View Full Version : Noob Question: Changing Map Size


VinceV
Sep 28, 2006, 10:44 AM
I've searched and scanned the forum for a while, but I haven't found the answer to what is perhaps an obvious question: How do I change the size of a pre-made map? There are a few maps which are a little too big and I just want to trim them down a bit. Can that be done in the basic editor or do I need some extra modding tool?

Thanks....

Vince

Macmatt
Sep 28, 2006, 02:32 PM
If you open up the map file, probably located in program files/firaxis/civilization 4/publicmaps, and scroll down you should find this:

BeginMap
grid width=100
grid height=73
top latitude=0
bottom latitude=0
wrap X=0
wrap Y=0
world size=WORLDSIZE_HUGE
climate=CLIMATE_TEMPERATE
sealevel=SEALEVEL_MEDIUM
num plots written=7300
EndMap

If you change these values, you should accomplish what you want. However, I haven't tested it so don't know what happens.

Hope this helps.

ohcrapitsnico
Sep 28, 2006, 04:29 PM
If you open up the map file, probably located in program files/firaxis/civilization 4/publicmaps, and scroll down you should find this:

BeginMap
grid width=100
grid height=73
top latitude=0
bottom latitude=0
wrap X=0
wrap Y=0
world size=WORLDSIZE_HUGE
climate=CLIMATE_TEMPERATE
sealevel=SEALEVEL_MEDIUM
num plots written=7300
EndMap

If you change these values, you should accomplish what you want. However, I haven't tested it so don't know what happens.

Hope this helps.

Actually just changing those values won't do anything, you need to go through all of the map tags and put in entries for each tile. A tedious, long, and error prone job that in the long run doesn't work very well. It can be done this way but its hard. I recommend using the bmp to wbs program that changes bmp(paint) files into wbs files. I believe that can be found in the utility programs subforum. There are several others but i believe bmp to wbs is the easiest.

strategyonly
Sep 29, 2006, 07:54 AM
If its one of my maps that i made, i will change it for you, just tell me which one you want and how big etc? I will try ok, no guarantees.

VinceV
Sep 29, 2006, 09:15 AM
Okay, thanks all for the replies and help, I'll try that converter, but my modding experience is limited to Europa Universalis 2.

S.O. thanks for the offer, but it was actually the U.K. and Ireland map made by Vadus(?) that I wanted to make a little smaller. It's 100 by 100, and I just wanted to take off a little bit of European section in the bottom and right, maybe make it 80 by 80 and also a little faster for my computer to run. Ideally it would have 3 nations in England/Wales, 1 in Scotland, two in Ireland, and 2 in France/Belgium. I don't know if that's easy for you to just grab and resize for me, but I can also try to do it myself.

strategyonly
Sep 30, 2006, 11:45 AM
Okay, thanks all for the replies and help, I'll try that converter, but my modding experience is limited to Europa Universalis 2.

S.O. thanks for the offer, but it was actually the U.K. and Ireland map made by Vadus(?) that I wanted to make a little smaller. It's 100 by 100, and I just wanted to take off a little bit of European section in the bottom and right, maybe make it 80 by 80 and also a little faster for my computer to run. Ideally it would have 3 nations in England/Wales, 1 in Scotland, two in Ireland, and 2 in France/Belgium. I don't know if that's easy for you to just grab and resize for me, but I can also try to do it myself.


If i had the height/terrain/feature/bonus/improvements maps, no problem, might take about three minutes then. But otherwise dont know how to resize, sorry.:blush:

VinceV
Sep 30, 2006, 12:25 PM
Okay, thanks, anyway, maybe the original author is able to if it is quick. I tried that converter, but it seems you need a whole lot of python files as well. It's surprising that the Civ 4 editor that comes with the game is so limited; I just get the impression that a lot of the modding tools were designed by independent authors.

strategyonly
Sep 30, 2006, 12:58 PM
Okay, thanks, anyway, maybe the original author is able to if it is quick. I tried that converter, but it seems you need a whole lot of python files as well. It's surprising that the Civ 4 editor that comes with the game is so limited; I just get the impression that a lot of the modding tools were designed by independent authors.

AHHH come-on only about 95%, are :lol:

btw, i cant find any map made by a person by the name of Vadus?

VinceV
Sep 30, 2006, 02:44 PM
Page 4 of the Pre-made Maps Forum, it is described as "Britain and Irland Map 100 X 100". It's a beautiful map, it's just a little big, and the mainland Europe landmass is about the size of Britain.

dgb
Oct 01, 2006, 06:35 AM
Hi

This was exactly my problem - I have downloaded a huge map of Europe (100 x 87) but wanted a smaller version (84 x 52).

I want to keep the map, as it renders europe exactly how I want it, but I want to trim the edges down.

I can't do it in BMP to WBS (as this only seems to let me create WBS from BMP), or worldbuilder itself.

Can anyone help? My python knowledge is non-existent.

Thanks in advance

ohcrapitsnico
Oct 01, 2006, 07:35 AM
Your problem unfortunately can't be solved easily even though it's a simple request. Your best bet is to try the bmp to wbs converter in the utility programs subforum if I'm not mistaken.

dgb
Oct 01, 2006, 07:43 AM
Thanks for this, but as I say, I can't get this converter to do anything other than create a wbs from a bmp - but maybe I'm just being a tool :)