Frequently Asked Questions....


http://www.civ4.houmie.com/

Here's a few. Copy/Paste them into your first post Houman.

Q: Does this mod work with warlords?
A: Not yet, but the team are working on a patch for it.

Q: What do assasins do?
A: Fortify them in enemy cities, and they destroy culture and cause riots.

Q: Why are there barbarians appearing around my city.
A: You are using slavery, which causes regular slave rebellions.

Q: There is a row of added very small icons in the UI with no mouseover help, what do they do?

When I start a game (custom or use your earth-map) I can change my difficulty, but not any of the AI who always seem stuck on "noble" (I think)... What's going on here? How do I play at harder levels or does my setting dictate the overall difficulty level?

RickAucoin:

A: It is plot list for arranging your troops/armies

12Monkey's Plot List -- Included is a modified version of 12m's Plot list enhancer. This allows you to group your unit icons by unit or by group, arrange them visually on screen, and provides additional information in the infopane. Also, now you can tell at a glance who's fortified, who's healing, who can be upgraded, and who's injured.

read further about it here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=149572

Miserable09:

A: When you change your own difficulty the AI is adjusted accordingly, you cant change the "grey'ed out noble on the ai - not in this mod nor the vanilla version"

So in short: just move your diff up and it gets harder - to spice it up you can choose aggresive ai aswell.

Q: How can i hire mercenaries
A: The hammer button above +/- resarch in top left corner of the screen

Q: Why i cant trade technologies in World Map
A: It is of as default

Q: Why i get bonus to resarch when i open borders
A: ...

Q: Why i have lost a holy city
A: If you dont have a state religion as the holy city is, it looses its holy status after x turns. After some time holy city of that religion will show up in other city of its religion (or back to the one that has lost it, if it was the only one of that religion)

Q: Why i cant spread other religions in my Jewish state cities
A: Judaism is dominant religion, forbiding you to spread or have any other religion than judaism, exept for Judaism Holy City.

Q: There is a row of added very small icons in the UI with no mouseover help, what do they do?

In general these icons are for arranging stacks of units on same tile - try it and im sure you figure out. Otherwise there is a list of funcions of these buttons somewhere in TR folder(I cant remember exact path, but it surely exist:D )

Judaism should spread in Warlords Beta version again.
Please report to us if this doesn't!

It does, dont worry!!

@ Houman

Yes it spread. Maybe too fast, still leaves no "free" civ for Cristianity or Islam.
But dont know for sure if it is still dominant religion.

And i think it is more realistic when religion doesnt spread whith out opened borders. The best for me is to make religion spread only in your country borders, but you must have it as state religion. If you want to spread it outside, you eighther must use missionaries or Holy Shrine.

Judaism is now on 33% much lower than other religions. Are you sure it is spreading fast? Christianity has 75%, Islam 70%. They should spread easily.

Please doublecheck for em, if there are also other religions in the cities where Judaism has spread to. Or ar ethese cities Jewish only? In that case this might be a bug, since Judaism is spreading and destroying everything else (it is dominant, but it is not set as one)

Judaism is spreading rather fast in my current game too. It's tolerable, but seems abnormal for how slow it is supposed to be.

WarKirby

And is there any other religion ever in the cities with Judaism on in or not? Please focus on this and report back to me. Maybe it is a bug in the python files. Otherwise I suggest setting it lower to 25%.

Some cities have more than one religion.

Also, it may actually be due to the fact that Asoka, the founder, is the most powerful civ (by a tiny margin) and is aggressively spreading it.

WarKirby

Judais is not set as dominant in default (i have judaism and buddism by game not WB).
And yes it spreads too fast. Before i have reached Cristianity i europe was zorastrial and hinduistic, mideast hinduistic, russia zoroastiac, and china india and japan Judaist. Than Taoism founded by Shaka grew up in lots of cities, but only shaka remained Taoist. When Cristianity was funded by Cyrus, it had no "free" city to spread in Old World. America had no religion, and Islam was funded by Russia that grew in power.
But neighter Christianity not Islam had their state religion.

Judais is not set as dominant in default (i have judaism and buddism by game not WB).
And yes it spreads too fast. Before i have reached Cristianity i europe was zorastrial and hinduistic, mideast hinduistic, russia zoroastiac, and china india and japan Judaist. Than Taoism founded by Shaka grew up in lots of cities, but only shaka remained Taoist. When Cristianity was funded by Cyrus, it had no "free" city to spread in Old World. America had no religion, and Islam was funded by Russia that grew in power.
But neighter Christianity not Islam had their state religion.


Interesting. But are you sure that these cities had not more than one religion inside? In that case this is ok, since th AI chooses which one should be set to state religion. Especcially those with favorite religion (like Europeans to Christianity) should have changed the statereligion once they have found it.

Please report more about this. maybe We should set Christianity, Islam, Buddhism accordingly higher than they are now. (about 20-25%)

Thanks
Houman

Well on the saves in Bug report. I made Bismark Buddisk (WB), than changed all his cities into christianity + holy city, also erazing buddism. I had to wait over 20 turns for him to convert (5 turns is required betwean revolutions).

But Wang Kon changes religions almost instantly (he had buddism and islam). He was changing right after i used WB, or after waiting that 5 turn "rest" betwean revolutions.

Please check the FAQ on
http://www.houmie.com/civ4/

No answer as to whether this mod works with multiplayer on that site. Every time we try to start a game in mp with this mod both games crash, and we wind up back at the desktop being asked up about sending an error report. Are there any plans to get this mod to work with multiplayer?

No answer as to whether this mod works with multiplayer on that site. Every time we try to start a game in mp with this mod both games crash, and we wind up back at the desktop being asked up about sending an error report. Are there any plans to get this mod to work with multiplayer?

TR is not compatible wit MP - at least Mercenary mod is one of component which cause OOS - we are waiting for new version

Question, why are there so few additional Techs in the Mod? They could certainly make things more realistic. I personally customised Total Realism 2.1.3 with an additional 20 technologies, which allowed for a much smoother transition from Pre Industrial into Space age.

What would addonational techs give ?

new units, building, bonus to imnprovements or such. May lead to imballancing.

"empty" techs are useless, just make one much more expensive.

more tech also might lead to faster resarch via open boarders.

But spliting bonze working to, copper tools, and bronze working. (copper will allow making spearman, bronze will allow axeman and chopping forest)

No empty tech, instead, I split existing tech into 2 or more and redistribute units and buildings over the additional techs.

For exapmle:

SteamEngine->Turbine
Nuclear Reactor(Nuclear Pwer Plant)-> Nuclear Weapons(ICMB)
Flight(WWI)-> Airodynamics(WW2)->Jetengine(WW3)
Rockety(RPG) -> Balistics(Howitzer)
SpaceFlight(Apollo program)->Satelites(Cruise missle)
Electricity->Electronics
Radio(Radio Tower)->Radar(Radar Station)
Computers(Laboratorium)->Networks(AEGIS)
Microschip->Robotics
Rifining -> Combustion -> Automobile

Also diveristy of techs allows for much more specific tech requirements. For exaple Nuclear Reactor require electronics, turbine, refridgeration and fission

umm

Well the 1st thing human kind did after discoverying atomic power/fusion is to create a bomb not power plant. There is a long way betwean atomic bomb and nuclear power plant.

As for automobile, comustion does the trick. instead for automibile there should be mass production (+5% or +10% to military production)

Now off to the tech tree with such ideas.

As far this is FAQ an answear is needed.
Question, why are there so few additional Techs in the Mod?
Becouse TR team didnt make many ? Exept Dualism i didnt notice any new.

http://www.houmie.com/civ4/
dont work :/

http://www.houmie.com/civ4/
dont work :/

ehm....url is changed, we forget to inform
http://www.civ4.houmie.com

Civilpedia/readme doesn't really say anything about how the religion system works in the mod so I wondered if there was any place w/info on it for TR v2.1.3.
I've played 4 or 5 games at least halfway through and observed: 1st 3 religions spread only within nation found even w/missionary, Buddhism spreads like crazy, cristchex spreads decently if you move missionaries. Is this how it's supposed to work?

Other units/buildings that are poorly defined: assassin, informant, inquistor, inquisition

Again any info on any of these subjects would be appreciated. (Civ v1.61 w/TR 2.1.3)

A bit
Judaism is a dominant religion and spreads ONLY inside your borders (cant even send rabbies). And it is a "home" religion (has its own name but forgot).

Dominant religion means it represses any other religions from a city (exept Holy city, as it can have all religions).

Zoroastranism. Also "home" religion, but can spread outside borders. Its spread is almost 0% and its Shrine doesnt bring it much higher.

Hinduism is also "home" religion, but spread faster than Zoroastrianism.

Cristianity... i forgot what Cristianity is in 2.1.3. Think it was meant to be super fast spread.

Buddism. It spreads fast ONLY with Holy shrine.

Islam. Dominant religion and fast spread rate.

Taoism... i dont remember... i think its close to buddism.

Could made some mistakes as religion system is completelly differant in Warlords conventions than in Vanilla Civ IV.
And yes there are bugs in this system...

SOME HELP ?
Some promotions just cant be geined, i wonder what i have to do to get them. Such as Hero, legendary hero, steelwart, berserker, light, heavy. They are in Civopedia, but how to get my units like that ?

they will be removed in 3 minutes
, check out the website its growing

Free market is wong.
It also gives +1 trade rote in all cities.
Or im out of date ? But lasttime i checked game it is.
Village improvement has missing upgrade duration.

And some interesting thing that propabilly not any kind of suprise for you. There is no book by Hakīm Abū-l-Qāsem Firdawsī Ṭūsī in Poland (soend 6 hours searching).
Shahmaneh is not even in polish Wikipedia...

Free market is wong.
It also gives +1 trade rote in all cities.
Or im out of date ? But lasttime i checked game it is.
Village improvement has missing upgrade duration.

And some interesting thing that propabilly not any kind of suprise for you. There is no book by Hakīm Abū-l-Qāsem Firdawsī Ṭūsī in Poland (soend 6 hours searching).
Shahmaneh is not even in polish Wikipedia...

Bugs are fixed. New Units in FAQ and new Fort Promotion as well.

Regarding Shahname. I am not really surprised that its not yet published in Polish. ;) You can find it easily in English. But I remember even in Germany there is no full translation yet done. But as far as I know, a Chinese translation exists. :)

http://www.civ4.houmie.com/archers.htm

far asian are only "chinese" in pre-gold (or FAQ is prepared for gold). Japan and Korea has general ones.

http://www.civ4.houmie.com/spearmen.htm
They have "archers" name on top of page in thar yellow scroll (lol)
Impis are called African (but its ethnic so i think its OK, so i wont report rest)

http://www.civ4.houmie.com/settlers.htm and swordsman.html and scouts.html and workers.html and axemans.html
Also "archers" name in top scroll.

http://www.civ4.houmie.com/archers.htm

far asian are only "chinese" in pre-gold (or FAQ is prepared for gold). Japan and Korea has general ones.

http://www.civ4.houmie.com/spearmen.htm
They have "archers" name on top of page in thar yellow scroll (lol)
Impis are called African (but its ethnic so i think its OK, so i wont report rest)

http://www.civ4.houmie.com/settlers.htm and swordsman.html and scouts.html and workers.html and axemans.html
Also "archers" name in top scroll.

Cool. Stay cool, Anaztazioch. ;)
FAQ is still under construction for Gold. While you are playing pre-gold, we are testing Gold for the next release. We try to remove the last bugs, we build the FAQ, we are also thinking about the next version,....
So yes, some names of units can seem "new". It's only (i hope) their final name.

Hian the Frog.

It's only (i hope) their final name.

Sounds like you are a bit sick of XMLs :D

Viking ship is messed a bit in FAQ.
Ethnic : Viking
Civilization : Drakar

Hey, I just downloaded the latest TR mod from source forge and I have to say I am impressed, almost overwhelmed.

One small note that I have is the lack of overall documentation for all the changes. I know there are a lot for this mod but it almost seems like it needs it's own manual to play. I did find a lot of help at the TR website and that has answered the majority of my questions.
I still have one question. When I have a unit selected there is a new button at the end of the chain that does not have a name or description of its function. It appears to be a hand passing off a rod to another hand and when I click it the unit disappears.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks again for a great mod and all the hard work you've put in it.

Its mercenaries component.
This hand puts selected unit to the mercenary market. From there it can be hired by other civs, giving you money from its contract. You dont pay full maintanance your unit on market (dont know what procent). You can allways call it back, but it takes few turns for it to comeback.

Other described icon i cant think of.

just got TR and just played my first game.Whew!Is all I can say.Well,Awe Inspiring in it's scope also!One question though.Why doesn't the great Wall keep Barbarians out?What's the point in building it otherwise?

Game crash with Bismark.Also,how do I turn the spawn rate down on the barbarians?

These are Slave or peasant revolts thats why the Great Wall cant stop them.
In next release (next week) these units will have a different look, so you will distinguish them straight away.

Regards
Houman

Even in Medieval Era?I wasn't even running the slavery civic.

Even in Medieval Era?I wasn't even running the slavery civic.

but they can run serfdom = peasants revolt :)

What is Total Realism's policy on other mods using their resources? Is it allowed as long as credit is given properly in the readme or do you prefer to keep all of your work exclusive?

-delated, worngly understood question-

What is Total Realism's policy on other mods using their resources? Is it allowed as long as credit is given properly in the readme or do you prefer to keep all of your work exclusive?

if it is our own resources, you can use this with credits etc.. (but please, inform us before you do this) - but remember, that we also have other resources, so you must ask original owner/creator (this is reason why we want be asked before)

What does Shakas 3rd trait, in german called 'Macht', maybe in English 'Might', do?

What does Shakas 3rd trait, in german called 'Macht', maybe in English 'Might', do?

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=5252870&postcount=3

Refer here. The one you need is "Power".

How do the doctrines work? They appear to be wonders that put a building in every city that gives a promotion, but I can't seem to build them when I research the relevant technology, nor do I get the promotions. The fact that they have no hammer cost is also strange...

How do the doctrines work? They appear to be wonders that put a building in every city that gives a promotion, but I can't seem to build them when I research the relevant technology, nor do I get the promotions. The fact that they have no hammer cost is also strange...

doctrines can only be "build" by Great General - it create world wonder, which give free building in every city, which give first free promotion - base for all real doctrine promotions
in start menu, under Total Realism, you can find link to Doctrines faq

Ah, thanks - didn't realise.

Ah, thanks - didn't realise.

This should tell you all you could possibly want to know about traditions and doctrines in TR:

http://www.civ4.houmie.com/Doctrine_Tradition_FAQ.txt

I love the TR mod but I tried the ViSa mod yesterday. There were somethings and some I didn't. I was wondering how difficult it would be to incorporate those into my next edition of TR (whether or not you put them into the released version is up to you).
These include:
MAF Workaround
5-man formations by anhu for Melee units
- Not Just Another Game Clock Mod v0.3.3w by TheLopez
* 3 City Radius Mod by RogerBacon ***ViSa added 2 or 3 radius selection in Custom Game screen
Dawn of Man Mod

The last two are the ones that really interest me. Will I be able to merge them into TR without screwing it up?

I haven't looked at Dawn of Man, but as for city radius, we've had no notion to incorporate it, and I think it will screw up the balance of TR. MAF workaround is interesting stuff, but it is MP-incompatible (and TR supports MP, to an extent). Also, MAF is either gone or greatly reduced in BtS, so it's no longer needed there. 5-man formations are a hog on system resources (it's like having 66% more units in game) - with no real functionality.

TR once had optional component with many man formation (regiments mod i think it was named). It was removed due to performance consuming. (it was TR 1.0 or Realism: The Third Ressurection )

Now that there are already such questions, what about the Revolution mod? IMO, especially the Barbarian Civs component would fit in great to TR. However since you use a civ for barbarians, Im not sure it would work...

Not soon, at any rate. I strongly doubt it that Revolution will make it into the first BtS release, as there are already lots of things to consider (we might even be throwing some original BtS features away or greatly reducing them).

How do I destroy unneeded buildings?

How do I destroy unneeded buildings?

Are there any buildings that you would actually want to destroy? The only ones that come to mind are Mob Justice and certain Pagan Temples. In both cases, you have to come out of civic they're dependent on (Barbarism and Paganism, respectively). That's the only way for getting rid of them, and this is intentional - if you build something with negative side effects, you have to face them.

Barracks.
I'm holding the only two cities of the eastern one of the brittish isles. I'm at war whit half the known world. I got bronze in London, but barracks in both cities. York produces troops too slow, so a barrrack there isn't cost-effective. I need the money it consumes.

In freeciv (linux) it's possible to sell buildings. But just rqzeing it would be great, even if it cost someting.

Barracks.
I'm holding the only two cities of the eastern one of the brittish isles. I'm at war whit half the known world. I got bronze in London, but barracks in both cities. York produces troops too slow, so a barrrack there isn't cost-effective. I need the money it consumes.

In freeciv (linux) it's possible to sell buildings. But just rqzeing it would be great, even if it cost someting.

That would (in TR philosophy) require a whole new layer of AI logics to permit AI players use the feature too. Not the easiest thing to implement - but a thing to consider for sure.

Dunno if this is the correct thread... anyway, here goes. I just got Warlords and dled your awesome mod (played it on civ4 a lot) and patch. But apparently there is a problem. When it's almost done installing, a message pops up:

Extract: error writing to file TK_2.2_WL_Base.fpk.

Some help, please?

Dunno if this is the correct thread... anyway, here goes. I just got Warlords and dled your awesome mod (played it on civ4 a lot) and patch. But apparently there is a problem. When it's almost done installing, a message pops up:

Extract: error writing to file TK_2.2_WL_Base.fpk.

Some help, please?

Yep. Looks like you are low on HD space. Check BOTH the drive you installing to AND the drive on which your Temp folder is located (installer uses temp folder).

Thank you soooo much, I think that's precisely the issue here! Solved :)

Is this another scenerio that I can click on from the main menu? or does this mod completly replace the regular version of civ IV?

Is this another scenerio that I can click on from the main menu? or does this mod completly replace the regular version of civ IV?

You can, theoretically, choose it from the main menu, but for your convenience, our installer creates quick launch shortcuts on your desktop.

I'm downloading the mod right now (for gold), but can't seem to really find an answer to my question: Do I need to download anything else? I see some posts scattered around about dll fixes, but they're mostly old and it's not clear whether anything else still needs to be downloaded if I download the current total realism mod.

There is a new dll that is very recommended to enjoy TR; grab it here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7801519&postcount=976

I went to war with another civ for their copper because of those shortage messages :lol: Thanks

Hey,

back after several weeks without direct acces to internet, cant recommend it to anyone :( . I hear 2.4 is close and that there is an open beta. If so i like to try it. Do i have to download patch files for 2.3? or is there an installer? Thanks

FW

Hey,

back after several weeks without direct acces to internet, cant recommend it to anyone :( . I hear 2.4 is close and that there is an open beta. If so i like to try it. Do i have to download patch files for 2.3? or is there an installer? Thanks

FW

Basically, open beta for 2.4 is the new dll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7801519&postcount=976) that fixes all the crash and resource issues for 2.3. All the content of 2.4 is coming only with its release (or if you get them from our SVN, as always).

Basically, open beta for 2.4 is the new dll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7801519&postcount=976) that fixes all the crash and resource issues for 2.3. All the content of 2.4 is coming only with its release (or if you get them from our SVN, as always).

could you post a link or direct me where to find it? ty

*edit after some more searching i found it.

I actually did post the link in my previous post. :D:D:D

To make it more obvious for anyone else interested, http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7801519&postcount=976

Yes i have the new dll and it works great. Was just curious at what 2.4 with the new content had to offer. To be able to view it i have to copy the assets folder from scourgeforge and thats it?

Yes i have the new dll and it works great. Was just curious at what 2.4 with the new content had to offer. To be able to view it i have to copy the assets folder from scourgeforge and thats it?

Yeah, basically that's it. Anyone with an SVN client and a knowledge of how to use it can do this freely. Our SVN path is:

https://civ4mods.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/civ4mods/trunk/civ4.mod.realism/src/mod/TR_Warlords

Best placed in Warlords/Mods/Realism folder.

hey i registered at sourceforge, but cant find a way to download the file assets file structure in one go.Is there a stand alone application to do just that?

TortoiseSVN helps a lot.

As do you :) Thanks i got it now! Looks great. :cool:

>> can you make civs more like ryhes appearing at historical dates
>> nope, ryhes works because of a world map

Not anymore, check out Rhyes RAND gais =3

Very good mod, and I've played some great ones!

One quick problem:

Playing as the English, I am the only civ to reach the modern age, as of yet. I've just started to build an armored division based upon the Churchill. On the turn change (approximately 635), I saw a large blob moving toward my border in Mongol territory. When the turn change was over, I did an aerial recon over that area, and saw that the Mongols (who are still in the Medieval period) are moving a modern tank battalion towards my territory.

They have no oil, no steel, no aluminum, and have not achieved gunpowder, yet. However, they have this powerful modern unit (combat strength of 48) moving towards my border with them. Is there something that I have missed? My Churchills are only half their strength.

Is this a bug, or is there the possibility that a more "primitive" civ can make a leap in technology, somehow?

Thanks.

Don't really know how that could possibly have happened. Never observed anything like that before.

Don't really know how that could possibly have happened. Never observed anything like that before.

Thanks very much. I still have the save for it, and could email it, if it might help. I love this mod (I was one of the beta-testers for Rome:Total Realism, and I have a special affection for the name).

Yes, of course. It is indeed an interesting case (although currently we are almost at 2.4 with our internal builds).

Yes, of course. It is indeed an interesting case (although currently we are almost at 2.4 with our internal builds).

First, will 2.4 be with BTS, or will it stay with Civ 4 and Warlords?

Second, I decided to run a turn, just to see what happened after saving and exiting the game. When I did the aerial recon on the next turn, the "tank" had turned into a simple old-fashioned armored elephant. It had the same name, and disappeared on the following turn.

I believe that the thing was actually a general, but its icon looked like a Leopard 2, initially.

Fascinating stuff.

So at least this is just a graphical glitch, not a gameplay one. Good to know.

No, we just don't have the resources to convert to BtS. We'll release for Warlords, and that might well be the last TR version.

So at least this is just a graphical glitch, not a gameplay one. Good to know.

No, we just don't have the resources to convert to BtS. We'll release for Warlords, and that might well be the last TR version.

so there won`t be TR for BTS and version 2.4 will be LAST TR version for civilization 4? or you don`t plan to convert version 2.4 to BTS and make another version for BTS?

and one more question - do you work on TR alone now or other old members are still working on it? Haven`t heard about Mexiko, Houmam and the others for some years.

Thanks for working on it. I am looking forward to 2.4 and I hope that I will be able to finish Earth map under win 7 64 bit finaly ;).

Sadly, I must admit that this is the most likely case. The team has all but fallen apart, and aside from me and Yann, there were no regular contributors for at least a year. And since both of us have gotten much busier lately, we just don't have any resources to make a BtS port. There are two of us, and neither knows Python/SDK. Without such people, no BtS port is even remotely possible.

So, we'll release 2.4 and hope that someone likes it enough to port it to BtS. :)

That would be a sad day indeed. I was really looking forward to it. I didnt think it would be a major step to BtS since zappara did it with RoM, but then it would have already been done. Almost tempted to learn Python.. But that would take a huge investment in time.

Having just played my first game of Total Realism, I feel strongly compelled to express my positive reaction to this extraordinary mod. TR is amazing, and its clear that the developers expended significant time and energy into ensuring balanced, sophisticated, and entertaining gameplay. Good job, guys! And on behalf of a grateful CIV IV community, thanks!

Thank you very much. And BTW, to make this thread look less grim after my last post here, I would like to mention that BtS conversion is well underway, we're alive and kicking!

Look, i don't know if that's a TR bug, but i'm having troubles with healing air units: when they get damaged and i leave them to heal for a turn, they dissapear! And the hint over heal button shows very big number: something like maximum value of signed long integer type... Help if u can, please =)
P.S.
Nice to hear that BtS conversion if planned, how's the progress going?

It is progressing, slowly. As for air units, I don't really know what causes this - never ran into it myself. Are you running the latest version?

2.4.1. Well, that may be a bug of smth else... Anyway, thanks)

Well, yes, sorry that I cannot offer you any help on that matter; debugging Warlords version is close to pointless now - almost no bugs (if it is indeed our bug) will be carried over to BtS, and we don't plan any more Warlords releases.

Is there any file/post that lists everything that has been added to the game?

No, there's not. You can read SVN changelog if you are so inclined, but it literally lists thousands of changes (over 3000 at the moment).

:goodjob: Might be surprising to you, but there's still new folks discovering the TR Mod for Warlords. After the scathing reviews for Civ V, I elected to forgo buying that and instead bought Civ IV (Gold Ed) for cheap, then downloaded your last available TR Mod. What a great game! You guys put so much effort into that - thanks for creating a true 'public good'. I really enjoy being able to play this.
(P.S. I installed this on a Pentium D computer w/ 4GB RAM, but still an XP 32-bit OS, so I initially ran into the annoying MAF crashes. But I found that helpful series of posts explaining how to change the bios w/ the 3GB switch, and since then it's been blissful playing on the biggest possible maps in the highest graphics resolution.)
A cheers to the team.

As long as you're running a 32-bit OS, you will run into MAFs. The measures offered just serve to postpone them until later in game. Also, stay tuned, we will release for BtS quite soon! :)

As long as you're running a 32-bit OS, you will run into MAFs. The measures offered just serve to postpone them until later in game. Also, stay tuned, we will release for BtS quite soon! :)

Before Christmas? :D

Before Christmas? :D

No comment. :p

As long as you're running a 32-bit OS, you will run into MAFs. The measures offered just serve to postpone them until later in game. Also, stay tuned, we will release for BtS quite soon! :)

Have had no issue. Eeked out a time victory at epic speed and crashed once, but that was likely the videocard fault. So no MAFs for me. Maybe because the processor is dual core 64 bit and supports 4GB RAM at 800MHz; it's only my OS that's 32 bit - and that's because I didn't want to make MS any richer and installed an old XP Pro copy I had flying around. So, Warlords TR on biggest map at highest resolution was quite a joy on my equipment once I had that 3GB switch in.

Did buy BtS now (currently just $9.99 on DirectToDrive), but have no intention on installing it. Not until you make good on publishing that TR mod for BtS - and I hope you meant it when you said it'd be soon. After being spoiled by Warlords TR, I just know it'd be a huge let-down giving the unmodded BtS a try. Just having to settle for that plain vanilla, bland old map would make me regret it. Quick question in that regard: I wanted to mix it up in my second game a couple days ago and selected "cold/arctic/whatever it's called" as the climate, but still found the map to have lots of jungle and bananas. And my Nordic Settler always spawned right next to a Citrus Plantation. Yeah. Not what I had in mind for a cold setting. Is the TR mod map limited to the normal setting because of its preset resource mix and/or its cool (but maybe inflexible) map design?

You may want to experiment with different map scripts. While some - for some unknown reason - don't function properly, many others produce quite satisfying results. I think there are some scripts there that even assign flavor starting points based on the civ - so that Vikings will not start in jungle, for instance.

And yeah, a BtS release will be out really soon. Quite possibly "this week" soon. ;)

And yeah, a BtS release will be out really soon. Quite possibly "this week" soon. ;)

Awesome! You guys deserve some sort of civics price, for unselfishly putting up all this work for the rest of us to delect ourselves on this TR goodie. Great news! Happy Holidays to the team.

... and that'll include Realism Invictus (one can hope). :)
Had banked on maybe getting it between the years, but it's ready when it's ready. Had some free time, so since RI isn't available yet, spent it on some of other older BtS mods; RevolutionDCM, for one. That one just wants to annoy you. Rhye's is interesting, but really a totally scripted affair. So, I realized I already found my niche with TR 2.4 for Warlords. Your mod was just the best, and same will hold true for the BtS version. I will wait it out until you guys release, then play one of yours thru to the end, and then I'll have had my Civ fix for good, I think. So, thanks for putting RI together (too bad there wasn't enough time for you to look at corporations more closely and somehow incorporate them - I think that aspect is more promising and fun than the whole spying thing that Shafer contributed to Civ IV BtS (before he mucked up Civ V)). RI will be the best, most playable, and most challenging (in a non-annoying way) mod out there, and your effort is appreciated.

And yeah, a BtS release will be out really soon. Quite possibly "this week" soon. ;)

So... when this release will be?

So... when this release will be?

In the future. Definitely in the future.

Loool
Don't even post till your answer to the same question will be:
In the past. Definitely in the past.
;)

I got worried... the release had been surprisingly and suddenly announced before Xmas, manual had been published and then silence and again this "in future" or "it's done when it's done" thing.

Something went wrong? Any not anticipated new bugs?
I saw even the "houmie" forum is quite dead recently...

Yep, admittedly there is a number of issues we want to set straight before release.

For everyone interested:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=16571

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=16572