I think it would be interesting to have some element of sports in Civ. They are a huge part of people's lives and have been since the ancient Olympics. Does anyone think it could or should be in a future Civ game and have any ideas on how it might work? :undecide:

I know you have coliseums but it could be a completely different building and have the same bonus, like a huge wishing well or something... They aren't in the game so that sports are involved, they are in the game so that the building is involved.

I am a newbie and have only played Civ 4. If sports have been included in past Civ games I apologise.

This brings me nicely on to my next niggle. (nothing to do with the poll)

Why can you still build coliseums in the 21st century if you neglect building them at the start?

Why are there still archers defending your cities when stealth bombers are roaming the skies if you can't be bothered to upgrade them?

I think if you don't build a building a certain number of turns after it becomes available it is locked out. You can't build it any more.

Also I think upgrading your early units should cost less gold as time goes by. It gets really annoying when archers cost 300 gold each to upgrade to riflemen when it only takes 3 turns to recruit a new one.

Again, please post any ideas on this topic you might have.

i like the idea but i no idea how i=to imploment it

i like the idea but i no idea how i=to imploment it
In the ancient times you've got the colosseum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloseum), in the medieval times you could see it turn into a tournament (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tournament_%28medieval%29) during the middel ages, an later on see it become (european) football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer).

Why can you still build coliseums in the 21st century if you neglect building them at the start?

Because those buildings aren't adaptive, and don't have any more recent counterpart in civ4.

I think if you don't build a building a certain number of turns after it becomes available it is locked out. You can't build it any more.
Depending on it's time, you should be able to build the adjusted building.
Kinda weird building a colosseum that late in the game indeed.

I suppose you could add it for flavor, and possibly allow small gains in productivity for cities with winning teams.

Sport doesn't have a large enough impact on global affairs for it to be included in the game - the only time when sport gets political is because it's being influenced by global affairs, not the other way round. I guess it could be included for some extra flavour, but I don't think it would be a worthy addition.

Sport doesn't have a large enough impact on global affairs for it to be included in the game - the only time when sport gets political is because it's being influenced by global affairs, not the other way round. I guess it could be included for some extra flavour, but I don't think it would be a worthy addition.__________________

I agree with this comment. I suggest that perhaps a cultural discovery might be the Olympics, similar to discoveries like Broadway, Hollywood, and Rock and Roll. I would premise that one would have to have constructed a Collseum in the town where the Olympics is discovered.

Originally Posted by caramac
Why can you still build coliseums in the 21st century if you neglect building them at the start?


Because those buildings aren't adaptive, and don't have any more recent counterpart in civ4.


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Originally Posted by caramac
I think if you don't build a building a certain number of turns after it becomes available it is locked out. You can't build it any more.

Depending on it's time, you should be able to build the adjusted building.
Kinda weird building a colosseum that late in the game indeed.
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There are recent recent counterparts to Roman Coliseums. They are today's sports stadiums and arenas. In fact (probably the closest to the gladitorial events of Rome) are American football games and not surprisingly enough, many of those games are played in stadiums called Coliseums.

Origionally Posted by ProfessorK
There are recent recent counterparts to Roman Coliseums. They are today's sports stadiums and arenas. In fact (probably the closest to the gladitorial events of Rome) are American football games and not surprisingly enough, many of those games are played in stadiums called Coliseums.

So after a certain date/no. of turns do you think the coliseum should have the same benefits but just be called a 'stadium'? But I suppose that you would have to update some other buildings too, like 'aqueduct' to 'plumbing'.

Do you think this would improve the game or just be confusing?:confused:

I think I'd just call in the Coliseium because it would open a can of worms, like you said, about renaming other buildings. I thinkthat spectator sports probably have always served about the same functions in a civilization. They bring happiness and unity to an area and in the case of professional sports, money. I'm sure there were a lot of businesses around the Roman colisiem just as there are around today's stadiums and star atheletes and owners and all the rest.

Hollywood, Broadway, Rock 'n Roll, Football (Sport) ... it would be a minor addition.

I have just yesterday read a short reprinted article on the ancient Greek Olympics (History Today, October 2000). The original Olympics purpose was really religious rather than entertainment, although it certainly provided that as well. So if it is included as a wonder, it should be an early one because the Olympics dates back to the 8th Century BC, but were not definitively organized until after the Persian Wars in the 5th century BC) and somehow tied to religion, maybe becoming available with polytheism since the Greeks were polytheiastic. Interestingly, the article said that our contemporary word "stadium" comes from the Olympic event the "stadion" or a 200 meter dash. Our word "athlete" comes from the Greek "athlon," or "prize". So I guess that makes our phrase "prize athlete" a redundancy.

i think it would improve the game