If your name is RegentMan, please exit the thread. Well, in reality, it doesn't matter if you look, since you don't have a chance of wining. :D



I am Ginger_Ale, leader of the Spanish. Our glorious nation's history starts at 4000 BC, when our capital city of Madrid was founded, starting production on a warrior (15 turns) and research on Agriculture (7). My plans for research include the worker/city development techs, for roading, pastures, cottages, etc. I have a cow resource I'd like to utilize, as well as a nice flood plain tile and some hills and forests. Looks pretty nice compared to RegentMan's start! The RNG likes me better. :)

Some screenies (click to expand):

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9582/fullstartza7.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fullstartza7.jpg)
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/800/flyingcameraar1.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flyingcameraar1.jpg)
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4155/terrainqf1.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=terrainqf1.jpg)

note: My screenshots, when I show pictures of the map, will have city text, population, and builds show up as blue highlights, meaning I can't read his city names, population, and religions, and other stuff. It's due to my graphics card. If you'd like to fix this, consider giving me money to get a new one. :p


Comments welcome (since I'm such a newbie)!

Nice start :) but why have you gone for agriculture? if your aiming for AH-hunting is the cheaper pre req :)

Yeah, but I'd rather have the ability to build farms as well, especially since I have a floodplain there. Hunting won't do me much good this early, but I'll be sure to pick it up.

Looking at that screenie i shove a cottage down on that floodplain and not a farm :) you've got enough food :)

Looking at that screenie i shove a cottage down on that floodplain and not a farm :) you've got enough food :)

But looking at the second screenshot the warrior is eating the bread:lol:

i have to agree with BC, unless your really struggling for food a cottage on the flood plain is the way to go

Good luck, GA :)!

I agree that the floodplain would probably be best cottaged. I also would have gone for hunting: it allows you to build scouts and gives you access to archers if you find yourself without resources. On the other hand, agriculture is hardly a bad tech to pickup, of course.

Okay, I suppose wasting one turn's research won't be that bad, since I'm going to grow faster than RM anyway with the flooplain.


Nice 7,000th post Gogf! :)

Okay, I suppose wasting one turn's research won't be that bad, since I'm going to grow faster than RM anyway with the flooplain.


Nice 7,000th post Gogf! :)


The research wont be wasted, the beakers done will stay there

note: My screenshots, when I show pictures of the map, will have city text, population, and builds show up as blue highlights, meaning I can't read his city names, population, and religions, and other stuff. It's due to my graphics card. If you'd like to fix this, consider giving me money to get a new one.

Do you have all settings on lowest?

No, but I have a nVIDIA GeForce 2 MX 400, which speaks for itself about its crapiness.


In other news, woohoo :D, more cows and some silver! And a screenshot, because I know you guys like them a lot more than just some text.
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2084/morecowszj5.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=morecowszj5.jpg)

pictures are good:) thought of a name yet?

No, but I have a nVIDIA GeForce 2 MX 400, which speaks for itself about its crapiness.



Thats the exact same one i had but i never had a problem with the writing, still it was very crappy so you have my sympathies

Interesting - however, you probably had the latest drivers (because there was a thread in the Bugs forum where someone else had the same card and same problem, and he downloaded the drivers and it worked fine then), but when I tried to update the drivers it nearly killed my PC (lucky I got to reboot using system restore). My previous experiences with drivers aren't that good.

I was able to update the drivers but it still wasn't that great. If you look through some of my spoilers in the aloha thread you can see the difference between the old and new graphics card.

Also RM has more post because he is posting screenies

Wait, so you never had blue text even before you updated drivers? Interesting, I'll look into it.

No i didn't, but like i said it was nothing special, even with the new drivers it had issues. The new graphics card in the other hand is brilliant

do you still play with all the graphics on low robi?

I play on medium. I still kept the single unit graphic because i guess i got used to them. I could play on high without problems, but i like my big maps and i don't want it to go to slow later in the game.

I will say even on low the graphics looked better then on the old card

yup ive noticed the change in your screenies in aloha to a couple of spoilers, was just curious :)

cant get above standard and even then its a struggle at points :(

Lots of resources. Need I say more?
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/655/lotsaresourceskb4.th.jpg (http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lotsaresourceskb4.jpg)

By the way, the two X's I drew on the screen are proposed city locations. Any comments? I'm trying to make use of the cows, silver, wheat, gems, and dyes. :D

The wheat+cow site looks great. You should explore the north some more and try to get a food resource in with the luxuries.

How do you plan to get border expansion? Religion? Obelisks?

I agree with dave, try to explore the northern site more as you might get a better location, otherwise it all good

I'd prefer 2 gems over 2 dyes, as they give cash before calendar.

Can you say 3 luxury resources?

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2142/gemssugarspicevq3.th.jpg (http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gemssugarspicevq3.jpg)


I'm still exploring up there, so I'll see if there's a good spot to found my city. There's also an additional dyes there (total of 3).

Did you do something special to get beige interface backgrounds, or did it just happen that way? If it just happened, anything odd about your civ installation? If you did something, what? I doubt it has anything to do with the weird text problem, just curious right now. ;)

No, I was just testing a downloaded tan interface. My civ installation is doing fine, thank you very much. :p

My warrior is still exploring up north, so I'll let you know what he finds. My city also grew to size 2! Any complaints about building a worker next after my warrior finishes?

Depending on what is above the Gems I see the potential for 2 cities there (one for the gems it would be my city #3 after the cow / wheat) and a fourth city to be founded with the dye / sugar because by then you should have calendar!

I saw a hut as I was exploring up north...I popped it, and:

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7926/freeagriculturemh7.jpg

I also spotted a barbarian lion, but my capital finishes the warrior in 2 turns I think, so I'm ok. Here's a picture of that, as well as some of the terrain by those dyes (so far no food resources) - I love flying camera mode. :D

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2313/lionjq1.jpg

Animals dont enter cultural borders anyway. Well done on the agricultural discovery ;)

WE HAVE MET!

http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/4720/contactdk0.jpg

Here's the the hope that RM moves his scout within 1 tile of my warrior and I can take him out for XP. :beer:

I attacked RM's scout...


...and lost. :(

I didn't want him to know where my capital was, but oh well. I produced a warrior anyway that turn and am going to build a scout (7 turns) to explore. It's not like my warrior was exploring quite fast anyway. A worker would've taken too long (12 turns) for my liking, so I'll let the city grow to size 3 first.

Lemme guess... the scout was in a forest hill across the river?

:D

Well it was 50/50...

Good news: RM's scout is only .1/1, so if he moves into a tile by my warrior, he's dead basically.

Better Awesome news: I have horses. :worship:

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/654/horsesct7.jpg

wheel + worker -> chariot rush?

Well that could be one possibility, But I think it was more for the Unique Unit ;)

Hey GA, how come you're working that plain NE of your capital? Just curious :D

Good luck GA. Tis a shame you are not keeping spoilers @ CDZ anymore :cry:

Hey GA, how come you're working that plain NE of your capital? Just curious :D
Nevermind, been pointed out that your little horsies just popped up. My apologies :goodjob:

Perhaps a chariot rush, first I'd like to see where RM is with my scout...

Paal: Yeah, I know. If this was a regular old PBEM, I'd do a spoiler at CDZ, but since it's mainly for the entertainment of these MTDG folks, I'm doing it here. :)

Update: RM moved his scout into my lands to explore, he was attacked by a lion, nearly killed, but not quite. I finished the job and got 1 XP. I'll post some screenies once I finish my scout (1 turn) and explore.

My scout is exploring and met Peter's scout north of my capital. I also found some stone near the gems, to the north. Current proposed city locations:
Between the wheat and cow (there is silver 2S of the cow) SW of the stone

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/2062/peterfo6.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9781/zoomedoutrc2.jpg

Gems and stone in 1 city, looking good GA:)

maybe move the scout towards the coast to see if theres any sea resources?

I have found Peter's territory, which is to the NW of me. I've been scouting around the northern lands, and will post a screenshot next turn...

Also met Tokugawa, as well as one of RM's scouting warriors. As promised, the screenshot (my lands are in the very bottom right of this) -- what's the shortcut to get rid of all the bottom and top bars? I can't seem to remember...

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/4991/civ4screenshot0023hz0.th.jpg (http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=civ4screenshot0023hz0.jpg)

Any ideas for placing cities in the north?

Control-i removes the minimap and HUD.

You definitely want to build on a hill whenever possible.

one near the dyes, one near the gems and stone and if you can put one on that desert patch to grab them 2 calendar resources, cows and corn you've got your GP farm right there

Is 3 tile spacing too close or will it work out okay?

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7905/helppykz4.jpg

is how id settle....

I was just wondering, if, like Dave said, it would be better to settle on the hill by the dyes, but whatever - there's enough dyes to go around.

State of the Empire, 2000 BC!

First off, I chopped the forest hill next to my capital, so that RM can't just park one of his units there if he attacks. Second, I'm going to found a city in about 3 turns, near the wheat, cows, and silver. My capital's currently building a granary to help with growth, and then I expect to build a few more units and a barracks as well as another settler soon. Screenshot of my current situation:

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8815/abouttofoundcityls3.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=abouttofoundcityls3.jpg)

So, are you guys still playing?

Yes, we're at 1160 BC. Basically I have a Woodsman II warrior scouting out his lands (he'll die soon), I have 3 cities, and am building the Oracle (just a few turns left). I'll post a screenshot later (I was going to write "soon", but then I would feel an obligation to update it quickly. :p).

what are you planning on getting with the oracle, CS?

Lots of updates... I have my own religion, I am doing pretty well in the demographics, #1 in score, I used a Great Artist down south to spread my culture around RM's cities, and oh yeah, I'm first in technology. :)

Screenshots ahoy!

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5842/civ4screenshot0000eu4.jpg

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/6867/civ4screenshot0001bv0.jpg

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1730/civ4screenshot0002vi3.jpg

When will you get conquistadors?