Already Midnight Madness and no threads? :wow:

Anyways, let's get ready to rumble. North Carolina is number 3 in the country, Greg Paulaus' foot is broken! :smug: :goodjob: :woohoo:

Let's go Tar Heels! Take us to the 'ship baby!

Greg Paulaus' foot is broken! :smug: :goodjob: :woohoo:


Duke was young enough to start with, last thing they needed :sad:

@ Al, I can't believe you are a Tarheel fan :eek: . Why not Virginia or Maryland? I'm a Deamon Deacon fan myself :mischief: (my father played football there). I've been to alot of NC State games too, so I go for them occaisionally ;) .

Maryland sucks, they're annoying, especially their fans. Virginia sucks, and I hate them.

I'm a North Carolina fan since my dad has raised me one.

Greg Paulaus is the new "ultimate dookie."

Maryland sucks, they're annoying, especially their fans. Virginia sucks, and I hate them.

I'm a North Carolina fan since my dad has raised me one.

Greg Paulaus is the new "ultimate dookie."

I thought I liked you :scan: , now I'm sure of it ;) :cool: .

I root for the underdog in the ACC games...they are always so fun to watch. So I guess that means alot of rooting for Duke/Maryland this year.

Texas basketball for me, of course I am really bad about following my team, so I'll tell you what I know after I see a few of thier games :p Probably a rebuilding year with Paulino & Aldridge gone, ohwell. Can't win every sport every year, hehehe.

Getting ready for some ACC action. :D I'm rooting for the BC Eagles ("hometown" equivalent) and Duke, I am just attracted to them. It'll be interesting to see how they fare this year, especially losing Redick, but I think more importantly Sheldon Williams. I've got to go see the rankings, if they're out now...

Duke, I am just attracted to them. It'll be interesting to see how they fare this year, especially losing Redick, but I think more importantly Sheldon Williams..

People tend to not realize how much Williams helped Reddick--all those double teams in the post meant a lot of open jumpers for Reddick.

OH god, all the Dookies. :sad: I'm going to go to go do a rosary for you guys.

I root for the underdog in the ACC games...they are always so fun to watch. So I guess that means alot of rooting for Duke/Maryland this year.

Texas basketball for me, of course I am really bad about following my team, so I'll tell you what I know after I see a few of thier games :p Probably a rebuilding year with Paulino & Aldridge gone, ohwell. Can't win every sport every year, hehehe.

Kevin Durant is going to be good, I saw him play High School ball and he'll be a canindate for Frosh of the Year, behind Tyson Lawson and other Heels.

Virginia sucks, and I hate them.

The horror!! :eek:

Can't argue about Duke, Maryland, or Maryland fans though.

This year should be intersting. Theoretically, we should be quite a bit better than last year. The thing is, we were a lot better than we should have been last year. So it remains to be seen whether last year was just a fluke, or that team was better than we all thought. In which case we have a real tourney shot, as long as the freshmen show up.

If you win one game over .500 in the ACC you'll get into the tournament...might be possible.

I've heard about Durant, I want to see him LIVE! When are the first games?

This year should be intersting. Theoretically, we should be quite a bit better than last year. The thing is, we were a lot better than we should have been last year. So it remains to be seen whether last year was just a fluke, or that team was better than we all thought. In which case we have a real tourney shot, as long as the freshmen show up.

Come on Shortguy, Virginia has had the same season 10 years in a row--let me walk you through it:

November--Virginia ranked and hopes high, go 10-0 beating up nobodies
December--Virginia rises as high as #15 before losing
Janunary--Virginia begins ACC plays and loses 9 of 10 games
Febuary--Virginia loses its last 4 games and in the first round of the ACC tourny and misses a NCAA bid and most years a NIT bid too. :mischief:

Florida will underachieve this year but put about five guys in the NBA draft.

Florida will underachieve this year but put about five guys in the NBA draft.

Florida WAS NOT the best team last year--they were the BEST TEAM in March ( when it counts ) so when they are only good but not great this year, your right people will be like "whats wrong with them "

Florida WAS NOT the best team last year--they were the BEST TEAM in March ( when it counts ) so when they are only good but not great this year, your right people will be like "whats wrong with them "

Exactly, the best team last year was Villanova, followed by Duke and Connecticut, and North Carolina of course!

Come on Shortguy, Virginia has had the same season 10 years in a row--let me walk you through it:

November--Virginia ranked and hopes high, go 10-0 beating up nobodies
December--Virginia rises as high as #15 before losing
Janunary--Virginia begins ACC plays and loses 9 of 10 games
Febuary--Virginia loses its last 4 games and in the first round of the ACC tourny and misses a NCAA bid and most years a NIT bid too. :mischief:

Um...? 10 years ago we were on the way down, then for Jeff Jones's last few years we were terrible, until 99ish when Gillen had a surprisingly good season followed by a good one (with an unfortunate loss to Gonzaga in the first round). The pattern you mention started then, and continued for 3-4 years until Gillen's last year, when the team was just simply bad. Then there was last year, where we were consistently good at home (Fordham excepted) but not so good away, and we won our first ACC tourny game but were embarassed NIT first round against Stanford.

So no, we haven't been having the same year for the last 10 years. Not even close, in fact.

Um...? 10 years ago we were on the way down, then for Jeff Jones's last few years we were terrible, until 99ish when Gillen had a surprisingly good season followed by a good one (with an unfortunate loss to Gonzaga in the first round). The pattern you mention started then, and continued for 3-4 years until Gillen's last year, when the team was just simply bad. Then there was last year, where we were consistently good at home (Fordham excepted) but not so good away, and we won our first ACC tourny game but were embarassed NIT first round against Stanford.

So no, we haven't been having the same year for the last 10 years. Not even close, in fact.

A GENERALIZE shortguy--chill ;) all those UVA football loses getting you down :lol:

PRESEASON Polls out:

1] Florida
2] North Carolina
3] Kansas
4] Ohio St ( too high with Oden out the first 2 months )
5] Pittsburgh
6] UCLA
7] LSU
8] Georgetown
9] Wisconsin
10] Arizona
11] Duke ( too high if Paulus misses half season )

North Carolina at 2? They'll be 1 before the end of the season, and at the end. :smug:

North Carolina at 2? They'll be 1 before the end of the season, and at the end. :smug:

Will this be like 1994? Carolina had everybody back from the national champions and added Rashed wallace and Jerry Stackhouse--lost first round, more talent, NOT a better team !

And on a good note--Kyle Singler, #4 rated player next year announces today he is attending DUKE :D

A GENERALIZE shortguy--chill ;) all those UVA football loses getting you down :lol:

Not as much as last year, actually. Nothing worse than beating the undefeated #4 team in the nation and then laying an egg against UNC of all people. I've accepted that we aren't going to be any good this year.

Will this be like 1994? Carolina had everybody back from the national champions and added Rashed wallace and Jerry Stackhouse--lost first round, more talent, NOT a better team !

I think you mean like 2005. :p Talented young team that added the final pieces to an already good team.

And in other news, Kyle Singler can go suck a ****. ;)

Kyle Singler can go suck a ****. ;)

He can do what ever he likes as long as he drops 20+ per night :D

Arizona Wildcat here. I like my kids this year. They'll be tough as usual with upperclassmen Marcus Williams, Mustafa Shakur, Jawann McClellan, Ivan Radenovic and freshmen Chase Budinger and Nic Wise. Budinger's blowing people away in Tucson and Lute is saying he's the best player to ever be recruited at AZ. :eek: The new Adam Morrison with hops?

Check this out...ESPN's top Bobby Knight out takes for those of you who have not seen it. Oh and btw he just kicked their top scorer off the team.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb5dScAa1yM

Go Bobby Knight, one more win for Texas :mischief:

Not a Illini fan Whomp? What's your attachment to Arizona? Go to college there?

Go Bobby Knight, one more win for Texas :mischief:

Not a Illini fan Whomp? What's your attachment to Arizona? Go to college there?
Yep I'm a Wildcat. Played a year of baseball there....then I found girls and lots of them! :lol:
The Illini put a stake in my heart two years ago and I was there....I hate them so much more now. :D

The Illini put a stake in my heart two years ago and I was there....I hate them so much more now. :D

Would that be when the University of North Carolina devestated them to win the National Championchip? :p

Would that be when the University of North Carolina devestated them to win the National Championchip? :p
That would be when we would've given the Tar Heels a much better game, yes. The same game that showed how we exposed their front line and UNC took care of business, yes.

Hate them...though I'll admit it was the single greatest sporting event I've ever been to. Wow.

Any love for the MAC?

*Runs and hides*

How can you say Florida wasn't the best team last year? They totally dominated the Tournament.

Obviously Florida has to be a clear favorite this year. Everybody is back off a dominating national championship team. Its possible they could get upset in the Tournament but by who? All the top contenders would be relying on freshman for the most part.

Plus Florida has by far the best front-line in NCAA.

How can you say Florida wasn't the best team last year? They totally dominated the Tournament.

Obviously Florida has to be a clear favorite this year. Everybody is back off a dominating national championship team. Its possible they could get upset in the Tournament but by who? All the top contenders would be relying on freshman for the most part.

Plus Florida has by far the best front-line in NCAA.
Florida is the odds on favorite. Scary good. However, we know that's likely their demise. BTW Arizona has all upper classmen in the starting 5.

Arizona Wildcat here. I like my kids this year. They'll be tough as usual with upperclassmen Marcus Williams, Mustafa Shakur, Jawann McClellan, Ivan Radenovic and freshmen Chase Budinger and Nic Wise. Budinger's blowing people away in Tucson and Lute is saying he's the best player to ever be recruited at AZ. :eek: The new Adam Morrison with hops?

Check this out...ESPN's top Bobby Knight out takes for those of you who have not seen it. Oh and btw he just kicked their top scorer off the team.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb5dScAa1yM

You guys will be opening up the new arena for us on the 12th.

Hopefully, it'll be a good game.

Hopefully, I'll be able to get in. (We haven't been close to selling out recently, but it is the first game of the season, the first in the new arena, and people are optimistic about the season).

That Arizona-Illinois game a few years ago was incredible...

Florida should win, but I can't remember the last repeat team in NCAA basketball. It's really really hard to do twice in a row, Noah or not.

I can't remember the last repeat team in NCAA basketball. It's really really hard to do twice in a row, Noah or not.

Duke 91-92

How can you say Florida wasn't the best team last year? They totally dominated the Tournament.


And Pittsburgh dominated the NFL playoffs after an average season--where are they now? Not saying Florida will sux, just saying its a lot harder to dominate for 6 months rather than 6 weeks.

I've never really been into basketball much, but seeing as it's my first year at UCLA, it would be wise of me to give it another chance. At this point I make an obligatory remark about how the Bruins are the best, yadayada. But it's true.

I've never really been into basketball much, but seeing as it's my first year at UCLA, it would be wise of me to give it another chance. At this point I make an obligatory remark about how the Bruins are the best, yadayada. But it's true.
Bring it. I don't like this double dipping you're attempting Fetus. Make the call!
UCLA or Cal? You shouldn't be allowed both and cherry pick one's football team and the others basketball team. Bruin or Bear?

Any love for the MAC?

*Runs and hides*

Everyone--nothing like a free win :p

Year of the Mid Major again?

After George Mason ( final 4 ) and Wichita st ( sweet 16 ) last year, can a mid major crash the party?

Winstop-Big south
Hofstra--Colonial
George Mason--Colonial
loyola-chicago--Horizon
Southern illinios--Missouri valley
Creighton--Missouri valley
Missouri St--Missouri valley
Wichita St--Missouri valley
Nevada--western Athletic

All made March Maddness but Hofstrea & Missouri St--NIT. Got all of most of their players back. Add that many of the "traditional " powers like North Carolina, Duke, Uconn, Illinios and Texas among others will be VERY young, could lead to many upsets in the Maddness.

Bring it. I don't like this double dipping you're attempting Fetus. Make the call!
UCLA or Cal? You shouldn't be allowed both and cherry pick one's football team and the others basketball team. Bruin or Bear?

Bruin or Bear, aren't they the same thing? No wonder he's confused. :D

Bruin or Bear, aren't they the same thing? No wonder he's confused. :D

Wasn't Brezzly Bruin a polor bear? Wait i'm showing my age if I can remember that cartoon :blush:

Bobby Knight Oh and btw he just kicked their top scorer off the team.


Kicked off for grades but it is being "hinted" that he and Knight didn't see eye to eye and Knight was 'looking" for a reason.

Bring it. I don't like this double dipping you're attempting Fetus. Make the call!
UCLA or Cal? You shouldn't be allowed both and cherry pick one's football team and the others basketball team. Bruin or Bear?

:p

Tell that to Pawpaw and his split football and basketball alliances.


Besides, I'm clearly a fan of the University of California... all 10 campuses :ack:

:p

Tell that to Pawpaw and his split football and basketball alliances.


Don't change the subject :nono: :spank:

I'm so glad UT is good enough to have a respectable basketball and football team so that I don't have to flip flop my team loyalties :mischief:

I'm so glad UT is good enough to have a respectable basketball and football team so that I don't have to flip flop my team loyalties :mischief:

military brat--picked up differant teams at differant times of my life

What, not enough balls to root for Army, Navy, or Airforce?

Not that I do or anything, just asking ;)

What, not enough balls to root for Army, Navy, or Airforce?



Coast guard

OMG shortguy--did the cav's just beat Arizona?

Paulus playing for Duke--thought he was to miss 1/2 the year because of his foot?

Sweet!!!!!!

What a game. I thought we were gone when we were down 16-17 in the first half.

Singletary was, as usual, awesome. Reynolds was a disappointment--he only scored 10--but Diane, who had a lot of points and seemed much more comfortable last year, picked up the slack. Cain also had a really nice game, finishing with a double double.

The new arena opening was really nice, pyrotechnics of all sorts, CavMan coming down from the roof on a cord, and Michael Buffer to introduce the starting lineup. Crowd was loud most of the 2nd half.

Shame that I have a 5 page paper to write now...

OMG shortguy--did the cav's just beat Arizona?

Paulus playing for Duke--thought he was to miss 1/2 the year because of his foot?

A little broke foot can't keep him down :crazyeye: . Gracious on Va :eek: --
I watched a little and they were down about 10 I think. Great win.

I missed the game Shortguy. Nice win.
It looks like Arizona needs to learn how to play defense without fouling! 38 FT's by Va.!!!

How did Buddinger and Wise play? I'm really looking forward to watching them develop.

A little broke foot can't keep him down :crazyeye: . Gracious on Va :eek: --
I watched a little and they were down about 10 I think. Great win.

We were down 19 at our worst.

I missed the game Shortguy. Nice win.
It looks like Arizona needs to learn how to play defense without fouling! 38 FT's by Va.!!!

How did Buddinger and Wise play? I'm really looking forward to watching them develop.

Buddinger was lights out in the first half; he had 15. He only had 2 in the second half, though. I don't remember Wise doing much, good or bad. The killer was Radenovic; he has great touch for a big guy, and he really sinks the free throws.

We actually got the worst of the fouls in the first half, but they called a lot of fouls in the 2nd--against both teams, but more against Arizona. I can't think of any particularly ridiculous calls on Arizona, but that may be the home team bias showing. ;) Either way, I certainly did my share of giving the refs hell.

Jesus, North Carolina hanging on against Winthrop. What the hell is this?

Jesus, North Carolina hanging on against Winthrop. What the hell is this?

And Kansas lost to Oral Roberts:lol:

Kansas has some 'splainin to do. They lost two years ago to Bucknell, then to another midmajor, and now to Oral Roberts? That name always reminds me of toothpaste.

Kansas has some 'splainin to do. They lost two years ago to Bucknell, then to another midmajor, and now to Oral Roberts? That name always reminds me of toothpaste.

Bucknell's a good team. They hung on to Wake Forest to overtime this year. I expect them to get to the tournament again this year.

Kansas has some 'splainin to do. They lost two years ago to Bucknell, then to another midmajor, and now to Oral Roberts? That name always reminds me of toothpaste.


Or a porn star :mischief: .

Bucknell's a good team. They hung on to Wake Forest to overtime this year. I expect them to get to the tournament again this year.


I think Bucknell was favored to win vs Wake due to all Wake's youngsters ;) . Plus they were at
home.

Yeah, this Wake Forest is not the Wake Forest of a few years ago. And don't look now, but does anyone see potential for "Pete Gillen Syndrome" in Prosser's future?

I think Bucknell was favored to win vs Wake due to all Wake's youngsters ;) . Plus they were at
home.

Yes, but a close game with an ACC school is an accomplishment in itself.

77-76, over St. John's. Another close game for Texas. This team is going to grow up fast at this pace, heh.

With Abrams & Durant we should get into the Tournament, maybe a sweet 16 with some luck.

77-76, over St. John's. Another close game for Texas. This team is going to grow up fast at this pace, heh.

With Abrams & Durant we should get into the Tournament, maybe a sweet 16 with some luck.

I would say Second Round "upset" at this point.

77-76, over St. John's. Another close game for Texas. This team is going to grow up fast at this pace, heh.

With Abrams & Durant we should get into the Tournament, maybe a sweet 16 with some luck.

Didn't St. Johns get demolished by Maryland? :confused:

Screw Bucknell. American is going to win the Patriot league this year,

Im pulling for OSU (get better Oden), BYU, and my AMERICAN EAGLES! Another year of getting creamed by real college basketball teams, here we come!

Screw Bucknell. American is going to win the Patriot league this year,

Im pulling for OSU (get better Oden), BYU, and my AMERICAN EAGLES! Another year of getting creamed by real college basketball teams, here we come!

American is going to get crushed by Buck-wheat!

Texas has a habit of playing down to its competition...see, Oklahoma last year ;)

I'm just basing my hope off of what potential I see. If it doesn't develop, we will be lucky to make the tournament. The Big 12 is kinda weak outside Kansas it seems like, and they just lost to Oral B or whoever the hell they are :p

At least Durant exploded in a game. He's good I'm telling you. :old:

American is going to get crushed by Buck-wheat!
It's very likely that'll happen at least once. American, however, returns their top 3 or 4 scorers, and has a pretty decent frosh class. We only have to beat them once after all, in the Patriot League Tourny..

As long as we dont get swept by freakin Holy Cross again.

It's very likely that'll happen at least once. American, however, returns their top 3 or 4 scorers, and has a pretty decent frosh class. We only have to beat them once after all, in the Patriot League Tourny..

As long as we dont get swept by freakin Holy Cross again.

You guys definetly have the best chance of beating Bucknell in the Patriot League. Despite an 0-3 start, I feel very confident about Bucknell this year.

North Carolina, on the other hand, plays Gonzaga, Ohio State, and Kentucky in a 2-week span. It could also potentially play Texas in that span too, that's a scary thought. :(

well, the patroit is pretty top heavy. American and Bucknell ought to be strong in league play, and Holy Cross wont be an easy win....but the rest of the league sucks pretty bad. I heard Colgate got a few good people in their recruiting class....but they were really really bad last year.

well, the patroit is pretty top heavy. American and Bucknell ought to be strong in league play, and Holy Cross wont be an easy win....but the rest of the league sucks pretty bad. I heard Colgate got a few good people in their recruiting class....but they were really really bad last year.

I really think the only thing is going to matter who's on top of the Patriot League Championchip Game between Bucknell and American. ;) Holy Cross will finish 3rd, and then it's a race for 4th from there.

Why does Brandon Wright insist on shooting the ball every time he touches the ball? And I don't think we've heard of perimeter defense. And Phsyco T got lost on his way to the Garden, because he's weak out there tonight.

Gonzaga wins, haha. I would think Gonzaga would be rather weak this year without Morrison.

Colgate? What's with the freakin toothpaste names everywhere? Where does Crest play? :p

It was a close game between UNC and Gonzaga last night, but the Zags held on. They blew their 16 point lead in just a few minutes, and I thought they were going to lose when Raivio kept taking those horrible shots and turning the ball over and then fouling the guy! Basically, Tyler Hansbrough didn't do anyting thanks to the double (sometimes triple) team; I guess that's what it takes to beat UNC though.

BTW, that freshman on Gonzaga, Matt Bouldin, was looking very good. The commentators kept talking about his place in the top 5 of the freshman class, and I'd have to agree.

edit: Crosspost with Azale...

Basically, Tyler Hansbrough didn't do anyting thanks to the double (sometimes triple) team; I guess that's what it takes to beat UNC though.

That, and Wright jacking up bad shots. I'm really okay with a loss, those freshmen never have been on the big stage, so they're used to it now and they're going to beat Tennessee and Ohio State hopefully. Also, Wright needs to use that 7'4'' wingspan to get a hand in someone's face on the perimeter, they were hitting everything last night.

Geez, I leave for 1 semester, and AU changes everything on me. It looks like we have a new logo (AGAIN), and are making ESPN call us by our full name? No American. No AU. Its got to be American University, even in the box score. Weird.

However, we're 3-1, and have the second best record in the Patroit league (and we had Richmond by the neck and we choked too. That would have been a nice win). Bucknell drops to 0-4. I like our chances.

Also, OSU is lookin real good, even though they have played crappy teams. Oden might play against UNC. If he can see the floor, I like their chances (Florida however, will crush the Buckeyes).

Of course, Bucknell has played actual teams and American has played the equivalents of community colleges.

we're a low major, what did you expect? In the basketball world, WE'RE one of those community colleges. Richmond is a real team too. Last year, we were losing to those community college schools too. Look. Don't pee in my cornflakes yet Alcosta :)>

Florida vs Kentucky was a terrific game :scan: :cool: .


Edit: thanks tcj- yeah I meant Kansas (duh)

Kansas, but yeah. UF has weaknesses, but Kansas played out of their minds and still only won by two in overtime in a home environment.

ACC/Little 10 Challange over already. 8 games in ACC up 6-2 :lol: Thats 8 straight years. FYI only undefeated team in challange play-- DUKE :D

My Deacons (5-0) went into Air Force (6-1) and now they are 5-1plus/plus:eek: - got outplayed, outshot, outcoached and outhustled. I turned off the tube when they got down by THIRTY :blush: .

I saw that score last night and I thought I read it wrong at first. Absolutely shocking!

Ohio State-UNC was a great game last night, we may have lost. However, when Oden gets back...

Final ACC/Little 10---8-3

Air Force beat WF--is that the same Air Force DUKE spanked last week :rolleyes:

Final ACC/Little 10---8-3

Air Force beat WF--is that the same Air Force DUKE spanked last week :rolleyes:


Well they used ALL their weapons against Wake, even some Stealth technology it seems :mischief: . Hey come on, it was only 30 or so
points :blush: .

I saw that score last night and I thought I read it wrong at first. Absolutely shocking!

Ohio State-UNC was a great game last night, we may have lost. However, when Oden gets back...

Well, ESPN seems to have a little love-affair with Greg Oden. Get over it ESPN, he's not there, focus on the freaking game. :rolleyes: He's scary good, but they played like the #1 team in the country for quite a long time, but we came back through strong play by Lawson, Ellington, and Hansbrough. A very good game by North Carolina, and hopefully we'll do it the rest of the year.

One thing, I'm tired of North Carolina forgetting how to play perimeter defense, they've done it every year for 20 years, and it kills them, Ohio State would've been blown out of the building if we could guard the perimeter.

Actually, he was there, on the bench...the camera went to him about 300 times in case you didn't notice. But he is a Norse god after all, so you, as the rest of us do, should feel privileged that he would spend time among us mere mortals.

Actually, he was there, on the bench...the camera went to him about 300 times in case you didn't notice. But he is a Norse god after all, so you, as the rest of us do, should feel privileged that he would spend time among us mere mortals.


Yes, I noticed, Dick Vitale made it quite clear to me.

Oden took the floor today and looked great (even with a cast on his hand). UNC seriously lucked out having him miss the game.

Actually, he was there, on the bench...the camera went to him about 300 times in case you didn't notice. But he is a Norse god after all, so you, as the rest of us do, should feel privileged that he would spend time among us mere mortals.

I was disappointed in Oden, after all the hype for a WHOLE YEAR, I expected 40 points, 27 rebounds and 14.5 blocks at least--with only 1 hand, an eye patch and only 1 shoe on.

Oden took the floor today and looked great (even with a cast on his hand). UNC seriously lucked out having him miss the game.

We still would've beaten you, and we'll beat you again come March/April.

What? You cant be in DC and root for North Carolina. Go root for Mason/Maryland/Virgina like everybody else. Just not Georgetown. G-town = teh evil

What? You cant be in DC and root for North Carolina. Go root for Mason/Maryland/Virgina like everybody else. Just not Georgetown. G-town = teh evil

I hate Maryland, I like Virginia, and Mason is a bandwagon team. I like North Carolina, my dad went there, and I've always liked them.

We still would've beaten you, and we'll beat you again come March/April.

We'll see...

Florida.Maryland & Georgia Tech all lost today

I was disappointed in Oden, after all the hype for a WHOLE YEAR, I expected 40 points, 27 rebounds and 14.5 blocks at least--with only 1 hand, an eye patch and only 1 shoe on.


That's great pawpaw :goodjob: .

I'm a West Virginia and UK fan. Too bad West Virginia lost their entire team full of seniors.. no more Gansey.. *sniffs*

Wow, Texas' early schedule is brutal...come on, I wanna play Baylor now :p

How 'bout them Tar Heels? We only have 1 road game in December (at Saint Louis) and our next "hard" game will be January 10th.

How 'bout them Tar Heels? We only have 1 road game in December (at Saint Louis) and our next "hard" game will be January 10th.

Duke has had zero road games--all their "away" games have been a nuetral sites.

Duke has had zero road games--all their "away" games have been a nuetral sites.

And they haven't played anyone, and is the reason they shouldn't be ranked in the top 10.

And they haven't played anyone, and is the reason they shouldn't be ranked in the top 10.


They played Marquette & Air Force who are both ranked and Goergetown was ranked when they played--same # of ranked teams as North Carolina

They played Marquette & Air Force who are both ranked and Goergetown was ranked when they played--same # of ranked teams as North Carolina

Yeah, but you haven't played a top 5 team, Gonzaga, a powerhouse every year, and a talented Tennessee team, plus don't forget Kentucky. They were ranked the week before too, somehow. We also beat Winthrop, a team that upset Kansas.

Gonzaga, a powerhouse every year

Duke plays Gonzaga next Sat.

AlCosta's Rankings:

1. UCLA
2. North Carolina
3. Pittsburgh
4. Ohio State
5. Florida
6. Wichita State
7t. Wisconsin
7t. Puke
9. Arizona
10. Alabama
11. Connecticut
12. Oklahoma State
13. Kansas
14. LSU
15. Gonzaga
16. Texas A&M
17. Butler
18. Washington
19. Notre Dame
20. Oregon
21. Memphis
22. Air Force
23. Florida State
24. Texas
25. Marquette

Duke plays Gonzaga next Sat.

Well, then best of luck to you guys. ;) (That means I'm hoping for a Gonzaga win.) Where is the game?

Well, then best of luck to you guys. ;) (That means I'm hoping for a Gonzaga win.) Where is the game?

Madison Square Garden

Gonzaga to the Final Four this year.

You heard it hear first.

Gonzaga to the Final Four this year.

You heard it hear first.

Only to lose to North Carolina on their way to the National Championship.

Only to lose to North Carolina on their way to the National Championship game.

Where they lose to Duke.

Duke plays Gonzaga next Sat.

And the Blue Devils win

Nice game coming up, Florida vs. Ohio State. One of those teams is going to the National Championship in my opinion...maybe both if the seedings work out. I continued to be impressed by Oden and Florida is essentially the same team they were last season only with more experience.

Spank.down! Wow Florida is absolutely pounding OSU. They're goooood.

UCLA looked great today as well and the Pac 10 overall looks awfully solid conferencewise.

Wow...beat LSU one week, blow a 15 point lead to Tennessee the next. Hopefully we get hot before and during the tournament and make a nice little run...

My interest in college basketball has waned drastically in the last week. :cry:

The 2nd AlCosta Poll:

1. UCLA
2. North Carolina
3. Florida
4. Wisconsin
5. Duke
6. Pittsburgh
7. Arizona
8. Alabama
9. Kansas
10. UCONN
11. Ohio State
12. Oklahoma State
13. Texas A&M
14. Butler
15. Wichita State
16. Washington
17. LSU
18. Air Force
19. Memphis
20. Oregon

Problems:

1. Florida is either better than UCLA or right below them. They manhandled Ohio State and the manchild Oden.

2. Texas isnt ranked :p

3. You have Oregon but no Clemson?

Ok, people down here are a little off their rocker. They're saying UF's win over Ohio State is a sign that UF will beat tOSU in football now. I mean, I'm a Gator, but that's just a little bit ridiculous.

Spank.down! Wow Florida is absolutely pounding OSU. They're goooood.

UCLA looked great today as well and the Pac 10 overall looks awfully solid conferencewise.

Washington State about pulled one out of the hat vs UCLA last night :wow: .
Neither team looked exactly up to Florida in my opinion.

The Pac 10 has been playing mighty good ball though. I think we had the best record of all the majors before conference play.

Wash. State has only lost 2 games so they may be better than given credit. Arizona put the hammer on Cal, though. :mischief:

It could be the first year in a long, long time where we see reasonably tough Pac 10 conference games.

Washington State about pulled one out of the hat vs UCLA last night :wow: .
Neither team looked exactly up to Florida in my opinion.

You mean up to Carolina. ;)

You mean up to Carolina. ;)

I hear ya Al :cool: , just be glad my smack talk is way down this year
with my Deacons in rebuilding mode. :mischief:

I hear ya Al :cool: , just be glad my smack talk is way down this year
with my Deacons in rebuilding mode. :mischief:

Rebuilding ACC teams don't lose to Air Force by 40 or so points. :lol: :p

Rebuilding ACC teams don't lose to Air Force by 40 or so points. :lol: :p


Thats called life support :rolleyes:

North Carolina lost to Gonzaga correct? Who is on a four game losing streak?

Pssh, Florida would beat UNC by 20 right now ;)

Rebuilding ACC teams don't lose to Air Force by 40 or so points. :lol: :p

Hey I can take the crap talk, but just wait--- they'll be back--- maybe not
soon but they'll be back. Air Force will make the tourney. It was just an
off night for Wake, they usually only lose by 20 :lol: . Prosser is just
picking out some land to 'start' the rebuilding.

I swear, we're a top 10 team when playing at home, and a Big South cupcake when playing away.

I'm a Duke fan, but I think their ranking of #5 (it's going to go down now since they lost to VT) is way too high. They committed 20+ turnovers today, and in the last few minutes of regulation they must've turned it over 5 times. Paulus is really having trouble at PG, getting himself trapped and then making a bad pass far too often. DeMarcus Nelson is the only one they can consistently count on.

I hate them, and I also disagree with their ranking :D

But who saw Washington lay it up over Paulus?

But who saw Washington lay it up over Paulus?

I saw that as well...

Georgetown (from DC, so maybe you like them as well) did real well against Notre Dame today too. It was something like 23-6 real early.

Honestly though, don't be that person that's like "I hate Duke. Duke sucks. They're ranked too high. Players have no talent. UNC all the way." I can't stand those people. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean you can't give them some credit. I like Duke, but at least I admit UNC is the better team this year, and they deserve to be #2.

I'm a Duke fan, but I think their ranking of #5 (it's going to go down now since they lost to VT) is way too high. They committed 20+ turnovers today. DeMarcus Nelson is the only one they can consistently count on.


Duke fan too, #10 -#15 is more reasonable I think. Turnovers have been the achilles heel all year, they are very sloppy with the ball. Their shooting % is actually higher than last year but they are getting less shots due to the turnovers. Mcroberts has had @ 5 game games in a row now.

dude, pawpaw, I don't know if I've asked this, but how did you end up as a Notre Dame AND a Duke fan? Glutton for hate? :p

Honestly though, don't be that person that's like "I hate Duke. Duke sucks. They're ranked too high. Players have no talent. UNC all the way." I can't stand those people. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean you can't give them some credit. I like Duke, but at least I admit UNC is the better team this year, and they deserve to be #2.

I absolutely despise Duke and anyone who saw them play knew they were overrated. They lost to a good team (Marquette) and haven't played a single other decent team. I'll give them credit for at least winning those games, but not more.

Duke beat Gonzaga.

Gonzaga beat UNC.

I'm not trying to prove that Duke is better than UNC, but you can't go on about how Duke is severely overrated and not other teams. And Duke's easy schedule isn't their fault...conference games just started this week. ALL teams play weaker teams for the first 10 games or so.

Duke beat Gonzaga.

Gonzaga beat UNC.

I'm not trying to prove that Duke is better than UNC, but you can't go on about how Duke is severely overrated and not other teams. And Duke's easy schedule isn't their fault...conference games just started this week. ALL teams play weaker teams for the first 10 games or so.

North Carolina has played Tennessee, (#6)Ohio State, Gonzaga (Loss), and Kentucky.

Duke played Marquette (Loss), Georgetown, and Gonzaga.

I can say Duke is overrated. They have not played exceptionally well in any game they have played. Their quality wins were each by 9 or 7 points. North Carolina won by 21, 9, and 15 in their "quality wins." North Carolina has played a lot better than Duke this season. Duke has not played like a top 5 team this year, and they showed it today when they finally got challenged by someone.

Duke beat Gonzaga.

Gonzaga beat UNC.

I'm not trying to prove that Duke is better than UNC, but you can't go on about how Duke is severely overrated and not other teams. And Duke's easy schedule isn't their fault...conference games just started this week. ALL teams play weaker teams for the first 10 games or so.

Virginia was beating Gonzaga by 34 points at halftime, and won by 21.

Virginia lost to Appalachian State.

What's your point? :p

dude, pawpaw, I don't know if I've asked this, but how did you end up as a Notre Dame AND a Duke fan? Glutton for hate? :p


Military brat, so no " home city ", picked up teams as I grew up--EX, a Vikings fans because the first football game I ever saw was at 11 when we returned from over seas, Minny/ Pitt super bowl

Where's Matt when you need him?

His American lost to Bucknell last night. :p

Pac 10/ Big 12 sign to do an early season challange like the ACC/Big Ten

Pac 10/ Big 12 sign to do an early season challange like the ACC/Big Ten
I wish it was this year. The Pac 10 is loaded and it would be nice to add to that difficulty in the schedule.

Speaking of difficult...
Starting Sunday Arizona has an 11-game run that has seven ranked teams. They play Oregon twice, UCLA, UNC (1/27), Washington, & Washington State. How do you think Arizona fare in these seven games?

Don't feel so bad about Duke losing to VT after they dominated UNC

Don't feel so bad about Duke losing to VT after they dominated UNC

At least we made the game interesting at the end. :)

Well, North Carolina stomped Arizona, badly.

It's obvious my Wildcats are all that this year. This stretch was critical to show who they were and we haven't shown up.

Too bad since the Pac 10 teams would seem to prepare a team for the rigors of the tournament. We're through unless Kirk Walters comes back with some weight on his bones and add a 8th body.

Where's Matt when you need him?

His American lost to Bucknell last night. :p

Its looking like I was wrong about this team. We've been hit hard by injuries, and we're choking bad. Loss in OT at HOME to college of the HOLY CRAP!!

If you can't get up for Holy Crap at Bender, you're not a good basketball team.

At least we still have the patriot league tourney...maybe we can catch a break.

*turns on Buckeyes*

Eww, Ariz-UNC made me throw up. At least my conference still has UCLA and Oregon... USC keeps doing good against ranked teams and choking against randoms...

For as bad as UVA was about a month ago, we're now 5-2 in the conference. We might actually have a legit tournament shot.

For as bad as UVA was about a month ago, we're now 5-2 in the conference. We might actually have a legit tournament shot.

I believe you will lose your next game--Duke

It's at home, so I give us a bit of a chance. We're pretty hard to beat at home.

Even so, a win against Duke is not strictly necessary. I'd say we need to finish 10-6 in conference to secure a bid. We should be able to handle Miami, Florida State, and Georgia Tech at home; I give us a decent shot at Miami and Wake and home against VT, and some shot at home against Duke. At Maryland and at VT not likely. Still, 10 ACC wins is very doable. Or, on the other side, we could collapse like we did earlier this season and win only 1 or 2 more. It's impossible to tell.

Well well well. What do you know? :D

Big Day in the Pac-10, UCLA reasserts its dominance over Oregon, and Arizona loses again, this time to Washington State.

And congrats to Virginia, but you guys will choke eventually. ;)

And congrats to Virginia, but you guys will choke eventually. ;)

La la la la I can't hear you!!! ;)

We'll see. I'm certainly not ruling it out.

:clap: Great win from the Hoos!

Well well well. What do you know? :D

@ Reynolds :scan: :eek: . What year is he?

Yea, Kevin Durant is pretty much the greatest player in the history of college basketball :mischief:

Too bad this is his only year.

@ Reynolds :scan: :eek: . What year is he?

Unfortunately for us, he's a senior. He's had a very good last few weeks, and (despite Singletary's heroics) he was the chief architect of last night's win. Cramping up pretty badly at a few points, he scored 20 in the second half and and didn't miss a single freebie down the stretch. We're going to miss him a lot. Singletary's a junior, but the early exit talk it unavoidable; we'll just have to see. If he leaves, we're probably going to be very, very bad next year.

If UCLA can win on sunday I predict that they will jump to #3 or so...

Wooh NC State!

UCLA is starting to feel the fire now, I'm looking for them to roll the rest of the way...

Oregon loses to USC again...

We avoided the letdown game, and now we're tied for first in the ACC. This next week will be pivotal, with 2 tough road rivalry games ahead.

downtown - 2 wins for Bucknell over AU.

Yeah, I gave up on them after they lost to the Cross. And they started so well...

These guys are nothing without me. Next year, when D-town makes his campus return...

UCLA-USC tonight! Kind of torn who to root for, UCLA is out there to give the Pac-10 respect, but it would be awesome for USC to represent to Pac-10 well in basketball too.

UNC-Duke also tonight, for the east coast buggers.

UNC - Dook much bigger game. If Dick Vitale's there, it's a big game.

Also, I'm gonna put the Over/Under # of Dick Vitale mentioning Football Signee Marvin Austin at 2.

UCLA, UNC win. For Duke, that's thier third straight loss at Cameron...

UCLA, UNC win. For Duke, that's thier third straight loss at Cameron...

3rd straight they had a 10 pt + lead and blew in the final minute :mad:

3rd straight they had a 10 pt + lead and blew in the final minute :mad:

Terrible, absolutely terrible refereeing that game. Good lord, I've seen blind refs do better than that. Hansbrough is being molested in the lane, and there is no call. I'm surprised they didn't add time to Duke too.

Anyways, it shows we can win even when we play like crap.

Unless its against NC State right? ;)

Unless its against NC State right? ;)

or gonzaga

So nothing's happened in college basketball in the past two weeks, eh?

I've got a question then. What's going on with Alabama? I know they were thought of fairly highly early on before losing to Notre Dame, then they took a major hit once conference play started and they just royally screwed the pooch. But then the almost beat Florida and did beat Kentucky. Now they lost to Tennessee. I know they've had some trouble with injuries, but really, what's going on?

And keep in mind that I know nothing about basketball, so use small words . . .

Ronald Steele, thier best player, was slowed with nagging injuries and they just weren't good enough besides Steele I think. I dunno about thier tournament chances...probably a bubble team (right on the borderline).

I personally am rooting for Vanderbilt in that conference! Go 'Dores! :D

Always hard to pull against Vandy, god love 'em . . .

Can't wait for tomorrow's 1 versus 2 match-up. It's time to get some payback for the lose in early January.

Big 10 basketball. It's faantastic. :rolleyes:

Big 10 basketball. It's faantastic. :rolleyes:

Kinda like ACC football.

Yes, and no. In that it's overrated, maybe. In that it's a boring, brutish slugfest, no. More like Big 10 football in that respect (though this year was an exception).

ACC football has been WAY overrated. It was supposed to be the greatest conference ever when VT, Miami, and BC joined. This past season it was easily the worst of the Big 6.

I doubt anyone would make the claim that the Big 10 as a basketball conference is overrated, as it's a been a known quantity for quite some time. It's has some good teams at the top that can go deep in the tourney, but it lacks the top notch quality depth of middle-tier teams that the ACC or Big East conferences have.

Big 10 Basketball sucks. That was the worst 1 vs 2 match-up ever. I'd much rather watch my Heels lose to Maryland 89-87 in a back and forth game.

They don't give you any extra trophies for winning sexy!

O-H!!!

Jeez, two overrated teams argueing about who's more overrated ;)

Florida is still better than UNC or Ohio State or Wisconsin, and it will show in the tournament. Can't really blame them for dropping a game they have little motivation for, considering they have already won thier conference.

Number 1 seeds are looking like OSU, Kansas, Memphis, and maybe Wisconsin right now. One of those years you could finally see an upset in the 16 vs. 1 matchup...

FU has dropped *2* games to teams it should have smacked around. Ohio State has yet to drop an easy game...they lost to UNC, Florida and Wisky. No bad losses there.

I dont see this team cutting down the nets in March, but they're still a good basketball squad...'specially if they're feeling it from 3.

I-O!!!!


As long as florida wins it's tourney it'll be a one seed.

I-O!!!!


As long as florida wins it's tourney it'll be a one seed.

They should be a number 1 seed regardless of its tournament results. They're a great team that's lost a couple of bad games at a crucial point.

The number 1 seeds should be: Ohio State, UCLA, Florida, and the last one should go to (no particular order):

A. Wisconsin
B. North Carolina
C. Kansas
D. Memphis

Memphis hasn't lost since...umm, I can't remember. They will probably win the C-USA Tourny and that will get them in. Whether they are the 4th or 3rd best team in the nation or not.

They should be a number 1 seed regardless of its tournament results. They're a great team that's lost a couple of bad games at a crucial point.

The number 1 seeds should be: Ohio State, UCLA, Florida, and the last one should go to (no particular order):

A. Wisconsin
B. North Carolina
C. Kansas
D. Memphis

Should they get a one seed, yes. But the tourney committee may not see it that way, as you said, they had a couple of bad games at a crucial point. If that continues and they lose to someone they shouldn't in the SEC tourney then the committee might feel that they've 'peaked' already and are no longer one seed material, as it is a fine line between the teams. So as long as they take care of business (and don't lose to Tennessee this week), they'll be a one seed.

As far as the last one seed goes, you forgot to add Texas A&M to the one seed candidates. They have an identical record as Kansas and also beat them earlier this month AT the Phog. They are the favorites going into the Big 12 tourney.

Hey, Alabama beat Ole Miss. So now do they get in the tournament? Or do they need to beat Miss. State this weekend as well? Or can they not get in regardless. I guess what I'm really asking is whether another West team has a better shot at getting in than we do . . .

Alabama is barely ranked at this point right? I would think they need to beat Mississippi State and have a good showing in the SEC tournament.

Bracketology has them as the 6th team out I think. They have work to do in the SEC tournament, or hope for lots of upsets.

A GT win would hit the spot right about now...

Oh Good lord? What is happening to my Heels?

They are getting Tarred!:p

Alabama is barely ranked at this point right? I would think they need to beat Mississippi State and have a good showing in the SEC tournament.

Bracketology has them as the 6th team out I think. They have work to do in the SEC tournament, or hope for lots of upsets.

I think the two of you missed the post where I mentioned that I don't know anything about basketball. It's a sixty-five team tournament, right? With only twenty-five ranked teams, what does being ranked have to do with it?

Also, what does '6th team out' mean? Does it mean that we're 71st in line for a spot, or does it mean that there are five SEC teams that would get in ahead of us, or does it mean that only five SEC teams will go and we're sixth, so we won't?

I think he means that they are sixth team out of the tournament, which means if it started today...they wouldn't be in it.

The ranking is USUALLY a good indication of a team making the tournament, but Alabama has been vastly overrated in the polls all year long so it probably is not in this case.

I think they need to reach the third round or so. And hope other teams lose. Just watch selection sunday, it's on CBS :p

On another note...Texas plays the most exciting games of anyone in the country! They are HOT right now, but I expect a letdown in the Big 12 tournament. If we make it to the final there, I'm calling Final Four :D

I hate living near UMD. Everyone here is talking about how "great they are." Well, I'm going to show you a recent post on a local sports forum:

Wow, A number 1 seed? For a team that has lost 7 games this season, including to games versus Miami at home, Notre Dame at home, and a slow start in the ACC. The tournament isn't for rewarding teams that are hot, it's for their total season acheivments. If they win the ACC Tournament, they'll get a 3 seed, no higher. You gotta consider the 1 and 2, and even 3 seeds are basically filled by 12 teams already (Ohio State, UCLA, Kansas, Florida, Wisconsin, Memphis, Texas A&M, UNC Georgetown, Pitt, Washington State, Nevada, Southern Illinois, and Texas should also receive consideration.) Maryland is getting way too much props for beating a below average Duke team twice, a North Carolina team that is 4-4 in their last 8 games, NC State, Clemson, and Florida State. Come back to this reply when Maryland beats a team at the top of their game, because they haven't done that once this season.

What do you think of this reply? (BTW, this site is a lot more personal, and attacks are more welcome. ;))

Your right. The ACC is overrated by ESPN and the pundits IMO, it's not as good as in past years. If UNC doesn't win the ACC tourny, they likely will have no number 1 seeds. Duke has no NBA talent on it, VaTech and Virginia are arguably the best teams and a mediocre Maryland team is making a run.

OVER-RATED!! *CHA CHA CHACHACHA*

Your right. The ACC is overrated by ESPN and the pundits IMO, it's not as good as in past years. If UNC doesn't win the ACC tourny, they likely will have no number 1 seeds. Duke has no NBA talent on it, VaTech and Virginia are arguably the best teams and a mediocre Maryland team is making a run.

OVER-RATED!! *CHA CHA CHACHACHA*

This Maryland fan base annoys me a lot. I was almost rooting for Duke over them because I'm tired of people talking about how great they are.

Yeah, those stupid terps fans bugged the hell out of me too. Them and Gerogetown *shakes fist*.

People are seriously saying Maryland should get a 1 seed? I was thinking more like 5 or 6....

Yeah, those stupid terps fans bugged the hell out of me too. Them and Gerogetown *shakes fist*.

People are seriously saying Maryland should get a 1 seed? I was thinking more like 5 or 6....

So is everyone in the country. And I just saw a guy argue that their quality wins (besides North Carolina and Duke) are Notre Dame, Illinois, (wait here is where it gets good) Vermont, St. Johns, Clemson, and Fordham.

St. John's is awful, they had like 8 points in a HALF against Duke.

Texas should have beaten Kansas today if Durant hadn't twisted his ankle. Thank goodness he is not brittle though. This team is turning out to be MUCH better than I thought they could be. Poor A&M, thinking there was a sport they could be better at then UT :lol:

GAAAAAAAHHH

American had Holy Cross by the BALLS in the Patriot League semis...had a 10 point lead in the second half, but Simmons got a twisting layup to go in with like, 3 seconds left. Holy Crap wins by 2.

AU might have snagged an NIT bid with a win...and would have been a game away from its first NCAA apperance. We graduate our top 4 scorers this year. Crap..we're going to suck for a while.

Screw You Gerald Henderson!

Have we ever had a March Madness pick'em thread? Maybe we could start it with the conference tournaments...the big ones I mean, since all the smaller ones are over.

We could run a bracket through Yahoo. Anyone else interested?

Sounds fun, I'd be up for one.

DO it. I'm in.

Join Here. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=210427)

Local Update: MY TEAM, Texas A&M Corpus Christi, has a really good shot at winning the Southland Conference and being in the tournament :D If you remember, the rep from the Southland (Northwestern St.) won in a major upset in thier opening game. SOUTHLAND REPRESENT!

Al Costa Maryland Hate Update: The Terps lost to Miami, so much for being a 1 see :rolleyes:

Air Force just lost in the MWC first round, thus now playing themselves into some serious bubble trouble.

Go BYU baby.

Oh my, can this day get any more perfect. Both Duke AND Maryland lost today. The site of Maryland lovers, because I posted that I told them so, are pissed at me, but whatever, at least North Carolina didn't lose to Miami.

And tomorrow, Ohio State gets to beat Michigan for the third time in 18 days...oh, how satisfying!

So Alabama lost to Kentucky. Will they get into the NIT at least?

I love living in ACC country. We get to watch tight, exciting games all day while other people suffer through "20-16 at halftime" snoozefests.

Too bad our refs are the worst in the business; we could've had 3 overtime games. Maybe this gets FSU in the tourney, though; they're a decent team, and Al Thornton is an absolutely sick player.

Fear the 'Deamon Deacons' :goodjob: :cool: . :mischief:

I love living in ACC country. We get to watch tight, exciting games all day while other people suffer through "20-16 at halftime" snoozefests.

Too bad our refs are the worst in the business; we could've had 3 overtime games. Maybe this gets FSU in the tourney, though; they're a decent team, and Al Thornton is an absolutely sick player.

Shortguy, what's the deal here with the hostility? Still bitter over the recent loss to Wake? Or maybe it's being one of the few teams to lose to a Big 10 team during the Challenge. That's it? Isn't it? You still haven't gotten over that have you? Still having nightmares of Tarrance Crump hitting that floater with 1 second left on the clock to win the game? Just remember, as Azale would put it, "Flukes happen." Granted, it was your 3rd loss in the Challenge, but as Azale would say to that "Flukes happen." You have to learn to move on, or you'll never find peace in life. ;)

Shortguy, what's the deal here with the hostility?

You know, I'm not sure. I think "hostility" is a bit of a mischaracterization, though. Just some bragging, maybe. :p

Still bitter over the recent loss to Wake?

A little, but that's irrelevant. It was ours, doggone it!! :mad: ;) Just goes to show, though, there's really no easy away game in the ACC.

Or maybe it's being one of the few teams to lose to a Big 10 team during the Challenge. That's it? Isn't it?

No, we've always been pretty bad away, and though we're pretty good this year that hasn't really changed. The last second loss against Stanford was worse. Anyway, that was what, 5 months ago? There's been a lot of basketball played since then.

Really now, a Big 10 fan reaching to the ACC-Big 10 Challenge to prove a point is pretty weak. 8-0 now, is it? :p And OSU's record isn't really pristine either.

Miami is up by 10 on Boston College. I really hope Carolina gets the chance to beat them by 40 again.

You know, I'm not sure. I think "hostility" is a bit of a mischaracterization, though. Just some bragging, maybe. :p

Bragging?? If you were referencing a conference like the Big East or Pac-10, I'd understand, but the Big 10??? Geez, isn't that like gloating over the Big East in football?? :p

A little, but that's irrelevant. It was ours, doggone it!! :mad: ;) Just goes to show, though, there's really no easy away game in the ACC.

Kind of like the Big East, a basketball conference peer.

No, we've always been pretty bad away, and though we're pretty good this year that hasn't really changed. The last second loss against Stanford was worse. Anyway, that was what, 5 months ago? There's been a lot of basketball played since then.

Really now, a Big 10 fan reaching to the ACC-Big 10 Challenge to prove a point is pretty weak. 8-0 now, is it? :p And OSU's record isn't really pristine either.

OSU's record isn't pristine (and we also aren't haven't been good til recently at Bball), but we aren't the ones bragging, now are we? ;)

Bragging?? If you were referencing a conference like the Big East or Pac-10, I'd understand, but the Big 10??? Geez, isn't that like gloating over the Big East in football?? :p

You said it, not me. ;)

OSU's record isn't pristine (and we also aren't haven't been good til recently at Bball), but we aren't the ones bragging, now are we? ;)

I was bragging about the ACC in general, not about Virginia. God knows we don't have much to brag about from the last 8 years...

Well look at the Big 12! Texas, Texas A&M, Kansas...and no one else. HEAVY AT THE TOP BABY!!!

Kinda like the football version of the Big 12, minus A&M and Kansas :p

Kevin Durant is 0-11 from the field! That's unusual.

You said it, not me. ;)



I was bragging about the ACC in general, not about Virginia. God knows we don't have much to brag about from the last 8 years...

Well, it's pretty obvious the Big 10 is top heavy, just like Azale said about the Big 12.


And actually, here in Ohio we've gotten a decent amount of the ACC tourney games. Right along with the B10, P10, MAC, A10, BE, and the tens of minor conference championship games they are showing on ESPN.

Kevin Durant is 0-11 from the field! That's unusual.

Still finished with 29...20 point comeback in the second half. :D

Pop Pop Pop! Thats the sound of bubbles breaking. Nevada and Xavier lost, so the WAC and the A10 are suddenly multi-bid leagues. (Utah St. and George Washington?)

A&M CC is in the finals, woot. They could be a problem for some teams in the first round...I hope they get the 16 seed if they win, so they can be the first 16 seed to beat a 1 seed ;)

With Selection Sunday on hand, place your bets on who will be 1 seeds.

I'm going with:

1. Ohio State
2. Kansas
3. Florida
4. Wisconsin

#1 seeds
Ohio State
Kansas
Florida
UCLA/Wisconsin (if Wisconsin beats Ohio State, they get a #1 seed. If not, UCLA.)

#2 seeds
UCLA/Wisconsin
UNC
Georgetown
?

I'm not quite sure who to put as #2 for the last spot - Memphis? Amazing record, undefeated in conference play, 22 game win streak, but C-USA isn't really a powerhouse conference. We saw what happened last year when they were a #1 and lost in the Elite Eight. A team like Texas A&M, Pittsburgh, Louisville, and Nevada have all lost 2 games recently in their past 3 or 4.

Well, a lot can happen today, so that'll could make the two seeds clearer. For example, if Florida losses, they'll certainly drop to a two seed; the same thing with Kansas. However, I think Wisconsin and Ohio State are assured of 1 seeds due to the fact that the seeding has to be completed before the game is over (since they release it right after the B10 championship).

Easy schmeezy lemon peezy

1. Ohio State
2. Kansas
3. UCLA
4. Florida

I still don't see why UCLA deserves a 1 seed. They've lost 2 games in a row.

1. Kansas
2. Wisconsin
3. Florida
4. Ohio State

they make the seedings before the Big 10 title game. OSU is a 1 seed *lock*, and I think, ought to compete for the 1 overall seed. Its either us or Kansas.

WOOOO A&M CC WON!! Now, to see who will blow us out in the opening round :D It's still amazing though. This school didn't even get an athletics department until 1999. We almost blew it at the end there and we can't offensive rebound to save our lives, but Chris Daniels is a stud.

Texas up 4 over Kansas, was at one point 19 points up...

Wow, best Conference Championship game by a LARGE margin! OT now, Kansas with a small lead.

Where is everyone? :p

EDIT: It looks like their shooting FT's now, Kansas has this pretty much inhand...this team dissolved a 20+ point lead like nothing, they will be very dangerous. I mean, I would be surprised if they didn't make the Final Four.

Where is everyone? :p

Watching the games, duh!

That was a good game b/w Texas and Kansas. Now, hopefully my buckeyes get announced as the top overall seed in the tourney.

Where is everyone? :p

Driving back to school after Spring Break.

Shame that NCSU fell short; heck of a run they put up.

Florida is the No. 1 overall seed. that's shocking, but I'm glad. I think the SEC tournament proved that when focused, there's nobody better in the land.

WTF?!?! #1 in the SOUTH???? And Florida #1 in the Midwest???? What the heck. They just got done saying how they try to keep the teams as close to home and they give us this crap.

They only do that for the first 2 rounds. You'll notice that the opening round venues aren't tied to region anymore (i.e., some west region games are in Columbus).

Brackets are out.
St Louis
#1 Florida
#2 Wisconsin
#3 Oregon
#4 Maryland
#5 Butler
#6 Notre Dame
#7 UNLV
#8 Arizona
#9 Purdue
#10 Georgia Tech
#11 Winthrop
#12 Old Dominion
#13 Davidson
#14 Miami (OH)
#15 Texas A&M - Corpus Christi
#16 Jackson State

East Rutherford
#1 North Carolina
#2 Georgetown
#3 Washington State
#4 Texas
#5 Southern Cal
#6 Vanderbilt
#7 Boston College
#8 Marquette
#9 Michigan State
#10 Texas Tech
#11 George Washington
#12 Arkansas
#13 New Mexico State
#14 Oral Roberts
#15 Belmont
#16 Eastern Kentucky

San Antonio
#1 Ohio State
#2 Memphis
#3 Texas A&M
#4 Virginia
#5 Tennessee
#6 Louisville
#7 Nevada
#8 BYU
#9 Xavier
#10 Creighton
#11 Stanford
#12 Long Beach State
#13 Albany
#14 Penn
#15 North Texas
#16 Central Connecticut State

San Jose
#1 Kansas
#2 UCLA
#3 Pittsburgh
#4 Southern Illinois
#5 Virginia Tech
#6 Duke
#7 Indiana
#8 Kentucky
#9 Villanova
#10 Gonzaga
#11 VCU
#12 Illinois
#13 Holy Cross
#14 Wright State
#15 Weber State
#16 Play-In Game - Florida A&M/Niagra

Good things happen when your AD is on the selection committee, apparently. I have to admit, we really don't deserve a 4.

Carolina with the number 2 overall seed. Even I'm a bit skeptical of that.

Doesn't the top ranked #1 team play the winner of the play-in? So wouldn't that mean Kansas is the top ranked #1 team?

Doesn't the top ranked #1 team play the winner of the play-in? So wouldn't that mean Kansas is the top ranked #1 team?

No, they just make it random.

Ok ...

They only do that for the first 2 rounds. You'll notice that the opening round venues aren't tied to region anymore (i.e., some west region games are in Columbus).

You could have fooled me, just look at the two seeds: UCLA (West), Georgetown (East), Memphis (South), and Wisconsin (Midwest).

Florida plays Friday...play in team plays on a thursday.....

St Louis is just as close to Florida as San Antonio. Makes no real difference.

Also, the Midwest was already the number 1 overall's spot, and Florida was the number 1 overall seed, so they're in the Midwest.

OSU and BYU are playing at the same place. I need tickets!! where can I find some?

I'm going to the Sunday Chicago games. Looks like Wisconsin vs. UNLV/Ga. Tech and Kansas vs. Villanova/Kentucky.

Arizona gets the thrill of Purdue and maybe Florida. Hopefully our SOS helps prepare us. :lol: