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thomas.berubeg
Sep 25, 2006, 02:21 PM
As you may all know, There are five basic levels of spirits, in order of increasing power: imps, foliots, djinn, afrits and marids. There also exists a variety of subclasses in each level. Above these levels exist more powerful entities, who are only occasionally summoned.


Would it be possible to have many different levels of djinni summoning. (you might specialize your conjurer to summon only djinn, keeping the higher level djinn around for more than one turn alone.

Bartimaus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartimaeus_Trilogy)
Djinn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djinn)

Civkid1991
Sep 25, 2006, 02:43 PM
Bartimmaus... that was a great book :goodjob:

thomas.berubeg
Sep 25, 2006, 02:47 PM
Bartimmaus... that was a great book :goodjob:
Amazing books

Civkid1991
Sep 25, 2006, 03:04 PM
I think it would be pretty cool to have Djinn (genies) and thier sister/brother demons... one think though that i thought was wierd was placing the djinn in the water sphere of magic. Maybe it should be in a diffrent sphere...:hmm:

thomas.berubeg
Sep 25, 2006, 03:05 PM
New sphere completely (summoning sphere?) new class of units to summon them too?

AlazkanAssassin
Sep 25, 2006, 03:06 PM
djin are supposed to be in the metamagic sphere.
as that sphere isn't in yet, and water needed another summon, the djin was temporaraly switched over.

thomas.berubeg
Sep 25, 2006, 03:09 PM
what about a sea serpent for water?

Sureshot
Sep 25, 2006, 03:10 PM
kael said theres going to be a sea serpent barbarian unit eventually

Silverkiss
Sep 25, 2006, 03:18 PM
Yuhulll bring me sea monsters and ill be happy !

Also it will add to the mistery of the seas... And make explorin a tiny little bit harder ! (Unles Kael puts the sea serpent at str 15 or something lol, then it will be a LOT harder lol)

Civkid1991
Sep 25, 2006, 03:22 PM
if they are going to have a summon for water then they should have Marid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marid). They are the water djinn :)

In sorcery books djinn are classified into four races after the classical elements, where they live: Earth, Air, Fire and Water. As common in the occult, accounts differ, but marids are often described as the most powerful type of djinn, having especially great powers over water. They are the most arrogant and proud as well. Female or male, their skin is deep blue or green, and their hair always looks wet and wavy, as though underwater. They are sometimes referred to as "blue djinn". Like every djinn, they have free will yet could be compelled to perform chores. They also have the ability to grant wishes to mortals, but that usually requires battle, and according to some sources imprisonment, ritu

Kael
Sep 25, 2006, 04:50 PM
Yeap, sea serpent is in the docs, just wating for a model. Djinn is supposed to be a metamagic sphere summon but I borrowed it while we wait for the real water 2 summon (besides the model is to cool to leave out).

At this point Im not to interested in adding more summons, Im more focused on detailing and completing the ones we do have. Its pretty easy to design fast but art takes a lot longer (even with the art team turning out awesome new units every week).

Maniac
Sep 25, 2006, 05:20 PM
Yeap, sea serpent is in the docs, just wating for a model.

In the meanwhile, how about some normal barbarian ships spawning in the sea?

thomas.berubeg
Sep 25, 2006, 05:39 PM
How does one go about creating new unit art?

Civkid1991
Sep 25, 2006, 06:47 PM
I was thinking it would be cool to have demons have names like in bartamaus... so im thinking of wiping up something for it within the next day or 2 (depending on when i get the time). It would be cool to summon a djinn and the realize "hey i just summoned bartamaus... i remember 10 turns back when i used him to slay a hord of orc... good times, good times" :)

Sureshot
Sep 25, 2006, 06:51 PM
ya, continuity across summons could be fun.. would be funny to see your enemy summon a summon you leveled up and use it against you lol

Sureshot
Sep 25, 2006, 06:55 PM
How does one go about creating new unit art?
my understanding is theres two parts to that. one, making the model and its animations, which seems difficult, but theres tutorials on it, and a free modelling program called Blender which ive used to some good effect, though ive no skill in such. and the second is just editing the dds skins for existing ones, to make more superficial changes (usually just requires a dds converter and a photoshop or image editing program)

that reminds me, does anyone know any free downloadable photoshop programs?

Civkid1991
Sep 25, 2006, 07:05 PM
Blender is cool but i think its a bit to complex for beginners... it would be better to use gmax. After using blender for a few days i ended up with "too-many-button-syndrom" (there are a lot of buttons and stuff and its just too much). If you are going to make a simple building or unit then i think it would be best to go with gmax.

thomas.berubeg
Sep 25, 2006, 07:20 PM
Do you have any links to any tutorials/downloads (eg Blender)?

Civkid1991
Sep 25, 2006, 07:24 PM
Well this is a good tutorial (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro) for beginners... it should have the link

Endovior
Sep 26, 2006, 06:40 PM
In the meanwhile, how about some normal barbarian ships spawning in the sea?

There ARE normal barbarian ships spawning in the sea. A small fleet of them stranded one of my water-walking mages on an island the size of my fist about a week ago, and I needed to dispatch my armada halfway around the world to rescue him.

Civkid1991
Sep 26, 2006, 06:53 PM
There ARE normal barbarian ships spawning in the sea. A small fleet of them stranded one of my water-walking mages on an island the size of my fist about a week ago, and I needed to dispatch my armada halfway around the world to rescue him.

Well those are normal barb ships (no fun there). I think what he was saying barb ships that represent the seaserpents (like maybe a large ship with the title "Sea Serpent"... untill the art comes in).

Maniac
Sep 26, 2006, 07:26 PM
There ARE normal barbarian ships spawning in the sea. A small fleet of them stranded one of my water-walking mages on an island the size of my fist about a week ago, and I needed to dispatch my armada halfway around the world to rescue him.

I never get any, despite playing with raging barbarians. :confused:

Civkid1991
Sep 27, 2006, 06:29 PM
ok with gerikes help i got this:


if (unitType == 'UNIT_DJINN'):
iHigh = gc.getUnitInfo(eUnitType).getNumUnitNames()
iRand = randint(0, iHigh)
newUnit.setName(gc.getUnitInfo(eUnitType).getUnitN ame(iRand)

but im not sure how to define eUnitTypes... what function is it?

oh, btw this is an add to the spellSummon function in FFHSpells.

Civkid1991
Sep 28, 2006, 03:10 PM
@Keal... do you think you know the answer to my question above?

thomas.berubeg
Oct 24, 2006, 06:38 PM
i really think we should reawaken this thread.

Anyway, when are the djinn getting thier own sphere, Shadow phase? i could easily
Ascobol
A djinni who served Nathaniel during the events of the demon revolt. He was killed by Faquarl in the Ambassador hotel in an attempt to follow Hopkins who's body was inhabited by Faquarl at the time. He normally takes on the form of a cylops when on earth.


Baztuk
An Utukku (subclass of djinn) who during the events of book one was a sentry in the Tower of London. He was going to kill Bartimaeus because Bartimaeus killed most of his people in the Battle of Al-Arish but he never got the chance because he was killed by Faquarl.


Cormocodran
A third level Djinn in service to Nathaniel during the events of book three. He was killed by Faquarl during the event at the ambassador hotel. He normally takes on the form of a man-boar.


Faquarl
A very powerful Djinn who was in service to Simon Lovelace during book one. He and Bartimaeus were enemies for a long time before the trilogy. For reasons unknown to Bartimaeus, Farqual took on a semblance of a cook repeatedly in the Amulet of Samarkand. He is known for being slightly more powerful than Bartimaeus. He is finally killed in the third book by Bartimaeus (who was inhabiting Nathaniels body at the time).


Hodge
A djinni in service to Nathaniel during the events of book three. Was killed by Faquarl during the events at the Ambassador Hotel. He favored the the form of a large Pangolin.


Honorius
A very powerful Afrit who guarded Gladstones treasure within Gladstones skeleton. He went insane after one hundred years of confinement and ran amok in London wreaking havoc.


Jabor
A powerful djinn normally partnered with Faquarl. He is not known for his intelligence. He was killed by Ramuthra in the events of book one. Favored the form of a jackal-headed man.


Mwamba
A djinn who served Nathaniel during book three. Was killed by Faquarl in the events of book three. She favored the form of an anthropomorphic lizard wearing knee-high boots.


Naeyran
A powerful afrit who aided Nouda in the demon revolt


Nemaides
A demon in service to Julius Tallow who inflicted the Black Tumbler upon Kitty Jones and Jakob Hyrnek causing all of Kitty's anguish towards magicians.


Ramuthra
One of the most powerful demons in existence. It was the demon that Simon Lovelace used in his rebellion. It turned on him and ended up killing him. Nathaniel then dismissed it back to the sacred realm using Lovelace's summoning horn.

Shubit
A djinni constantly in service to Jessica Whitwell. Prefers the guise of a bear.

Simpkin
A foliot in service to Sholto Pinn. Get's into a battle with Bartimaeus in book one and is responsible for his capture. We see a single chapter from his point of view. This is the chapter in which he is killed by the Golem.


Xerxes
An utukku working as a sentry in the tower of London. Was killed by Faquarl in book one.

there a short list of Djinn names already.

Civkid1991
Oct 24, 2006, 07:05 PM
so are you asking for a random djinn-name mod?

thomas.berubeg
Oct 24, 2006, 07:08 PM
Would be interesting: i would do it myself, but i have no time. school and the arda mod are taking up all the time i have.

Civkid1991
Oct 24, 2006, 07:19 PM
here try this (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=187162&highlight=great+people+name) link... gerikes was helping me with it but i never came to actually typing it up and producing it... so take a look and see if you can do it.

Civkid1991
Nov 10, 2006, 12:09 PM
Could someone provide me with a few names for djinn/demons and a list of names?

Ty

thomas.berubeg
Nov 12, 2006, 11:22 AM
That appears to be the most complete list i can find. (the one above.)

Civkid1991
Nov 12, 2006, 06:59 PM
That appears to be the most complete list i can find. (the one above.)

Those seem to be types or levels of djinn... what i was talking about is specific names like... Bartamaus of Alexandria or something like that.

thomas.berubeg
Nov 14, 2006, 07:38 PM
Ascobol
A djinni who served Nathaniel during the events of the demon revolt. He was killed by Faquarl in the Ambassador hotel in an attempt to follow Hopkins who's body was inhabited by Faquarl at the time. He normally takes on the form of a cylops when on earth.


Baztuk
An Utukku (subclass of djinn) who during the events of book one was a sentry in the Tower of London. He was going to kill Bartimaeus because Bartimaeus killed most of his people in the Battle of Al-Arish but he never got the chance because he was killed by Faquarl.


Cormocodran
A third level Djinn in service to Nathaniel during the events of book three. He was killed by Faquarl during the event at the ambassador hotel. He normally takes on the form of a man-boar.


Faquarl
A very powerful Djinn who was in service to Simon Lovelace during book one. He and Bartimaeus were enemies for a long time before the trilogy. For reasons unknown to Bartimaeus, Farqual took on a semblance of a cook repeatedly in the Amulet of Samarkand. He is known for being slightly more powerful than Bartimaeus. He is finally killed in the third book by Bartimaeus (who was inhabiting Nathaniels body at the time).


Hodge
A djinni in service to Nathaniel during the events of book three. Was killed by Faquarl during the events at the Ambassador Hotel. He favored the the form of a large Pangolin.


Honorius
A very powerful Afrit who guarded Gladstones treasure within Gladstones skeleton. He went insane after one hundred years of confinement and ran amok in London wreaking havoc.


Jabor
A powerful djinn normally partnered with Faquarl. He is not known for his intelligence. He was killed by Ramuthra in the events of book one. Favored the form of a jackal-headed man.


Mwamba
A djinn who served Nathaniel during book three. Was killed by Faquarl in the events of book three. She favored the form of an anthropomorphic lizard wearing knee-high boots.


Naeyran
A powerful afrit who aided Nouda in the demon revolt


Nemaides
A demon in service to Julius Tallow who inflicted the Black Tumbler upon Kitty Jones and Jakob Hyrnek causing all of Kitty's anguish towards magicians.


Ramuthra
One of the most powerful demons in existence. It was the demon that Simon Lovelace used in his rebellion. It turned on him and ended up killing him. Nathaniel then dismissed it back to the sacred realm using Lovelace's summoning horn.

Shubit
A djinni constantly in service to Jessica Whitwell. Prefers the guise of a bear.

Simpkin
A foliot in service to Sholto Pinn. Get's into a battle with Bartimaeus in book one and is responsible for his capture. We see a single chapter from his point of view. This is the chapter in which he is killed by the Golem.


Xerxes
An utukku working as a sentry in the tower of London. Was killed by Faquarl in book one.
this? these are names, not ranks...

Civkid1991
Nov 14, 2006, 07:44 PM
ok well ill add them and then post the update in the minimod thread