I was wondering what most people are using - 1.16f or 1.17f? I'd like to use 1.16f, but since I plays several SGs, I must use 1.17f. I was curious whether or not we could establish a kind of 'default' patch - one that all of us would use unless otherwise noted?

I'd like to use 1.16f, mainly because the new editor is slow as crap (on my comp)

In an unrelated matter, is it possible to get just the 1.17f patch, but NOT the new editor?

I was curious whether or not we could establish a kind of 'default' patch

The current patch is the default patch -- whatever is current! I think you're in for a major uphill haul to get players en masse to go back to 1.16f. I certainly wouldn't. I have issues with 1.17, but it's moving the right direction, overall. Why would you want you to stay in the land of endless exploits? Poprush galore, size 6, bombard bug, just to name a few. And most urgently, the AI got some MAJOR upgrades in 1.17 and now plays smarter. Still a way to go, but they are working on it.

Down with 1.16. It's obsolete for a host of reasons. Whatever problems you have with 1.17, list em where somebody at Firaxis will at least get a look at em, then move on.


- Sirian