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Drtad
Aug 05, 2006, 04:58 PM
This is my first mod ever! It allows the Armenian Empire as a playable civilization. Try to play as the first nation to adopt Christianity as the state religion!

Version 2.3
Leaders: Vartan Mamikonian (animated!), Emperor Tigranes II, General Andranik (also animated), King Drtad III
UU: Armenian Legionary (Swordsman) Strength 7, can go through peaks, has 10% withdrawal chance cost increased to 45, no terrain cost on hills, defends better on hills
UB: Shoogah (Market) adds one happy and one health (Armenian food;) )
Added civilopedia text, Armenian Legionary reskin and button added, Vartan Diplomacy added, Flag decal fixed, custom music for Vartan and Drtad, all civilopedia entries added, all diplomacy added favorite civics fixed, fixed Mamikonian LH, Andranik now animated

Thanks to Wyz_sub10 for his Armenian Legionnaire, and thanks to Wyz and esnaz for the animated Vartan Mamikonian LH, Amra for his Andranik LH.



the file: Drtad's Armenia (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=1825)

Wyz_sub10
Aug 05, 2006, 05:01 PM
Always nice to see someone dive in head first. :)

Do you have any screenshots to attach?

Drtad
Aug 05, 2006, 05:04 PM
No, but I could get some pretty quickly right now. Thanks for your comments Wyz.:)

Drtad
Aug 05, 2006, 05:18 PM
Added screenshots to first post.

Drtad
Aug 05, 2006, 05:29 PM
Posted change log which is subject to change.

Amra
Aug 05, 2006, 05:45 PM
@Drtad

Looks interesting. I saw your post in my thread about maybe needing some help. PM me with any questions you may have and I will try to help as best I can. :goodjob:

Aranor
Aug 05, 2006, 05:47 PM
Looks good! I especially like the addition of the Armenian Legionary, but I would reskin it with maybe chain mail or a bronze armor and not the standard Roman armor as while the Armenians did copy the Roman style of combat they did not have acess to the superior Roman equipment. Just my 2 cents great mod though.:goodjob:

Drtad
Aug 05, 2006, 06:36 PM
Reskinning the Armenian Legionnary is one of the things somebody has to help me with.

Drtad
Aug 05, 2006, 07:59 PM
You know what, after I figured out how to do it... Maybe someone else could reskin an Armenian Legionary for me?

Drtad
Aug 05, 2006, 09:24 PM
Updated first post with currently known problems.

Wyz_sub10
Aug 05, 2006, 09:43 PM
You know what, after I figured out how to do it... Maybe someone else could reskin an Armenian Legionary for me?

Tell you what, I'll re-skin it for you. PM me with a link to a picture of what it should look like.

I can't edit models, but I can do a re-skin of the praetorian.

von Tirpitz
Aug 06, 2006, 12:41 AM
It won't run with basic Civ 4? :(

zulu9812
Aug 06, 2006, 12:50 AM
Yes, that's right. It's for Warlords.

Drtad
Aug 06, 2006, 08:27 AM
Yes this mod only works for warlords, but i may make a vanilla one too. Probably not though.

Drtad
Aug 06, 2006, 09:25 AM
I posted version 0.2 which adds civilopedia text for Armenia and Vartan and also fixes stupid Legionary spelling error.

Wyz_sub10
Aug 06, 2006, 02:46 PM
Here's the Armenian Legionnaire. I did happen to find some pics online, but I could only do so much with the helmet.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=1858

Drtad
Aug 06, 2006, 09:55 PM
Thank you very much Wyz! That is much better than what I would have envisioned!:)

Drtad
Aug 07, 2006, 12:00 PM
It may take a little time before I can figure out how to put the unit in...:sad: Right now it is appearing as red dots?

Drtad
Aug 07, 2006, 01:29 PM
Update on adding the unit, I got the red balls to move. Next step, get rid of the red and the balls. Too complicated.

Drtad
Aug 07, 2006, 02:18 PM
Okay. After a bunch of tutorial reading, I got it right. The Armenian Legionary works perfectly. After I add diplomacy text and update the city list, I will release version 0.3. I also updated first post with new Armenian Legionary graphic.

Drtad
Aug 07, 2006, 03:39 PM
0.3 finished and uploaded.

Drtad
Aug 07, 2006, 10:35 PM
Update on flag decal problem. Problem eliminated when I switched Armenia's color to white. I shall make a note of that for some of my future projects. And one question, how do you add custom music to Warlords? and vanilla for that matter.

darkedone02
Aug 08, 2006, 12:29 AM
If only Warlords have a built-in editor i can use to make my own civilization and mod. Oh well, i got to see if i can make my own civilization or mod if i can get the chance to get some great ideas.

Wyz_sub10
Aug 08, 2006, 12:42 PM
Update on flag decal problem. Problem eliminated when I switched Armenia's color to white. I shall make a note of that for some of my future projects. And one question, how do you add custom music to Warlords? and vanilla for that matter.

Drtad, re: the flag problem, are you trying to use a static image or are you using a black/white alpha channel that uses team colours?

Adding custom music - not that hard, but a bit of a pain. Not sure if there is a tutorial around here but you can download a mod like my Canada mod, and look through the sound files (both sound and XML sound) to get an initial idea of what's needed.

Drtad
Aug 08, 2006, 12:55 PM
It uses a black alpha channel, and yes I guess it was a team color problem. But it is fixed. I will check out the Canada mod to see how to add music.

Drtad
Aug 08, 2006, 09:31 PM
Version 0.4 uploaded. Fixes flag problem and adds custom music.I did not have appropriate music for a leader like Vartan, so the ones right now are just placeholders.

Drtad
Aug 09, 2006, 08:48 AM
File now updated in file database.

Drtad
Aug 09, 2006, 12:41 PM
Hmm... adding extra leaders is too easy, I may be able to upload a version with all four leaders (including King Drtad;) ) today.

Drtad
Aug 09, 2006, 03:26 PM
Update 0.9 uploaded, look at first page for details.

Greek Stud
Aug 09, 2006, 06:59 PM
Shouldn't the capital be (Ani) the city of 1,000 churches?

Drtad
Aug 09, 2006, 07:08 PM
Ani was the capital for about 100 years under the Bagratouni dynasty. Artaxata was capital of the Ardashesian dynasty. Tushpa (Van) was capital of Urartu. Yervantashat was capital of the Orontid dynasty. etc. etc.
There were a lot of capitals of Armenia at different time periods, but I picked the one that most people knew, Yerevan.

Drtad
Aug 09, 2006, 07:30 PM
And by the way, its 1,001 churches.;)

Impaler[WrG]
Aug 10, 2006, 11:11 AM
Pretorian was already the strongest UU their is so strength 9 is just crazy (I dont care how high you set the cost), it will blow through EVERY defensive unit taking almost no damage till longbowmen. Come up with something else like a class bonus or some first strikes.

Drtad
Aug 10, 2006, 02:50 PM
I had thought about changing that, but I kind of like it this way so you have a smaller, but one on one stronger army, I'll think of something.

Drtad
Aug 10, 2006, 08:50 PM
version 1.0 uploaded. Mod complete. Impaler, check first page to see how I changed the Armenian Legionary.

Amra
Aug 11, 2006, 04:02 PM
@Drtad

I've downloaded your mod and will be adding it to the Warlords version of my modpack. As you know, I have two UU's in my modpack and I was wondering if you have any suggestions for a 2nd Unique unit. Maybe something more modern?

You're the Armenia expert I would appreciate any help you can give.
Thanks :goodjob:

Drtad
Aug 11, 2006, 05:29 PM
Well Amra, Armenia does not have much of a unique modern military. It uses mostly Russian designs. Some units it uses are Mig-29 fighters, Su-25 bombers, Mi-24 helicopters, T-72 tanks, and many anti-aircraft weapons. Armenian have been known to be very able to defeat larger forces by using guerilla tactics, like in the Armenian Genocide, and the Nagorno-Karabagh War, the latter being the more successful resistance, at least casualty wise. So I guess you could replace infentry, with the Armenian Guerilla, giving it some guerilla promotions. Before you said that modern is preferred, I was thinking more along the line of an Armenian cavalry unit, replacing the horse archer. The Armenian cavalry was one of the strongest cavalries ever, from Urartian times, up until the Battle of Vartanantz (Wikipedia does not give a good description of the battle). Okay, armed with this information Amra, I am sure you can make a good decision.:)

Drtad
Aug 11, 2006, 09:32 PM
I'll be on vacation from Sunday to Wednesday.

Drtad
Aug 16, 2006, 10:02 PM
I am back from my vacation. Amra, did you see my suggestions?

Dionysius
Aug 19, 2006, 07:35 PM
UU: Armenian Legionary (Swordsman) Strength 8, can go through peaks, has 10% withdrawal chance cost increased to 70
heres a suggestion:
strength 7, can go through peaks, 10% withdrawal and 25% defense on hills.
it would make for a useful unit, but not overpowered.

Impaler[WrG]
Aug 19, 2006, 09:32 PM
I agree strength 7 is the highest it should go, it cant be stronger then a Pretorian. The goes through Peaks is interesting an Unique but it would very rarly be of any use. I think its best to keep the unit focused so keep either the withdraw ability but bump to 30% (remember Melle cant get any Flanking promotions so that the Max it will ever have) or give Gurrila I.

Drtad
Aug 19, 2006, 10:20 PM
The reason I wanted the legionary to be so strong, is because in history, Armenian troops were much stronger man to man, but they just did not have enough troops to halt enemy invasions (Battle of Vartanantz?). I made it so that the Legionary could go through peaks, because Armenia is very mountainous. I will release a new version soon, adding a new leader [King Levon (Leo in english)] and I will decrease the Armenian Legionary's strength to 7, and decrease the cost a bit. I am working on my first big project, which I will call it, Drtad's pack of Mods/Scenarios. I will make two of the mods for the scenarios myself (Vartanantz and Armenia 850AD Warring States) and the other scenarios (Pontic Wars, and the Fall of Assyria) will be for TAM. I will expand this project as I see fit, but Vartanantz is a big project.

Drtad
Aug 22, 2006, 10:37 AM
I have two questions:

How do you edit the main menu screen? (music as well as background)
How do you edit religions?

Tigranes II
Aug 24, 2006, 04:31 PM
Abris!

Yeah, I was toying with creating an Armenian Civ, but I just didn't give it enough effort to follow through.

But this, this looks nice! I wish I had Warlords, but I don't, and I probably shouldn't get it until I get into a good work rhythm at school. After all, Civ has a history of thwarting my best-laid plans for schoolwork!

Ditto on what everyone else has been saying about the unique unit. We don't want it to be too strong...

A cavalry unit might be good, too. But, I'll let you work on that.

You look like you know a lot about Armenian history. More than I do, at least!

Good job, ungerus! Can't wait to check it out!

BTW, that's Drtad III, right?

Drtad
Aug 24, 2006, 05:33 PM
Updated to version 1.1! Adds King Levon! I forgot to change the Armenian Legionarie's strength to 7... Too lazy to fix that right now, busy working on Vartanantz scenario/mod. Nice to see another Armenian here, especially one that knows Armenian. I wonder if Armenian font works so I can translate all of Civ to Armenian. Forget it, too hard. And yes, I am Drtad III.;)

Italicus
Aug 24, 2006, 07:12 PM
Where civilization button?

Mods\Drtad's Armenia\Assets\Art\Interface\Buttons\Civilizations is empty :confused:

Drtad
Aug 24, 2006, 07:52 PM
Umm... What does that button do? I must have missed it while reading the tutorial.

Italicus
Aug 24, 2006, 08:16 PM
Serves it for the civilopedia...

Drtad
Aug 25, 2006, 09:59 PM
I tried to fix that but the button won't show up. If you can do it, just use the flag button.

Drtad
Aug 28, 2006, 08:54 PM
I will be uploading a new version tommorow fixing the Armenian Legionary, adding King Gagik as a new leader, and adding King Ashot II using kodzi's animated Casimir LH. I thought it kinda looked like Ashot. I will also include a slightly altered Rhye's world map with Armenia in it. (no Celts.)

Italicus
Aug 28, 2006, 09:49 PM
Too many leaders in my humble opinion.

Drtad
Aug 29, 2006, 06:31 PM
I like having a lot of leaders to choose from.:) But I promise that this will be my last update for Warlords. I should have it up tonight.

Drtad
Oct 13, 2006, 09:53 PM
I will be posting a major update tommorow probably fixing up the buttons, buildings, blablabla...

Drtad
Oct 14, 2006, 03:30 PM
New version up at the file Database.

Drtad
Oct 15, 2006, 01:58 PM
I am sorry, the last version had a bad bug, but I fixed it, you'll have to download again, sorry for the inconveniance.

Drtad
Oct 18, 2006, 07:46 PM
The Armenian empire under my great uncle General Andranik Toros Ozanian will be in Civ Gold version 4.0 thanks to Wyz_sub10!

Drtad
Oct 31, 2006, 07:36 PM
Armenia is compatible with the new Warlords patch! I do not have to make a new version.:)

Wyz_sub10
Nov 17, 2006, 10:47 AM
We have animated LHs for Armenia, courtesy of esnaz.

I don't have the screens here, but I think you'll be happy with it. We'll use them for Gold 4.0 and I can send them to you for inclusion here, if you like.

Drtad
Nov 17, 2006, 08:08 PM
Posted By Wyz_sub10
We have animated LHs for Armenia, courtesy of esnaz.
I don't have the screens here, but I think you'll be happy with it. We'll use them for Gold 4.0 and I can send them to you for inclusion here, if you like. Wow thanks! LH's? DOes that mean more than one leader? if so which ones? and I will be glad if you PM the leaderheads to me and I can use them.:goodjob:

Wyz_sub10
Nov 17, 2006, 11:59 PM
Oops...sorry - just one: Mamikonian.

Drtad
Nov 18, 2006, 08:28 AM
Okay! He looks alright. Some small critiques though.;) Only to make it more historically accurate. His armor, very well done by esnaz, should be silver. The cape should be red. And his helmet, at the top, should have that red stuff.:) Other than that, nice work! (esnaz):goodjob:

Wyz_sub10
Nov 18, 2006, 01:27 PM
Okay! He looks alright. Some small critiques though.;) Only to make it more historically accurate. His armor, very well done by esnaz, should be silver. The cape should be red. And his helmet, at the top, should have that red stuff.:) Other than that, nice work! (esnaz):goodjob:

esnaz is hard at work on some other stuff, but I can probably make the changes. I'm not exactly sure what you're suggesting with the helmet. The other two changes should be easy enough.

Drtad
Nov 18, 2006, 03:35 PM
With the helmet, hear is a picture, I mean the fluffy black stuff on top of the helmet, kinda Roman style. By the way, the background for Vartan should be the same one I posted for Andranik, Mount Ararat.

Drtad
Nov 19, 2006, 09:54 PM
I will soon release an update of the mod allowing the new XML changes from Warlords 2.08, the Qin/Kublai swap, as well as an animated Saint Vartan Mamikonian leaderhead!:king:

Drtad
Nov 22, 2006, 04:08 PM
Mod updated with all changes from 2.08 patch and animated Vartan!

Drtad
Nov 27, 2006, 05:18 PM
Mod updated to 2.2 fixing the Mamikonian LH and editing some text files and adding a partial Italian translation by me.

Drtad
Jan 20, 2007, 08:58 PM
I will release an update soon adding new graphics for the Shoogah building and possibly other things.:mischief:

Drtad
Feb 09, 2007, 06:12 PM
New version uploaded! Version 2.3 adds an animated Andranik Pasha leaderhead! (courtesy of Amra)

Head Serf
Feb 10, 2007, 05:12 AM
Could you include screenshots of the new LHs?

Drtad
Feb 10, 2007, 08:48 AM
Here ya go, look at the first page.

Andersi
Mar 15, 2007, 09:12 AM
This is my first mod ever! It allows the Armenian Empire as a playable civilization. Try to play as the first nation to adopt Christianity as the state religion!

Version 2.3
Leaders: Vartan Mamikonian (animated!), Emperor Tigranes II, General Andranik (also animated), King Drtad III
UU: Armenian Legionary (Swordsman) Strength 7, can go through peaks, has 10% withdrawal chance cost increased to 45, no terrain cost on hills, defends better on hills
UB: Shoogah (Market) adds one happy and one health (Armenian food;) )
Added civilopedia text, Armenian Legionary reskin and button added, Vartan Diplomacy added, Flag decal fixed, custom music for Vartan and Drtad, all civilopedia entries added, all diplomacy added favorite civics fixed, fixed Mamikonian LH, Andranik now animated

Thanks to Wyz_sub10 for his Armenian Legionnaire, and thanks to Wyz and esnaz for the animated Vartan Mamikonian LH, Amra for his Andranik LH.



the file: Drtad's Armenia (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=1825)
It looks great, just remember next time to make it more realistic, you know the armenian soldiers must have Armenian look (very darkskinn and stuff), other than that it looks amazing.

Regards!

Drtad
Mar 15, 2007, 05:47 PM
Actually, antique Armenians were mostly blond haired and blue eyed, like I am.;) Some Armenians have very dark skinned today, but in Roman times and previously, they were much lighter. For example, the Assyrians call the early Armenians, the Nairi, which implies that Armenians were very light people.

vahe
Aug 28, 2007, 06:45 AM
Great work!! But... does it work with the latest "Beyond the sword" ? If not, how to make it work?

Aranor
Aug 28, 2007, 07:40 AM
as the first post says it is for Warlords not Beyond the Sword. I know that as of a couple of weeks ago Drtad was still yet to get BtS and was unsure if he was going to.

vahe
Aug 28, 2007, 09:03 AM
that could be excellent!

just wonder why didn't they make the mods to be compatible with all versions of Civ 4. it sounds quite unconvenient: to rewrite the mod for each new version.

kebabji
Sep 17, 2007, 08:46 PM
great mod, tried to play it on a mac and it gave me a bunch of XML errors. I replaced some incompatible characters in GameTextInfos_armenia.xml, on the pedia lines Drtad and Levon and it works like a charm - thanks for the time you spent making this!

Drtad
Apr 16, 2008, 10:35 PM
as the first post says it is for Warlords not Beyond the Sword. I know that as of a couple of weeks ago Drtad was still yet to get BtS and was unsure if he was going to.
Yeah, I have still yet to get BTS.

I plan to get it soon, though. I haven't been able to keep any promises lately so please take that with a grain of salt.:lol:

Once I do, I will remake my Armenian civ for sure.

Aranor
Apr 16, 2008, 10:37 PM
Yeah, I have still yet to get BTS.

I plan to get it soon, though. I haven't been able to keep any promises lately so please take that with a grain of salt.:lol:

Once I do, I will remake my Armenian civ for sure.

I updated this civ for my mod a month or so ago, staying true to your original work ofcourse ;)

Drtad
Apr 17, 2008, 07:36 PM
I updated this civ for my mod a month or so ago, staying true to your original work ofcourse ;)
That's fantastic! Now I don't have to worry about it.:lol:

lepperxxmessiah
May 05, 2008, 05:44 PM
what folder do i put it into? not computer savvy

Drtad
May 06, 2008, 10:19 PM
what folder do i put it into? not computer savvy
The mods folder in your Civ IV Warlords folder. If you need more specific directions just ask.:)

Argishti
Oct 28, 2008, 06:32 PM
Actually, antique Armenians were mostly blond haired and blue eyed, like I am.;) Some Armenians have very dark skinned today, but in Roman times and previously, they were much lighter. For example, the Assyrians call the early Armenians, the Nairi, which implies that Armenians were very light people.

Actually, there is no proof of what you said. first. Nairi in Assyrian means *the land of rivers* and that is what they called Armenia.

I spent alot of time researching and reading about Old Armenian culture from Hayasa-Azzi to Urartu to Tigranes the Great to Levon Lusignan. Never heard anything about Armenians having blonde hair and blue eyes. Sure you will find some Armenians with blonde hair and blue eyes(maybe 5%). That doesnt mean all Armenians were like that. Can you link me to a valid info about that? Maybe i am missing something.

Thanx
dont mean to steal the topic

Huayna Capac357
Oct 29, 2008, 04:15 PM
Perhaps you could add some aspects of DWOLF's Armenia (the leader perhaps)