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Thunderfall
Aug 17, 2006, 09:07 PM
GameSpot recently posted an article (http://www.gamespot.com/features/6155640/index.html) listing some great games that don't require great hardware. Most of the games listed are relatively old but there are also newer games like Civilization IV and Heroes of Might and Magic V. Despite what it says, you do need a decent computer to run both games.


An article on TG Daily (http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/01/opinion_educational_games/) writes that educating kids with video games is a laudable, but doomed, idea. Civilization IV is one of the educational games mentioned.


IGN recently listed (http://cube.ign.com/articles/722/722624p1.html) the Top Ten Games that Teach You Something. Civilization IV is on the list at #3.


The September edition of PC Gamer UK compiled a list of Top 100 Games of All Time. Civilization IV is at #6 and The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion is placed at #1.


For the week of July 30 - August 5 (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6155988.html), Civ4 Warlords is #3 in the US PC Games Sales Chart, dropping only 1 place from the previous (release) week.


If you still haven't bought Civilization IV yet, now may be a good time to buy. Amazon.com is selling it for $38.99, and Civ4 Warlords for $25.99.

Honda Tadakatsu
Aug 18, 2006, 04:15 AM
"See Title" in fact I used the civilopedia entry for physics in Civ 4 as a quote in a paper/speech.

TheDS
Aug 18, 2006, 11:20 AM
I think this proves once and for all that Gamespot is worthless, since they don't even bother to play games before making nebulous claims about them.

lost_civantares
Aug 18, 2006, 11:28 AM
I know that oblivion is cool and everything, but number 1 for all time? That's quite a claim, and one that really doesn't make sense to me, there have been other much more revolutionary games out there.

Vind2
Aug 18, 2006, 02:32 PM
I agree. (Testing something)

Myzenium
Aug 18, 2006, 03:44 PM
Educating kids with video games - a laudable, but doomed, idea
Wolfgang Gruener's article was on target and accurate on all points except the title. Laudable, but doomed? It wouldn't surprise me if his supervisor was to blame for that. The journalist said himself, "Unfortunately I can't see this shift towards repurposing existing games towards education happening until at least parents, teachers, administrators and politicians are of a gaming generation who can understand and properly exploit gaming for the purpose of education."

So educational video gaming isn't "doomed" to never penetrate our schools; it just needs time, a generation or two.

NHJ BV
Aug 19, 2006, 06:25 AM
Oblivion #1 of all time? Ahahahahahahahaha :lol:

It may be a good game but I wouldn't call it Game of the Year, let alone #1 of all time. They should really disregard anything made in the last two years for lists like this.

classical_hero
Aug 20, 2006, 09:14 AM
Does anyone remember the number game that taught us, Carmen Sandiego? That was an excellent game to play. I must find one of those games.

Caradoc
Aug 22, 2006, 08:37 PM
Though you do need a good computer to play CIV and Heroes V, you shouldn't. The gratuitous graphics add very little to the game are mainly a waste of the developer's budget. Perversely, they have the effect of making user mods and scenarios more difficult, which undermines one of the essential reasons these franchises have been so successful. Yeah, they are good to look at the first 20 times you see them, but after that, the animations are just in the way.