Make your predictions/analysis here ;) .

1st Rd

I'll take Yanks over Tigers and A's over Twins- AL

I'll take Padres over Cards and Mets over Dodgers- NL

:scan: :scan:

Yankees, Twins, Padres, Mets

I too really think the Twins will take that series, but the A's are my favorite
AL team so I felt obligated to go with them.

yankees
a's
cards
dodgers

I too really think the Twins will take that series, but the A's are my favorite
AL team so I felt obligated to go with them.
thankfully, I feel no loyalty to teams in the AL. In fact, I feel no loyalty to teams that are not the Expos....:(

thankfully, I feel no loyalty to teams in the AL. In fact, I feel no loyalty to teams that are not the Expos....:(

Your way is smart- my way cost me in all prediction leagues and usually hurts
me in my fantasy stuff too :sad: , I got to have players I like on my team ;) .
The exception is the civ fantasy league where I missed the draft and got
T.O. :eek: :mad: .

As per other thread, I go for Yankees, Twins, Padres and Dodgers.

Yankees over Padres in the World Series.

Totally picking who I'd prefer to win:

Tigers, As, Cards, Mets

Mets over As in WS. (so much more devastating for the As to get so close and fall short...)

Here are mine from the other thread:Minnesota Twins vs. Oakland Athletics, 3-1

New York Yankees vs. Detroit Tigers, 3-0

San Diego Padres vs. St. Louis Cardinals, 2-3

New York Mets vs. Los Angeles Dodgers, 2-3A's just beat the Twins, not helping... That series was the only one where I picked the team I liked better...

EDIT: Oh no... Orlando Hernandez hurt his right calf during a workout today... :( So it's Glavine on three days' rest or John Maine in Game 1...

And if he's not available... is it Dave Williams or Oliver Perez that replaces him? It would be awesome to see Oliver Perez strike out 16 in a complete game shutout... but it wouldn't be too great to see him give up 6 runs in 1 1/3 innings the next start... or maybe even Brian Bannister... he's probably the only one that's available, since he was assigned to the taxi squad (or whatever it's called).

Yankees, Twins, St. Louis, Mets

Yankees, A's, Padres, Mets.

Yankees - Padres World Series, Yankees win!

Outrageous strike zone differences in the first inning in San Diego. I'm gonna have a heart attack before this game is over if it continues like this.....

Edit: middle of the 5th, and 4-0 Cards. All is well so far....

Copied over from the other thread.

Minnesota Twins vs. Oakland Athletics; 3-0

New York Yankees vs. Detroit Tigers, 3-2

San Diego Padres vs. St. Louis Cardinals, 1-3

New York Mets vs. Los Angeles Dodgers, 3-2

I predicted Minnesota sweeping Oakland, which has already been blown away. Oh well.

Chris Carpenter is just amazing. I really do hope he gets CY Young again this year. (Talking about the current Cardinals vs Padres game).

Edit: Something I thought was funny, the Cards-Padres game according to Yahoo! tracker.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/9744/Cards.jpg

My god... poor Eckstein going 0-12.

Wow. Roberts is having a helluva game in reality, but 9 for 9 ? You gotta give him credit.

I'm pretty disappointed that the Cards have only managed a single run from 33 hits, tho'

Edit: I love looking at this screenshot between each half inning. Carp had 21 Ks in just 6.1 innings ? Now that's impressive. Nolan Ryan had nothing on this....

Cards take it 5-1, quite impressively.

It's not fair, really. I had consoled myself months ago that we just weren't good enough this year, with too many injuries, to go all the way, and therefore I shouldn't get my hopes up. But I can't help it. Carpenter pitching well, the bullpen doing well, fielding good, Edmonds hitting again, and of course Pujols - maybe we are good enough after all.

I trust Jeff Weaver will inject a note of reality on Thursday... :)

Cards take it 5-1, quite impressively.

It's not fair, really. I had consoled myself months ago that we just weren't good enough this year, with too many injuries, to go all the way, and therefore I shouldn't get my hopes up. But I can't help it. Carpenter pitching well, the bullpen doing well, fielding good, Edmonds hitting again, and of course Pujols - maybe we are good enough after all.

I trust Jeff Weaver will inject a note of reality on Thursday... :)

I sure hope not, Weaver has pitched pretty well on the road. He just pitches badly at home. In the past month, Weaver has been pretty solid. If the batting line-up can back him up... I think we stand a good chance.

Then, game #3 is back at home... at Jeff Suppans best. As basically our #2 starter, I'd say about the same thing with weaver.. as long as he gets run support... we stand a pretty good chance.

The pitchers I'm worried about screwing over our chances is Marquis and Reyes.

The pitchers I'm worried about screwing over our chances is Marquis and Reyes.

I believe TLR left Reyes off the post-season roster, and has said he incldued Marquis because he liked him more (than Reyes) as an everyday relief option. I think it's pretty clear that he's going with a three man rotation, with a deep pool of mediocre talent in the bullpen.

But you're right about Weaver - on the road, he's been 4-1 for the Cards. And Suppan has equally performed much better in St Louis than away, so the switch in their rotation positions makes a lot of sense.

Some observations:


D.Jeter = 5/5 with a HR :eek: - the man sure luvs the bright lights eh ;) .

F.Johnson rains on Twin's parade.

C.Carpenter looks sharp.

Detroit and San Diego look weak offensively, but only 1 game :scan: .

Let's go, Mets go!
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Let's go Mets!

Do it... do it... do it...

[organ-y stuff]

Come on... Let's go!
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To make the dream work,
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You'll find a Mets fan,
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For all your Mets here,
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There's no stoppin' us now,
We're gonna do it again,
It's not a question of how,
It's just a matter... (do it...) it's just a matter... (do it...)
It's just a matter of when,
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...
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Where there's a Met man,
You'll find a Mets fan,
Let's go (Let's go Mets!)
This is a Mets year,
For all your Mets here,
Let's go (Let's go Mets)

Do it... bring it home... do it... bring it home... do it... bring it home now!
Let's go, Mets go!

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Let's go!
Do it... let's go... do it... let's go...
Make it happen!
Let's go, Mets go!

There's no stoppin' us now,
We're gonna do it again,
It's not a question of how,
It's just a matter... (do it...) it's just a matter (do it...)
It's just a matter of when,
Let's go, Mets go!
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Do it... (do it...) Do it... (do it...) Do it...
Let's go!

We've got the teamwork,
To make the dream work,
We've got the teamwork,
Let's go Mets!
To make the dream work,
Let's go, Mets go!
We've got the teamwork,
Let's go, Mets go!
To make the dream work,
Let's go, Mets go!
We've got the teamwork,
Let's go, Mets go!
To make the dream work,
Let's go, Mets go!
We're gonna make it this time,
We're gonna take it home,
Let's go, Mets go!
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Mets, Mets, Mets, Mets,
Let's go Mets!Lowe is right-handed... Mets will do well... :hammer:

T, I got to see that Superstar in the making Tyner for a couple of at-bats today at lunch :cool: :D .

Lowe's sinkerball better be sinking or he is in deep-doo.

Lowe is right-handed... Mets will do well... :hammer:

Yeah, but don't you wish you had a pitcher yourselves ? To be fair, Maine's done pretty well, but he wouldn't be anyone's first choice to open a playoff series.

To be honest, I'm perfectly comfortable with Maine starting game one. His poise is incredible (I think he zones out a bit during regular season games, so he can't be bothered too much by the pressure) and his stuff is very very good. He only needs to go five innings, and that's what he does best...

All season I've felt that he was the Mets' best pitcher.

Whoa! Crazy play in the top of the second inning! :eek:

The double tag at home?

I'm just wondering how Kent didn't score...

I believe TLR left Reyes off the post-season roster, and has said he incldued Marquis because he liked him more (than Reyes) as an everyday relief option. I think it's pretty clear that he's going with a three man rotation, with a deep pool of mediocre talent in the bullpen.

But you're right about Weaver - on the road, he's been 4-1 for the Cards. And Suppan has equally performed much better in St Louis than away, so the switch in their rotation positions makes a lot of sense.

Haha, I didn't even think of that. So there's a good chance neither Marquis nor Reyes will be pitching at all. I actually have pretty high hopes for the Cardinals, our three pitchers are pretty solid. With how good Carpenter is, we really just need Suppan and Weaver to switch out winning. As long as the line-up can supply the runs, I think were manage it.

From my point of view, it'll be even better if the Dodgers beat the mets. As I'm fairly sure we can beat the Dodgers in a series. If the Dodgers do beat the Mets, I'd say our chances of making it to the world series is pretty good.

Now winning the world series, no matter how much I love the cardinals.. I don't think it's happening.

I'm just wondering how Kent didn't score...

Good bounce back to the RF, I guess, and two very accurate throws. Drew could have scored while LoDuca's back was turned if he hadn't hesitated - in a one run game, that whole play must have been pretty awful to watch for any Dodger fans.

Kent wasn't running 100% either.

Without having several of lefthanders on a team, it might be tough to beat the Mets. :scan: Delgado and Beltran are devastating, of course lefthanders
have to deal with Wright.

that play at the plate totally reminded me of the Dale Berra/BNobby Meacham play from back in '85. i know i'm dating myself and all but i remember watching that game when it really happened!

maybe Whomp remembers...i mean, i'll never forget that play!

PS-before the days of big cable, the NY Yankees games used to be on WPIX and this station was actually on basic cable in south jersey. so that enabled me to watch the Yanks alot as a kid (the mets~wor, the cubs~wgn, and the braves~tbs also).

In the 80's we got all the Cubs and Braves games here in NC too :cool: . Now we get them plus the White Sox and Orioles... luv it.

really dg? you get the chi-sox in n carolina? what's that all about?

we don't get wgn out here anymore. tbs is still around w/ the braves. and we even still get some mets games from time to time on the wb channel. i never watch them though :shifty:

are the o's games on the comcast channel?

Yeah we get the White Sox on WGN when Cubs are not playing :mischief: ,
and the O's are on Comcast.

hmph - we don't get wgn anymore.

i guess having wgn as a kid was what made me a big Ryne Sandberg fan since i was actually able to watch his games.

I never liked the Cubs or Braves, probably cause I saw them all the time...
and hated their announcers, but not as bad as I hate the current White
Sox ones- sorry Whomp :mischief: . The announcers I like are usually pitchers, like Orel or Mike Flanagan for instance :cool: .

yeah - not a big Skip Carey or Don Sutton fan me-self ;)

and what exactly is up w/ the chi-sox announcer when a chi player hits a HR? that is annoying...

i miss Richie Asburn and Phil Rizutto :D 'dem were the days gentlemen :D

yeah - not a big Skip Carey or Don Sutton fan me-self ;)

and what exactly is up w/ the chi-sox announcer when a chi player hits a HR? that is annoying...

i miss Richie Asburn and Phil Rizutto :D 'dem were the days gentlemen :D

Skip and them can put you to sleep in an instant though :mischief: .

yeah :lol: they're a good nap tonic :D

What happened in Det at NYY today? :scan: Give me the run-down.

EDIT: Never mind, I got it. Det evens series.

Cards 2-0 in the game, 2-0 in the series. We're looking a lot better than we have for, err, 2 or 3 months, and the Padres look very weak indeed. I guess the stat they kept showing about San Diego having the worst batting average in the NL at home, but the best away from home, might explain how they got to the post-season (oh, that and Hoffman, as when they get a lead, they can keep it far better most teams, and certainly better than St Louis). Otherwise, they haven't looked like a division winning team to date, which must be awfully frustrating for the Padres fans.

As per other thread, I go for Yankees, Twins, Padres and Dodgers.


With the Twins and Padres both on their knees, it shows how much you know about baseball, limey....

Yeah, very surprising for the Cards, who have the worst road record of any of the playoff teams.

Cant believe my damn TWINs, are 0-2, going to CA, and the big sluggers are 1-20 thats Mauer/Cudduyer/Morneau/Hunter,damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, but they will bounce back, i hope, LOL.

I knew the Padres were weak in the hitting department, but dang :eek: .

Cant believe my damn TWINs, are 0-2, going to CA, and the big sluggers are 1-20 thats Mauer/Cudduyer/Morneau/Hunter,damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, but they will bounce back, i hope, LOL.They better... I want to see more of Tyner in the postseason... :cry:

Bye bye Twinkies.... :(

Odd how the underdog A's just sweep Minnesota, while the Underdog Cardinals might also complete a sweep of the Padres.

Not something anyone would have predicted.

Go As!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

How 'bout them Tigers and old man Kenny Rogers? :eek:

Not exactly playoff stuff, but Buck O'Neill died today. This man deserves to be in the Hall of Fame IMO.

How 'bout them Tigers and old man Kenny Rogers? :eek:

Best stuff he's done since Lucille.

With the Tigers win, I'm now edging in on a perfect 0 for 4 on my playoff predictions. Sure, there's a lot of games yet, and I still fancy the Yankees, but I can't imagine anyone taking my picks for the Championship Series too seriously now :lol:

If the Tigers win, that will be the ONLY matchup I got right. And I wasn't even expecting it :p

Am I the only one that realises that the guys at ESPN, minus Joe Morgan and Jon Miller, really suck at identifying pitches? They well calling Glavine's curveballs change-ups, calling some other pitchers' change-ups fastballs and saying that someone (I think it was Weaver or some other right-handed sinkerballer) threw a few splitters when those pitches were clearly change-ups. And I swore I heard someone say that Aaron Heilman threw a slider and then comment on the reason why Heilman was so tough was because of that slider. Heilman has thrown about two sliders all year! Do your research!

They better... I want to see more of Tyner in the postseason... :cry:


NOPE they blew it, and Joe Morgan YUCK, they need to get good ole Bert Blyleven.

Seeing the Yankees lose warms my soul :)

heh - i don't remember which announcer it was but did anyone else catch the comment made about the Yankees when they were about to be eliminated. it went something like this:

"Rooting for the Yankees in today's age is like rooting for the house in a casino blackjack game"

Since the turn of the century, the Yanks have put on a Braves show.

heh - i don't remember which announcer it was but did anyone else catch the comment made about the Yankees when they were about to be eliminated. it went something like this:

"Rooting for the Yankees in today's age is like rooting for the house in a casino blackjack game"I think you added a few words... or maybe I missed a few, since I don't remember the "today" or the "casino". ;)

I'm sorely disappointed by the lack of coverage of the Yankees' loss by YES though. :(

Grapevine has it that Torre is out and Piniella is in. What have you heard?

I've heard that the New York Post says the same.

Cards win behind Carpenter again. He probably did blow a second staright Cy Young in the last few weeks of the season, but we are such a different team with him pitching.

So, I expect it to be Athletics over Mets in the World Series now. I just hope my predictions for the Championship Series do as well as those for the Divisional Series!

My Championchip Series Predictions:

New York Mets over St. Louis 4-2.
Oakland over Detroit 4-3.

World Series

Oakland over New York Mets 4-3.

I'm going to go off on a limb and predict two upstarts.

St. Louis over New York; 4-3
Detroit over Oakland; 4-3

I got 2 or 4 series right so far. How did everyone else do? :scan:

A's over Twins- check
Yanks over Tigers- Nope
Mets over Dodgers- check
Padres over Cards- Nope



Next picks:

A's over Tigers- going for A's
Mets over Cards- going for Cards

Dont CARE anymore, my damn TWINkees are gone? sigh sigh!!

~~ 2 of 4 :) ~~

~~ 2 of 4 :) ~~


Who ya picking for the next set? :scan:

1 of 4. Only got the St. Louis one right.

Just like I planned. ;)

ALCS: Tigers over Athletics in 7.
NLCS: Cardinals over Mets in 5. :mischief:

So are we to assume you want the A's to win too Tomoyo? :D

I want the Mets to play the A's in the WS. :p

I don't really have much of a rooting interest in that series, though I might fall in love with Verlander, Bonderman, and co. If it were a series by itself, I'd root for the Tigers, since I hate the A's. I've had a soft spot for the Mariners ever since John Olerud went there and Oakland just demolished Seattle this year. :sad:

1 for 4. Looks like I'm right on track.

2 for 4.

ALCS: A's
NLCS: Mets

ALCS: As
Unlike SuBI, I'm not a big fan of the Mational League, so I will not pick the MLCS. But for NLCS, I pick the Cards.

Unlike SuBI, I'm not a big fan of the Mational League, so I will not pick the MLCS. But for NLCS, I pick the Cards.

Perhaps if more people would give it a try, the Mational League would become more popular. ;)

Who ya picking for the next set? :scan:
i don't know man. it's hard...

so i'll say A's and Cards :)

New York Mets vs. Detroit Tigers in the World Series.

Seacrest out.

So, with 10 votes in, we have Athletics over Tigers, 7-3, and Cards over Metropolitans 6-4.

We seem somewhat out of kilter with accepted wisdom in the NLCS at least....

So, with 10 votes in, we have Athletics over Tigers, 7-3, and Cards over Metropolitans 6-4.

We seem somewhat out of kilter with accepted wisdom in the NLCS at least....
yeah Simnel. i voted against conventional wisdom in the NL also. i mean, on paper, the mets should beat StL. however, convention often means nothing this time of the year :) and i like to root against the mets :)

the one thing that jumps out at me for the NLCS is whether or not the mets can get good innings out of their starters for a 7 game series. the dodgers lineup imo is poop. i want to see pujols bring his a-game and make the mets SPs sweat at least a little bit...

I think the Mets best option is to pitch around Pujols the entire series- both
Rolen and Edmunds are not 100% and I wouldn't let Albert hit with no solid
backup.

yeah Simnel.

Please, call me Lambert.... ;)


the one thing that jumps out at me for the NLCS is whether or not the mets can get good innings out of their starters for a 7 game series.


I think there's more doubt as to whether we can get good innings out of our starters :( On the other hand, I commend your optimism and hope you're proved right. If they're prepared to pitch to Pujols, then we've always got a chance.

PS ESPN's mainstream wisdom had the Astros winning the Central, and, later, the Padres walking over the Cardinals. So maybe there's not so much to be said for this mainstream wisdom stuff :)

Cory Lidle killed in a plane crash. :eek: :sad:

Yeah, he was piloting. Does anyone else think it's suicide?

He didn't seem like the type to commit suicide... and more of the type to be careless...

He didn't seem like the type to commit suicide... and more of the type to be careless...

It seems a little weird to be flying so low in Manhattan though...:confused:

What might've happened was that he was planning on going over Manhattan higher up, but then he suffered engine problems that caused the helicopter/plane to dip, and he couldn't get control of it.

So bizarre...I had heart about a small plane crash in Manhatten, but never really dreamed someone like this would be involved.

i remember watching my local comcast sports net channel a few months ago when lidle was w/ the phils and they did this segment of him flying his little twin engine cesna around south jersey and around philly.

he also had a clause in his K which nullified it if he was killed or injured in a plane crash. however, his K ended once the regualr season ended so he got all the money owed to him.

it's sad for sure.

dg,
it's a shame our last memories of him in a phils uni was him eating ice cream in the dugout and being accused by teammates that he was never physically prepared every 5th day :sad: ironically enough, the ny press etc was accussing him of that also. it seems lidle went onto wfan and pleaded his case (and torre's). it's just beat man. i feel bad...you never want to see a dude lose his life and his poor family.

What might've happened was that he was planning on going over Manhattan higher up, but then he suffered engine problems that caused the helicopter/plane to dip, and he couldn't get control of it.


There were reports of hearing engine sputtering before the crash.

yeah El J, and in all that Philly stuff they also said that all he cared about was
flying his plane around :mischief: . I know it's terrible, but my first actual thought when hearing about it was that his ice cream probably fell off of his
cone and he was distracted... I apologize and I'm sorry for letting that thought in my head. Condolences to his family.

i know dg :sad: i know bud.

i also saw that when all of this happened that his wife and kid were actually on a flight to LA and had no idea what was going on b/c they were up in the air and all. however, the media got wind of it and raced to the gate at LAX where his wife and kid were set to land. now that is pathetic :rolleyes: friggin' media...sheesh...always looking for a damn story w/ zero regard for how someone may feel.

The things the damn media does always reminds me of that Don Henly song-
'Dirty Laundry' - "can we interview the widow, is the head dead yet- the
boys in the news room have a running bet" "we got the bubbleheaded bleach
blond comes on at five, she can tell you about the planecrash with a gleam
in her eye" (words are probably not exactly right- going from memory :old: )

They probably ran up to her and said 'how do you feeeeeeeel about your
husband dying in a plane crash?' :mad: :mad:

Cardinals are really putting the pressure on the Mets. 5 to 0 and it's only the the Top of the 3rd at the moment. The most surprising is the solo homer by Suppan, it's not often that you see the pitcher get a hit, much less a home run.

The Cardinals have really turned around during the post season so far, the other batters have been hitting better.. and it's no longer just a "Pujols show." That and their forcing them to pitch to Pujols, which is a VERY dangerous situation given his numbers.

My, my, what happened to Trachsel? He was throwing like he was tired after throwing 120 pitches the way he missed up and in (mostly in) so much. :(

Plate umpire was incredibly unfair to Oliver, though, calling obvious strikes balls and then calling pitches that were further out strikes for Suppan. I guess I can find anything to gripe about if I want.

I wonder who Detroit will play. Our team has impressed me to no end throughout this year. It was a fun watching the Tigers sweep Oakland. I guess the only downside is that it's been much harder to get tickets to the games this year (and after the nice opening run of the season, I didn't even try). They have put on a good show all year, even in the slumps. Well, it wasn't as fun as watching them win of course but it was still fun to watch.

Plate umpire was incredibly unfair to Oliver, though, calling obvious strikes balls and then calling pitches that were further out strikes for Suppan. I guess I can find anything to gripe about if I want.

The size of the strike zone does seem to vary during the game with some umpires, and almost always seems to vary in a way that favours the home team... ...on the other hand, Oliver did pretty well nonetheless. If the Mets turn this around, then him resting the bullpen after their protracted outing in game 2 could be pretty significant.

Cards bullpen finally implodes as it has done throughout August and September. Sigh. I suppose it had to happen eventually. Really hoped to win this one, as I don't think Perez is half the pitcher he used to be. Ah well. Quite a good series so far.

It's possible the Mets could start someone in Game 7 that has NEVER STARTED A GAME BEFORE.

With that said, Tigers in 5. Whoever it is doesn't matter anymore, Tigers in 5 :p

Who would that be? Mota? :confused:

Darren Oliver was a starter for most of his career, if that's what you're thinking.

Then ESPN has lied to me once again, the ho's. Either way, it's not looking pretty.

This game is killing me. I have to be up in 2.5 hours, and I haven't managed to go to bed yet.

We've had 2 or 3 chances to bust it open, but it's still just a two run lead. I hope that's enough.....

Yessssss......

(Time for bed now....)

Nooooo......

(Time for bed now....)

Much kudos to Weaver. He really looked terrible in his first couple of games for the Cards, and frankly, he always worries me (only one straight 3 up, 3 down inning last night, for example). But you've got to say he's delivered for the Cards in September and October. He's not a Carpenter or a Santana, and never will be, but he's been just about good enough for a playoff rotation spot.

you're a trooper Lambert for staying up like that :) is it broadcasted on TV over there or are you propping up the AM radio antenna searching for that drifting signal? :lol:

i also heard last night that the Mets will maybe go to D Oliver if a game 7 is in the works. whew - now that's a rag-arm if i ever saw one!

i thought Glavine pitched ok last night but not good enough i guess. Weaver is amazing. dude always had good stuff but had some real tough luck this year.

It seemed to me that Glavine wasn't getting those borderline pitches that he
(and Maddox) usually get, thus putting him behind in the count in several
instances. Tigers do look like the bully (like White Sox) this yr :scan: .

It seemed to me that Glavine wasn't getting those borderline pitches that he
(and Maddox) usually get, thus putting him behind in the count in several
instances. Tigers do look like the bully (like White Sox) this yr :scan: .
yup. nibbler extraordinaires that they are :)

the Mets have quite a task on their hands now w/ Carpenter going tonight. the Tigers look really hard to beat though. don't they? stranger things have happened though...

I think, for the Mets, it will be the entire pitching staff for two games. We know that Maine will at most give us five innings, he's pretty much a long reliever. Then we use Bradford and Feliciano to get out of jams, Heilman and Mota to take innings, and Wagner for any crucial one inning.

As for Carpenter, the Mets have to hope that they get to him early, since he's such a great pitcher, and the Cards' bullpen has been really tough this series. (Where did Kinney get such a curveball? He came from out of nowhere...)

Seems like the Mets' hopes rely on Beltran and Delgado smashing up Carpenter- if not I don't see them making it. Most likely the Cards
will be able to score some runs, so if the Mets can match them it
may be a dogfight :cool: .

Meet the Mets,
Meet the Mets,
Come on out and Greet the Mets!

It's sad that they're going to lose.

Isn't it "step right up and greet the Mets"? :hmm:

Okay, Mets survive. Wagner's looking shaky, but that's okay. When he gets an even-numbered lead that's not 2, he isn't that good. Oliver Perez starts tomorrow on short rest... which is crazy when you think about it. Starting on short rest is for the Clemenses and Becketts. Not for some 3-13 pitcher.

Who knows, though. We have the other Oliver as a backup. :)

Couldn't stay up for that one :( I wonder if they need me watching ? After all, in game 2, I got up in the middle of the night to catch the rally which evened the game in the 7th. And game 5 I watched all of. But I also watched when our bullpen imploded. Hmm. I always have this nonsensical belief that the team I support performs differently (and better) if I watch them, regardless of sport.

So I will have to watch tonight, but this is completely wrecking my sleeping patterns.

El J, a few games are on TV, but, for the most part, I watch over the PC via the MLB TV broadcast. It does mean I have to put up the Met loving threesome that Fox uses for a commentary team, but otherwise it's not too bad. $30 for any & all games in September and October.

Maine did very well last night from what I can tell. As regards Glavine and the calls he sometimes gets, dg, I just don't get it. Why do umpires think that age and experience allows these guys a much bigger strike zone ? Or are they just so easily conned ?

I dunno, the Astros always seem to implode when I watch them :(

I picked the Mets, but I don't see how in the world they are going to win with Oliver starting on short rest...

Couldn't stay up for that one :( I wonder if they need me watching ? After all, in game 2, I got up in the middle of the night to catch the rally which evened the game in the 7th. And game 5 I watched all of. But I also watched when our bullpen imploded. Hmm. I always have this nonsensical belief that the team I support performs differently (and better) if I watch them, regardless of sport.

So I will have to watch tonight, but this is completely wrecking my sleeping patterns.

El J, a few games are on TV, but, for the most part, I watch over the PC via the MLB TV broadcast. It does mean I have to put up the Met loving threesome that Fox uses for a commentary team, but otherwise it's not too bad. $30 for any & all games in September and October.

Maine did very well last night from what I can tell. As regards Glavine and the calls he sometimes gets, dg, I just don't get it. Why do umpires think that age and experience allows these guys a much bigger strike zone ? Or are they just so easily conned ?

You got to watch tonight LS ;) . Maine was awesome :goodjob: .
As far as Glavine and Maddox, I think it is mostly reputation (I don't like it either) and the fact that they were always around the plate- some umps give
it and a few others don't. When the ump tightens the strike zone with them,
they usually get pummeled... I guess you would call them 'crafty' pitchers :D .

thanks for the info Lambert :)

maine did indeed pitch well last night. carpenter pitched great, too.

as for the 'nibbler' aspect of glavine etc...i saw a thing on fox the other day w/ glavine and he was saying how he feels that the strike zone has evolved over the years and that when he first came up the the bigs in '88 (oy! i clearly remember his rookie year too!) that the umpires would give pitchers the calls when the pitches were on the east/west edges as opposed to what he feels they are at now (north/south). i guess i agree...i mean, i think i've seen less of those crazy strike calls ont he far, far corners of the plate. that Questec (or whatever its name is) thing that judges umpire efficiency probably had alot to do w/ that.

glavine, to his credit, noted that he adapted by pitching inside more. and iirc, dude is on the verge of 300 wins. very impressive in today's day and age w/ all of those bull pen specialists and 5 man rotations :)

btw - what in the world has gone wrong w/ rolen? :confused: his bat seems slower than molasses in january :p

btw - what in the world has gone wrong w/ rolen? :confused: his bat seems slower than molasses in january :p

He sucks right now, and it seems the Card fans have had a belly full of him
too :eek: . He did pretty good for my fantasy team this year, but I can't
stand him (much like Wagner now) :mad: and of course J.DamnDrew. He must
have really tore up his shoulder before, and things are not completely right,
because no doubt the guy plays hard and can play very good.

he looked to me like a liability out there. that is definitely not the rolen i saw come up w/ the phils...and he still has that God-awful scowl. lighten up already! you're in "baseball heaven" after all :p

Rolen is in a sulk because whe was dropped for game 2 in favour of Spiezio. Allegedly he hasn't spoken to TLR since. Shame if they can't sort this out - if he recovers fully, I think he can still be a hell of a player. As regards the crowd reaction, Cardinals fans, in my experience, do not like anyone who thinks they're bigger than the team. Thus JD Drew is reviled, but Pujols is granted demi-god status.

Right at the moment, though, Rolen just doesn't look good with a bat in his hands. He still provides some very sound defence, so good for the late innings if we're ahead, but, to try to get that lead, I'd think Skidmarks is the better option.

I'd sit his butt again if he didn't want to talk to me as coach :mad: . I can't
see him staying at this point, if they are not speaking and he has lost favor
with those great fans.

they're getting quite a kick out of rolen's sulking in the Philly press. he pulled that w/ Bowa before he pouted his way out of town.

anyway - i still stand by my assertion i made some time ago that i think Rolen is (or at least was) the best fielding 3B i'd ever seen...ever. and i watched Schmidt play for the second half of his career.

PS-one article i read last weekend was by a Philly scribe who interviewed rolen. he was aksed about the riff w/ la russa and he played it down. he was then asked if he'd ever consider a move back to philly since the phloppin's are in need of a 3B. the columnist remarked that rolen responded w/ a look of "shock and amusement" that he was still under contract, blah, blah, blah...

YEEEEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Omg. That was an amazing amazing game.I could hardly breathe in the bottom of the 9th.

Good god. Wainwright loading the bases in the 9th so he can finish off the game with striking out Beltran ? My heart rate is insane at the moment.

Great pitching by Supp. Stunnng catch by Chavez. I cannot believe the Cards are going to the World Series.

If anyone ever asks me again why I love this game, then it's this moment I'll think of.

Good god. Wainwright loading the bases in the 9th so he can finish off the game with striking out Beltran ? My heart rate is insane at the moment.

Great pitching by Supp. Stunnng catch by Chavez. I cannot believe the Cards are going to the World Series.

If anyone ever asks me again why I love this game, then it's this moment I'll think of.

We're going to the world Series Lambert!

Cardinals Are Going Back to the World Series!

Amazing. Watching the bottom of the 9th, I kept thinking "Get 'em out before the rain delay."

2/6 predicting record. :ack:

I predict St. Louis for the WS.

:cry:

To be honest, I expected Beltran to walk. Valentin striking out earlier with the bases loaded was big. Wainwright looked like he was getting really nervous and had his mechanics all out of whack every other pitch (except to Beltran).

Oh well, at least I got both LCS predictions right... :(

2/6 predicting record. :ack:

I predict St. Louis for the WS.
That'll make Lambert happy...

That'll make Lambert happy...

I just picked the opposite of who I first picked. Considering how poorly I've done at guessing, odds are my first guess is wrong. :p

2/6 predicting record. :ack:

I predict St. Louis for the WS.

You better be right! Wouldn't it be something for the Cards to win it in the first year of Busch Stadium III?

You better be right! Wouldn't it be something for the Cards to win it in the first year of Busch Stadium III?

Well, considering my track record so far in the playoffs, I certainly wouldn't bet any money on it. ;)

I'm sitting on a proud 0-6 post-season prediction record. So it's probably no surprise that, without any need for extensive analysis of the two teams strengths and weaknesses, I can confidently predict Tigers to win the World Series!

(Let me be wrong again, please)

that was one exciting game last night.

my question though is why in the world did beltran not swing at that last pitch?! wtf was he thinking?! if i was a mets fan, i'd be pretty p-o'd this morning. i mean - it's baseball 101 to protect the plate w/ 2 strikes! awful, awful work by the normaly excellent carlos beltran.

PS-looks like we're gonna see that ole Rolen scowl for another week or 2 :) nice throwing error there, too :rolleyes:

that was one exciting game last night.

my question though is why in the world did beltran not swing at that last pitch?! wtf was he thinking?! if i was a mets fan, i'd be pretty p-o'd this morning. i mean - it's baseball 101 to protect the plate w/ 2 strikes! awful, awful work by the normaly excellent carlos beltran.

PS-looks like we're gonna see that ole Rolen scowl for another week or 2 :) nice throwing error there, too :rolleyes:

Great game, fun to watch if you didn't really care who won :mischief: . I was
tickled to see Rolen getting robbed, making that horrible error and then Super-Beltran getting K'ed to end the Mets' season. I was thinking Rolen was
done with/in StLouis, then he gets a hit and scores on Molina's shot. It was
a shame too that the Mets didn't have their 'best' team available- I know injuries are a giant part of the game, but still :sad: . Maine was awesome- a
sign of great times ahead for him. Wainwright was clutch for the Cards- bye
bye Issi ;) . I just don't see how the Cards can beat the Tigers :scan: , so
they probably will :crazyeye: ... should be more fun :D .

I think we've still got Izzy under contract next year, so we're paying for him whether he's closing or not.

Interesting point on the injuries - Pedro and El Duque are obviously key players, and Floyd as well. Flip side is that Floyd wouldn't have made the catch that Endy did. Maine filled in brilliantly, and Perez pitched well in both his games. I'm not sure it was the substitutes which didn't perform for the Mets, but rather some of the bigger names (Lo Duca ? Wright ? Wagner ?) whose performance was short of what was needed to swing the series in the Mets' favour.

I wonder if the Cards having their injury problems earlier helped ? I mean, losing Mulder and Izzy I think is pretty much equivalent to losing Pedro and El Duque - but while the Cards struggled in August and September as they tried to live without them, they eventually found a way through and were a bit (though not a lot) more comfortable about their post-season rotation and bullpen.

Rolen's name was mud in the St Louis MLB chatroom after the error, but that was a great AB he managed in the top of the 9th. And Supp made numerous positive references to Rolen in his post-game interview. Maybe he'll still be around next year after all....

Supp, on the other hand, will be out of contract, I think. If so, I wonder if we'll meet his expectations after the second half and post-season he's had ?

You are probably right LS, I think it was more of the psychi of losing Pedro
and El D, not the actual play of the substitutes. The Cards recovered nicely
from their problems with the earlier injuries. Suppan was awesome :goodjob:
didn't he even out-hit Molina in the regular season as far as average? :scan:
I think maybe Wright had (Abreu itis) after the All Star break and Home Run
Derby, good thing Howard didn't have that problem for my fantasy team.

my question though is why in the world did beltran not swing at that last pitch?! wtf was he thinking?! if i was a mets fan, i'd be pretty p-o'd this morning. i mean - it's baseball 101 to protect the plate w/ 2 strikes! awful, awful work by the normaly excellent carlos beltran.I love Beltran's approach at the plate. He always takes that pitch, and 90% of the time, it's a ball. He has show an unusually good eye all year and will work the count by taking those pitches a little off the plate. I haven't seen the replay yet, but I think Beltran saw the ball as a ball, but instead of having the 12-6 action that Wainwright's curve usually has, it did more of a 1-7.

I love Beltran's approach at the plate. He always takes that pitch, and 90% of the time, it's a ball. He has show an unusually good eye all year and will work the count by taking those pitches a little off the plate. I haven't seen the replay yet, but I think Beltran saw the ball as a ball, but instead of having the 12-6 action that Wainwright's curve usually has, it did more of a 1-7.
i definitely give him the benefit of the doubt regarding his eye. no question...but he looked befuddled on that last pitch. i mean, i thought he'd be more aggressive at least...game 7 and all.

in all fairness though - it was or at least appeared to be a borderline strike. but you should remember that i'm a phils fan. so seeing the mets go down is right near watching the dallas cowboys lose :p

it would've been a completely different series though had pedro and el duque been in there. i think they'd have given the tigers a run for their money if that was the case. so from a pure baseball standpoint, it sucked that NY wasn't able to put their best out there...but you always have next year. :)

...but you always have next year. :)

No they won't, the Nationals will be there. :p

JK, maybe by 2020.:mischief:

what pained me the most i think while watching the NLCS was that i truly felt that the phils could've given the mets more to handle than StL did. w/ all due respect to StL and her fans, i just think that the phils were better (or at least healthier). i mean, had utley or howard or someone else had gotten hot in oct, the phils would've been real tough. alas - i digress and wander back to my oh so familiar place of NO PLAYOFFS FOR JUSTO :)

what pained me the most i think while watching the NLCS was that i truly felt that the phils could've given the mets more to handle than StL did. w/ all due respect to StL and her fans, i just think that the phils were better (or at least healthier).

Err, that's justified if we've just been swept by the Mets, and didn't put up much of a fight. But, unless I'm suffering from a massive whisky based, sleep deprivation driven delusion (and I admit, that is a possibility), then we actually not only gave the Mets as much as they could handle, but we managed to give them a bit more. Hell, we won! (Didn't we ? If we didn't, please don't give me any medication to bring me out of this...)

So are you saying that the Phils would have beaten the Mets in 6 or 5 games ? Whatever....

Maybe the Phils were a better team. We could argue that Howard always looked good without runners on, and blows when the going gets tough, but he and Utley and still hellishly good ballplayers. But don't you worry that you're just running the risk of appearing like the "Cubs fan in the tree" in that Tommy Lasorda advert ? C'mon, the Phils were great. They didn't make it. Get over it.

;)

I noticed that the papers are now hyping which matchup to focus on, from either the '34 or the '68 series', depending on sympathies. Just thought it was amusing how they focus like that.

The series should be real fun to watch. The long rested winners versus the pumped up down to the wire winners. If the Tigers bats keep up the heat, I don't see Cardinals pulling it off.

Can't wait 'till tomorrow! Ooh, it gonna be fun.

I have to agree with El Justo, the Phillies pitching staff was healthy, and their line-up is not far behind in menace from the Mets. I would say Phils in 7.

Wouldn't it be something if the Cardinals went through and won the World Series? The team with the WORST regular season (of playoff teams) winning.

Although, I really doubt we can beat Detroit. Of course, I didn't think we were going to beat the Mets either.

i definitely give him the benefit of the doubt regarding his eye. no question...but he looked befuddled on that last pitch. i mean, i thought he'd be more aggressive at least...game 7 and all.Beltran's bad year last year, IMO, was because he was too aggressive and ended up swinging at those low pitches, so maybe he trained himself to lay off all pitches in that general area... :hmm:in all fairness though - it was or at least appeared to be a borderline strike. but you should remember that i'm a phils fan. so seeing the mets go down is right near watching the dallas cowboys lose :pI'm sure it didn't appear that way to Beltran. :pit would've been a completely different series though had pedro and el duque been in there. i think they'd have given the tigers a run for their money if that was the case. so from a pure baseball standpoint, it sucked that NY wasn't able to put their best out there...but you always have next year. :)Mmhmm. El Duque was a huge hit. And catching Trachsel and Wagner at their absolute worst of the year at the most inopportune time.

There's no World Series this year, so there'll be no prediction from me. ;)

I'm with Tomoyo re: Beltran actually. Anyone who has had that much success has the right to go with his gut feel for each and every pitch. Yup, if he leaves the last pitch that the Mets see this season, he's going to get second guessed, and yeah, he should have fouled it off. But if I'm a Mets fan, I'm glad he's at the plate for that at bat, and I'd probably trust his judgement, even if it means leaving or swinging at pitches which look dumb after the event.

I guess I'm just glad his judgement on that 3rd strike was wrong :)

I was actually just thinking "get it to Beltran" that inning. :crazyeye:

You know, neither team should have been devestated, considering they are like the team that plays the Harlem Globetrotters now :p

Game 1 is just all Anthony Reyes. Great game for him.

National League win a game in the World Series! More importantly, Cardinals win a game in the World Series!

Game 1 is just all Anthony Reyes. Great game for him.

National League win a game in the World Series! More importantly, Cardinals win a game in the World Series!

Even more importantly, Cardinals win Game one with their worst start pitcher. Might be a chance for us after all.

Even more importantly, Cardinals win Game one with their worst start pitcher. Might be a chance for us after all.

Yessir! We still have Weaver, Suppan, and Carpenter.

USA Today said we would lose this series in 3 games.

I hope it tastes good.

USA Today said we would lose this series in 3 games.

I hope it tastes good.

:lol: :lol:

Btw, it's only one game. Don't make me remind you what the Tigers did to a much better NYY team after dropping the first game.

Btw, it's only one game. Don't make me remind you what the Tigers did to a much better NYY team after dropping the first game.

Sure. I still think our chances are worse than even. But there's only so much you can take from ESPN, Joe Buck, Fox, etc about how bad the Cardinals are. Maybe, just maybe, after the Padres and the Mets, I thought they might start to acknowledge that we're a better team than they thought. But I think we'll need another 2 wins in the WS before we get that.

Weaver away, Carp and Supp at home. We've got a pretty good shot at being 3-1, or at least 2-2 after 4 games. Of course, I'd settle for an anti-climactic 4 game sweep :mischief:

The Cardinals are not THAT bad, it's just if they won it might be the biggest upset in World Series history :p

They were also something like three games above .500 in the regular season. :shake:

As of now, they're only seven games above.

They were also something like three games above .500 in the regular season.

True, true.

As of now, they're only seven games above.

Only seven games above and National League Champions.... :king:

They were also something like three games above .500 in the regular season. :shake:

As of now, they're only seven games above.

That's how we roll over here.

Didn't expect us eh? Surprise attack!

Only seven games above and National League Champions.... :king:That's what we call "great timing", and as we all know, "great timing" in sports is just another way to say "lucky". :p

I probably sound like a sore loser (which is almost a palindrome), but I'm actually pulling for the Cards in the World Series.

Lucky ? I dunno. I thought the Mets and Cards were pretty equally matched throughout the NLCS, and either would have been a worthy champion. St Louis didn't look to me like a significantly inferior team catching all of the breaks. Same, but more so with the Padres - I think the Cardinals were clearly the better team.

If we were lucky, it was that the Astros didn't get it together in the first half of the season. Arguably, if they had, it would be them and not the Cards in the World Series.

Unless you want to put the National league back into two divisions (or maybe even one, and actually, I'd be pretty content with that idea) and significantly cut back on the playoffs, then I think St Louis is a valid champion, and as good as anything else the National League has to offer. Is that good enough to tackle the best of the American League ? Quite honestly, I don't know.

Glad you're rooting for us though :)

You were lucky in the sense that you got hot at the right time. ;)

Now that was some damn fine baseball: a fantastic effort by Rogers, and a spirited showing from the Cardinals in the ninth. I would have wished for a grander finish-- a groundout with bases loaded is always a let-down-- but still a pretty exciting rally. (My sympathies, Lambert, now you're probably all worked up without even a win to show for it.)

You were lucky in the sense that you got hot at the right time. ;)

Quite possibly. Just to correct things, though, St Louis were 5 (not 3) games above .500. I think the fact Izzy kept trying to pitch through his injury hurt us more than anyone actually being absent - he had 10 blown saves this season, and while I don't believe we would have won all of those if he had just gone on the DL earlier, that's the difference right there between an 83 win season and a 90 win season (which I feel is more the level the Cards are - not as good as the Mets, or the top teams from the AL, but a decent team nonetheless).

Taliesin - I couldn't watch last night's game - 1am to 5am night after night plays havoc with my body. I'm not young, and I have to get up for work at 6.30am :( Thus I have to ration myself, save myself for key games as it were. I'm convinced they play better if I'm watching you know, so I'm afraid I had to sac Weaver to allow me to concentrate on Carp and Supp the next couple of nights.

Is there any way you could possibly sleep at ~7:00PM your time and get up at 1:00AM?

you're a trooper Lambert. and the baseball gods are smiling upon you :) i promise!

ESPN is making quite a big deal abour Roger's hand.

I do not know what Pine Tar does but, MAKE THEM FORFEIT!

What a fantastic game by Rogers last night, the whole post season in fact, and before anyone says anything about the pine tar, how do you explain innings 2 - 8? When he pitched even better than the 1st inning? Larussa did not make a stink about it, because he knows a lot of pitchers do it, including some of his own guys. After the game, when the players were in the showers it was over heard, apparently the visitors showers is situated where you can hear what is being said in it from one of the press rooms, and one of the radio hosts here heard the St.Louis players talking about it, saying that Larussa would not make a fuss about it, because a few of the St. Louis pitchers use pine tar as well.

I have to say it was nice to see Weaver lose. He was such a prick when he left here, and implied that he was to good for this organization, and would never play here again. How does it feelt o lose to the team you were to good for in the World Series, Weav? eh? eh?


It is shaping up to be a great series, and I would guess it will go a minimum of 6 games.

http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2006/1023/mlb_rogers_hands_412.jpg

The picture on the left is from Game 3 of the ALCS, and the one on the right is from last night...

He must not wash that part of his hand. :rolleyes:

Had he not done that, who knows how many we could have scored in the first inning.

Pine tar- simple as that :mischief: .

Well, if it's pine tar, and the umpires detect it, then he should have been ejected. I was tending to give him the benefit of the doubt, but the same mark in the ALCS game makes me much more suspicious. Hey ho, that's the way it goes sometimes.

Tomoyo - that's a pretty reasonable idea, but tonight, for example, I got home from work at 8pm, have just got the kids off to bed, and have still to eat. Bed before 10pm is unnatural, anyway ;)

Well let's just say the bet is that his hand will be sparkling clean next game :mischief: .

Well let's just say the bet is that his hand will be sparkling clean next game :mischief: .

I would hope so. He actually played better without that stuff on his hand.

I would hope so. He actually played better without that stuff on his hand.

Yeah, but he shouldn't have been allowed to :mischief: .

How dumb do you have to be to get caught with brown goo, though.

I heard a commentator on Rogers Sportsnet claim that this kind of doctoring is fairly common, and the reason why LaRussa didn't make a big fuss of it is because many Cardinals pitchers do it/have done it, and Leyland knows about them from his time with St. Louis.

Carpenter back to his best. Cardinals lead 2-1 :goodjob:

Carpenter back to his best. Cardinals lead 2-1 :goodjob:

Best birthday present ever.

Rolen is doing his best to get back in favour with the St Louis fans...

"The fans here are incredible," St Louis third baseman Scott Rolen told reporters after the Cardinals moved to within two games of victory in the best-of-seven series. "This is a real baseball city and it's a great place to play because of that."

Order of the Brown Nose, perhaps....

To be fair, I think he's broadly right (though sometimes I think the Cards fans let themselves get taken out of the game too easily), but I can't help but question his motives in making the statement. Shame on me...:)

Eckstein comes up big, and all of the breaks go our way. One to go. I can hardly believe it... (crosses fingers, toes, and all other appendages)

Just out of interest, are the Tigers typical of the standard of fielding in the American League ? :mischief:

heh - that was some brutal center fielding there...

StL is really seizing the momentum. it'd be nice i think to see the Natl Lg finally win the dang thing!

heh - that was some brutal center fielding there...

StL is really seizing the momentum. it'd be nice i think to see the Natl Lg finally win the dang thing!

Left Field and the Pitchers aren't fielding so well either :mischief: . I don't
like either team, but for some reason I keep leaning to the Cards. Looks like
both teams seem to be struggling with their hitting--- of course it has been
cold and wet, not the best of hitting situations.

After all of the crap about the American League being so much better (even during the NLCS, I read a commentary about how the Mets and Cardinals are just competing for second place). It'll be nice to prove them all wrong.

We are in the world series.. we did it fairly and I believe we've earned our right to be here. So far we've done the NLSC and the world series (for the most part) without Pujols hitting much. So, yes... we actually have OTHER batters than Albert Pujols.

It's nice to finally have the entire team (well.. for the most part) uninjured and playing. We really missed Eckstain and Edmonds that last month of the regular season.

And the Cards just won. :trophy:

And I finish with a 3 for 7 record for predicting the playoff matchups this year.

OMG! I forgot the game was on, I didn't watch it, and now, it's over. :cry:

Congrats, St. Louis and their fans!

Makes my Mets look a little better...

YEEEESSSSS!!!!!

Where on earth did Weaver get that pitching performance from ?

The Guillen - Eckstein single summed up the Series - should have been an out, but Guillen hesitates, and Eckstein just hustles enough to make him pay for it. Weird, the Tigers looked like the team they were in August & September, and not the one that showed up in the AL playoffs. The Cards played like they did in May, and seemed to forget completely their August and September.

As a series, this was almost an anti-climax after the nail-biting nature of the NLCS. On the other hand, it's hard to describe winning the World Series as anything other than awesome...

If you only knew all the love that I found.

I Love the St. Louis Cardinals!

As a series, this was almost an anti-climax after the nail-biting nature of the NLCS. On the other hand, it's hard to describe winning the World Series as anything other than awesome...It seems that the last few world series have been anti-climactic. The last entertaining world series was the 2002 world series. LCSs have been very good the past few years, though.

Although the Cards never really looked like the best team all year... I wouldn't
have bet anything on them winning everything... they proved they were the
best all around TEAM. Not much power at all in the Series- mostly hustle (Eck) good pitching (Weaver, Carpenter, Suppan) and all the chips falling in
just the right place. Congrats to you Cardinal fans, you deserve to celebrate
a great year.