I think elves should get this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvLlU1sRnv8&mode=related&search=

It's only right
-Qes

And this belongs to Recon units:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I88HGR1b2vo&mode=related&search=

-Qes

EDIT: IT's not green screen technology, consider that while watching.

umm this may sound n00b'd out. but is that trophy thing real? o.o:blush:

umm this may sound n00b'd out. but is that trophy thing real? o.o:blush:

Yeah. It is.

Its still in development, but its nearing the end stages of development, which is why this promotional video is out. It's designed to get the military to salivate (kinda like ffh teasers) and place orders for it. Marketing marketing marketing.

Still, I'm equal parts surprized its real (holy crap were in the future!) and miffed (It took us to 2006 to get this? Where's my flying car damnit?, and were supposed to have colonies on mars by now!)
-Qes

EDIT: Bare in mind, its only anti- propelled balistic missle. It can take out RPGs, Tow, Missles and the like, but bullets, and Tank Rounds wouldn't be stopped. Also, cant stop IED's and Land Mines

I know what I'm going to ask Santa for this Christmas.

P.S. 1000, woohoo!

I know what I'm going to ask Santa for this Christmas.

P.S. 1000, woohoo!

Lol which one?
-Qes

Both. The lord of the north pole has deep pockets.

is it an actual forcefeild, or is it a sort of "star wars program" thing that shoots the missile out of the air?

Looks to me like it shoots incoming missiles out of the air, probably with a projectile of its own. We have stuff that does that right now, but only on a much larger scale.

Looks to me like it shoots incoming missiles out of the air, probably with a projectile of its own. We have stuff that does that right now, but only on a much larger scale.
missle defense systems
for america?(military bases?)
and not with the same reliablity....

Keep in mind that that's essentially a commercial, and whatever fine print that the lawyers require wouldn't be included there. Who knows what flaws it has?

It also would never reaveal the "counter" part of the system, as that IS what makes it so effective and lucerative.

In the commercial (and fox special report) they note that its a secret. It strikes me as most likely a directed energy weapon (yes a laser). Because that would be the only thing fast enough to counter a projectile in the amount of time necessary.

Radar to information, to desicion, to relay to Trophy-system, to analysis of threat, to projected velocity, to aiming of "device" to fireing/counter implmenetation, would all have to be done within the span of time that the threat projectile entered its radius, to the time of projectile destruction at a safe distance. Adding the mechanics of fireing opposing projectiles, strikes me as too slow for this sort of thing, where as a directed energy weapon can merely be turned on, and balistics wouldnt have to be taken into account.

It also mentions that there are "two" methods of countering the target projectile, one is detonation, the other is disablement. Disablement seems to just turn the explosive projectile into a non-threatening non-explosive dud. The latter seems to function like anti-bomb squads blowing up a device before it can blow ITSELF up. Both could potentially use directed energy, but it might be that one version is directed energy and the other is a anti-balistics balistic countermessure.
-Qes

I doubt they use a laser. Lasers have 2 significant disadvantages:
1) They're weak, and I'm not sure putting lasers powerful enough to destroy the warhead in a split-second on a tank is feasible.
2) They're useless against projectiles without warheads. You need an actual counter projectile to deflect those. I'll admit that even then, you'd need a pretty fast or large projectile to deflect those tho.

Does this thread really need to be here? *sigh*

Knocking the offending missile out of the air seems simple enough, but how do you suppose they would disable one that is flying toward the forcefield system? Seems like it would be a complex job, but I guess this forcefield system is a complex device.

Does this thread really need to be here? *sigh*

I just wanted to share what i found with the community, thought people here'd get a kick out of it, nothing more.
-Qes

Knocking the offending missile out of the air seems simple enough, but how do you suppose they would disable one that is flying toward the forcefield system? Seems like it would be a complex job, but I guess this forcefield system is a complex device.

I suspect its "just" a low-range high-heat flash/laser device. Sort of "Flashcook" the incoming projectile. Though, it strikes me that power output for such a device would be extreamly high.

It could also be something smaller and projectile based, but im not sure how "accurate" a projectile could be, or how fast. It's all very intersting.
-Qes

Please don't start threads unrelated to FfH (and yes this is unrelated even with the ljosalfar reference).

Cool but yes unrelated. I also don't think they are using laser. Needs too much energy. Probably some high speed bullet.

Directed energy does not necessarily have to be laser. Sound, microwaves or some other form of wave energy, perhaps. Chaff, maybe?

Please don't start threads unrelated to FfH (and yes this is unrelated even with the ljosalfar reference).

Retort: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=183598
People seemed to enjoy that one. <Shrug> Ill resist sharing the "Coolness" I guess.
-Qes

Retort: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=183598
People seemed to enjoy that one. <Shrug> Ill resist sharing the "Coolness" I guess.
-Qes

Well to defend myself since I started that thread; I DO want the elven archers to be like that :p

I believe the tech is based on reactive armour. Think of a tank covered in "scales" of claymore type mines. When the radar system detects an incomming missile it triggers the right "scale" to create an outgoing explosion that will intercept the missile. Not something you want to be riding on when the missiles start flying.

Pel

Maybe Lazers but just as likely a sonic defensce shield......sonic tools have been blooming the last 15 years by leaps and bounds with tools that have proven superior to any other in the Hight Tech Industrial field and very interesting findings about frequency.....the best bending tools are sonic from making springs to pipe to Big Irion building.......90 degree or spiral...No problem.....and the advantage of Sonic instead of Lazer is that sand and dust wouldn't disperse it anywhere near as easily which has been a problem for lazers but who knows a complimentary array of both would be an expensive yet impresive acheavement but would require a dual array system because light and sound have many dissimilarities yet the discoveries about the use of sonic technology gets far less news coverage than lazer technology gets the break throughs are just as impressive if not more so..

Maybe Lazers but just as likely a sonic defensce shield......sonic tools have been blooming the last 15 years by leaps and bounds with tools that have proven superior to any other in the Hight Tech Industrial field and very interesting findings about frequency.....the best bending tools are sonic from making springs to pipe to Big Irion building.......90 degree or spiral...No problem.....and the advantage of Sonic instead of Lazer is that sand and dust wouldn't disperse it anywhere near as easily which has been a problem for lazers but who knows a complimentary array of both would be an expensive yet impresive acheavement but would require a dual array system because light and sound have many dissimilarities yet the discoveries about the use of sonic technology gets far less news coverage than lazer technology gets the break throughs are just as impressive if not more so..

Heya Mr Frenzy, havent heard from you in a while. I was just wondering a few days ago what happened to you. Good to see you back.

Maybe Lazers but just as likely a sonic defensce shield......sonic tools have been blooming the last 15 years by leaps and bounds with tools that have proven superior to any other in the Hight Tech Industrial field and very interesting findings about frequency.....the best bending tools are sonic from making springs to pipe to Big Irion building.......90 degree or spiral...No problem.....and the advantage of Sonic instead of Lazer is that sand and dust wouldn't disperse it anywhere near as easily which has been a problem for lazers but who knows a complimentary array of both would be an expensive yet impresive acheavement but would require a dual array system because light and sound have many dissimilarities yet the discoveries about the use of sonic technology gets far less news coverage than lazer technology gets the break throughs are just as impressive if not more so..

Makes a lot of sense. Glad to see you back man. Hadn't thought about sonics, prolly right.

@Kael
Whats this? What's this talking on my crap thread? HMPH! *Particularly premodonnaesque storm off*
-Qes

EDIT: Think "Flaming storm off" - hard to imply through posts on threads.

Makes a lot of sense. Glad to see you back man. Hadn't thought about sonics, prolly right.

@Kael
Whats this? What's this talking on my crap thread? HMPH! *Particularly premodonnaesque storm off*
-Qes

EDIT: Think "Flaming storm off" - hard to imply through posts on threads.

oops *hide*

Don't worry about his tantrums. When he starts throwing crockery I just activate my portable Trophy® force-shield and wait for him to calm down.

Don't worry about his tantrums. When he starts throwing crockery I just activate my portable Trophy® force-shield and wait for him to calm down.

Bah! Trophy is only useable against certain attacks. Flaming storm off isnt one of them.
-Qes

Isn't flaming storm-off technically a retreat?

Isn't flaming storm-off technically a retreat?

It's Geurilla tactics. It comes at the end of the withdraw line yes, but it also requires the Drill Promotions.
-Qes

Hardware difficulties that are gonna be fixed soon.....New RAM soon hopefully a new video card too.....and a PCI TV Tuner too......makes it hard to play my favorite game without some of these........This One....so the depression and the fact that I couldn't comprehend without trying first hand had me viewing yet sinking.......It will be handled soon maybe 40 days....but it seems like an eternity in hell......I will be ready though. HI ALL ....I will do my best not to let it happen again...(backup hardware...hmmm)

Looks like the US army, at least, will not be using Trophy.

http://www.defense-update.com/products/t/trophy.htm

September 2006: The US Army opted to pursue a different system. Earlier in 2006, Raytheon received a development contract to demonstrate and develop the Quick Kill APS, to be integrated into the future FCS systems. The Army faced mounting criticism about not considering the Trophy system for the protection of its armored vehicles deployed in Iraq. Maj. Gen. Jeffrey A, Sorenson, the Army’s deputy for acquisition and systems management explained the decision (AFPS) saying the Israeli system is not a “produceable item.” The Israelis have been working on the Trophy system for 10 or 11 years, Sorenson said. “If this thing was ready to go, my question would be, why wasn’t it on the particular tanks that went into Lebanon?” he said. No Israeli Merkava tanks carried the Trophy system, he said.

Other problems include the fact that the system right now has no reloading capability. Once it fires, that side of the vehicle is vulnerable. Which brings up another shortcoming: the Trophy can only be mounted to protect one axis. This means officials would have to mount multiple missile systems on every vehicle. The Quick Kill missile has 360-degree capability and a reload capability.

Another worry is collateral damage, he said. “In a tight urban area, the Trophy system may take out the RPG, but we may kill 20 people in the process,” Sorenson said. “That is a concern we have that we haven’t fully evaluated.”

What the hell, it appears that Trophy does indeed have all those things that the US said it didnt have. Somethings off. Either the preported abilities of trophy arnt (very possible) or the US doesnt want forigen-made defenses (also very possible).
-Qes

Electromagnetic Fields are also on the rise also some of the CIWIS methods could be used for such deffenses......and because they are not saying how this "Force Field" works it could just be a catch phrase for marketing...the field may or may not be the defense and may be the data gathering end of the defense........No one is being specific enough for us to really find out....either way....Electomagnetic, lazer, Sonic,....whatever...it seems cool......Hope it works.

Now that I read more up on it, it seems to be anti-balistic balistics.
So, no directed energy weapon (though i'd have believed it). Still, very impressive, considering whatever the "payload" is, is very very fast for its effectiveness. Some sort of flachette system im sure, but not like a railgun. Still, it makes one wonder, what could be that accurate, at that speed, and have just enough force to neutralize something? Curiouser and curiouser.
-Qes

Imps. They've been talking to Kael, and he agreed to lend them some.

This clearly is the thread that would not die. Is it possible to give a thread the "Undead" promotion? ZOMBIE THREAD!

You think it's long since buried, until it stumbles back into the main page and eats the brains of the living.

@wilboman - I asked Kael for a crate of Imps last week and he said he couldnt becuase of "national Security" is this what he was talking about?
-Qes

And this belongs to Recon units:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I88HGR1b2vo&mode=related&search=

-Qes

EDIT: IT's not green screen technology, consider that while watching.

No, that wasn't computer edited. It is however an active stealth system.
Basically, the suit reflects projected images, even in daylight. And they had projectors set up to project the image of the wall onto the suit.
And even with only a flat background to take into account, he was still pretty visible. It doesn't while mobile, or when there's a larger range of visibility. Also, it has some hefty power requirements.

Everything has to start somewhere... I'll bet that people seeing the Wright brothers' first plane would have said that it's useless for warfare, too.