what uus whould you want in

eg
english (redcoat)
welsh longbow

None. The game covers too large a range of technologies and has too many civilisations too consider putting in more than one uu per civ. Doing so would make warfare very complex. As it is I already have trouble keeping track of the military strengths and weaknesses of my opponenets.

We need unique aircraft and ships. Like the Japanese could have the Zero Fighter, which is a better version of the Fighter. Or instead of a Samurai, we could have a Ninja who acts like a spy, except cooler.

Hmm, every side should get a unique plane, ship and land unit. Some Civs never had ships or any good ships and some never had planes, so we could make them up. The Zulu could get a Heavy Bomber plane which can be made up. Hmm, perhaps someone could make a mod like that.

None. The game covers too large a range of technologies and has too many civilisations too consider putting in more than one uu per civ. Doing so would make warfare very complex. As it is I already have trouble keeping track of the military strengths and weaknesses of my opponenets.
i dont see the problem with having more than 1 uu(how about 6)

no the idea behind this tread is replacing the uulike my idea welsh longbow instead of redcoat

i know this will not be implimented

i just want to know what think

We need unique aircraft and ships. Like the Japanese could have the Zero Fighter, which is a better version of the Fighter. Or instead of a Samurai, we could have a Ninja who acts like a spy, except cooler.

Hmm, every side should get a unique plane, ship and land unit. Some Civs never had ships or any good ships and some never had planes, so we could make them up. The Zulu could get a Heavy Bomber plane which can be made up. Hmm, perhaps someone could make a mod like that.

The way Naval and Air combat works in Civ, I really dont think that either a Naval and in particular, an Air UU would be a very good idea. Personally, I think the effects would be minimal.

and ther are so few air and naval units that ther would be ten UU fighters

India or Carthage could have a unique war elephant

What I mean is that EVERY Civ has their own unique ship, plane and land unit. Even if naval combat is bad ,at least every side would have their own unique naval unit. Can't someone make a mod like that? Unique units for all terrains, ground, sea and air for all Civs?

Implementing more UU`s for every civ will perhaps be a little too much, but I`d like to see that certain civics enabled the production of special civic related units. In this way there would be some more semi UU`s which could add some flavour. Examples:
Theocracy: Crusader or Fanatic
Police State: Shock Troops
Hereditary rule: Royal Guard
Vassalage: Feudal knights
Nationhood: Minute men, National Guard (special drafted units)
State property: Secret police (counter intelligence)

Implementing more UU`s for every civ will perhaps be a little too much, but I`d like to see that certain civics enabled the production of special civic related units. In this way there would be some more semi UU`s which could add some flavour. Examples:
Theocracy: Crusader or Fanatic
Police State: Shock Troops
Hereditary rule: Royal Guard
Vassalage: Feudal knights
Nationhood: Minute men, National Guard (special drafted units)
State property: Secret police (counter intelligence)
you mean uu for the civics

Yup, if there were civic related units, one could get more flavour and diversity between the players without having to implement a new UU for every civ. I believe that is a much more realistic expansion to hope for and it gives us more units to choose from and makes every civ a little more uniqe.

Yup, if there were civic related units, one could get more flavour and diversity between the players without having to implement a new UU for every civ. I believe that is a much more realistic expansion to hope for and it gives us more units to choose from and makes every civ a little more uniqe.
who will win crusader or a tank

I`m not sure I get your question or if it even is one, but if you mean that civic UU`s gets obsolete, I think that would make sense. Almost every Monarchy has a royal guard today, but they are now mostly a combined tourist attractions and life guard, not a functional fighting force. The civic UU should reflect the era when the civic is most used.

Yup, if there were civic related units, one could get more flavour and diversity between the players without having to implement a new UU for every civ. I believe that is a much more realistic expansion to hope for and it gives us more units to choose from and makes every civ a little more uniqe.

This doesn't quite work. Most civics (excluding the top line) can be useful even in the late game. By assigning to a civic a specific unit it means that that civic won't be available in the eras when the unit is too powerful and will lose a lot of its value in the later eras. Edit: Just realised that Kristopherb hit on the same problem with allowing uique units with certain civics.

A better way would be too let a civic grant a promotion to certain units. This has, in a way, already been implemented by developers - vassalage and theocracy grant free experience points to all newly built units.

what uus whould you want in

eg
english (redcoat)
welsh longbow

I realise English must be your second language. I assume when you say 'alturnate' you mean alternative.

So:

I'm curious. Are you suggesting Welsh Longbow be an alternative UU for the English?

I`m not sure I get your question or if it even is one, but if you mean that civic UU`s gets obsolete, I think that would make sense. Almost every Monarchy has a royal guard today, but they are now mostly a combined tourist attractions and life guard, not a functional fighting force. The civic UU should reflect the era when the civic is most used.
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vassal
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stateprotiy
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I realise English must be your second language. I assume when you say 'alturnate' you mean alternative.

So:

I'm curious. Are you suggesting Welsh Longbow be an alternative UU for the English?
im 100% english and not very good at spelling^^^^
yes and no because im just seeing what if community whouo;d what to change the uus

A spanish galleon would be nice, maybe a german u-boat

im 100% english and not very good at spelling^^^^
yes and no because im just seeing what if community whouo;d what to change the uus

But having a Welsh longbowman for the English would be no different than, say, having a Scottish highlander-unit. For the English.

Not that the Redcoats were British and not English. :)

The civic special units would sure make building the pyramids nicer.. just imagine, you start a game as ind, see STONE!! beeline to pyramids, slave out 1 shock troop, and concquer the closest civ with that unit (while building a 2nd unit to take out the world with a double damage tag team) :D

The game would change completely into a rushing for the pyramids, or to take out the guy with pyramids before he pushes out his 1st shock trooper.. :goodjob:

Amazing! :lol:

I do understand that my suggestion is not flawless, but since the dawn of UU we have requested more of them. We`ve had this debate quite a few times earlier, but fireaxis have so far not been willing to fulfill our wishes. More units that are limted by special conditions, such as civs, civics, wonders etc make each game uniqe and different from the last game and gives us more options to form and try a strategy. I don`t believe we will see a second UU for every civ in the epic game, but perhaps there are other ways to gain more units that are somewhat restricted and special??

but since the dawn of UU we have requested more of them.

No, we haven't. A large proportion of people are content with the number of unique units currently available and a significant proportion would like to have the option (in the custom game menu) to switch off unique units (and buildings).

No, we haven't. A large proportion of people are content with the number of unique units currently available and a significant proportion would like to have the option (in the custom game menu) to switch off unique units (and buildings).

I agree, there should be more options in the custom game menu.

Now over to the original thread topic. How about giving each leader its personal UU. Or all my suggestions may also be a second or third UU for the civ.

Churcill: Spitfire or commando
Victoria: redcoat
Elisabeth: Man O War
Washington: Minuteman
Abe: Buffalo soldier or Monitor
Roosevelt: GI Joe
Napoleon:Grand Battery
Leiv Ericsson??: Longboat
Stalin: T - 34
Mao: Partisan
Asoka: War Elephant

How about giving each leader its personal UU.


This is a brilliant idea! And this is how it should be.

This is a brilliant idea! And this is how it should be.
my personal fav was one for civ and one for the leader

UU per leader? What would be Gandhi's?

Peacemaker?

Not that the Redcoats were British and not English. :)

That's true, and Victoria was a Queen of Britain, not just England. But the name of the civ is England. The redcoats belonged to England and Scotland and Wales, but the Welsh longbows, I would assume, belonged to Wales only.

Yes but Welsh bowmen where used by English Kings in their armies, so in a sense they where English units.

UU per leader? What would be Gandhi's?

Peacemaker?

Ganshi`s UU would be the fast worker as it is today, while the other indian leader should get a War Elephant...