Her B sample came back negative...

http://sports.yahoo.com/sa/news;_ylt=AncjKLI01PU5F1TIlBjYN8E5nYcB?slug=ap-jones-drugs&prov=ap&type=lgns


I guess it's just refreshing to see that they DO tell the truth sometimes.

Oh, also, the NFL is talking about revamping thier drug abuse policy. What do you think the standard should be in professional or college sports?

Her B sample came back negative...

http://sports.yahoo.com/sa/news;_ylt=AncjKLI01PU5F1TIlBjYN8E5nYcB?slug=ap-jones-drugs&prov=ap&type=lgns


I guess it's just refreshing to see that they DO tell the truth sometimes.

Oh, also, the NFL is talking about revamping thier drug abuse policy. What do you think the standard should be in professional or college sports?

They should stop testing for recreational drugs, and devote more time and money to screening for performance-enhancing ones.

When samples turn out as positive, everyone claims that the samples have been tampered. Except the major public.
When samples turn out as negative, nobody claims that the samples have been tampered. Except the major public.

Personally I think that Marion Jones deserves a solid kick in the nuts. ;)

Personally I think that Marion Jones deserves a solid kick in the nuts. ;)
:rotfl:

Man if you did do that then two things are possibly very wrong with that scenario. :cringe: :scared: :yuck:

Time for a good Bump, me thinks. :bump:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/olympics/stories/100607dnspojoneslede.380dad3.html

Ex-track star admits lying to investigators about her steroid use.
For years, Marion Jones angrily denied using steroids. Friday, she admitted it was all a lie. The three-time Olympic gold medalist pleaded guilty to lying to federal investigators when she denied using performance-enhancing drugs, and announced her retirement after the hearing.

Well, that really turned out well. Wonder if there are any lessons from the case that could be applied to people investigating others.

Speaking of me looking silly...

Afterall, Marion Jones is more man than he looks ;)

It's getting to be like smelly poots, if you deny it - you did it :lol: .


She shouted at the world, said there was no way... now look at her :mad: .

She should probably have had to go to jail for awhile too... cause you know
she was also lying about the check cashing/money laundering stuff :rolleyes: .

Let's widen this discussion with some questions.

Who is more to blame, Trevor Graham (who gave her doping) or Marion (who took the doping thinking it was a flaxseed oil supplement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Jones#Guilty_plea_to_steroid_use)) ?

She was cleared of doping allegetions on September 6th 2006 since tests of her "B" sample tested negative. How serious should we now take test-results ? Should we still honour the principle of "innocent until proven guilty" in doping related matters ?

Yeah, marion thought it was supplement. Just like she wasn't using doping.... :)

It's like the finnish long-distance runner Martti Vainio, in Los Angeles -84, when he got second in the 10 km run.

And got caught using anabolic steroids. He said something like: "My janitor must have injected them in me without my knowledge..."

Janitor?

JANITOR?!?
Yee-haw!

Still, Ben Johnson's allegation of "a friend of Carl Lewis putting dope in my beer in the call room" beats the janitor story.

Seriously, is there anyone surprised that Marion Jones used? The only surprise is that she confessed this time, and thus facing jail time. Dumb.

Still, Ben Johnson's allegation of "a friend of Carl Lewis putting dope in my beer in the call room" beats the janitor story.

Seriously, is there anyone surprised that Marion Jones used? The only surprise is that she confessed this time, and thus facing jail time. Dumb.

She probably made a deal with the prosecutors to get out of charges for some fraud thingiyes, if i remember my reading correctly.

Wich perhaps i dont, but i know she confessed so she wouldnt have to confess to something else we all know she did anyway.

Who is more to blame, Trevor Graham (who gave her doping) or Marion (who took the doping thinking it was a flaxseed oil supplement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Jones#Guilty_plea_to_steroid_use)) ?

I think it would be pretty difficult to believe Marion honestly thought she was taking some tame substance; she doesn't really have a record of being completely honest now, does she?

She was cleared of doping allegetions on September 6th 2006 since tests of her "B" sample tested negative. How serious should we now take test-results ? Should we still honour the principle of "innocent until proven guilty" in doping related matters ?

As it stands, test results are the best we've got. I don't know much about doping tests, but it would appear that they've got to be made more extensive. If that means testing runners after every race, cyclists after every stage, and baseball players after every game, so be it; as a fan, I prefer to see the sanctioning body of the sport show concern about its integrity. I'm sure there would still be users who would go undetected, but it wouldn't be as frequent an occurence, hopefully.

I think it would be pretty difficult to believe Marion honestly thought she was taking some tame substance; she doesn't really have a record of being completely honest now, does she?I wouldn't now about that. I do recall more doped athletes sincerely oblivious that they were being doped. The majority of those were East-German athletes.
Not knowing in itself is no carte blanche for avoiding prosecution, but it adds to the complexity of the matter.
As it stands, test results are the best we've got. I don't know much about doping tests, but it would appear that they've got to be made more extensive. If that means testing runners after every race, cyclists after every stage, and baseball players after every game, so be it; as a fan, I prefer to see the sanctioning body of the sport show concern about its integrity. I'm sure there would still be users who would go undetected, but it wouldn't be as frequent an occurence, hopefully.I've watched a programme on the East-Germany doping system. There existed a bureau that tested state-doped athletes before leaving East-Germany on detectable doping. If those were detected they couldn't leave the country to participate. If those weren't detected (but obviuosly had their performance enhancing effects functioning) they could go. Detection isn't everything. At best that only identifies the ill-advised dope users, not the professionally aided.
As a result of this, out-of-competition tests were created. They help, but aren't a guarantee sports are dope-free. I'm starting to wonder whether doping-hunting isn't a lost cause and a Utopia. :(

I think you despair too much. It's just how the world works. People develop ways to detect these things and other people develop ways to beat the system. Rinse and repeat.