I created a mod that has an excellent world map, accurate civ placement and modified rules (to allow for a better game in my opinion :mwaha: ).

I was wondering if anybody would be interested in playing! :)

All you need do is give your:
1. DOGTAG - e.g kittenOFchaos
2. E-MAIL ADDRESS - BAkittenOFchaos@aol.com
3. DIFFICULTY LEVEL PREFERENCE - Monarchy
4. CIVILISATION PREFERENCE - 1st: Rome 2nd: Russia
5. Whether you want to play with the American civ present OR with the Americans disabled and the Iroquois, Aztecs and Zulus "crippled". - I'll go with the majority ruling.

I STRONGLY recommend you have a computer that can handle a huge map and 15-16 civs before applying for this succession game.

:king:



I hope I get some interest in this game...to see my "mod thread" click on the link in my signature!

P.S you don't need to download my mod even...once we decide on difficulty, civ etc all I need do is post the start save...simplicity itself!

sounds interesting, is France allowed? i dunno i really like France :) ... also create something to avoid GLOBAL WARMING, it sucks when u have played hundreds and hundreds of years and most of the terrain is like a desert coz of the stupid global warming.

You can reduce pollution in the mod for any improvement to 0. So, I assume you're using Marla's map? My computer can handle it (3-5 second delay at the most). I played it once for a few hundred turns, and by the time I reached Europe (I was playing the Japanese), the whole map looked a little *TOO* realistic! :eek: (countries where in their respective places, as well as city populations - i.e., China covered most of modern day China, Europe was choked with civs - and their borders nearly matched!, Russia was still 90% in Europe, and I don't even want to *think* about the Zulus!).

BTW, I think I'll pass on the Monarchy game. I'm already in one, and I don't want to bite off more than I can chew. (I'm more of a Cheiftain-Regent player).

no, im playing KITTEN world map version, i would just like to know how to put each civ in the correct place, they say something about CPT but i still dont know how to use it, can u give me a quick and easy explanation here plz? also can u post here the ZIP FILE of the CPT ? thanx

Originally posted by JoseM
no, im playing KITTEN world map version, i would just like to know how to put each civ in the correct place, they say something about CPT but i still dont know how to use it, can u give me a quick and easy explanation here plz? also can u post here the ZIP FILE of the CPT ? thanx

Here's the CPT. There's a sample script (more like a config file) that allows to set the civs' cities and Fog of War. The only thing you should really know about are the X,Y coords. Open the .bic in Civ Edit, and move your mouse over any tile. You'll see an X,Y coordinate at the bottom of the screen. Find where you want what civ to go where. (i.e., Rome at 50,15 - I just made that number up), and type it into the CPT file.

Now, I think you use the same process as Marla's map. Save it (i.e. fixed.sav) and run the program.

Bump :rolleyes:

Are you planning on passing the save file through e-mail?

DIFFICULTY LEVEL PREFERENCE - Monarchy
CIVILISATION PREFERENCE - 1st: Russia 2nd: Germany
It doesn't matter to me if they are crippled or not, I haven't tried one with them crippled so will go for that.

How many turns?
How long to play?
How many people?

How many turns...with civ2 succession typcially 20 seemed to work well.

How long to play...? till we conquer or die!

How many people...that depends on how many are interested (within reason), though 5 people would be a decent enough sized group!


We "post" the savegame in this thread (or a new one just for the write-up of the turns) as an attachment.

Using winzip or another common encoder to reduce size.

I wouldn't mind giving it a shot at Monarch level with Rome.

However, if this is one of them *HUGE* maps we should definitely lower the turn length to 10 later on. I'd go for all civs, no crippling.

Which Patch?

How long to play...? till we conquer or die!

Sorry lthe question was not posed clearly....how long between the time we are "up" until we post that we have downloaded and started playing, and then how long do we have to play and post results. Normal appears to be in the area of 24 hours to say you have it and 48-72 hours to post results.

However, if this is one of them *HUGE* maps we should definitely lower the turn length to 10 later on. I'd go for all civs, no crippling.
If past experience with Marla's map is any indication 10 may even be streaching it by the time we get to the end. Once the world is pretty much settled, it can take up to a hour or more per turn if you truely manage the cities properly.

Another question.....worker automation? I played a couple of turns on an open SG with Marla's map (china) and spent most of the first hour I played catching all of the workers that had been automated. The most I would suggest allowing would be "improve nearest city without changing any previous improvements" and "build railroad to here". The new stack movement commands help a lot with this, unfortunately there is no stack improvement commands (would be nice!).

I'd like to try it out. I've never done an SG before but i think i can handle it. As for my info:

1. Waco Kid
2. Jtacker7@yahoo.com
3. Monarchy or harder (will not play easier than monarchy)
4. No preference (unless you have horses in america, then i would like to be the U.S.)
5. Not sure what changes you made, so i guess i'll trust your judgement, so in the case of making teams weaker, i'll trust everyone elses judgement there too. Although personally, i feel the harder the game, the better.

or has it been dropped for lack of interest?

I'm merely waiting until we get sufficient numbers to make it a worthwhile experienced. Though I am surprised at the lack of takers...

Bump again :cry:

Originally posted by kittenOFchaos
I'm merely waiting until we get sufficient numbers to make it a worthwhile experienced. Though I am surprised at the lack of takers...
The map is too big for most people.

Well maybe people don't know you.

Watching ;) all these games, I don't see you playing in any of them.

At this point, I don't know if any of the signed up people are to interested.

i want to play :) :)

but i have to say i have absolutely no wishes regarding which civilization or what difficulty...i just want to play :D

Okay...we are starting tonight :) Maybe more will show an interest once we get up and running.

I will send out e-mail etc soon.

P.S TheWatcher...people not know the kittenOFchaos???
Then they don't really know Civfanatics forums.

I've done several civ2 succession games b4 and an Alpha Centauri one, so I don't lack experience...plus I've seen some of the best civ2 ones where some of the story telling was really top-notch.

:)

Civilisation: Romans

Difficulty: Monarchy

How many turns per player: 20 to begin with, reduce as the amount going on increases in later periods.

Crippled Civs?: off.


Start player: kittenOFchaos

Next player: whoever asks first! E-mail me at BAkittenOFchaos@aol.com

Rules:

1. Players should present a "reign summary" the nature of which I leave to the disgression of the individual players.

2. Destructive players who merely want to ruin the game will have their reign ignored and will be asked to leave. Please note this does not include people who are merely poor at the game or even new, the whole point to some degree of succession is to recreate the "good" "bad" and "ugly" rulers that history throws up. This is simply targetted at people who may wish to ruin the game.

3. Players should try to not take too long over their "reign"...I think 3 days is fine, longer if you ask for it and it is within reason e.g something came up or it is taking long or you are making a real effort with your "reign summary". The main thing is we know what is happening to prevent the game stalling.

4. Basically use disgression along the lines of "do to others as you would have done to yourself" and there should be no problems...



Numitor, King of Alba, had been ousted by his brutal brother Amulius. Amulius ensured Numitor would produce no heirs sending his only child -a daughter called Rhea- to be a vestal virgin in the temple of Venus (goddess of the hearth).

Rhea Silvia produced twin boys Romulus and Remus and Mars God of War was their father! Amulius fearful slew Rhea and threw her sons into the Tiber River.

The river bore the twins to safety ashore, where they were found by a she-wolf who raised them as her own till Faustulus a shepherd found them and adopted them as his own.

When the twins reahed manhood, Faustulus told them the fate of their mother...in anger Romulus and Remus killed Amulius and restored Numitor to the throne.

When the boys were grown, Faustulus told them who their father was and described their mother's fate. Romulus and Remus avenged he by killing Amulius.

Romulus and Remus set out to become Kings themselves and looked to found a city...Remus meeting his end by mocking Romulus's plans!

Rome was founded on Palatine Hill and was declared it to be a sanctuary. It filled with outlaws, refugees and fugitives who got protection if only to be ruled over by Romulus. By guile other tribes were plunder of their woman and so Romulus gained the power to control the lands around.

Romulus soon died as Mars his father had Jupiter make him a God to join him in the Heavens.

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Thanks to:
http://www.wsd1.org/LitOnline/ancient.htm#I. The legend

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4000 B.C (1)

Kitulus a man of enormous girth and strength and his 10 equally powerful sons took power in Rome. To protect their reigme (one man has the vote) they start conscripting soldiers and hope to create an army of warriors that can extend Roman power beyond our borders.

Enemies of Kitulus are killed or forced to work constructing roads...the first project is to build roads to the south to bring wines and wheat more easily to Rome and to react to uprisings more quickly.


3950 B.C (2)

A deputation of "wise men" present themselves at "The Palace" begging sanctuary and showing what they are capable of. These men had fashioned many items that intrigued Kitulus...who saw how many of them may give his soldiers an edge over adversaries.

Using a fifth of his annual taxes he supports these men's research to uncover the secrets of the Universe, especially those enabling better weapons to be made. The "wise men" seek to fashion metal for war-like purposes to prove their worth.


3850 B.C (3)

The teams of workers complete a road that brings fine wines to Rome, a now intoxicated population revel!

More enemies of Kitulus are sent to extend the roads further south -in chains, the enemies, not the roads.


3750 B.C (5)

A large body of men are now available, not needed for the defense of Rome and without alternate labour prospects are armed and sent North to find treasure and new lands.

Traders in the Adriatic Sea report a large body of warriors on the far shore...towards this location Rome directs her warriors.

3700 BC (6)

Whilst roads link Rome with an easy source of wheat our Warriors cross the Po River...so named because <erm> because ;)

3500 BC (10)

Having irrigated the vinelands south of the Tiber the slaves are sent north to construct roads into lands nominally Roman due to the passage of our mighty horde of warriors.

3450 BC (11)

The Commander of the Roman army in the East faces an equally strong host...we send forward scouts. They report of a powerful people known as the Greeks.

Emmisaries are sent from Rome to Athens and arrange a peace treaty...our emmisaries note the Greeks have "bronze working" and have fashioned for themselves long spears with a metal tip and units bearing these arms known as Hoplites.

Can't anyone make a nice Chieftan Succession game for the new guys? besides me?

3350 BC (13)

A third body of Warriors is constructed in Rome which will not be sent to explore...but to defend Rome from enemies as powerful as the Greeks, in addition to providing security for the House of Kitulus as the population of Rome is now over 40,000 people.

Exploration by warriors East of Rome found hilly, densely forested lands in which Greek forces were present...in the West the lands were much more fertile, Rome prepared to build new cities far from Rome. However such an enterprise would take generations to prepare.

3200 BC (16)

In the North our second warrior horde is met by emissaries of a woman Chief known as Joan D'arc...they demand we leave what they consider to be their lands of face being removed from the land.

We prudently agree!

They claim to have knowledge of Masonary, Bronze Working and the Wheel...and are unimpressed at our technologies :(

3150 BC (17)

Ignoring Joan's emissaries our warriors continue North seeking out the City known as Paris. They pass through fertile grasslands, which have many cattle and even large holes in the ground from which rock is extracted.

Paris was found to be a grand city with 60,000 people...but the French don't repeat their earlier protestations, nor do troops approach to drive us off.


In the East our emissaries broker a deal...we will teach the Greeks "Warrior Code" if they reciprocate with the secrets of "Bronze Working"...despite our own research we have still not mastered this technology. Better to gain the secrets now!

As for "Warrior Code" we need to teach the Greek Warriors this as even now they are within Roman borders and are approaching Rome! :eek:


In Anatolia our Warriors meet Egyptian Warriors and we setup correspondance:

We gain peace, Masonary for Alphabet and the friendship of a beautiful women:

3100 B.C (18)

:mad: WAR :mad:

From the hills around Rome Greek Warriors pour down the slopes...they are the Elite warriors of the Greek empire!

Without warning they descend upon Roman farmers in their fields and slaughter them...the people flee for the sanctuary of Rome.

There the Roman Warriors await...most have never seen real combat outside policing Saturday night revels! The lead elements of the Greek attack are butchered surprised by the vigourous actions of the defenders. But although the Greeks regain much of their composure Mars and Romulus are with Rome and then Greek warriors are beaten back crushed on the banks on the Tiber :mwaha:

Our people rejoice and work to extend the Palace! :king:

However the Greeks are too proud to admitt there is no point continuing the war and that we can forgive their treacherous sneak attack...many more mothers will lose a son :(

In France our warriors find the city devoid of troops...taking bold action our Commander orders the troops to seize the town. The Palace is raised to the ground, 30 gold plundered and resisters are rounded up and hanged. However Joan D'Arc was not found...if she ever really existed :confused: , maybe this in addition to why Paris was left unguarded will remain a mystery forever.


To make the French forget their heritage we rename Paris, Lutetia...it is a capital offense to say the word Paris!

3050 B.C (19)

Lutetia is secured...and riots end due to martial law and the introduction of "entertainers" to make our rule seem more acceptable to the general population. Still however many ask "what have the Romans ever done for us?"

Whilst in the East our Warriors having stopped shadowing the Egptian Warriors seek to place Athens under seige.

3000 B.C (20)

The Seige of Athens begins!


The House of Kitulus comes to an end...a lethal fever after a banquet affecting all eating at the "High Table" decimated the male members of the family.

Will the oldest daughter sieze the throne, or will her husband take command...or will some other claim the throne?




End Reign of KittenOFchaos 1:

We are at war with France and Greece and know also the Egyptians.

We are a prosperous nation having almost completed a settler and having captured Pa/Lutetia! Our technology is probably about average from what I can surmise.

We need to start colonising the expanse of land we have discovered and to prepare sufficient defences to prevent the Greeks or indeed the French taking cities from us.

Needless to say I'm very pleased with our start and think we may be in with a chance of winning this game.

THE NEXT PLAYER:
I will e-mail all that have shown an interest in the game...
I will e-mail whoever wants to be next the savegame file!
If you are interested in joining the game or being next e-mail me at BAkittenOFchaos@aol.com

P.S I will be putting more screenies up once I get some hosted webspace of my own to link too...and I'll tidy the "story". I may also host the savegame files later for people to have a look at.

Ihmotep

The consensus here from people interested in playing a "civ3 on earth" succession game was to be at Monarch difficulty.

It is mob rule :lol:

compressed with winzip...savegame of Romans at 3000 B.C

The next player plays 20 turns and posts his/her saved game and a turn summary. Please read my "reign summary" to help get an idea of the character of our empire :)

Any problems with the savegame file just contact me by private mail...

nice :) i would like to play next...

kitten, how large is the map??

Just so that you know you can count me out on anything larger than Standard.

All earth maps are HUGH.

ok, i got the game per mail from kittenofchaos, i will play within the next 36 hours :)

Order of play at the moment:

Reign 1: kittenOFchaos DONE :)

Reign 2: Lemming IN PROGRESS :)

Reign 3: Waco Kid TO COME :)


Who wants to be next?

Originally posted by kittenOFchaos
3700 BC (6)

Whilst roads link Rome with an easy source of wheat our Warriors cross the Po River...

hm, just a short thought when i read that sentence: wheat isnt a resource you need to build a road to in order to gain it, right? it just has to be in the city radius, like gold, game and so on?

screenshots:

2590BC (http://www.zmatlo.at/civ3/rome_world/2590BC.jpg), just founded Veii...i think the spot is quite ok with the cow, river, wine and wheat...

2150BC (http://www.zmatlo.at/civ3/rome_world/2150BC.jpg), end of my turn...

here (http://www.zmatlo.at/civ3/rome_world/2150%20BC.zip) is the savegame.

summary:

3000 BC: I start negotiations with cleopatra, we acquire ceremonial burial in exchange for warrior code and 62 gold…our treasure is quite full, so I think we can afford it :)

I switched our research to iron working…

2950 BC: I took the risk and popped the goody hut right outside of rome, it is deserted :p

2900 BC: I fortify our warrior at the hills of athens

2850 BC: I negotiate a peace treaty with the French in exchange for one French worker and 20 gold…

2710 BC: Lutetia completes a spearman, he will defend the city…

2670 BC: Rome builds a settler, he is heading northwest to found Veii...

2590 BC: I negotiate a peace treaty with the greeks in exchange for a greek worker and 10 gold.

Veii is founded.

2550 BC: We meet the germans, we acquire the wheel in exchange for ceremonial burial and 71 gold. We have horses right outside lutetia! Good job, kittenofchaos!

2510 BC: We disturb some angry warriors, ouch…

2470 BC: we spot a greek settler who is guarded by an archer...we attack the archer and settler in order to prevent greek expansion, but unfortunately our brave warrior loses the battle. :(

2430 BC: some barbarians weaken the defense of Leipzig, the newly found german city…we risk an attack, but again we loose, DARN!!! :mad:

2390 BC: Lutetia builds another spearman, he will defend rome…

2350 BC: We now have horses!

2190 BC: Lutetia completes an archer

2150 BC: End of turn…we acquire pottery for 54 gold from the french...

so that was my turn. quite unsatisfying with losing 2 important battles. now greek will soon have a second city, and also the germans are expanding...while i lost 2 warriors :(

well, however rome completes a settler the next turn, i think we should expand towards greece and germany...so i marked my suggested city-spot on the 2150BC-shot, any comments?

Originally posted by Lemming


hm, just a short thought when i read that sentence: wheat isnt a resource you need to build a road to in order to gain it, right? it just has to be in the city radius, like gold, game and so on?

I think he was just trying to make the story more interesting... I'll be taking over from here. I'll try to continue our expansion. It's 9:00a.m. here, and i won't be able to start till around 7:00p.m., but i will start then and try to finish it within a few hours. Wish me luck.

-Waco

Quick question:
How do you save the screen shots? Do i need a program to do it or is there an easier way?
-waco

just hit the printscreen-button when youre in the game, then paste the picture in a graphic application of your like (e.g. photoshop)...


Originally posted by Waco Kid
Quick question:
How do you save the screen shots? Do i need a program to do it or is there an easier way?
-waco

I use "CapturePro" to get screenshots...then I convert the bmp file to a jpeg using "Lurawave".

Both programmes are available from www.downloads.com

Reign 4 will be Meldor...

P.S Waco Kid:

1. Check your e-mail
2. At the end of your reign e-mail saved game to johnb@brazoria.net

Thanks.


A few comments about the game: Lemming

My comment of roads and wheat...atmosphere my dear chap! Plus it is good to road wheat to gain extra trade and speed movement (road movement is 4 in my mod!).

Good job on getting peace with the Greeks and French...shame about the Germans (remember Varius).

That city site you indicated gets my approval!

Before i started, I adjusted the tax rate to maximise income with out decreasing turns till complete.

2110 B.C. - As preperations come to completion, Emporer Waco orders the 10,000 or so citizens wou wish to relocate to take the north road out of town and not to turn back. Rome shifts production to spearmen. Taught the weel to the Egyptians for 107 gold.

2070 B.C. - The wrethced Germans from the north attack our warriors NE of Rome!! The Germans are defeated in a bloody battle by our glorious army, and for their bravory, Emperor Waco promotes them to veteran class.

2030 B.C. - Veii has completed it's spearmen and begins to build settlers for further expansion. The workers near Veii continue to work on infrastructer there so as to promote further growth. Antium is founded north of Rome in a location picked by the Emperor himself, much to the disgust of his advisors (hey, it has production potential down the road. So sue me!). To celebrate it's addition to the Empire, the people of Antium train spearmen, as strange as that may sound.

1990 B.C. - The Emperor has the "spearmen in training" in Rome drop their spears and pick up shovels, for they will instead become workers of the land. With the few years of training as spearmen under their belt, this just become the most powerful group of workers this side of Sparta!! :D (in other words, nothing exciting happened this turn).

1950 B.C. - Feeling a road to Antium a necessity, Waco orders the workers @ Veii to begin a trek to Antium to...well...build a road.

1910 B.C. - Waco is interrupted during his afternoon feast by his cultural advisor to be told that the French have begun building the colossus. The advisor is beheaded shortly thereafter. No one interrupts the emperor during a meal. On an expitition north our archer discovers the villiage of Hamburg.

1870 B.C. - A Greek archer approaching Antium is attacked by our warriors. We are beaten and Waco orders that no one ever speak of it again, or face sudden death.

1830 B.C. - Our veteran warriors avenge the life of their fallen comrade's while wiping another smug Greek army off the map

1790 B.C. - Having left Antium unoccupied to finish the campaign against the Greek archer, the Bismark felt it necessary to move their own archer next to the city. Feeling Antium is too important to loose, Waco offers a peace treaty and gives up 120 gold. Hopefully this will deter the Germans from further advancement on our cities.

1750 B.C. - The Germans head east, leaving Antium alone. As if on cue, Antium's spearmen are completed, and Rome complete's its worker. Rome begins training a chariot, whose mobility makes them a good scout.

1725 B.C. - Ahh...Lutetia has finished it's temple of worship. They have been ordered to build a settler for...well...you know why. Waco contacts his old flame in Joan De Ark and asks her what it would cost for her to teach him writing. She said 180 gold and contact with the greeks (in the old days, all the kid had to do to get a favor from Joan was...um...nevermind). After a few bottles of fine roman wine, the kid asked for Iron Working. She gave in for contact with Egypt and 90 gold (she's so easy). With the horses we have, the kid felt it necessary to work on horse back riding, well, just because.

1700 B.C. - Zzzzzz....moved some troops...Zzzzzzzz.

1675 B.C. - <See above>

1650 B.C. - Veii has completed settler, they will now build a worker.

1625 B.C. - Cultural expansion in Lutetia. Settler and spearment head east from Veii to colonize new territory. Peace treaty with Greece. We also receive contact with babalon (man they are a backward people). Babalon offers contact with Persians for pottery, Waco counters with 13 gold - they accept.

1600 B.C. - <See 1700 B.C.>

1575 B.C. - Archer built in Antium. They will now comence with a temple.

1550 B.C. - Our warriors searching SW of Veii come accross a Barbaric villiage and are given orders to stand down. Waco feels they are no threat as of now and will be dealt with in time. First it is necessary to explore.

1525 B.C. - Cumae is built east of Rome. Spearmen are being built there for no particular reason. Ahh... a road to our only Iron source has been compleated triggering Rome to begin production on an elite group of warriors developed by Waco himself - Legionary. "It's gonna get ugly," the kid is heard saying.

1500 B.C. - The Greeks are buiklding Collosus and the French have begun the pyramids. Woo Hoo!! A goody hut!

MAY 11, 1500 B.C. - It was a cool spring nite, the sun had just set, and Emperor Waco decided to retire early that nite after a long day of fishing on the Po river. A brisk breeze flowed in through the widow, pushing the curtains into the air, whilst the moon purged its light between the trees, laying a blanket of shadow creatures over the room where a ruler of men slept. These creatures swayed in the wind, as if to strangle all who presided within. At a moment late into the night, a tresspassor crept in through Waco's chamber, barefoot, so as to make no noise. In his hand he held a knife. He steped closer and thrust the dagger into the Emperor's throat, so he would not screem. Twice he thrust it into the kid's chest. Waco never awoke. The knife which before glistened in the moons light, now cried the blood of an empire. An Empire with no leader. Rome would also cry that night, for who would lead her...Only time will tell.........

Summary - well, we have legionary now, and should start building them so we can start our conquest. The area West of rome has a horse and an Iron, and we could probably fit at least 3 cities over there. The road to Cumae should be completed in great haste. We are at peace with everyone as of now, and should so remain untill we build enough legionary. First off I would look the the west to colonize. But that's just my opinion.

-Waco Kid

I've sent off the saved game, so hopefully we'll be reading about it soon.

-Waco Kid:sheep:

could u post the savegame here, too? please :)

:mad: NO!:finger:


just kidding. :cool:

-Waco

thx a lot :D

in case anyone wants to see a screenshot of our 1500BC-world, here (http://www.zmatlo.at/civ3/rome_world/1500BC.jpg) it is :)

I have some turns to finish on RBD13 but will get to this one tonight and post the results as soon as possible.

:goodjob: all :)

If no new player comes along and requests to play then I am next in line to play...

Legions...[dance]

The early writings of Soreus, clearly demonstrate that during the period around 1000 BC the Roman Empire enjoyed a burst of significant growth. Ruled for a long time by several rulers calling themselves builders, after the first of their line Meldor. As many books have been writen about this period, we will endevor to hit only the high spots.

The first record of Meldor the Builder dates back to approximately 1500 BC, and begins with the sudden death of the previous emperor. The resulting anarchy and trials, allowed a more gentle period to begin in Rome's history.

The first acts of this new ruler were to stop the building of an offensive army in Rome, and begin the construction of a great Pyramid. It was noted that several of the civilizations surrounding Rome also attempted to build a simular facade. This ediface was not complete at the end of the reign of builders and history shows that the English were just slightly behind them in its construction.

A brief summary of the collective builders is found in the Sicilian scrolls and is paraphrased as follows:

Pre-turn Switch Rome to Pyramids. On this map size and with Europe, Asia and Africa as one connected land mass, this wonder is too huge to allow any one else to get it. This one and Sun Tzu's will be must haves. All the others will be nice. However, it will be 85 turns to completion...this will not cut it.

1) 1475 BC - Warrior invades village, villagers flee but warriors collect 50g. Start minig everything not nailed down in ROME.

2) 1450 BC - The villagers had fled to an encampment north of the village. The warrior disperses this encampment and finds a further 25g for the treasury. We purchase contact with England for 30g. We would buy contact with Russia, but we are next to their border and will have it next turn anyway. Sell contact with England to everyone else for 48g.

3) 1425 BC - Get contact with Russia, the are broke and behind in tech.

4) 1400 BC - Chase off a German archer. Germany starts the Pyramids.

5) 1375 BC - Pull archer and send it towards Rome. Ro,e will expand to six in two turns and riot if it only has on garrison.

6) 1350 BC - Archer in Rome, archer to the south is sent north as a replacement.

7) 1325 BC - Archer fortified and Rome grows, still working on gettting Rome in shape to get Pyramids. Have cut time down to 65 turns. Russia starts the Pyramids.

9) 1275 BC - Neapolis founded near western coast of expansion lands.

10) 1250 BC - England finishes the Colossus and starts the Pyramids....we are down to 32 turns but this could be trouble. We don't have any Embassies so I take this time to get them with the countris that are most likely to give us trouble on the Pyramids. Just as I feared, England is 5 turns ahead of us.

12) 1200 BC - Persia, Greece and France all start the Pyramids but they are too late to give any competition. I have shaved another 2 turns off and we are now only 3 turns behind.

13) 1175 BC - We trade France Horeback riding for 40g and Mysticism. We then sell it to everyone else for another 65g. Keep them all broke is what I say.

17) 1075 BC - Eygpt begins the Oracle

19) 1025 BC - Germany demands our full treasury, I tell him to politely go away....he declared war!

20) 1000 BC - Pyramids have 2 more shaved off. We are now only 1 behind. One German horse driven off. Archer is attacked and kills a German Archer. Pompeii founded.

22) 950 BC - The Greeks join the Germans against us. I tried to get England in on our side, if for nothing more than to slow their Pyramid effort, but no dice.

24) 900 BC - I took a couple of extra turns to get us the Pyramids. 2 more turns have been shaved off. We are now one turn ahead of the English.

Notes: There is one more settler in the Spain area. Two cities are now building Vet Legions. Once these attck Germany, it should start our Golden age. This should get us the Pyramids without any sweat. I would suggest that if there is no cascade to the Great Library that we get that as well during our Golden age. The next tech should probably be construction as our cities will be bursting at the seems with the Pyramids. Please do not mess with Rome unless you can increase its shields. I did take a couple of extra turns, and will gladly give them back next time I play. We are in very good position now to wipe Europe. There are two spears in almost every city, so growth to six should not be a problem if we watch when it occurs.

Good Luck!

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/Caesar_of_the_Romans,_900_BC.zip

Our neck of the woods, circa 900 BC

Hey kitten, i say you just start up your turn. I think 4 will be good. If someone shows up later then we can fit them in at the end or something (I WANT TO PLAY!!!!)


-waco

875 B.C (1)

The line of Meldor peacefully came to an end...Kittanus an adopted son forming the new Dynasty as Meldor the Aged had no sons.

The Empire is extremely prosperous with the population happy with their lot and our army extremely strong for defensive purposes. Roads link nearly every city and we have numerous work teams constructing new roads, irrigation and mines.

In short ruling the Empire was easy for the young Kittanus and he could concentrate on improving his Palace and finding wives...

Empire:
Cumae constucts another unit of spearmen...and starts upon the construction of "City Walls" in case of Germanic/Greek invasion.

Kittanus forms the Legions of the Rhine...which are sent to defend the Rhine border we have with the German Empire.

Whilst on the vast Steppes roaming the lands between French settlements our charioteers explore...

Kittanus looks to trade abroad, technology, maps and other commodities, but finds the other Civilisations hostile of barren...

850 B.C (2)

Veii builds a Legion, it will join the Legions of the Rhine.

We send a Spearman unit over the Alps to prevent the Germans grazing horses on the fertile Hungarian Plain.

Whilst in the West a Legion crosses the Rhine and heads into the Black Forest to suppress the Germanic peoples living there.

825 B.C (3)

On crossing the Danube our Spearmen are surrounded by horsemen and crushed in a bloody battle, the German horsement then cross the Danube and head for Antium.

Pisea is founded...in the West...it is our furthest West City...

800 B.C (4)

Germans send archers towards Antium...we respond by sending a newly raised Legion to meet them.

Our wise men invent "Literacy", Kittanus directs them towards the art of mapmaking.

Cumae completes her "City Walls" and begins construction of a Temple to the God Mars.

775 B.C (5)

Germans cross Danube into grasslands rich in cattle...

In a night attack our Legion of the Danube descends from the Mountains near Antium and annhilates the German forces...in the encounter not one Roman was killed! This marked the entry of the Roman Civilisation into a "Golden Age"!

750 b.c (6)

Lutetia and Veii complete Legions...

On the Steppe we come across Corinth (a Greek town)...our chariots enter the undefended settlement and burn it to the ground leaving the survivors to starve...

730 B.C (7)

The Germans capture some of our workers constructing a road to aid our offensive on Berlin...

In the counteroffensive archers and horsemen pour out of Berlin...it may mean that Berlin is now vulnerable!

A Legion assaults Berlin...failure...we hold off with the other Legion and have the Legion of the Danube recapture our workers and kill the archers guarding it.

In this action our Legion becomes Elite in skill...and no wonder!

710 B.C (8)

Our Elite Legionairies defend the workers before striking East and butchering another force of archers. In the heat of that Battle a Roman Officer excelled himself in leading the Legionaires against the archers, that man was Trajan!

We gain a great leader! Trajan.

Recognised as a leader of men that could control an massive host of men Kittanus calls Trajan from his exposed Legion back to Antium.

Whist in the hills around Antium our archers strike out and destroy the Germanic horsemen threatening the city...the workers and Trajan can safely return. Trajan is to gather to him an army in Antium.

690 B.C (9)

Without Trajan the Danube legion is destroyed by Germanic horsemen.

Trajan awaits in Antium to create an army!

Antium is fortified to become a base of operations.

Meanwhile Berlin is beseiged by 2 of our Rhine Legions.

670 B.C (10)

Setup embassy in Babylon...this is a small Nation or no threat to Rome.

Greek archers approach Cumae...the defences will be tested!

We eliminate the German source of horse for Berlin...Leipzig has a local supply...

650 B.C (11)

Despite our walls at Cumae, the Greek archers beat our spearmen...could we lose the city???

The Russians demand writing, and we refuse...war...our larger army did not deter them...

630 B.C (12)

We complete the Pyramids...other Civilisations direct their constructions towards "The Oracle", whilst the English work on a "Great Lighthouse."

Antium builds walls, greeks withdraw from around cumae.

Our legion around berlin destroys another horseman unit.

Germans have horses near leipzip...at least berlin can't build them.

Lutetia to build us some settlers.

An army of 4 legions led by Trajan heads north for berlin!

610 B.C (13)

Berlin complete the Oracle :)

590 b.c (14)

veii completes a temple.


Trajan leads his army of 4 legions against Berlin...he fails to take the city, but kills a spearman.

From the East a veteran legion attacks and crushs another pikeman.

Another legion of elite legionaires follows up Trajans offensive and defeats the remaining spearmen around the palace in Berlin. Berlin falls.

We capture gold, workers and the Oracle!

Very tough resistance remains!


570 B.C (15)

We start suppressing resistors in Berlin.

Persians contact us...swap world maps...we give them writing to gain this deal.

Germans turn down our demand for their surrender.

Greeks fail to attack Cumae...

We discover mapmaking target maths.

550 B.C (16)

Lutetia celebrates we love the emperor day...

our army ignores the german archers and heads directly for leipzig.

In the Balkans the greek threatening archers are killed by legion.

Egypt embassy formed.

rome building Great Library.

530 B.C (17)

Assault on leipzig successful, another legion becomes elite...town holds still.

German archers in plains of Hungary thrashed.

Balkans...greek horsies forced back by rampaging legion

510 B.C (18)

SHOCK!

Slaughter of Roman Army at Leipzig...Trajan dead!!!

Roman legion kills german horsemen and buries the dead of the battle.

Berlin revolting!

Lutetia builds settlers.

490 BC (19)

Roman Legion assaults Leipzig...same fate as Army...

Balkan legion dies...but Greeks suffer massive casualties as they try to kill the supporting spearmen...

English land near lutetia keen on settling.



470 B.C (20)

English build Notthingham

Peace made with Greeks.

Peace made with Germans...territory map, 2 workers and a little gold in return.

Peace with Russians...we get a territory map in return!

450 B.C (new reign begins)



:o Write-up will be finish later I need sleep!!! I had finished it but DAMN Internet Explorer crashed and lost half of it...all the links to my 9 screenies! :o

Too tired to do that now...:(

I attach the savegame...Lemming is to play...

Short Summary:

Great Leader, been and gone :) :(

We have the Pyramids and the Oracle, we captured Berlin and are now at peace with everyone...in essence our Empire is in an excellent condition, shame about the recent military defeats...


ADDED SCREENSHOTS!

Follow link below:

http://www.hostultra.com/~kittenochaos/Reign_of_Kittanus.html

ENJOY!

i got the game, will play asap :)

this is my story:


450 BC: I examine our situation:

hm, looking very good :) great job taking berlin and the oracle…I would really like to crush the germans once and for all, well lets see what I can do :)

Ravenna is founded;
I exchange world maps with everyone, wow, Russia is growing fast, germany also has a town far in the east of Russia, so taking them out completely will not be possible as easy as I thought…France, Persia and Russia have much land to settle and expand

430 BC (1): London completes the great lighthouse;
veii produces a settler, lutetia a worker -> starting the heroic epic;
pisae build a galley

410 BC (2): France starts building the great library -> they will be complete in 11 turns (!!!) DARN!! I want the GL! Maybe I should try to get another Leader?

390 BC (3): I exchange world maps with Persia

370 BC (4): I declare war to the germans

350 BC (5): nothing

330 BC (6): we destroy hamburg and capture an enemy worker

310 BC (7): Berlin builds temple, veii builds a library, Pompeii builds a temple

290 BC (8): Hispalis is founded at the former place of hamburg

270 BC (9): We discover the Chinese, we exchange world maps and they give us contact with the Indians. We exchange world maps with the Indians

250 BC (10): Our golden age has ended :(

230 BC (11): Nothing

210 BC (12): Nothing

190 BC (13): Pisae builds a temple, Paris completes the great library, DAMN! I cannot think of anything that would have prevented this :mad:…damn, damn, damn…rome has lots of shields produced but nothing to switch to :(

170 BC (14): after heavy losses, we finally take Leipzig! YES!
Rome switched production to harbour and is losing 82 shields :mad:

150 BC (15): nothing

130 BC (16): nothing

110 BC (17): nothing

90 BC (18): We declare war to the greeks and capture Sparta! :D We discover the Zulus!

70 BC (19): we discover construction

50 BC (20): nothing

30 BC (21): we complete the heroic epic in lutetia!

10 BC (22): we capture Athens! YES! end of turn...

Excuse me for playing two additional turns, I justed wanted to crush the damn greeks :)


here (http://www.zmatlo.at/civ3/rome_world/10BC.jpg) is a screen of our world

here (http://www.zmatlo.at/civ3/rome_world/10_BC.zip) is the savegame...

some comments:
i really enjoyed this turn, although the french built the GL :(...BUT i really wanted to go to war this time and i think it was the right decision...germany and greece are now weakened significantly, moreover we have to expand and that means fighting the other civs (russians are next, i think)...

so i'm really looking forward to the next players, i'm very curious how this continues :)

over and out...

I have DL'd the sav and will play later today.

-Waco

Due to time constraints, this write up is brief. Before starting my first turn, i traded constructrion to England and Russia for 70g and 80g+world map.

10 A.D. - Shuffle troops around. Plans are being developed by the Roman brass for a Great Invasion. It's success will be based on the element of suprise. It's plans are secret, as is it's mission

30 A.D. - Increased Science output to 100%. Vow to take Thermopylae in two turns.

50 A.D. - Two German Archers approach our territory. They are destroyed.

70 A.D. - Thermopylae invasion postponned. A larger army will be needed.

90 A.D. - Defeat German archer out side Leipzig. Defeat Greek archer out side Thermopylae. I decide that from here on out I will be writing Ther. for Thermopylae because Thermopylae is such a long word and i keep spelling it wrong and have to correct it and there is no reason to write out Thermopylae everytime you want to say Thermopylae when you could just abbreviate Thermopylae.
:crazyeye:

110 A.D. - Defeat German Archer outside Leipzig. Defeat barbaric encampment with charriot in the far east.

130 A.D. - Conquered Ther.

150 A.D. - Resting Victors of Therm. so they will be prepared to take Delphi to the north.

170 A.D. - Preparations for the Great Invasion running on schedule.

190 A.D. - Road completed to Therm. Attack squad positioned on hills overlooking Delphi. Peace treaty with Germany. We aquire 8g and Frankfurt (not a frankfurt, the Frankfurt, the city). I check out Frankfurt after the deal is done and realize that there are no troops in it and there are two Greek archers right outside the city. Crap.:cry:

210 A.D. - Frankfurt taken by Greeks. We lost 9g. Delphi destroyed at the cost of a few legion. :(

230 A.D. - Greek horsemen attack Sparta and loose.:spank: Galley production hurried in Neapolis at the cost of lives.

250 A.D. - Monarchy Descovered. The Empire of Rome has fallen into Anarchy. This unforseen tragedy causes a postponement of the Great Invasion.

260 A.D. - :sleep:

270 A.D. - :sheep:

280 A.D. - Declaring war on Babalon is not something which Rome wanted to do, but felt it necesarry to hinder their expansion. Babalonian archer and settler attacked outside ther. by our horsemen. They were forced to retreatfrom the battle, and so our Elite legion were called to finish them off. From this great victory was born the great leader Hadrian. He will lead us to better times.

290 A.D. - Our source of Iron near Neapolis has been depleated. We are now a monarchy.

300 A.D. - Hadrian leads the city of Rome in the construction of the Hanging Gardens. OOOOPS!!! 9 of our troops (8 legion, 1 spearmen) have just accidently landed in the country side of London. Perhaps they should be moved...

310 A.D. - ...into London!!!! We dropped the hammer on the English.:spank: Rejoice! The Great Lightouse is ours! Rejoice! We have captured the Colossus! Rejoice! 2 babalon archers destroyed outside Therm. Greece asks for peace treaty. We demand Frankfurt and Knossos. They accept.

320 A.D. - Trade world maps with Persia. London changed to Hadrian in honor of our great Leader. Nottingham is under seige, and reinforcements have just arrived. It should fall next turn.

We have 2 galleys left in the English channel. Use these to send more legion to the island. I think we should be able to have all the cities on those two islands by the end of the next reign. With the addition of Knossos from the Greeks in northern africa, i feel we should begin to colonize that area. For starters, we need troops in Knossos. That's why I started a Galley in Rome, to send some spearmen down there (don't forget to grab the goody hut on the way!). England has a city down there but most of NW Africa seems vacant. If Nottingham is destroyed in the fight, i think we should build a city there. It's a good spot. If someone wouldn't mind attaching a screenshot it would be appreciated. I haven't figured it out yet.

-Waco

DOH! I forgot to attatch the save.

-Waco

hehe :D :D GREAT turn, waco kid :goodjob:

england is so close, but somehow i didnt consider attacking them :) however, your story was a good laugh...

btw, here (http://www.zmatlo.at/civ3/rome_world/320AD.jpg) is a screenie

In case you couldn't figure it out from the reading, in 310 A.D. we built the hanging gardens. I forgot to make it a big deal and when i re-read my post, i wasn't sure how clear i made it. I was thinking we should also consider taking out the German capitol of Konigsberg in the moderate future. We just signed peace with them so we may want to wait a while. They also have a worker developing the land so we may as well allow him to make it a better place before we occupy it. As you can tell, I had a lot of fun playing that last round and am having trouble letting go...:sad:

-Waco

Meldor says he will be out of town till Thursday or Friday...so I'm next...Meldor can be fitted in as soon as he returns.


Other comments: I hope you two aren't ruining our reputation?
All my butchery was due to them starting it!

:crazyeye:

Before we get too celebratory, there will be much bigger fish to fry outside of Europe ;)

330 A.D - 540 A.D (21 turns)

"Class! Open your history books to page 235..."


"It was a time of heroes and it was a time of war...it was a time of heroes and war!

Men were real men, women were real men and all drank the fruit of the vine..."

:soldier:

Chaosius was Crowned in Rome in 330 A.D...

The previous line of Wacos renouncing the Throne in favour of commanding Legions at the front...an pursuit that suited better their worklike nature.


Chaosius was son of the Governor of Lutetia and had been "Consul of Rome" whilst the "Grand Waco" fought the English...his goal was to end the bloody wars Rome was engaged in as quickly as possible and improve the economy and living standards of the whole Civilisation and be remembered as a benefactor of humanity rather than a warrior.


1. 330 A.D

Renaming of "Hadrian" to Londinium to try and Romanify the English citizens at the same time as respecting their history!

A quick round of attempted diplomacy reveals complete distrust of our Nation...few emissaries are welcomed in foreign capitals...the Egyptians allow swapping of territory maps, but beyond that are hostile to our advances.

As a result Chaosius commands:

1. Quick resolution of wars by applying maximum force to bring opponents to the negociating table.

2. Start construction of aqueducts in cities requiring it now or soon. Elsewhere concentrate on marketplaces which will boost the income of the Empire.

A result of the distrust and failure to open negociation is that Babylon will take and destroy Frankfurt...
A result of our powerful Legions is that Nottinghams Spearmen are overwhelmed by our Legons and the city is ours.

[plasma]


2. 340 A.D

Babylons as expected burn Frankfurt to the ground...Chaosius is blamed by those ignorant of the real situation, the German ambassador is horrified that Germans in the Roman Empire were left to die this way. The Guard is doubled in Berlin.

Despite this the people fund an expansion to the Palace (which is so backward Chaosius refuses to go there!)...


Resistance in Londinium continues causing fires in the poor parts of the city, the army tries to enfore order.


3. 350 A.D

Technology: "Currency" - NEW AGE - Research "Monotheism"

English launch from numerous ships horsemen in counteroffensive in England...the Roman Army prepares for some major battles...


Whilst in Africa a vast barbarian horde is reported near Knossos...however it looks like the English Cities on that Continent will absorb the blow.


4. 360 A.D

Once again a people rejoicing that most the Empire is free of war, disease and hunger pay for improvements to the Palace.

In general the Empire is concentrating upon internal reforms...


Whilst in England: English warriors destroy an offensive launched from Londinum by Veteran Legions...

Whilst in Sicily: Roman Legion lands and extracts 50 gold from the tribespeople there.


5. 370 A.D

The ongoing war in Babylonia brings large Roman casualites caused by Swordsmen and Babylonian Archers...still the advance on Babylon continues.


England: Bristol in the west of England falls after Roman troops from Nottingham are shipped in.


6. 380 A.D

Fighting in Yorkshire produces a "Great Leader" called Maximus...he is said to have the blood of a Waco (wonder how he got it!) and he is promptly sent to London to advise the Governor on the up and coming attack in Scotland.

:hammer:


7. 390 A.D

Peace with Babylonia is made when the Roman Legions approach the suburbs of Babylon...the terms are:

1. Babylonian Slaves to be sent to Rome
2. Territory maps of Babylonia to be handed over.
3. Communications with the Japanese forfeited.

Considering how little I wished to commit to this war I am pleased with the results.


8. 400 A.D

Japanese envoys contact us, territory maps are swapped and we make peace.


9. 410 A.D

Viroconium founded in Southern Italy.

Whilst in Thebes a "Great Wall" is constructed to fend off enemies and barbarians...


10. 420 A.D

The territory of the Roman Empire are free of War...the people concern themselves with life.


11. 430 A.D

A wave of unhappiness spreads through several cities, population growth outstripping the Empire's ability to provide jobs, houses and luxuries!

Chaosius injects money into the economy not effected by the unrest to prevent it being repeated elsewhere.


12. 440 A.D

Technology: "Monotheism" - "Theology" is being researched.

Scotland: A massive assault is launched by the Roman Army in the Highlands to take the Capital of Queen Elizabeth. Although the English lose more men, their resistance and number makes conquest in this offensive impossible.


Chaosius demands the English look for peace as we sit at the gates of their capital...PEACE! The Terms are:

1. 20 gold
2. 2 English Worker parties to be sent to Rome to work building roads in the Empire.
3. Maps

The English Nation can now be safely considered a vassal nation and we need not concern ourself pursuing their destruction.


13. 450 A.D

Pax Imperialis!


14. 460 A.D

"Lugdinium" is founded in Norway.

15. 470 A.D

"Byzantium" founded on Crete!

We swap "world maps" with the Chinese and Greek Civilisation.

Pax Imperialis!


16. 480 A.D

Pax Imperialis!


17. 490 A.D

Pax Imperialis!


18. 500 A.D

"Brundisium" founded on the Rhine near Helvetia!


The "Great Leader" Maximus visits Denmark...


Whilst in Kamchatka our charioteers are beset by a tribe of barbarians whom them kill improving themselves to "Elite".


19. 510 A.D

Pax Imperialis! :rolleyes:


20. 520 A.D

Patciral village near Lugdinium is found to be deserted...


Russia refuses a "Right of Passage Treaty" due to a historic sneak attack by Rome on Germany under such a treaty...presumably in the Reign of Lemming?/Meldor?/Waco?

:spank:


21. 530 A.D

"Syracuse" is founded near Antium...

Taxation is adjusted to:

50% for the coffers
40 % for science
10 % for luxuries...to elminate the unrest when populations grow (very effective!) and reduce production lost by such events.


540 A.D

Chaosius dies of extreme old age...heading up the life expectancy demographics :)

Start of a new reign!

:nya2:




SCREENIES:

REIGN 3 kittenOFchaos "Civ3 on Earth" Succession Game.

1. Anatolia 540 A.D
2. Europe: zoom out shot 540 A.D
3. Maximus is in Rome!
4. Demographics in 330 A.D start of Chaosius Reign.
5. Demographics in 540 A.D at END of Chaosius Reign

To view screenies visit the webpage linked below:

http://www.hostultra.com/~kittenochaos/reignchaosius.html

[pimp]


In Summary:

Near doubling productivity, GNP, population and Manufactered goods in addition to raising life expectency by 6 years is good!

Furthermore the cities are well protected and we have no wars distracting us from growth!

We have a "Great Leader" Maximus in Rome...surely he will be useful for some "Great Project" or other in the near future...


I advise we try and not ruin our reputation any more than we have done so already and concentrate on developing our Empire internally, "Kick the World, break your foot" as they say in Siberia!



Whoever wants to play next download the savegame AND then post to say you have it...3 days max! Hopefully Meldor will be able to play soon.

:king:

I'm ready to play but i'll give lemming a chance to buzz in since it's supposed to be his turn. As for attacking Germany, that i'm sure wasn't me. I've only sued for peace with the Germans in my turns. The English and the Babalonians, well there i'm guilty. Oh well, no use arguing about it. I would agree that we shouldn't be attacking anyone whom we have treaties with (right of passage, mutual protection) but i'm sure we didn't have any with the Eng. and Babs. Anyway, i'm just babbling.:splat:

-Waco: :love:er of :sheep:

i got the game, will play asap :)

I have created a webpage where you can view 9 screenshots of my Reign 2 "The Reign of Kittanus" which shows Roman History from "875 B.C - 450 B.C".

http://www.hostultra.com/~kittenochaos/Reign_of_Kittanus.html

Enjoy!

:king:

i'm sorry, i'm out of this game :(
I'm too busy right now with university, my work and my GF, i just dont have enough time to do these games :cry:
sorry for letting you waiting so long :(

If I recall, Germany attacked us during my last turn....unless we made peace and someone broke it since then....

I have seen this message even without RoP violation, if you attack a country without first declaring war diplomatically.

Meldor do you want to pickup where I left it?

Looks like the host I've put those pictures on is having technical difficulties...:(

I see, hear, and obey....

I'm entering my last week of classes before finals, so i'm gonna be busy for the next couple weeks. Not sure how much P.T. i'll be able to get in. I'll let you guys know when I'm ready to play again.

I'm doing my finals too...so I've got tonnes of free time!

Preturn 540 AD - We have a lot of cities that have an excess of food, too many irrigated squares. Most of the cities are on coastlines and don't need to irrigate with a harbor in place. Rome is in this catagory. It is already at twelve, the extra food will just make the people unhappy due to overcrowding. I buy fuedalizm for our world map and switch Rome to Sun Tzu's (due in 26 turns). I start mining every square I can around Rome. Theology is due in 20 turns, I move science up and it is now due in 14.

1) 550 AD - More mining around Rome. Leipzig finishes the marketplace and starts on a Library, London finishes its marketplace and starts on a barracks. Egypt, Russia, England, China, India, France, Persia, and the Zulu all start on Sun Tzu's.

2) 560 AD - First mine completed at Rome shaves 2 turns off of AoW. Ravenna finishes Market starts Courthouse, Knossos finishes Tample starts Courthouse, Byzantuim finishes a warrior and starts a Temple.

3) 570 AD - Cumae finishes Market starts Courthouse, Neapolis finishes Aqueduct starts courthouse.

4) 580 AD - London finishes Rax and starts Courthouse, Thermopylae finiahes its Aqueduct and starts a Courthouse.

5) 590 AD - Berlin finishes a Cathedral and starts a courthouse, Pompeii finishes a Marketplace and starts a courthouse. Nottingham finishes a Temple and starts a courthouse.

6) 600 AD - Athens finishes its Marketplace and starts a Courthouse.

7) 610 AD - Meldor takes vacation. Nothing happens.

8) 620 AD - Lutetia finishes its Courthouse and starts a Marketplace. Leipzip finishes its Library and starts a Courthouse, Bristol finishes a Temple and starts an Aqueduct. Pisae finishes its Harbor and starts a Galley.

9) 630 AD - Meldor is please to announce that the Romans are the first to make it to the North Pole. The icey lands so inspire him that he names them Greenland. A settler and legionare land on a nice green island we name iceland. (You thought I was asleep at the whell this whole time, eh?) Cumae finishes Courthouse and starts a Library, Hispalis finishes Aqueduct starts Courthouse, Vircoconium finishes Temple starts Marketplace. Babylon decides to jion the party and start Sun Tzu's AoW.

10) 640 AD - Sparta finishes a Cathedral and starts a Courthouse. The goodie hut on Iceland is popped and found empty.

11) 650 AD - CaesarAugusta founded on Iceland starts Temple. Londonium finishes Courthouse and starts Library. Ravenna finishes courthouse and starts Libarary.

12) 660 AD - We finish Theology (No more Oracle) and start Education. Berlin finishes its Courthouse and starts a Library, Thermopylae finishes Courthouse and starts Library, Pisae finishes a Galley and starts a Marletplace.

13) 670 AD - Antium is started on the Sistine Chapel (due in 29 turns) There is excess food in Antium and worker will start mining there when finished with Rome. Palmyra founded on Iceland, starts warrior. Lutetia finishes Marketplace and starts Coloseum. Athens finishes Courthouse and starts Library.

14) 680 AD - Cumae finishes its Library and starts a Harbor. Pompeii finishes its Courthouse and starts a Harbor. The people decide to add a second floor to the palace.

15) 690 AD - Brundisium finishes Temple starts Marketplace. Japan, lowest of them all, finally starts Sun Tzu's.

16) 700 AD - Leipzig finishes its Courthouse and starts a Colosseum, Sparta finishes a Courthouse and starts a Colosseum. Opps, I guess Germany is lower than Japan as they jion the Sun Tzu race.

17) 710 AD - Londonium finishes its Library and starts a Colosseum, Ravenna finishes its Library and starts a Colosseum. Babylon, Egypt, China, and the Zulu all start Sistine.

18) 720 AD - Berlin finishes its Library and starts a Colosseum. The people are happy to add another floor to the palace. The French and Indians jion race for Sistine.

19) 730 AD - Thermopylae finishes Library and starts Colosseum, Cumae finishes its Harbor and starts Library. Neapolis finishes Courthouse and starts a Harbor. The people must love us as they top off the palace with a nice observatory and dome. Persia Starts the Sistine.

20) 740 AD - Goodie hut in Greenland popped for a local map. Athens finishes Library starts Colosseum. Veii finishes Courthouse and starts Colosseum, Nottingham finishes Courthouse and starts Aqueduct. Knossos finishes courthouse and starts worker.

21) 750 AD - HAD to take one more......We have Sun Tzu's and a RAX in every city on this continent. Rome is started on a Coloseum. Everyone else cascades to Sistine.

Notes: All of the cascades to the Sistine from Sun Tzu's puts them about 11 turns ahead of us as that is when most of them started Sistine. You should also note that I did not use the great leader that is in Rome. There are three ways I see to go from here.

1) We bet that we will finish Sistines ahead of them and they will have nothing to cascade to as we are on Eduction and one tech away from JS Bach's. There is also Leo's but no one has the Tech yet. We can then either use the leader to rush Bach's or Newton's

2) Use the leader to finish Sistine and let the cascade stop as no other wonder is available (make sure no one snuck in Inventiion or they will get Leo's). The best way to do this would be to have Antium switch to the palace, and rush build the Sistine in Rome. (This will save the shields already put towards the Sistine in Antium). Once Bach's is available, switch Antium to Bach's from palace and it will be ours. Also we can start a prebuild of the FP somewhere when it gets closer to snag Leo's if we want it.

3) Same as 1) except we ship the great leader over to the new world and rush an FP. There are two settlers and one escort onthe way there right now off of Greenland.

There is also one settler and escort on ship off the western coast of Africa. They can settle where you like, just pop the goodie huts along the way with the spear.

In summary, I spent a lot of time gettting us built up in infrastructure. Once we have Cathedrals in the cities we can start building Knights and go after Europe again. We are now in position to out produce all of them. Since we are currently the only ones that can travel sea squares we should make hay in the new world while eveyone else watches. Do not sell our maps to anyone until we have a firm hold on the new world. If it were up to me, I would risk losing Sistine knowing we have Bach's in the bag and ship the leader over to the new world to give us an expansion boost that no one else will be able to match over there.




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Looks like it is just you and me Meldor till we can get some more players...

So we are now in the New World, can't wait to see what sort of civilisation exists over there!

So, are you playing?

When I get some time to...what with CS 1.4 being out and all :)

Are we still playing?

Well, I've finished school for the semester, so I'm ready to play. One problem: I've downloaded the new patch, so will I be able to play without reinstalling the old one? If not i'd be willing to maybe scrap this one and start another. We could be Rome again or what ever. Doesn't matter to me. Just interested to see how others feel about the subject.

-waco

As long as the new patch doesn't care about the old map size I think we will be OK, but I haven't checked it. We are still waiting for KoC to take a turn.

Originally posted by meldor
As long as the new patch doesn't care about the old map size I think we will be OK, but I haven't checked it. We are still waiting for KoC to take a turn.


1 - I have played world maps started with 1.17 and switched to 1.21 without problems.

2 - KoC is a problem here - when the thread starter is late, what do you do?

2 issues.....

1) Do you want to join Lee?

2) If KoC doesn't respond....

I think you would be welcome and if KOC doesn't post within 24 Hrs, Waco Kid plays and we continue on.......

I will email KoC with a PROD.

I am overbooked in games right now.

The last thing I need is to add another.

Somehow the scenario file I used for this succession game was one that never had the accursed University/wonder bug in it!

Now I have been looking and have posted a request for a BIC editor/swapper.

Gramphos says he is working on one...for some reason University had been "tagged" with small wonder status and that leads to crashage due to civ3's excellent error checking -or lack of it!

I had played on about 10 turns before I crashed...maybe you won't.

Well if you are looking for a world map game.

AND you are a good warmonger.

Check out:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22688