replaying the build up to WW2?

The story element is pretty much my own. It's the same as EU2 - take control of a country, build up it's economy and gain several events. However the 'Grand Campaign' begins in 1936, allowing some time to build up to the war.

It can have some interesting results - I was genuinely surprised that Slovakia was ceded to Hungary.

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

October - December 1938


In the aftermath of the Munich Conference, all European countries withdrew in order to recuperate and decide on the best course of action. Despite Chamberlain’s announcement of peace, one thing was becoming painfully clear - war was inevitable.

To this end, Emperor Kan Sharuminar summoned his War Council of Doom at the end of 1938 to review Germany’s power and decide on future actions.

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In order of size, the top ten powers in each field.

The results were simply delightful. For the land forces, to have so much strength in the infantry - especially considering they were the most advanced infantry in Europe - was astounding. Motorised infantry divisions were being trained, and the new Panzerkampfwagen III had just been developed. Two thirds of the armed forces were deployed in the west along the Excalibar Line, which itself was being strengthened.

The Kriegsmarine’s strength was as expected, and was only able to be in the top ten thanks to the U-Boat strength. Lord Admiral Cleric was delighted though, and assured the Emperor that it would be the U-Boats that would win any war against Britain, rather than surface vessels.

Finally, to see that Germany’s embracing of air power was paying off strength- wise was very reassuring. Fortress Germany was indeed strengthened by a strong airborne defence. Emperor Kan gave Lord Air Marshall Prince Scamp his word that more planes would be constructed soon, and that funding was being dedicated to new interceptor designs.

In three short years then, Germany had been totally transformed. Her military was a threat to any other nation, her industrial might was unequalled in Europe, and she had returned to the world stage successfully. Just one small thorn remained in her side - the issue of the return of Danzig and former German lands from Poland…

Most excellent, in case of a clash with western powers, we should conquer france as soon as possible. Their ports are invaluable as crossing the La Manche channel is a slow and dangerous affair.

As a sidenote you made me install SH 3 again Kan. I hope you are happy. *submerges*

Let NK take it all, I'm out.

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

January - March 1939


As Kan privately said to himself before, war was inevitable.

He hoped it wasn’t, but that seemed to be the case. The mass build-up of troops, the reinvigoration of Germans to reclaim lost territories, the victories of Austria and at Munich…

There was still one final decision to be made, one final nail in the coffin. The Czech Republic - or what was left of it - was crumbling. The debacles of the past three years had caused the government to collapse, and the internal workings were crumbling. Germany had a choice - she could allow the country to remain independent despite the situation, or she could invade and occupy by force. Given what had happened at Munich, it was the difference between a possible peace in Europe, or the undoubted fact that there would be a new European war.

The Emperor thought long and hard about it, but there was only one conclusion. There was only one road for Germany to travel. War was inevitable.

Since Alcostas gone, ill do eastren europe (russia, Poland, greece, ect.)

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

March - August 1939

The British response to the German annexation of the Czech Republic was almost immediate. On the 30th July they offered Poland - the obvious target of Germany’s future expansion plans - an offer to join their alliance, which was accepted. It was a clear statement that if Germany was to mess with Poland, they would see an Allied response.

Emperor Kan had foreseen this, of course. For the past year he had been developing good relations with Spain, Italy and Hungary in the preparation of creating an “Axis” alliance. The time wasn’t quite right though, he hoped to get all three nations to join at a time it would do the most psychological damage.

In addition, he began the quiet mobilisation of German forces. All U-Boats were shifted to Kiel, while the eastern land forces were redeployed against the Polish border. At all times, Kan did not want a war, but he was fully prepared for one.

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The Eastern Front

The obvious worry was the eternal German fear - a two front war. However the Council argued that not only was the forces opposing France sufficient, they could launch an offensive war at the present time against them in addition to a war against Poland.

While Kan appreciated these sentiments, he wanted to make sure at least one front would be secure. As such, he sent Lord Till on a mission to kill two birds with one stone. He was sent to negotiate a deal with Soviet Russia.

The deal was fairly simple on paper. Poland would be split between Germany and Russia, Russia would send supplies to Germany, there would be peace in the east. However it went deeper than that - not only did it secure the east and prevent a two-front war, it effectively ended the threat of a blockade by the British Royal Navy. They could prevent imports coming by sea as much as they wanted - Russia would take care of it.

As such, the historic Molotov-Till Pact was signed on August 24th, and the Emperor sighed in relief. One enemy at a time, one conquest after another.

As such, he removed himself from planning and looking ahead and sent a message to Poland. Either they would surrender Danzig and the region around it, or they would face war…




To all: So that's it then, we're about to face the second world war, assuming Poland doesn't surrender Danzig. I ask the council for their opinions and what they believe should be done. I probably won't post another story update until tommorow, but I'll try to get an Order of Battle report regarding the Polish front sometime tonight.

I suggest we build some more planes seeing as we only have 12 interceptors. However, the British Navy is a huge threat, we need a larger navy that can be supported by my Stukas.

12 squadrons of interceptors, dear sir, and we have plenty of Stukas.

I agree that we need more planes though. When the U-Boat production run is ended I will switch to planes.

Ahh, ok, that's much better. Mwha wha ha a!

Just one request, don't use my bombers to scare pople instead of taking out important targets.

take our army in Sttettin, and advance into Danzig.

To Protect Sttettin, move 1 of the armys in the province south of it, and move it there

Questio about the game: The polish inf in real life was using antiquated equipment, in the game do they have the same stats as our infantry?

We do need aircraft carriers and battleships, it will make our job of defeating Britain much more easier. Of course for now, do build more planes, seeing as they will be needed for aircraft carriers, that is if you approve of this plan Mein Furher.

Sidenote, I just totally ousted a Hunt I destroyer with one torpedo fired from the aft tube, it did an amazing job of turning 90 degrees and directly hitting the propulsion blowing it high sky. Mwhahahaha I dont remember why did I uninstall the game at all.

PrinceScamp Military tagets are our primary target for the Luftwaffe.

Regarding the Polish question: they won't be a threat technology-wise. Their industry stength means it's very unlikely they're able to match our troops man to man. In a month they will be gone.

Nuclear kid I agree, but a move into Danzig will be preceded by an attack into Poznan and then into Poland proper. There is no need to protect Stettin, as there will be noone to protect the province from :lol:

Cleric Glad to see you're getting back into Silent Hunter. It is a great game. I can't understand how a game that requires you to patiently sit for half an hour before launching an attack can be such fun, but it is!

Regarding the battleships and carriers, I am tempted, but I'm going to have to over-rule you. I've given far to much resources to U-Boats than I normally do, so you'll have to do with that. Besides, given the strength of the Royal Navy you can see a surface fleet has no chance against them


And now, the Order of Battle against Poland:

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be prepared for a polish attack on Elbing and Konigsper. also i think it would be best to try to reach Cracow and Warsaw as soon as possible Mien Fuher


Field Marshall
Ironman2055

Well at least we need the Bismarck, if not now, then later.

Sadly we may have to expect a temporary loss of Elbing if our troops are not fast enough. Konigsburg should be fine.

Remember at all times IronMan - the principles of "blitzkrieg" demand the desruction of armies, not cities. They are but secondary targets in the upcoming campaign.

Cleric: The Bismarck was sunk on her maiden voyage, do you really want such a vessel?

I am considering expanding our navy, don't worry ;)

also congats on gaining control of your Home-land Mien Fuher

And now, the Order of Battle against Poland:

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Were's field Marshal Nuclear kid :lol: ?

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

August 1939


The final week of August saw a sudden flurry of activity in the Council of Doom. Commanders had to be assigned, armies to be designated, plans to be developed in the event of war. By the 26th it was complete, and all Germany had to do was await Lord Till’s return from Poland, where he was delivering the demand for Danzig.

The result was as expected:

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Whups, gone and started a world war…how silly.

Britain and France immediately declared war on Germany, and brought in the Commonwealth and any allies into the party. In Germany itself, the news was greeted with quiet worry - her armies had yet to prove themselves in battle.

The plan for the invasion of Poland was relatively straightforward, and divided into two phases under the name Operation: Donar. Phase One (shown in red, below) was the encirclement and destruction of Poland’s forward armies. If all went according to plan, it would wipe out the bulk of her defences, and allow Phase Two (in blue) to begin, in which major cities would be taken and victory declared. Anything beyond that would be considered a ‘mopping-up’ scenario.

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Operation: Donar

In the west, the armies would stay on the defensive. The only major action would be to put the Grand Fleet to sea, and have them patrol the Skagerrak Strait - protecting the entry to the Baltic Sea. The U-Boat armada would not be sent out just yet.

The operations into Poland would begin in a mere six hours…

Go, go, go! When we 'liberate' France I may post a story. Record tonnage for me 21,447.

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

30th August - 7th October 1939

The Luftwaffe was the first to see action, as planes engaged in fighting over west Germany and against targets in Poland. Two hours after the bombardment began, German forces crossed the border and engaged the enemy. The Polish fell back on all fronts.

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Polish artillery is overrun on the border

Phase One of Operation Donar was active, and everything was going according to plan. By the 4th September Lt. General Hopners panzers were in Radom - the province south of Warsaw.

The Poles were not entirely willing to give in, however, and began an immediate offensive into Eastern Prussia. This was entirely expected by Emperor Kan, and indeed most of the region had no ground defences to fight back with. While the German people were unhappy with the loss of ground, the events of September 17th-22nd quickly made up for it, as Phase One came to it’s bloody conclusion. Polish armies were by now surrounded in the north and south, including a massive 11 division army in Elbing. The German attack was swift and brutal, and effectively wiped out 21 divisions - a third of Poland’s strength.

After a brief resting period, Phase Two was begun - this time focusing on the capture of important cities - above all Warsaw, Lvov and Grodno. By now the Soviet Union had honoured the Till-Molotov Pact and invaded eastern Poland. The Allies did not declare war on them.

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Warsaw surrounded

By October it was effectively over. Resistance in Warsaw crumbled on the 3rd, and the city was captured on the 6th. The next day Poland surrendered to Germany…

Interlude One

Just a pretty important question for the Council: the invasion of France. I reckon that it will take one to two months to defeat them, and since our troops from the east won't be deployed until the end of October, this means we'll be facing harsher weather and a possible winter campaign - not good.

However, if we wait until the spring of 1940, we risk having France reinforce herself, along with allied reinforcements. This could seriously lengthen a campaign against them, though at the same time it allows our armies to be reinforced.

Meanwhile, the attack into Poland went quite well, in my opinion - in particular the encirclements, which is something I'm not very good at. I shall look into it more. And the air war went very well too :goodjob:

I am most pelased with the performance of my stukas. The polish swordsmen stood no chance. Can you us a picture of France, Belgium and Holland and our border there?

As long as we can outproduce France, i would suggest to wait. Waiting harbours the risk of slower progress. Rushing risks high casulties, which might even prevent us from holding what we have conquered.
If we could take a couple of fortifications before winter arrives, it would help us when we start the invasion in earnest, however.

What about getting Italy to attck their south?

Also, is the Maginold Line in the game? What about the forest (I forget it's name).

PrinceScamp: Indeed they were most helpful in Poland, and in the west the BF-109's are blocking the RAF and French squadrons.

The German-French-Belgian border:

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The Maginot line is there (in the three eastern-most French provinces), which means we have to invade through Belgium. Our options there are to blast our way straight through and attack down the channel, or go through the Ardennes forest (is the one you're thinking of). The latter makes more sense to me. I don't see any point in attacking the Netherlands.

Till: I agree on waiting. I'll try and get more armour/mechanised forces for the offensive. Sadly there's no way we can attack France directly - the fortifications completely prevent that, and I'm only declaring war on Belgium at the last minute.

Cheers for the input chaps :goodjob:

Yes, more panzers will be nice for blitzing France. How vulnerable is the Maginot Line from the back? or would it have the same defense value? I say we do send an army through the Ardennes. Securing Normandy would be a good idea to try and prevent the British landing more troops, unless they already have them with the expeditionary force, in that case, encirclement and complete destruction is in order. Paris will also be a good target to take out, but with those huge armies on the Maginot line, they need to be drawn out of the fortifications.

Attacking from behind has no effect, however if we encircle the entire line and attack from multiple directions it will give us an advantage. And I fully expect those 50 divisions placed there will start moving very quickly when we go through Belgium!

I dont see the grand campaign on my HoI2 =(

Grand Campaign = 1936 Scenario, it's a term that came from EU2 and I kinda stick with it.

I think we should wait produce many panzers during this time and all winter bomb the heck out of france.

Yes, we should bomb their factories and any armoured divisions that are caught in the open.

EDIT: What are the lttle black symbols on the map for?

Grand Campaign = 1936 Scenario, it's a term that came from EU2 and I kinda stick with it.

Years are used for the folders though in EU2. :)

Years are used for the folders though in EU2. :)

True, true, but I rarely delve into the Paradox folders.

Gonna follow the general advice of the Council, bit pointless to have it otherwise. We have no strategic bombers to attack factories, but I will launch tactical strikes at that rather large army on the French border. I'll put the U-Boat fleet ino the North Sea as well.

*Mr. Burns "excellent"*

quick question, if i was to try to get hearts of iron 2, would I be able to get it? and would a place like Futureshop or Electronic Boutique carry it? i have yet to see it in either place but i hope to find it

Ich bin der Reichsmarschall der Luftwaffe!

It is unlikely you will find it at Futureshop or Wal*Mart or any of those stores.

ah, so what place is likely to carry it?

@Captain It is a tough game to find off-line, I only got mine on release day. Try looking around for Hearts of Iron II: Doomsday, it was more recently released, and I believe it features the full original game as well as it's expansion.

@PrinceScamp Indeed, your Luftwaffe are performing exceptionally well.

Should hopefully have an update in the next couple of hours.

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

8th October 1939 - 1st January 1940

With the full of Poland, all eastern forces began the redeployment to the western front. They were expected to take around two weeks, so the Council was called to discuss the “French Problem.”

The options were simple - strike now and risk a winter campaign, but maximise surprise, or strike in the spring of 1940, at a time when both France and Germany were stronger. The Council voted unanimously that waiting was the better option. Fresh Panzer Mark III’s, Messerschmitts and motorised infantry would be ready by the spring, and it meant that Germany would have a chance to test her other military arms - the U-Boats and the Luftwaffe - over the winter months.

With that, bombing raids into Alsace-Lorraine - where the French positions were strongest - begun on the 12th October. Though they achieved little in terms of damage, they managed to displace many French units and almost certainly stopped them from launching an offensive into Germany until the end of October, when reinforcements from Poland fortified the position further. The completion of the Excalibar Line extensions on the 5th November - now making it the equal of the Maginot Line in some places - ended any fears of a French offensive, especially as the first snow of winter was falling in the region.

The bombing raids ended around this time as well, as the harsh weather was making it difficult to fly. Instead the Luftwaffe switched to a full defensive position, deflecting the RAF and French squadrons attempted to bomb factories and air defences. This operation was a complete success, and by the end of December there were few air attacks from the Allies.

Elsewhere, the war in China continued. By now Japanese forces had control of half the country, but the offensive had slowed considerably. The official Japanese line was that they believed that China had been so weakened they were no longer a major threat, and this allowed Japan to concentrate elsewhere. No-one was entirely sure what this meant, but both Britain and France were no doubt alarmed for the safety of their colonies in the region

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The Sino-Japanese War continues

Germany was not the only continent in Europe interested in expansion. After the official partitioning of Poland between Germany and the Soviet Union, JosephStalinator began to look towards the smaller countries in eastern Europe. Part of the Molotov-Till Pact meant that Germany would turn a blind eye to Soviet activities there - particularly concerning the Baltic states and Finland. As such, the news that the Soviets had declared war on Finland on the 17th November was largely ignored by the Council of Doom.

What was not ignored was the inability of the Red Army to launch an effective attack. Indeed, they were held in check on all fronts, with the exception of in eastern Oulu. For the first time in Emperor Kan’s mind, the idea of a successful invasion of Russia began to form.

Lord Admiral Cleric was kept busy throughout the early winter when Kan allowed him to let loose some of his U-Boats. Throughout October they began operations into the North Sea - with little luck - before six flotillas were allowed to travel to the North Sea. This was also largely unsuccessful, however it gave Rear Admiral Karl Dönitz some field experience - enough so for him to submit a massive report to Lord Cleric on submarine warfare, tactics and convoy raiding that was immediately utilised.

The only other action the Kriegsmarine saw was on the 29th November, when action between British and German ships caused the Altmark incident. Until this point the Emperor had been considering the occupation of Denmark and Norway to better protect the Baltic Sea as well as supplies from Sweden, and this incident settled his mind.

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Altmark Incident

As a result of this, it was decided that the six fresh infantry divisions that became part of the German army a few days later would fortify the Danish border.

Finally, the Council was called into session on the 1st January for their standard military review. The results were very pleasing -

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In order of size, the individual militaries

Germany was now the armoured force in Europe, and had more divisions being trained. The amount of motorised infantry had tripled in the past year, and more were on their way - this would mean France’s military could be easily outmanoeuvred, especially with the Luftwaffe defending them.

For the German air force was still the greatest in the world - at least when it came to interceptors. This would mean the definite dominance over (literally) the battlefield, especially when combined with the might of the Stuka dive bombers. They were still lacking in strategic bombers and - more importantly in the Emperor’s opinion - naval bombers to take on the Royal Navy.

The Kriegsmarine was the only weak spot, but this was a given. Despite Cleric’s demands for a larger surface fleet, the Emperor simply didn’t have the resources to spare. However, the U-Boat fleet had nearly doubled in size over the year, and it was hoped that when France fell - and it would fall - the access to the Atlantic would mean they would have a chance to truly show their power.

Everything was going so well…

EDIT: What are the lttle black symbols on the map for?
i think the x's are fortified lines the runways which look like a's are airfields and the the sort of arrow looking things are anti- aircraft


i also think we should continue peace with russia and later get them as allies if we stay away from there we can control africa and western europe with more ease

EDIT: What are the lttle black symbols on the map for?

Didn't see this, sorry.

The two 'xx' show a land fort. The other black symbol shows anti-air batteries.

yay i was right give me a medal made from a cookie.

I agree that we should build some navalbombers. However having some strategic bombers will also be useful, however we should focus more on the naval bombers for the time being until we have dessimated the Allied navy.

Failure will not be tolerated. Air support will be critical against Britains naval power. We can take care of Destroyers and Cruisers fairly easily, but the Battleships and Aircraft Carriers are hard to approach as they travel in large convoys. As soon as France is crushed under the boot of SS trupen, the ports will increase our effectivnes in the tonnage war against Britain.

I may not be in das Reichs high command but may i reccomend we keep good relations with the communists until the allies have been completely defeated

see the german volk agree with me ( just post what you want and Kan will likely say yes i think we need some one for asia and the americas)

Yes, we should keep them friends until we have eliminated France, but make sure we have some guards on the border, just in case.

EDIT: Kan, you are the kaiser now.

Du bist der Kaiser, Kan!

sure if wanted i'll take the americas if and when we get there

I say we finish off Britain completely first, before turning onto any new ventures in the east. Fighting a two front war is never good.

Aye, yeah, we should have Britain finished off before turning to the east. Of course, I would not be surprised if Russia backstabs us. Britain could pay them nicely.

That's a risk we have to take. We just can't turn west without Britain being neutralized. They are too much of a threat.

yeah, leaving Britian open and alive is too big of a threat, the soviet union combined with Britian could cause a two front war, and severe supply problems

The Canadians are hostile to us i believe, once Britian is defeated it would be a good idea to destroy the Canadian atlantic shipping completely, it would make movement for the Kreigsmarine much easier.

Wouldn't Canada peace out if Britain lost? Unless the states enters the war then they might be like, hey, we have an OCEAN betweens us and the STATES to our south.

After Britain is taken and Norway, we will be able to blockade the shipping lanes into Russia. We will also need to take Egypt.

Sorry gentlemen, we have several major problems regarding the Britain/Russia problem.

1. We have no transports. Regardless of how much we decimate the Royal Navy/Air Force, that's a pretty big problem in getting troops across the channel :lol:

2. An invasion of Britain will almost certainly draw in the United States. This will end any chances of peace with the Commonwealth and British Remnant.

3. Even if we don't invade Russia, it will require the deployment of a massive army just to make sure they don't backstab us. And every month that goes by means they grow stronger while our own resources dwindle. By 1943/44 I believe they will reach equal status with us, and still have the manpower to draw from.

Regardless, this is a debate for after the France invasion. I've set a tentative launch date for March 15th, which will be about two weeks after the last of our new Panzer Corps are deployed, as well as some fresh motorised infantry. The resources will then be reassigned to constructing naval bombers. In addition, after the fall of France I'll reconsider the question of constructing a surface fleet.

@CaptainYou simply need to post to be in the Council :)

Kan? if its okay with you i'd like to apply to join your Reichs Millitary Forces

wherever i get stationed i'll do my best

Do we have anyone on the Western Front yet? (one of us that is).

For France, our current plan will have to suffice until we are almost ready to invade. Then we can see what's up then.

To be fair, for ground forces I'm going to put up maps and unit strengths/enemy intelligence and see what the council votes on.

However, if you want Captain, you can be chief advisor for the western front, which means I'll trust your word more. You'll be thrown straight into the fire though, what with the upcoming offensive :lol:

Edit: Looks like it may be a quiet day for me. I may even be able to update both this AND my First World War AAR. Bright day!

Can't we just bomb Britain to a point, where they'll have to rebuild for a few years, giving us time to lay the smack down on Russia?

We need to attack Russia at the first light of spring. Russia is way to much of a threat, and eventually, war will be declared by them, so we must attack while we have the advantage.

'bout we save the game before invading Brittany and see if the US will declare war on us

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

2nd January - 15th February 1940


After the New Year, it was decided to begin offensive operations into France through the might of the Luftwaffe. At first it was just simple fighter sweeping missions, but then the tactical bombers were deployed to attack the nearby runways in Metz and then Chaumont. These reduced the airfields to rubble in a short time, forcing the Allied airforces to be deployed deeper into France.

On the 15th, the U-Boat flotillas that had been patrolling the Atlantic returned to Germany, having destroyed several dozen transports (and in a few cases, their escorts.) It was a delightful trial run for the U-Boat armada, and as such their redeployment would be top priority when the ports of France became available. For now, the crews were to enjoy a well earned rest.

As the Emperor and his staff eagerly awaited the withdrawal of the winter snows, a sudden crisis developed in southern Europe. Hungary had declared war on Yugoslavia! While Emperor Kan sent words of support to the nation - they were practically allies by now - he also was forced to redeploy fifteen German divisions to the border. This was simply in case Yugoslavia decided to join the Allies for support, thus putting them at war with Germany.

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The Yugoslavian situation, 15th February

In the two weeks that followed the war declaration (On the 2nd February), the Hungarians managed a successful offensive into Osijek, thus drawing more Yugoslavian divisions away from the border. This opened an interesting opportunity for Germany to declare war herself, and launch an invasion that would allow her to gain access to the Mediterranean, as well as see the creation of a formal German-Hungarian alliance.

As ever, however, he decided to put the decision before the Council rather than making any rash decisions…

Invade Yugoslavia, so Hungary will join the Axis

Yugoslavia is easy pickings for the Wehrmacht, but the area is ideal for guerilla operations and dissent will be hard to crush.

Maribor, Ljuana (SP?), Zagreb and Rijeka should beome ours. I see a nice big airfield to the south of Rijeka, we should take that too. We should also take Banja Luka.

Just make sure none of our Generals go into Sarajevo. Especialy if they are next in line for the leadership.

Support for the Yugoslavian campaign seems high - I'll send some more infantry this way - the winter may continue through to April, so the French invasion may be postponed.

I agree with Prince Scamp's objectives, and they will be our primary ones - that one with the airfield also has a large port, which is the ultimate goal. We'll also support the Hungarian invasions - any provinces can be exchanged after annexation.

@Cleric: Indeed, guerrilla warfare will be a problem. We need the region if we want to have a decent chance of supporting Italy if they decide to invade Greece or North Africa. We should be able to create Croatia as a puppet state, which will help lower the strain on our military.

well as far as the western front goes, i'd be interested in some armour if you can produce some and i know having bombers around will be useful, also if its okay with the Reichs High Command, i would like a command jeep so i can move with the troops, the french will be of no concern by the end of the campaign

I don't expect Yugoslavia to give any trouble with it's standing military. Partisians, we will see.

(For some reason I decided to use the Christmas background today, don't ask why EDIT: I got sick of all that white, too bright on this LCD)

Captain: I'll have a word with Volkswagen and see if they can spare a car ;)

Small update folks, but my intention was to get up to March 1st, which I did :D

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

15th February 1940- 1st March 1940

It was decided by the council that an attack into Yugoslavia would bring more advantages than disadvantages. As such, on the 15th February Emperor Kan announced the formation of the Germanic-Hungarian Alliance, and the first step towards the creation of an Axis Alliance.

The recently redeployed divisions began an immediate southern offensive into Yugoslavia, supported by the planes of the Luftwaffe. Despite the heavy snowfall and hilly terrain, they quickly gained the advantage, forcing the Yugoslav armies into retreat and capturing the northernmost provinces of Maribor and Ljubljana by the 20th.

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German Infantry lead the offensive into Yugoslavia

From here the Germans pressed deeper into the county, capturing both Bjelovar and Rijeka. However from here they were held in check by a surprise Yugoslavian counterattack using fresh troops in Zagreb, halting the offensive. By now, at the end of February and after two weeks of continuous fighting, it was clear the harsh weather and terrain was taking it’s toll.

As a result, the Emperor called a halt to any offensives for the next two weeks as fresh divisions - including the untested Panzer Mark III divisions - were brought in from the French and Dutch borders. The winter weather had intensified there, meaning an invasion of France could not take place in March. As such, the German forces in Yugoslavia had a whole month to break the enemies back…

Captain, will this do for overseeing the invasion? I've been told it was no problem to get a hold of - a lot have been produced for all the commanders of the western front.

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Ahh kuberwagon. *memories from CoD of SAS soldiers in a kuberwagon getting hit by a panzerfaust*

Watch out for the anti-tank weapons.

Excellent progress so far.

Jawol Mien Herr, it shall work great

(btw, nice use of panzers, awesome game)

This story inspired me to get Hearts of Iron II.:D

But I'm kinda confused.... I can't seem to keep my troops supplied, have reinforcements coming, and keep my economy intact at the same time..... Any tips?:)

Sorry, I have never played HoI II, but that's the perfect question to ask in this thread (I want to keep it alive).
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=180885

From what game is that? (the alst screenie)

BTW create a Croatian puppet state, it's where I live lol.

oh its a game called Codename: Panzers Phase one

or maybe Phase two

This story inspired me to get Hearts of Iron II.:D

But I'm kinda confused.... I can't seem to keep my troops supplied, have reinforcements coming, and keep my economy intact at the same time..... Any tips?:)

I'll try and answer properly later tonight. Which country are you playing as (for a beginner, I would recommend Germany or the Soviet Union).

Try these for now HoI2 Wiki (http://hoi2.nsen.ch/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)
HoI2 Paradox Forums (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=255)

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

2nd March - 2nd April 1940

The “Second Offensive” against Yugoslavia did not get off to a good start. Between the 9th and 18th of March German forces attempted another push south, meeting failure on all fronts. However, bolstered by the retreat of the snows and the arrival of fresh units - including Panzer units - from the west - the armies pressed harder than was expected of them, and as such achieved the conquest of Zagreb and Splitt on the 23rd and the 28th respectively.

It was discovered soon afterwards, that British and French units were deployed in Yugoslavia to aid the defence! This came as a rather unpleasant shock to Emperor Kan - if they could afford to divert troops to the Balkans, then they must be fully prepared for a campaign in France.

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The German-Hungarian offensive

Regardless, by the 2nd April the snows had retreated in the west - spring had finally broken in France. And similarly, so too would the Wehrmacht. Soon, the Battle of France would begin…


*Kan's note: another short update, I didn't expect the winter to be over so soon. Time to gather reports and intelligence data for the Council. This shall be the Greatest Campaign for us all!

stupid french, they greatly under estimate me, i'll prepare my command vehicle and meet the Emperor in Paris

lets only hope we havent diverted too many resources from our main goal

The enemy sometimes makes foolish errors. Let's hope it was that and not a sign of strength.

if the enemy was prepared well enough to hold us off plus have extra troops they would have been smarter to try and blunt our spearhead before we even begin, but they choose instead to fortify a poor nation on the verge of collapse anyway

no i think this is just french foolishness

Well, in Yugoslavia we musttake Zenica and that airfield and port and create Croatia as a puppet regime.
France, well, we are still waiting for the info.

Interlude Two

Gentlemen, this is the most important battle yet. If any of you require additional information or resources, do not hesitate to ask. The Allies must feel the cold steel of our swords as we strike France down quickly and efficiently. Germany's hour is at hand!

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Terrain of provinces

Order Of Battle

GERMANY

Aachan
1 Headquarters Division
34 Infantry Divisions
3 Panzer Divisions
Cologne
1 Headquarters Division
6 Panzer Divisions
9 Motorised Infantry Divisions
Saarbrucken
10 Infantry Divisions
Stuttgart
1 Headquarters Division
17 Infantry Divisions
Freiburg
14 Infantry Divisions

Allied Forces
Intelligence may be inaccurate

BELGIUM

Liege
5 Infantry Divisions
Bastogne
4 Infantry Divisions
1 Cavalry Divisions

FRANCE

Valenciennes
7 Divisions
Reins
4 Divisions
Mete
3 Divisions
Strasbourg
37 Divisions
Muhouse
28 Divisions


As such, I propose the following possible plan. The initial offensive will take place through Belgium, where the Allies are expecting us. Indeed, our northern forces will give the impression that we are attempting a repeat of the First World War Schlieffen Plan, and are intending on reaching the Channel.

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The Opening Offensive

From here I am in favour of shocking the Allies by pushing further south (in blue), behind the Maginot line. This will require taking advantage of the difficult terrain in the Ardennes, and using our motorised infantry to press the advantage. With the rear lines affected, the Maginot defences will be forced to displace, possibly allowing an offensive (in green) by the defence forces there.

In addition, the northern army will swing round and press for the Channel, thus cutting off and allowing for the destruction of any Allied armies north of the position.

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Kan’s Proposal

Following the successful implementation of this plan, we will be able to regroup our forces and press for the complete conquest of northern France. We will need to quickly seize control of the Channel ports to defend against British landings, as well as conquer Paris to completely demoralise the French people…

Ghent will need to be taken quickly too so they don't land troops behind us. So far sounds good. I'll wait and see the other councillor's idea first.

Ghent will need to be taken quickly too so they don't land troops behind us.

We leave Ghent, Dunkirk, Lille and Calais alone until the encirclement is complete. After that we close in and destroy any enemy divisions that are trapped in there :)

Right. Ok.

I would like to become the head of the Abwehr (Intelligence). I will infiltrate Los Alamos and Oak Ridge! My agents will NOT wear Hitler... er... Kan mustaches. I promise. That would totally give them away. Are nukes supported in this?

Emp. Killyouall :lol: Cute, but the Kan look is more general scuffiness than the 'Chaplin' moustache. Head of intelligence ye may be. Nuclear technology is in this game. I intend on getting it before the Americans. That and missiles.

To the Council: On that note I suppose I better make this announcement.

During October 1939 I was informed that we have the ability to begin research into a V-1 "Flying Bomb" rocket. At the moment such missiles would be lucky to cross the channel, but I believe that in time we could research further "rocket" technology to travel further (across the Atlantic, maybe) and devastate the entire world!

Given the strategic advantages to such a device, what is everyone's thoughts?

research like a mad man and what wine would you prefer for our invasion?

research like a mad man and what wine would you prefer for our invasion?

I'm not a wine fan, so I'll leave it to you and enjoy it as a victory regardless :D

I suppose to make this fair on who buys the wine - will we reach Paris before the end of April, or after?

V1s seem like a good idea

Yes, all good. Now just update! Oh and I petition for an expirmental nuclear torpedo of a small yield, one that you fire in the middle of a large convoy and utterly destroy it.

before because if i said after i would have the ss on my tail and heres the wine http://www.jeroboams.co.uk/images/corpor.JPG

I'll pass, I don't drink. I am in favour of rockets!

EDIT: I do now!

IronMan Looks like you may be about to win the bet...

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

2nd - 10th April 1940

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The German onslaught

One week of fighting later, and France was in crisis.

In the early hours of April 2nd, Field Marshall von Kleist began the invasion of Belgium with his Northern Army. As his forces set foot in Antwerp, the Southern Army - under Field Marshall Heisser - began it’s advance. Both were supported by the Luftwaffe, who ripped apart any Allied air force and retreating armies.

And there was a lot of retreating armies. The German advance was swift, brutal and unforgiving. Over the next five days the provinces of Belgium - Bastogne, Brussels, Arlon - fell, mostly without resistance. On the 7th of April, faster moving motorised and armoured divisions, under the command of General Rommel, pierced into France. They did not stop.

As the encirclement of the Maginot Line began, the Northern Army moved to complete it’s own encirclement. A combined French-British force attempted to halt the envelopment, but failed. By the 10th of April the Allies had realised they were in a very difficult situation.

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April 10th

This was most visible by a sudden crisis in the British Parliament, as Prime Minister Chamberlain stepped down as several parties refused to follow him in a united government. His successor was Winston Churchill, who had been among the most vocal of anti-German policies before the war.

The Emperor noted, not without some regret, that this would mean peace with Britain through diplomatic means was very unlikely…

After further investigation, it appears the "french" we encountered in Yugoslavia were actually just Yugoslavians.

and about the Battle you put up there, i certainly hope my car wasnt in the middle of that, I know i plan to be at the front, but still a Volkswagon doesnt have as much protection as a Panzer

As there appears to be no enemy divisions in Dunkerque, I'd recommend sending one or two divisions to take it and tighten the encirlment in Belgium....

The Panzer force in Calais is already moving that way, and Brussels is being retaken - the noose is tightenening :D

How is your experiences going?

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

11th April - 8th May

Immediately following the encirclement, German forces began to press inwards. By the 15th, both Liege and Ghent had been taken, and nearly 10 Belgian and French divisions had been wiped out. Belgium was effectively out of the war, it was time to concentrate solely on France.

At this point, the German thrusts meant that they were in a precarious position. The only thing stopping the Allies from launching a counter-attack was the fact they were in complete disarray! As such, the first thing to do was straighten out the front line, and prepare for the final assault. This was achieved by the 20th of April. Paris was now a front-line city.

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The front is strengthened

In fact, on the 20th an attack was made on Paris which succeeded, but the Germans did not enter the city just yet. The attack was only meant to divert the Allies attention away from the east, where the Southern Army was outflanking the Maginot Line. As they took Dijon began to fall, it was reported by Killvouall - head of German Intelligence - that mass desertions were taking place in Alsace-Lorraine.

Supreme Commander Captain ordered the beginning of the ‘Last Offensive’ which included a thrust into Normandy, Paris and Strasbourg. All fell, and Allied resistance simply collapsed. As the advantage was pressed, the Emperor paid a visit to Paris with his Council, where they enjoyed wine on top of the Eiffel Tower.

Finally, on the 8th of May it was over. The French government - now under the charge of Henri-Philippe Petain - sued for peace. An armistice was signed, in which France would retain control of all but it’s coastal territories, as well as become neutral.

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The peace offer

With the Atlantic coast now open, Cleric was granted permission to send his U-Boats to French ports. Meanwhile, Emperor Kan now had the long and arduous task of reorganising his forces, as well as constructing defences along the coast. In addition, the threat of the Soviet Union loomed large in the east - it had won the Winter War with Finland, and had recently absorbed Lithuania and Estonia into it’s empire. Peace for Germany was a long way off…

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Europe in May 1940


(Kan's note: France fell in four weeks! My record, I believe. In addition, it looks like we could have taken it back in October/November ;)

Their flanks are collapsing and their center is about to give way. The situation is excellent.

EDIT: That was supposed to be posted before France fell....

Odd, were we not going to invade Norway? Didn't we trigger that event? Are they sending convoys of materials to Russia via around the north route? We will need to cut those off.
And what about Holland? Can they be imtimidated enough not to let British troops land?
Our goals in Yugoslavia have been reached, hopefully Hungary will grow stronger.
We will need to build up forces along our Eastern Front.
Also, What about Africa? Egypt in particular.

Oooh Egypt! Oasis, Battery and Gold Rush! :D
I am not sure if we should divert forces this way, however. Not while the Soviet Union is still in the game.

Odd, were we not going to invade Norway? Didn't we trigger that event? Are they sending convoys of materials to Russia via around the north route? We will need to cut those off.
And what about Holland? Can they be imtimidated enough not to let British troops land?
Our goals in Yugoslavia have been reached, hopefully Hungary will grow stronger.
We will need to build up forces along our Eastern Front.
Also, What about Africa? Egypt in particular.

1. We were, but I decided against it in light of the Yugoslavia crisis.
2. Nobody's sending any convoys to Russia at the moment
3. The Netherlands are neutral, and will hopefully stay that way. This means that the Allies can't deploy troops there. I have troops garrisoning the border...just in case ;)
4. I agree regarding Yugoslavia and the Eastern Front.
5. At the moment nothing is happening in Africa, though now that we have access to the Mediterranean I'll construct some transports and an Expeditionary Force if Italy decides to invade Egypt. The Suez Canal would be a valuable asset.

Excellent. Well, until our forces are organized, not much for the council, unless we need to decide on what to build.

ok sir, i'm ready to assume my duties of sitting across the channel from the British and making faces whenever we think we see them pull out binoculars

also, would it be possible to get the Dutch as close friends? just in case Britian tries to talk them into stabbing us in the back, if we do plan on a move agianst russia while britan is still alive it would be a good idea to have friends on our western front

The Panzer force in Calais is already moving that way, and Brussels is being retaken - the noose is tightenening :D

How is your experiences going?
I decided to try it out as the Americans, so I could get the hang of economy before going to war. I spent the first few years building up my military and industry (Especially in Texas. Lotsa new factorie and infastructure here.;) ), building up my army, and slowly moving the government slider from democracy to authoritarian. Then, when it was far enough to the right (1940), I invaded Mexico.So far, the wars doing pretty good, as I haven't lost a single battle (My bombers are actually destroying most of the enemy's resistence before my army even gets their....)


I've just got two problems....

1) I made some micromanaging mistakes early in the game, and I'm falling behind in techs.... It's early 1940, and I'm still rushing to reserch the 1939 techs.... Is there any way to really catch up again?

2) Okay, after I attack a place, and destroy the army there, I start celebrating, going, "Yes! Now i just need my army's to move into that province, and I'll have encirlced them! Haha!" 5 days later, they still haven't moved from the territory their attacking from..... Is that supposed to happen, or do I just have an army filled with people that love jogging in place?:crazyeye:

Hehe. As the USA, you shouldn't worry about anything. Your entire navy could be wiped out and you can laugh and still win.

1)Regarding techs, there's no real way to speed up getting techs. Just make sure you pick a good research team (based on their skill level and specialties). Never research a date if it's historical research date is more than a year away.

2) What happens is your forces 'attack' the army in the province whilst moving into it. If you click on an attacking unit you'll see on the statistics when it's due to arrive, and the arrow that shows it's direction fills up over time. How quickly they get their depends on the type of unit.

yes africka corps. i request The latest version of the panzer and every time a new model comes out i get a new tank.

It's a tough call on where to go next. Obviously we still need to assist Hungary with Yugoslavia, and an invasion of Russia (I believe I have the Council's support on this now?) won't be able to take place for another year. I believe the next course of action will be to fortify our position in France and look towards the south. Seizing Gibralter and Suez will trap the Royal Navy in the Mediterranean, and I believe Italy are looking towards Greece.

In addition, I hereby award the Iron Cross, Second Class to Lord Air Marshall PrinceScamp for a successful air campaign over the winter, and to Field Marshall Captain2, for leading Germany to a great victory in France!

IronMan: We have provided you with a Mark III Panzer for now. In addition, the Italians have invited you to North Africa to oversee some manouvers they are doing.

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ha my tank is bigger

i think we should bomb britain (only if it doesn't cause america to declare war) and invade egypt.


my second plan is a push through eastern europe towards greece put i don't know if this violates the treaty with the russians

Superb, I requistion more research into submarine technology, particulary on improving to decrease torpedo malfunctions and newer sleeker designs.

Also more submarines will be needed if we want to cut off Britains shipping. The Tonnage war begins fully at last.

I still say we begin working on Unternehmen Seelöwe, to finally smash the British into pieces and gain total control of Western Europe.

@Till: Battery is a cheese map, with a semi decent team Germany always wins. Viva La Airstrike! To be fair though, Radar is a cheese map too. Lets settle on Fuel Dump.

I request research into better Enigma cipher machines. And funding for better coroners. Ones that can tell the difference between a 60 year old drunk and a British army officer. (The Allies dropped a dead drunk with fake invasion plans in RL)

I also want better agents. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fortitude#Double_Agents

I would like to second clerics plan for Operation Sealion (I still speak english :p)

and i would also like to say, the luftwaffe alone cannot defeat the british, it must take a combined landing from the Kreigsmarine, Luftwaffe and the Wehrmact. turning on Russia with Britan still active will be a serious threat

I must say that attacking Russia at the current time would be a mistake, once the last of the west has fallen, we turn to the east.

also, until a decision has been made reguarding Britian, i'll go to Dunkerque to practice firing and manuvers with the infantry and tanks

*recieves his Iron Cross, Second Class medal with pride and celebrates by using a stuka to destroy that train car*

I agree that we need to build up a considerable army to invade Russia with, but also I would love to invade Britain. Clear away the RAF with my Luftwafe and just bomb the heck out of their factories and troops.

*notices he recived an iron cross* oh, danke, sorry mien herr but i wasnt paying attention, *puts it on his uniform*

anyway, training isnt going great, I was having the troops train in dunkerque and my command vehicle got hit by a shell from a british frigate passing by, however i have a mechanic working on whats left of it and it doesnt look good, luckily I wasnt in it at the time but my driver isnt in great shape, no other casualties so far

permission to move a bit farther into france for training?

Allo Allo just started playing again. I shall use my powerful Gestapo telescope.

It seems that we are still divided on the Russia issue. Sigh. I shall delay the decision until after the summer. For now I intend to have a wee chat with the Spanish about giving us military access (to invade Gibralter). I'm fairly confident I can swing it our way - just a few words about 'helping out during that little civil war thing' and 'we have most of our army next door anyway' :p

Cleric: I hereby order you to watch Allo Allo and pass on anything you learn to our Intelligence Ministry :lol:

@Till: Battery is a cheese map, with a semi decent team Germany always wins. Viva La Airstrike! To be fair though, Radar is a cheese map too. Lets settle on Fuel Dump.

I basically agree, but:
Semi decent teams on public servers? All it takes is a single idiot and the map is lost. ;)
But Fuel Dump? Game on! :goodjob:

I sort of agree with PrinceScamp. Stripping Britain of some military capabilities would be helpful. If i recall, we don't have any transport vessels, however. So an actual invasion has to wait.

could we have some spying in egypt i have an idea for a possible attack there and in the game do nations you invade base thier defense's on your past attacks?

This is very interesting to follow, and keeps me quite entertained until my copy of EUII arrives in a few days. Now, I can't help but give my two cents a little.

By attacking Russia it would seem you'd be opening a second front, and should Britain attack would you be able to hold them off on both fronts? In addition, if you attack Russia, is there any chance they will join Britain in an alliance and lure the USA into it? This is essentially what happened in OTL, the fuhrer thinking Britain was beat and the front was closed, so he attacked Russia and than it turned out he has a second front.

If you choose to attack Russia, might I suggest getting Japan involved, even if they are a tad overstreched at the moment.

By attacking Russia it would seem you'd be opening a second front, and should Britain attack would you be able to hold them off on both fronts? In addition, if you attack Russia, is there any chance they will join Britain in an alliance and lure the USA into it? This is essentially what happened in OTL, the fuhrer thinking Britain was beat and the front was closed, so he attacked Russia and than it turned out he has a second front.

If you choose to attack Russia, might I suggest getting Japan involved, even if they are a tad overstreched at the moment.

Some fine good points here, and the more opinions the better. I'll try and answer them. And consider yourself part of the Council.

There will be a war with Russia no matter what - it's just a question of whether or not we take the initiative now when they're underpowered, or wait until they attack us in two or three years time. Even if it's the latter, we will still have to maintain a massive amount of troops on the eastern front just to dissuade them from attacking earlier. Better to have them on the offensive than sitting watching Russia build her power.

I also believe - given the prowess of the Council and what we've seen in France and Poland - Russia could be conquered in 2-3 years. We may even have Leningrad and Moscow by the end of the first year. A wait over winter and it's onwards to the Volga and the oil-fields of the Causacus!

This will be open to debate in the Council, and I will respect their final decision*. I will argue this to the end though ;)

Regarding an invasion of Britain - this isn't modern UK, this is the British Empire and the Commonwealth. We will need an invasion of the UK, Egypt, India and their colonial holdings. There is no way, with our limited fleet, we can do this. My plan is to research and construct a surface fleet during the war with Russia - in fact I've begun researching Aircraft Carriers for our lovely Lord Admiral.

America is a wild card. Japan will probably attack them in the future and we shall see what happens. They may go it alone (as we have poor relations with Japan) or they may join with Britain and trouble us in the west. Before an invasion of Russia begins an Atlantik Wall and French Defence Network will be constructed.

Hope that sways everyone ;)


*Regarding this. If it comes to a vote I do have the power to veto the Council if I feel they are wrong. However Till, as my right-hand man, has the option to counter-veto me if he believes it's in the greater interests of Germany, and I will follow that final opinion.

PS - Tommytoon - love the avatar, brilliant animation ;)

ok then, i suppose if no invasion of britian is possible for immediate future, i'd have to change my vote to try and overwhelm russia, however since I'm western front i'll just sit back and watch for the british to make a landing

we could always try to become friends with the united states, instead of watching and fearing

Fear, Captain, FEAR? I would hope that one of my Field Marshall's, especially one fresh after destroying France, would believe anything less than we could conquer the world! ;)

Yes, the USA will be a tough one, but it's one step at a time. I'd rather destroy the industrial superpower at our doorstep than the one across the ocean. And we will be defended well by your troops Captain, there will be no Allied landings.

i doubt my Panzers will be useful in a defensive situation, i'd reccomend we send some to smash the Russians, however in the case of a landing, i'd prefer to have some to smash the British off the beach and into the sea

I finally stole a french car from one of the locals, i'll be by our channel defenses and see how things are going

What the devil happened to your jeep? We can replace them.

Yeah, the panzers will be relocated. My French coast defence is to have coastal fortifications manned by 1 Infantry and 1 Garrison divisions. In various locations we'll have groups of 2-3 Motorised Infantry to respond to any landing threat quickly and effectively.

yeah, my jeep, it was blown up by a British Frigate that saw me zipping along the coast, checking out defenses and training troops, i was out inspecting a bunker when the jeep got hit by a shell, the bunker got a chunk out of it but its still fine, not sure what the brits were thinking but its served some purpose, until recently I had mobility

as you can see, our defenses look good, barbed wire, bunkers and machine guns, also well dug in

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/Captain2/new/Defenses.jpg

Ok, I am in favour of invading Russia.

Ok, I am in favour of invading Russia.

And all it took was my little speech? I am teh CHURCHILL!

Since a war with Russia will happen, than it would be in our best interests to carry it out sooner rather than later, while they are weaker. A possibility of course would be to lure the Soviets into attacking us first, granting us the casius belli for waging a war against them. By lure, I do mean withdrawing troops from unimportant border locations, and the effect would cleanse the local populace for us should they be captured. Keep in mind these border locations would have littler, if any, German populace.

Contacting the leader of not only Japan, but as well as Turkey, Romania, and Sweden may gain us partners in a war against the USSR, as all may seek to rebuild fallen nations and empires.

Finally, is taking Gibraltor such a wise act, redirecting troops from the frontlnies to take a small stretch of land, no matter how valuable. Is there no way we can convince the Spanish to take this from the British?

tommy_toon

Glad you agree. I completely forgot about Turkey, however any offensive they take will be into the Causacus - and we want the Causacus for the oil. Maybe the Romanians and Finland, to ease your mind?

Taking Gibralter (and the Suez) is of utmost importance, and it won't overstretch us at all. And the advantages outweigh any disadvantages - taking Gibralter means any of our enemies can't use the straits there. I'm sure you can see how important that is to any Mediterranean campaign?

I doubt we can lure the Soviets into an attack - and we do want the element of surprise, after all.

Can we really occupy the entire Soviet Union?

Is the map of the whole world? I doubt we would need to capture ALL of the USSR, just the western part.

Is that what you were worried about?

Nay gentelemen, we attack Western Russia, not the whole damn thing! Who the hell wants to go to Siberia anyway? Moscow, Leningrad, Odessa, Kiev, Minsk, Baku -these are our goals. Beyond that will be mere partisans.

i think Moscow, Leningrad, Stalingrad and the Caucaus should probably have priority

I was never worried about taking the whole place! Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if once the west falls the rest slowly (or quickly) breaks up.

EDIT: After Russia, we need to take out the British Isles, then the Middle East, especialy Egypt and other British posessions.

Well, after you capture all the victory points, you have the option of annexing the place, but unless you want a base in northern Asia for some reason, it's not worth dealing with the partisans that'll appear in Siberia.....

I say that after you capture all the important stuff, make Russia a puppet state, then focus on Africa and the Middle East (More oil!:D )

Taking Gibralter leaves the way open for us to take Greece. It is definitely a good move. We need to take Moscow in the first year. We will undoubtedly lose the eastern front without it.

okay russia not egypt. but possibly we can use the offensive i developed to attack russia as it would likely work there also.

okay russia not egypt. but possibly we can use the offensive i developed to attack russia as it would likely work there also.

Which is?

Aslo, Kan, can we have some info on the Russians?

nice thread. i just bought HOI2, btw. looks good.

So, how about an update, Kan?

ok considering i cant use e-bay or anything online, where would i probably be able to get this?

http://www.gamersgate.com/

i suggest two middle sized army's of mixed types of units attack one to the south one north after advancing a couple of provinces the russians should divert attention to thoose two armies then launch a large armor group into the center. the russains should be pushed back pretty far than the units wiill spread to cover the entire border with slower advances being made while being resuplied with new units

I like Ironman's idea.

I still say we eliminate the British isles at least, to avoid war on two fronts. We dont need to go around capturing their damn colonies. Just Ireland and Great Britain.

I'm gonna have to say, I'm very moved by the amount of people taking an interest in (and indeed, buying this game because of) this AAR. Thanks folks!

I shall have an update tommorow, and then hopefully the day after. Bless the weekend! :D

Gah, I am going to be gone all afternoon and early evening both days.

Rats. Ah well, it better be fun.

EDIT: After 3pm PST most of the activity in the forum dies off. You Europeans should stay up later!

I'm fine with a limited campaign in the Soviet Union. Send them into disarray fast and then turn back to Britain.

Leave Britain alone.

i suggest two middle sized army's of mixed types of units attack one to the south one north after advancing a couple of provinces the russians should divert attention to thoose two armies then launch a large armor group into the center. the russains should be pushed back pretty far than the units wiill spread to cover the entire border with slower advances being made while being resuplied with new units
But to completely defeat Russia, you need Moscow, Leningrad, and Stalingrad, along with a bunch of other less important victory points, so you'd need to have a strong advance on all fronts to defeat them.

the plan after the small mixed and large armored advance is a circlement by the armor back to meet up with the mixed armies as the mixed armies continue to slowly advance this will have us a large distance into russia with many of thier troops stuck in an area were they can not recieve supplies or food so they will weaken then we strike at them.

Phase I: Two Medium Armies Of a mixed Constuction will advance through russia one to the south one to the north diverty russain attention and troops away from the center making them think you are reussing the same attack as you did in france.

Phase II: A Large mostly armored army advances as fast as possible through center russia. northern and southern armies continue to advance.

Phase III: as soon as the armored army reaches deep enough into russia (as defined by Kan) they will loop back to the north and south connecting with With the two mixed armies leaving some divisions at each province to ensure the russians don't break the encirclement then most of the red army will be surrounded with no supplies or food slowly weakening them untill the point were the surrounded russian land can be taken over with minimal loss.

so russia will have many of if not all of those points taken and a strong advance every where isn't nessecery with good tactics

That sounds alot like the real Operation Barbarossa.... And we know how that turned out....

Gentlemen, gentlemen, let's not bicker about Russia - that campaign is not for another year at least. What we need is suggestions on what to do in the meantime - bide our time or launch an attack in the south?

Apologies for the lack of updates as well. Ironically the more relaxed nature of the weekend means I update less than during the more busy weekdays :p

Keep a large group of planes in France to bomb England. Then send a small group of soldiers to help Italy with England. Meanwhile build up towards attacking Russia, and if you have any spare troops, grab Gibraltar, and any other neutral countries that dared commit the crime of existing.

we could also offer the world our stance on the asia problem.

edit it is simmilar to barbarossa but it's not it involves sourounding the soviets and starving them a tactic i discovered on a link to paradox kan put on a different thread. i also wasn't aware of barbarbossa because though i read much wwII material the eastern front is probaly the one i read the least.

Keep bombing England, keep buidlnig up on the Eastern Front and help Italy take out Egypt and seize the canal for ourselves.

bombing england would only result in luftwaffe losses wouldnt it?

Don't know...

Kan?

Well yes, but that's a given. The plan is to inflict more damage on the enemy while we're at it.

Kan, do you sleep? It's 12AM!

Yes, I am aware it's 8am in Scotland.

Though that explains why you aren't active during my late afternoon and evening...

I get up pretty early for work, and on weekends my sleep paterns are disrupted enough that I can sometimes be posting until 3am.

As I mentioned, doing work makes me more active, and it gives me plenty of time to think about what to write. So hopefully an update today :D

Part one of KAN' SHARUMINAR'S AMAZING UPDATE DAY!

Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors

9th May - July 23rd 1940

With France gone, the Emperor had to get down to the long task of developing a defence network to protect the western front.

The first line of defence would be the Luftwaffe, and several squadrons were deployed in northern France. They immediately saw action with British, Australian and Canadian fighters and bombers. However the experienced German pilots quickly won the day, and indeed by July were battling it out over Britain itself, in an attempt to gain aerial superiority there.

In addition, all possible provinces that could be invaded were garrisoned with two infantry divisions each. They would eventually be defending from behind the so-called “Atlantik Wall,” a massive fortification line of forts, mines, barbed wire and trenches. Construction began on the 23rd of May, and was expected to carry on through to late 1942. At this time some of the infantry divisions would be replaced by lesser units - either local militia or garrison troops.

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Work begins on the defensive fortress

In the event of a major invasion, motorised infantry divisions were deployed several miles from the coast, in locations designed to allow the fastest response time to any Allied attack. The Emperor proclaimed that when completed, it would be completely impregnable!

In the meantime, Lord Admiral Cleric finally got his chance to shine as the U-Boat armada was relocated to Brest, and then sent out into the Atlantic at the end of May.

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Leaving Brest

Sadly, they were not the great success that was hoped, or at least not while the Royal Navy, with it’s massive armadas, were patrolling the seas. The U-Boat kill ratio was impressive - with dozens of convoy craft and escorts going down. However the RN was quick to intercept and wipe out the inexperienced submarine crews. In the end, only seven flotillas returned to Brest at the start of July.

Kan was saddened, while Cleric was enraged. However he was quick to perk up when Kan claimed that - despite the losses - Germany would invest into a surface fleet. New Aircraft Carrier designs had been developed, and naval bomber squadrons had been completed that would hopefully weaken the Allied fleets in the years of ship construction.

Back in Europe, the redeployment from France continued. Fifteen infantry divisions were deployed north of Italy in order to aid them should the need arise. In fact German-Italian relations were rapidly improving, though not to the point of the Italians joining the Axis alliance.

In the war against Yugoslavia, Hungary had been driven to a standstill, and as such Germany was forced to send military divisions to assist them. A fast moving campaign was initiated throughout July 7th that cut the remainder of the country in two, and entrapped over 17 divisions in a pocket south of Split. A final attack would begin in August, officially ending any war on the European continent.

Finally, the Emperor decided he didn’t like the way Luxemburg remained a nasty little spot in the middle of his empire, and declared war on July 20th. They were annexed two days later…

Excellent progress! I'm writing this from my new summer residence in southern France. Much better weather than in ever rainy Hamburg and the food isn't to be frowned upon either!
How are our relations with the USA? Any indication on whether they will join the war?

Sounds great. The luftwafe will kill many more brits. But how'd the Aussies get their so fast?

Till: I'm afraid it doesn't look good on the American front. Not only are our relations low, but they've announced they've partially mobilised their industry as a result of the many wars around the world.

Glad to see you're enjoying France. Keep up good relations with Vichy France, poor nation must be so embarrased. Four week campaign! Poland lasted longer.

PrinceScamp: They had the whole winter to fly round and get themselves set up ;)

Yeah, but I don't remember there being any mention of Aussie pilots in Britain.

Coruse, all I watched was a Canadian History show and some other documentary probably made in the US but one that did not put much of a US POV.

its good to see our defenses ready, however the loss of kreigsmarine forces does leave the atlantic wall open

Bleh......GNNNNNAAAAARGH! LIES ALL LIES!

Bleh......GNNNNNAAAAARGH! LIES ALL LIES!

I'm sorry Cleric, I knew you'd be devestated.

The fact is, we did take out a lot of convoys - more than I expected - but the Royal Navy was always one step ahead. I can't afford to waste precious manpower - and it is becoming serious - on U-Boats if they're going to be destroyed.

So here's the deal, over the next two years we research and produce a brand new surface fleet while bombing the hell out of the Royal Navy. I'll even throw in some Bismarck class battleships and definately aircraft carriers. Then we'll wipe the Atlantic clean. Deal?

sound good, they cant set foot on our beaches if they cant be transported to them :p

sound good, they cant set foot on our beaches if they cant be transported to them :p

In a few months times they can set foot on our beaches if they want, they just can't expect to get any further :lol:

Excellent. My planes shall keep them holed up in their bomb shelters.

Couple of minor things that haven't been brought up in the update:

Manpower: It's beginning to reach the red zone. It's not critical, and we'll still be able to pump out some new divisions, but I need to slow down production on such things, especially if we want to reinforce divisions for the Russian front. I'm building the last Panzer Mark III's, they'll be upgraded to Mark IV's when it's researched. From now on the only tanks I build will be brigades, which are much smaller, but cost less.

I'm afraid the Luftwaffe may take a hit too, Prince Scamp.

For that, I am going to fully start researching rocket technology. It's been on the backburner since I first announced it, but it's gonna be top priority. Missiles don't require much manpower.

The Soviets have conquered the Romanian region of Besserabia. It belonged to the former Russian Empire, and Romania was in no place to fight back. Given how much oil and supplies the Romanians have provided us with, I hope the naysayers to a Russian campaign can see how much of a threat they are now?

In addition, 112 divisions - mostly veteran units - have arrived in Warsaw, they will provide the backbone of any Russian offensive/defensive. That is up to the Council...

Alltought i am merly the guy who fetches coffee for the council of DOOM i dare raise my voice. The Antlantic wall can most likely be garrisoned with normal garrision troops, mixed in with a few front line troops. An invasion at this point is highly unlikely. Are there any more news on the development of Motorized infantry? These would be very good to have in the vast country of Russia. Im sure if you can capture Leningrad, Moscow, Baku, Stalingrad and Sverdlovsk, Stalin will come begging for a peace that will be mighty bitter for him ;)

On the production of the navy my humble oppinion is that it is best to either have a carrier based fleet, a battleship based fleet or just a huge amount of submarines. If theres going to be an invasion of Britain transports are going to be needed, and perhaps even marines. Paratroopers could also help, but these are expensive and so are transport planes, and IIRC they need to be full on organization. If sea- and air superiority is gotten, one possibillity is Paradroppig units at a less protected port (Cardiff?) during the night we have until dawn to ship in troop, cathing the English while they are sleaping. But Sea Lion is long away yet.

In Russia the best weapon is speed and encirclements. If i understand correctly the innvasion will start summer 1942, wich i think is okay since in 1943 time may be starting to run out.


Now, who wants coffee!

Alltought i am merly the guy who fetches coffee for the council of DOOM i dare raise my voice. The Antlantic wall can most likely be garrisoned with normal garrision troops, mixed in with a few front line troops. An invasion at this point is highly unlikely. Are there any more news on the development of Motorized infantry? These would be very good to have in the vast country of Russia. Im sure if you can capture Leningrad, Moscow, Baku, Stalingrad and Sverdlovsk, Stalin will come begging for a peace that will be mighty bitter for him ;)

:lol: Nicely put.

The reason it's full blown infantry at the moment is simply because there's no Atlantik Wall in place. As it's put up to Level 10 fortifications I'll downgrade the defences.

On the production of the navy my humble oppinion is that it is best to either have a carrier based fleet, a battleship based fleet or just a huge amount of submarines. If theres going to be an invasion of Britain transports are going to be needed, and perhaps even marines. Paratroopers could also help, but these are expensive and so are transport planes, and IIRC they need to be full on organization. If sea- and air superiority is gotten, one possibillity is Paradroppig units at a less protected port (Cardiff?) during the night we have until dawn to ship in troop, cathing the English while they are sleaping. But Sea Lion is long away yet.

I'm afraid so. A carrier-based fleet with token battleships/cruisers is my aim. I think an invasion of Egypt will come before Sealion though, especially if we get the Italians in.

In Russia the best weapon is speed and encirclements. If i understand correctly the innvasion will start summer 1942, wich i think is okay since in 1943 time may be starting to run out.

Still depends on a final vote from the Council, which I'll do in a couple of updates time. However an invasion will happen in May/June 1941 if it is to go ahead. Waiting until '42 is far too risky.

Now, who wants coffee!

White with a half teaspoon of sugar. :D

June 1941! June 1941!:D

Damn tought it was 1941 now heh. I agree with innvading in the summer of 1941 , wich i belive is a good time cause the Soviets grow stronger every day. If left unchecked they might even declare war on Germany in a few years.

Alltought im a little unsure about the current date, i dont think a sufficient fleet can be constructed in time for a Sea lion in the summer of 1941.

Innvading the Soviets is the best option in my oh so humble coffee bringing oppinion.

Now, who wants coffee!

Danke but i have a surplus of french wine, since the general idea is the british wont be here until later, its best to enjoy it now

To clarify my plans, if they are agreed upon.

Remainder of 1940, early 1941 - development of the preperation for Barbarossa - the invasion of Russia. Possible campaigns in the Balkans and, if we have transports, north Africa. Britain will be bombed and her airforce destroyed.

1941 - Barbarossa. The eradication of the Red Army and the push towards Moscow and Leningrad. We invade when the mud season ends (May/June) and slow down for the winter. During the winter season we only attack if there's a clear advantage.

1942 - The conquest of Moscow and Leningrad, and the drive towards Stalingrad and the Causacus. By now our surface fleet will be coming into being.

1943 - Final destruction of the Soviet Union, and the development of an Operation: Sealion.

1944 - (June 6th, anyone :mischief: ) invasion of Britain. The Soviet Union is to be out of the game, or at least crippled by this point.

Are you sure there are enough planes to destroy the British airforce and support the innvasion of Soviet suffiently? And how about Cas? How many squadrons of those are available for support on the east? They could be vital.

And once the Soviets is invaded they should be pushed untill a bitter peace can be achived.

Edit: Not that i have any millitary agree or anyhting, but i have served coffee to lots of famous generals :p

Pretty sure we'll do fine. Got nearly a full year of air campaigning to do before turning east. And the bulk of the plane forces needed there will be the CAS. And yes, we have plenty - at the start of the game I make a decision on what planes to focus on - I chose CAS over tactical bombers, and interceptors over fighters, though we've recently aquired that tech too.

Then i have faith in you! And can safely go to bed, gotta be at work in 8 hours time....

Some off us needs 2 jobs you know, wartime germany is hard!

Then i have faith in you! And can safely go to bed, gotta be at work in 8 hours time....

Some off us needs 2 jobs you know, wartime germany is hard!

I know the feeling. As well as being Emperor of Germany I have to get up at 7am to be an apprentice joiner.

Not quite so luxurious. :p

The plan sounds good to me. Russia must be tackled soon, even if it exposes our western front to a certain degree.
Hopefully, Britain will be too busy with recovering from the bombardment to launch any serious offensive. And fingers crossed that the USA doesn't seize the opportunity of putting is between anvil and hammer.

The USA, yeah that's gonna be a tough one, however we may have some lucky breaks.

For one thing, they have a fleet, but no army. That'll be tough for our fledgling Kriegsmarine, but on the bright side - by the time they have an army ready to invade us, the Atlantik Wall will be complete, and it will be more than adequate to handle an invasion.

Another thing about the US is that their chief concern is Japan. The less we meddle in Allied affairs, the less chance that the US will feel the need to take a 'Germany-first' strategy. And they do declare themselves neutral, I cannot see any event that will bring them into the war. I mean, the only way you could attack them is to build a carrier fleet, send it to were a US fleet is based and bomb the hell out of them.

And we're not gonna do that...we don't even have a carrier fleet!

I don't think we need to worry about the US entering the war :)

might i request the emperor come visit our new land in france? quite the view, nice buildings in the city of paris, if you accept i'll go with you personally to ensure your safety

might i request the emperor come visit our new land in france? quite the view, nice buildings in the city of paris, if you accept i'll go with you personally to ensure your safety

Well I visited Paris, but I would like to oversee your forces and visit Till. I accept. A brief break is what I need after all this warmongering!

Well I visited Paris, but I would like to oversee your forces and visit Till. I accept. A brief break is what I need after all this warmongering!
Oh in that case: Could you bring some Franconian beer? I'm afraid i'm not much of a wine drinker. Looking forward to the Russia campaign, now that the USA apparently is in no hurry to hassle us. Always wanted to visit the Krim!

yeah, even though i'm on the wrong front i expect some excitement from seeing how Russia goes

however i'm begining to think the British mean business

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Till: Franconian beer, gotcha. I'll bring Volum along to provide coffee in the morning ;)

Captain I love that picture. And I'm afraid you're right. Whiel the British love the underdog, they also know how to get really stuck into business. I believe Churchill epitomises that belief. :(

Bah, ze British and zere zilly Churchill, with his zilly little pipe, and hiz bulldognezz, ugh! He cannot even prounence Nazi! He callz uz "Narzees"! Ve are not "Narzees", ve are Nazis!!!!!

I like Kan's plan. We are gonig to take Gibralter, right? I'd liek to lead that force. There is a severe shortage of Oranges here in Germany and France and they grow a lot of them in Spain.

Request permission to take over operations in the Balcons and institute a reign of terror that will crush any hopes of opposing us, sir.:) ;)