Delete all old saves, and try to do that in the future too!

(Forget the old suggested rule all!)


Happy Civing!

/Grey Fox

Edit: Glad the rule is gone! Working on deleting my old attachments. It is very time consuming!

We should delete all the old games that are no longer being played.

hmm.. donsig may be right. This rule does seem very inconvenient.

Anyway, you can have as many savegame attachments as you want in the current game. But when you are done, you should try to delete those obsolete games. Hope this is more reasonable...

We can save lots of space by deleting those save games in old sucession game threads. We only need to keep the last few saves in old SG thread.

Originally posted by donsig
This rule sucks.

We should delete all the old games that are no longer being played.
Yea that sounds much better!
It will scrolling to find your game and not make a constant nusinse for the player
I say just delete old Attachments once the player downloads and its not being used anymore that would be easier than sending the game to the (the Gamestarter) each time. :p

Yeah probably...

But when you are done, you should try to delete those obsolete games.

I'll go through the old games I was in and see what can be done away with. Might be more efficient to get rid of complete threads once a game is done. What would it take to do that?

I suggested this once, and everyone said no :(

That's ok though, because good ideas never die :D

Just a technical question -

Just because you delete the attachment in the thread, does that really mean you are deleting the attachment on the server? I have a feeling that all you will be doing is deleting the link to the file. But that's just off the top of my head.

Another question, is this site running off a dedicated server?

Shld we delete the screenshots too? I think each of those can take up to 100k+ in space....

I would prefer to keep screen shots unless ULTRA critical.
They are to much a part of the games writeup in history.
On the other hands, I have started deleting old save games.


On killing threads - NO!
They are a part of the history of this forum.

All right, I spent the last couple hours (seemed like longer) deleting attachments. In six different thread I zapped a total of 21 saves and 10 screen shots. The latter are about 125k each while the former range from (probably) 100k up to near the max of 500k. Let's say 250k for a ball park average. That's about 7 MB or one per cent of what was there. (This estimate is probably on the high side.)

This is not as much fun as playing civ. There are other threads where I've played games but I think I'm deleted out for now.

Is there a way we can nominate old threads for the recycle bin?

ARGGGGGGGGG

Why do people keep wanted to destroy our history and the old threads?

On the other hand, I have also started deleting our of date games saves.
I would like to keep the pictures, as they are part of the game history.

Let's see - cleaned up Plxi, CSG, LK3, ...

On killing threads - NO! They are a part of the history of this forum.

I'm all for history and archives - heck I work in a library - but I like playing succession games here. Difficult to do when the forum is down.

I doubt many of these games are looked at once they get buried on page 8. I remember one game I played in where even the players lost interest. It came down to myself and one other player to finish it. Who's gonna miss that thread?

We had a Prussian game that went sour and we abandoned - no point in keeping that. I'm sure many others could go.

I'd like to keep the screen shots as well. I'd also like to be able to remove posts that don't pertain to the story of the game. (Like the 'I've got the game' posts in open games.) We could do this when I started playing succession games but that ability has been taken from us.

Do we need more monitors (moderators?) for this particular forum? Do we need a standard policy for running succession games?

Why do people keep wanted to destroy our history and the old threads?

I'm not advocating wiping everything. I just think there are certain threads that are not looked at anymore and won't be looked at. It would be nice to point out a thread, nominate it for deletion. If no one objects then a moderator could delete it. That seems like it would be a more efficient way of conserving server space. Since we can only edit our own posts server space will continue to be a problem if only a handful of us clean up our old saves.

I really want to avoid having to save server space by having only one attachment per game!

I think some of the SGs are pretty good stories and shld be preserved, minus the saved files and redundant screenshots. Deleting whole threads will be just too wasteful. :o

I am sure TF can appoint a few trustworthy mini-mods to help clean up the old SGs in this section in case the posters never turn up to delete them. Like when he appointed Duck to mini-mod the Civ2 Demo game. :) These mini-mods can delete, amend posts but not reading the state secrets of CFC. ;)

I will delete all my old save attachments, and though I feel the same as Lee, the screenshots too.

Perhaps the option to delete posts should be restored as well. Alot of old posts (like "I can play in a few hours") could be thrown out.

Originally posted by joespaniel
I will delete all my old save attachments, and though I feel the same as Lee, the screenshots too.


:cry: :cry: :cry:
Damn lack of space....
All the color of the old games are gone.

I think some of the SGs are pretty good stories and shld be preserved, minus the saved files and redundant screenshots. Deleting whole threads will be just too wasteful.

Yeah, but the key word is 'some'. I think there are some games that no one would miss. Like our aborted prussian game.

Anyway, your idea of a mini-mod is great. If they're looking for volunteers I'd sign up.

Hey joespaniel - don't go crazy deleting all the screen shots. Maybe we should concentrate on the saves and see what happens.

Maybe we could leave a few critical saved games in some of the threads, like GOTM submissions, first save, somewhere around 10 AD, and the final save, and maybe a few of the critical turning points of the games. It would be a shame to delete the LK series and the RBD series for example, because there is alot of information in those that will help alot of players. I learned more from reading through those threads than I did from the strategy section of the forum. There are a few critical points in some of those games where certain tactics were needed to save/win the game that are explained that newer players could download and try, and greatly help to make them better players.

Just because you delete the attachment in the thread, does that really mean you are deleting the attachment on the server? I have a feeling that all you will be doing is deleting the link to the file. But that's just off the top of my head.

Another question, is this site running off a dedicated server?

Deleting attachments does delete the files off the server. :)

The site is hosted by Telefragged. They have their own servers...

The easy upload feature is great for files that don't need # of downloads tracking and I hope people would use it as much as possible.

I agree we should keep the threads in this forum since they are part of the forum history. Just delete those obsolete saves and I'll be happy. :D

OK. Im on it. :D

Thunderfall,

Can you let us know how the space situation is going?
I have made it through 10 games I have been in so far.
I still have at least 10 more.

Ha! Over two hours to do this! Just so you know how much I appreciate CF being here for us! And sorry for the problems, as I presume the SG's are the source of file overload, in general.


OK, I've gone through all finished SG's in which I've participated and erased the saved games. All, that is, except for the infamous "Oh My God What Happened to the Zulus???" turn (from RBD1), "Fat Lady Hasn't Sung Yet" (from RBD4), and "Eighteen Techs Pop From the Great Library" (RBD7). There were other watershed turns I considered saving (like "Baltimore Shuffle" and "You Do NOT Threaten the United States" from RBD3) but decided I had to draw a line somewhere, or I'd end up not erasing anything.

I also INTENDED to leave alone all my turns in which I was the last player in the game and got the win/loss, so that the final record for each game might be preserved... only to realize that for all the games I've played, I've not yet once been the "last guy to bat". Somebody else has always seen the last turn! Amazing.

List of Completed SG's for which I've erased my saves:

RBD1
RBD2
LK7
RBD3
RBD4
RBD7
RBD11
Infantry
Utopia

Oh, I also left ALL of the saves for LOTR1 unmolested. That was the first Deity SG not only attempted, but won! Perhaps it should remain undisturbed, for future reference.

List of ongoing games in which I am participating:

RBD5
RBD6
RBD9
RBD10
RBD13
RBD14
RBD16
RBD18
RBD19

Is it all right if I wait until each game finishes before deleting the saves there? Just in case there is some need to refer back, or even (goodness forbid!) to backtrack due to file corruption, etc?

In the mean time... I'll urge all of my comrades to clear up their saves from old, completed games. I'm also not yet clear on all the steps involved in the new file uploads -- but do I understand correctly that file space on YOUR file server is NOT a problem, and that only these old games (with files stored on the forum server) will need this scorched earth "erase the old files" treatment? Or what? Do you prefer if we avoid using the forum attachment feature as much as possible? OK for small, compressed screenies? Or best to be avoided entirely? Guide us! :) We need you to stay in business! :D


- Sirian

Oh, man, what a pain this situation is...

Rather than simply deleting the save files, wouldn't it be better to download them, upload them to the file server via the "easy upload" feature, and then delete them from the SGs? Perhaps you could edit the postings that previously had the attachments to reflect the new locations of the saves.

There are some people who, when reading through the threads, like to download and experiment with the game as it was at the time (particularly when the game is saved immediately prior to a lot of interesting military activity, for instance). Deleting the savegames will remove that possibility, and that's a shame.

It would also be of some use to know how much space is really being freed up by doing this. Just a rough estimate would be sufficient.

Rather than simply deleting the save files, wouldn't it be better to download them, upload them to the file server via the "easy upload" feature, and then delete them from the SGs? Perhaps you could edit the postings that previously had the attachments to reflect the new locations of the saves.

That's not a bad idea, but it's even more work than just deleting the attachments. Some games I wouldn't mind doing that (like Rise of Rome, Babylon Uptopia and our (first) German game) Others I don't think are worth it.

It would also be of some use to know how much space is really being freed up by doing this. Just a rough estimate would be sufficient.

I agree! It would also help us decide whether we can leave the screen shot attachments as they are...

Originally posted by lkendter
Thunderfall,

Can you let us know how the space situation is going?
I have made it through 10 games I have been in so far.
I still have at least 10 more.

Unfortunately there is no easy way for me tell how much space we are saving... I have to get the info from Telefragged. (I don't even know the total size of the forum)

You guys don't need to delete those old attchments in one day. Just delete a few each day...

And if you want to keep some of the saves/screenshots, feel free to upload those files to the file server and link to them, as suggested by kcbrown.

Thanks for everyone's cooperation. :)

I finally caught up with my bills and bought a newer computer. Now I can play Civ3.! Whoohooo!:D :rotfl: [dance] [dance] :jump: :tank:
Now if I can just make sure I don't lose more than a week or two's sleep while I binge with Marla's map! :crazyeye:

I just want to say thanks to the posters that are going through and cleaning up the old SG threads. You have shown that you are a valued part of the community...plus you have saved us Moderators from being commanded by TF to do this! :D Seriously though, thanks for helping to make CFC a great community. Like TF was saying, take you time. This is not something that needs to be finished in a weeks time, but it will help to have this done before the next outage, and we never know when a backup might be required to get the site back up.