View Full Version : so complicated !!!!!!!!!!!


MasrTheEgyptian
Sep 08, 2006, 06:49 PM
Civ IV is so complicated I think I will be visiting the quick answers section too often if only sid made a better tutorial !!!!!!!!!
any way sid was talking in the tutorial about trading units I think he meant gifting as I didn't find any thing in the diplomacy as trade units

any way I want to know does it affect the AI's attitude if u gift them units or it's just some kind of a strategy ?

The Navy Seal
Sep 08, 2006, 07:15 PM
Actually it doesn't, which makes no sence what so ever. well it's hard at first but you'll get the hang of it.:goodjob:

flamingzaroc121
Sep 08, 2006, 08:02 PM
well actualyy, if you gift your units to an AI at war they will use them to attack

wkndwrrr
Sep 08, 2006, 09:49 PM
It is best to gift the AI that you are trying to befriend small bits of gold over long periods of time, support them in their wars, have the same religion as them, and have open borders to each other, but don't actually have touching borders. (so you both have to walk across a third parties land first or a natural barrier like a sea if you want to go into each others land) You should also support the same civics options as them. Eventually you can form a defensive pact, where you pledge to defend each other if one of you is attack, and at last you can form a permanent alliance, where you share your score, technological development, opinions of other nations, and are essentially two different provinces within a single country. Keep in mind that forming permanent alliances and defensive pacts with people will cause other AI's to resent your collective power.

bassist2119
Sep 08, 2006, 09:50 PM
Civ IV is so complicatedTry MOO3 for awhile, then come back to civ4... Ah, simplicity!

MasrTheEgyptian
Sep 09, 2006, 01:31 AM
any way it's still so realistic complicated but realistic I like it :)

Codeman
Sep 09, 2006, 01:37 AM
...forming permanent alliances and defensive pacts...

this is when gifting units can be helpful. if you are at the top of the power chart they do not seem to want a permanent alliances as long as you are at the top. if you are, you can gift to another civ a couple units, just enough to become second in power, then sign the PA. once signed, you can rebuild. it usually only takes a couple units.

MasrTheEgyptian
Sep 09, 2006, 01:51 AM
why don't they sign permanent alliances if u r the most powerful they should ask you for it ?

Codeman
Sep 09, 2006, 01:59 AM
check out this article in the strat section. it explains it really well.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3853417

MasrTheEgyptian
Sep 09, 2006, 02:17 AM
wow codeman that PA thing is so cool ty for the link

Codeman
Sep 09, 2006, 02:20 AM
no problem mars...

cairo140
Sep 09, 2006, 08:33 AM
Civ IV is so complicated I think I will be visiting the quick answers section too often if only sid made a better tutorial !!!!!!!!!
any way sid was talking in the tutorial about trading units I think he meant gifting as I didn't find any thing in the diplomacy as trade units

any way I want to know does it affect the AI's attitude if u gift them units or it's just some kind of a strategy ?
Don't be afraid or intimidated if you cannot completely figure out the game after one go. Part of the wonder that makes Civilization IV a great game is that there are too many quirks and dynamics such that you cannot learn them all... ever. So just play more, complain less, and ask questions, not to mention have fun.

Older than Dirt
Sep 09, 2006, 10:01 AM
Gift is not a verb. Give is a verb. I can hardly wait until we all speak a decent language like Spanish.

MasrTheEgyptian
Sep 09, 2006, 03:39 PM
english is not my tounge any way :D

Mewtarthio
Sep 09, 2006, 05:56 PM
Gift is not a verb. Give is a verb. I can hardly wait until we all speak a decent language like Spanish.

This is the English language we're talking about. You can make up new verbs just by using a noun in the proper manner. "If you'd like to access the scheduling seminar, I can pencil you in if you circle option B."

HectorSpector
Sep 10, 2006, 07:41 AM
Gift is not a verb. Give is a verb. I can hardly wait until we all speak a decent language like Spanish.

Gift can be a noun or a verb, you ignorant spastic.

blaugh
Sep 10, 2006, 08:59 AM
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gift&x=0&y=0

Gift is a verb, as well as a noun.