10th November draws ever closer, so its time to plan our glorius conquests! What faction are you playing as and where are you going to invade?


England
Holy Roman Empire
France
Rebulic of Venice
Spain


These are the playable factions from the start. The other 12 must be unlocked.


Egypt
Byzantine
Moors
Scotland
Denmark
Portugal
Poland
Milan
Sicily
Russia
Hungary
Turks


^^^Unlockables.

The unplayables are


Aztecs
Timurids
Mongols
Papal States
Rebels


Give your faction, your target and why. ;)

I'll probably start as Venice because I've enjoyed a number of games as them on Europa Universalis. Milan will probably be the target so that I can unite Italy. I will probably unlock all the nations by editing the relevant file if it is the same as RTW as I don't appreciate having to defeat particular nations to be able to play as them.

The Holy Roman Empire. Expand first East, then wheel around and capture Southern Europe, and proceed on to Western Europe.

The unplayables are

* Aztecs
* Timurids
* Mongols
* Papal States
* Rebels

Hah! In RTW Barb Invasion you can play as Romano-British, ER Rebels and WR Rebels if you have downloaded some unlock thingie. There is always someone who makes those.

Portugal he he, kicking some serious morish and spanish ass will be excellent ;)

HRE, and then later, Portugal

England. Target: Scotland :D

Scotland target England...or rather bypass the castles and hit london (which will be a city correct?). then mop up. thats the plan anyway.

I made my own thread and didn't answer the question. :o

I'm going to be England and try to invade Spain. Thats what they get for a dirty great armada coming at us! :smug:

aztecs oh noes hide the nukes! but any way aztecs thats awsome colonization time.

I forgot that the Aztecs were in this. This should make it interesting, a massive Papal Army versus the Aztecs, whoda thunk it possible?

Spain, then HRE, then France.

I forgot that the Aztecs were in this. This should make it interesting, a massive Papal Army versus the Aztecs, whoda thunk it possible?

The Pope doesn't really do anything. He just sends you to do his dirty work. :p

Warrior Popes!

As soon as it's unlocked, I'm playing Scotland and I'm conquering Western Europe. Before Steviejay :smug:

The Pope doesn't really do anything. He just sends you to do his dirty work. :p
I don't know, when I used to play MTW the Papacy actually built up a pretty sizeable empire. That is until the Imperial Army of Byzantium conquered them in the name of their God, Tank Guy#3.

I don't know, when I used to play MTW the Papacy actually built up a pretty sizeable empire. That is until the Imperial Army of Byzantium conquered them in the name of their God, Tank Guy#3.

Same God?

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I don't know, when I used to play MTW the Papacy actually built up a pretty sizeable empire. That is until the Imperial Army of Byzantium conquered them in the name of their God, Tank Guy#3.

Cool. So the Pope will actually take settlements and build empires? Good, I thought he was like SPQR in Rome: Just stayed there and did nothing.

I will play Spain and realize the Reconquista. Then play Turks and expand south:egypt: :spank: :evil:

Burgundy and Aragon. :)

They aren't factions...

They should be. :)

Well they aren't. Get over it!!! :D

:joke:

Hungary is though.

Unless Aragon is Spain...

P.S who is that in your avatar? Not half bad... :groucho: :thumbsup:

Brave through as HRE, then change when I can to my favorite faction...

B Y Z A N T I U M

B Y Z A N T I U M

Hope they have more anti-cavalry units now. Spearmen were no match for the Sipahis. Varangian Guard Rules.:king:

Varangian Guard Rules.:king:

Two handed battle axes which could carve up even horses ?
These were probably the best infantry at the time

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I'll be probably playing Turkomen for all the gunpower units.
Hmmmm giant cannons on infantry action :D

First England, then Byzantines

Sicily and invade the Byzantines or the Turks and invade the Byzantines

I'd play as Byzantines just to loose and get assaulted in Constantinople...

Of course, it is as impenetrable as real life, no?

I'll be probably playing Turkomen for all the gunpower units.
Hmmmm giant cannons on infantry action :D

The first time I saw a Medieval 2: Total War trailer, there was a giant cannon blowing up a unit(!) of royal knights. It really made me :drool:

Playing as England, and I'm at war with Denmark. They declared war on me, and they are now feeling English wrath! :evil: (With a few trebuchets!)

If I find some way or another I will try to edit the game so I could play as the Aztecs or the Scotish

Holy Roman Empire

First stop is Denmark, Belgium, and Holland. Surely with those three under my belt I can romp through France. :)

I'd play as Byzantines just to loose and get assaulted in Constantinople...

Of course, it is as impenetrable as real life, no?

It was the most formidable fortress at the time. with triple walls all around some 20km in a single half circle so something like 60+km of defences. It was eventually plunded by the crusaders and taken by turks.

turks did finally manage to take it after the city had been deverstaed by the plague and Byzatines fleet (which she reamined a major navel power for a long time) was in financial ruin. And still the Turks had to fight a tough battle.

HRE.

First, expands northeast. Prussia and Livonia are Germans (that means that the whole intermediate provinces are germans too). Once time I had these two, let europe to europeans, so, russians MUST be expulsed from map, to only live in middle asian stepes (with mongols, after all, they are mongols:crazyeye: ). With Central and Northeastern Europe in Teutonic Hands (this means I concentred i "east crusades" and let Jerusalem to other christians) I go for Poland and far north. Denmark and Poland are not a problem anymore and now I take control of north sea. Rout hungarians provinces going south, to place a feet near Constantinople, maybe stoping by a minute in Khazar.
By this time I had a concrete map area, very dificult to invade succesfully. Now, intrigate to get frenchs or italians excommunicated, and launch my teutonic knights through those heretics ex-good christians. If attack Italy, prevent do not touching Pope... Crusades are always a nice weapon.

Take the other one and relegate Spain to Peninsula (if they were conquered by arabs, send them back to Africa), and England to island territories. Control continental Europe, and stablish sea routes.
In this moment, Turks must be fighting with byzantines, so attack them two and take Crimea (if it was Byzantine), Byzantium, Greece, Nicaea and parts of minor Asia.

Now it is time to let peace to the Empire. But peace is only the preparation time for next war... Massively attack and launch crusades to Holy Land...

That is the master plan for Old World domination..:king:
After that, going into retirement and live from your empires interests...:goodjob: (wich means, inertia makes your empires grow and take Africa and the latest provinces...

If I find some way or another I will try to edit the game so I could play as the Aztecs or the Scotish

go to Medieval II Total War\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign\des cr_strat.txt and just copy/paste the countries you want from unlockable/unplayable to playable and you're done. Dead easy.

First thing I did was unlock Scotland

I tried that and it doesn't work. It's a read only file, so it's uneditable.

Right click, deselect Read only....

Can't be bothered. :p

*gape*

Lazy....

:lol:

I tried to make it editable, but I'd rather play properly and unlock them properly. There is no reward if the factions are just there.

It's not much of a task. Only took me the better part of the day to wipe out France and Scotland, and to be fair the delay was mostly due to me feeling a bit guilty about breaking an alliance.

If the task for unlocking a faction was purely conquering it - and nothing about winning a game - then that might be considered a better challenge-reward system. As it stands, it's just pointless.

Still rather unlock them.

I tried to make it editable, but I'd rather play properly and unlock them properly. There is no reward if the factions are just there.

Just wondering, does the short campaign unlock them all as well?

I basically unlocked scotland by itself then completed the Full Campaign, in a day. The lands ran red. Still that unlocked everyone else, and I thought it fitting.

Just wondering, does the short campaign unlock them all as well?

Yup :smug:

Yup

BAH! You must play with true Scottish fervour...CRUSH EVERYONE!

Have you done it yet? :p

*sigh* well, Almost. There was 2 Catholic factions left, the Islamic factions were reduced to the Moors...who had 2 provinces in Africa. And then there was the Timurids and the Mongols. (who had the eastern map pretty much to themselves).

It got to the point that I would get excommunicated, and it didn't mean anything other than "oh more directions to expand in".

Oddly I've been friendly with the Pope for all of my game so far. Hasn't stopped four Catholic nations being in a constant state of war with me although it is now three nations as Sicily were wiped out. Am basically waiting for Milan to excommunicated again.

In this version of MTW what happens if you wipe out the pope? In the old game a new Pope would always reappear roughly every 5 years or something like that.

From what I gathered, he would ask catholic factions for a region. Then love them to bits if they did....

Maybe they horde? (would that make sense?)...Bah, I'll find out, I wonder if the auto-cal cheat still works....and what it is.

I might try and grab Rome then at some point and unite Italy.

You have to, to win the HRE Long Campaign. So I assume its nothing TOO big.

On another note, in my recent game the Papal states started to expand, they took Florence from Milan (who had been excommunicated), I'm going to attempt the same thing with Sicily (get them excom'd), Build the Papal states up a bit :p

Another question on a similar topic, how do you check whether a faction has been excommunicated?

@ Dell

Click on the shield (faction summary window), click on The Papacy tab, then hover your mouse over the number of crosses and an appropriate comment will appear, one of which is 'His Holiness has denounced this faction and it has been excommunicated from the catholic faith' or somesuch.

Thanks. I think I went to that screen but didn't do the final step of hovering the mouse.

I'm playing as the Holy Roman Empire. If I am able to, I plan on pimp-smacking the Pope and the Papal States.

Ha. Good luck. You'll need it, believe me. ;)

Kan I demand a story in all other games!

Kan I demand a story in all other games!

For Medieval 2? There will probably be one at some point, but not just yet :)

bleh, I've always wanted to try an AAR, still not sure which nation to do :p

Has anyone tried the Holy Roman Empire? Is it tough or do I just such at playing nations that are completely surrounded?

Has anyone tried the Holy Roman Empire? Is it tough or do I just such at playing nations that are completely surrounded?

Yes, on H/VH difficulty if I remember correctly. Don't expect favors from the Pope, at least until a new one is elected. (You may want to try speed up this process. ;))

Forging alliances is good, and the diplomacy is improved, as they won't backstab you all the time much like in R:TW. However, what you WILL see is enemies making alliances with fellow enemies and striking you together. Good tactics indeed by the AI.

Expect a bloody war with Milan. These are powerful, and will backstab you at the first oppurtunity. My tactic is to turn Bologna into a castle, as it will grow quickly, therefore giving you good units such as Zwei-Handers quickly. Keep Bologna well defended, and expect a possible war with Venice.

France is a good ally, as they may help you with Milan if they wish to conquer Italy, and they won't backstab you. (They didn't me.) Milan are tough, and will attack you regularly with full stacks. This war will be costly.

I had to give up as the HRE, as I got over-run by Milan and Venice, and I was heading toward having no money at all. Expect a tough time with the Holy Roman Empire.

Good luck. ;)

As HRE...

I....hate....Milan....

conquering them was slower....than....death....

Has anyone tried the Holy Roman Empire? Is it tough or do I just such at playing nations that are completely surrounded?

what about the ottoman empire?

I was playing and would like to know how other people did with them. I love their missile cavalry. They are so great on the open field.

God Damnit, after I come out with an unbelievable victory my computer always locks up on the animations of the characters walking into my new city!! :mad: