how does this work exactly? i've read of it being able to work like the diplomats from civ 2, but i'm curious of the truth. anyone do any tests on it?

Will test it now, but from what i hear it has no effect.

Yeah I heard the same thing, but if i could get it to work, it would blow the FF mod's possibilities wide open... For one thing, I could just give the Ivalician Mediator UUs the ability to "Charm" enemy units (as they could in Final Fantasy Tactics) and get them to join your side.... Right now I just have them enslave enemy units to Dragoons....

thanks all, i hope it works!

Unless i did it the wrong way, charm does nothing. At all.

so i feared...

Just curious, are lot of mods made with the cracked editor ?
Or are they not allowed on the forum ?

About a year ago I tried to get it to work for 2 weeks solid. And got no results. Teleport will work though. (if I remember rightly).

well i've only just D/L'd it today. i was a bit wary untill all this talk of teleportation got me wondering.

Ah yes, the ever-enchanting hidden "Charm" button. Here's (http://forums.civfanatics.com/archive/index.php/t-75688.html) a thread going back to the Dark Ages mostly about teleport, but with this singular and tantanlizing post:

(from GoldflashJun 24, 2004)
Warpstorm Basically just told me what Charm does... It acts like the Diplomats from Civ 1 and 2 and lets you convert enemy units to your side.

I've not noticed Warpstorm on the Civ3 boards in quite a while. He had excellent contacts with the developers and IIRC helped develop C3C.

Best,

Oz

EDIT: Just noticed that Bluemofia's posted a Guide to Teleporting. Make certain to read the whole thing!

-O.

so would a PM work to get info off of him? i really don't like PM'ing people i dont know too well.

If I may be so bold to ask, who is this Warpstorm?

so would a PM work to get info off of him? i really don't like PM'ing people i dont know too well.

Dunno -- but IIRC he was always polite, helpful, and trustworthy. He's contact data's here. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/member.php?u=7981) I'm certain a polite note of introduction followed by your question wouldn't hurt at all. EDIT: And he hasn't been on the boards in quite a while -- I'd recommend email instead of pm.

Best,

Oz

okay, i've PM'd him. all i can do now is wait :)

Warpstorm is still around, he just doesn't post much. And he's a nice guy- don't be afraid to ask him a question. :)

Actually re-reading that old thread I did get one result. When combined with bombard it would destroy terrain improvements but not hurt units. Or charm them. I also tried bombarding cities in the hope that charm bombardment reduced a cities culture score so a nearby city could flip it. Again nothing.

I think it was something they meant to included, started work then changed their minds and left it out.

I would be delighted if someone could succeed where I failed.

weasel: i know most people are nice like that, and i'm sure he is, but its just a thing i have. i mean, the PM ended up written in the most polite way i could, and almost like a letter format. i'm either a sly SOB or an overly polite quiet person, depending on the people i'm talikng to.

When combined with bombard it would destroy terrain improvements but not hurt units.
That's good to know. Were you still able to target units? Could you damage cities at all?

I know that people have tried with ranged bombard, but does it work with defensive bombard, or NO bombard? (Think Collateral Damage ;))

I know that people have tried with ranged bombard, but does it work with defensive bombard, or NO bombard? (Think Collateral Damage ;))
Defensive bombard is the best guess I can come up with. That way, when they attack, they charge towards your stack and join you, instead of become yours when they are in the middle of a stack.

I'll test it when I find time.

That's good to know. Were you still able to target units? Could you damage cities at all?


I was able to target units and cities, but no matter how high I put the bombard strength or firepower it never hurt anything bar terrain improvements.
While I didnt give them just defensive bombard(ie they had a range) I did let AI warriors attack the unit with charm bombard. The result? Yep you guessed it. No effect on warrior and one dead charm unit. I dont see how purely defensive bombard would make a difference, but it might be worth a shot. Nothing to lose right?

I could do a test or 2 tomorrow (as I recently quit an evil corporation. And daytime TV stinks) if you guys like. I dont remember all the details as according to that old thread it was actually 2 years ago that I tried, but I think I did quite extensive tests...

i wish you both the best of luck!

I was able to target units and cities, but no matter how high I put the bombard strength or firepower it never hurt anything bar terrain improvements.
While I didnt give them just defensive bombard(ie they had a range) I did let AI warriors attack the unit with charm bombard. The result? Yep you guessed it. No effect on warrior and one dead charm unit. I dont see how purely defensive bombard would make a difference, but it might be worth a shot. Nothing to lose right?.
How about have 2 units, both with 99 defensive bombard, and 10 ROF, both of them have charm. (that way, one of them is guarenteed to attack with defensive bombard)

Can't test it at the moment. Too busy.

Okay, hours of experimenting, thousands of test firings and 6 packets of wotsits later leads me to conclude......
The same thing as last time. Charm will let you target cities, units and terrain improvements but only hurt terrain improvements. I thought the same mechanism was used to determine if terrain improvements and city improvements were destroyed, but I never saw a building destroyed (at 940 str, 10 firepower and thousands of attempts).

I guess you could make an avenging druid type unit; plant forests and destroy the vestiges of civilisation, But the AI would still attempt to bombard units and cities, not knowing that it wont work.

Sorry Blue forgot to answerHow about have 2 units, both with 99 defensive bombard, and 10 ROF, both of them have charm. (that way, one of them is guarenteed to attack with defensive bombard)


Weirdly enough, the defensive bombad could wound units. But charm didnt do anything else in this situation.

I guess you could make an avenging druid type unit; plant forests and destroy the vestiges of civilisation, But the AI would still attempt to bombard units and cities, not knowing that it wont work.

Sorry guys...
I wanna get a hidden nationality PETA member for the modern age, yeah that'll show those hippies in germany.............

What does PETA have to do with Germany? PETA is a bunch of idiots who want us to stop every kind of interaction with animals... (1)regardless of the fact that we are (un)civilized animals and (2)allowing them to do anything to us...

this is the first I've heard of this! :blush:

What other secrets am I unaware of...:confused:

Its funny, PETA being used to fight hippies, germany beng the most unlikely hippy country.

Iron Beagle: I'm sure you know of the teleport option?

Just for the record, I think I've reached the limits of what anal probin...er testing charm can teach me. I'm givving up.

no problem :)

Heh. Ozy Quoted Me!

I remember that thread.

Heh. Ozy Quoted Me!

I remember that thread.

:lol: And why would you think yourself not worthy of citation?

:goodjob: ,

Oz

And why would you think yourself not worthy of citation?
Perhaps because he has deep inferiority complex caused by serious continued anal probing/schol exams?

Perhaps because he has deep inferiority complex caused by serious continued anal probing/schol exams?

FYI, this type of comment tempts me to alert a moderator to a needlessly snide comment. :thumbdown

-Oz

And wasn't it me who mentioned anal probing?

And wasn't it me who mentioned anal probing?

I checked back in the thread; you're technically correct; my sincere apologies. Nevertheless, cutting off (and thereby alluding to) something is often considered wit; simply stating it rude; what can I say? -- We're an odd species.

Best,

Oz

Erm, no need to apologise, that was directed at Takhisis. I agree with you, I think it was rude. Just wanted to point out that he cant slag off goldflash for anal-probing, that was me....

Anything goes as long as its funny. Great excuse to get out of school as well:
"Why wern't you at school yesterday?"
"Anal probing.........."

Gentlemen, the theme of this thread is charm. ;)

Gentlemen, the theme of this thread is charm.


:lol:

True but it doesn't work in the editor, what makes you think it will work in real life?:mischief:

Gentlemen, the theme of this thread is charm. ;)

Well, then don't forget the "cracked" part. ;)

i recieved a reply from Warpstorm, and he's said he'll have to ask one of the programmers to see if its in the shipped version.